On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 06:33:47AM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
Hello Samuel,
Am Mi den 21. Sep 2005 um 3:12 schrieb Samuel Jean:
Here it goes. I wondered about a clever way to load my iptables ruleset via
init.d's script. Surprisingly, I didn't find any with Debian. I didn't
search
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 10:41:10AM +0200, Marc Chantreux wrote:
zsh provides some things i've never seen in bash, for example :
- file globbing flags, so you can set case insensitivity,
That's a thing bash has: shopt -s nocaseglob. For the rest...
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On Sep 21, Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The absolute minimum functional upgrade path is to Conflict: with all
package versions providing old-style blacklists, and to abort early in
preinst with a loud warning if any user-specified blacklists are present on
the system (much
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#include hallo.h
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [Thu, Aug 25 2005, 12:17:56PM]:
Well, as long as you don't start using stuff that breaks often, or that
loads a ton of crap dynamically, or (even worse) is in /usr instead of /bin
or /sbin...
Note that using dash is probably MUCH faster than
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find constructs like ${string#*=} particularly difficult to read,
since they require that I remember what all the different punctuation
characters inside this sort of parameter expansion do. According to
the bash manual, there are sixteen of them, and
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 05:07:31AM -0400, Alfie Costa wrote:
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find constructs like ${string#*=} particularly difficult to read,
since they require that I remember what all the different punctuation
characters inside this sort of parameter expansion do.
Christian Perrier a écrit :
Package: localechooser
Severity: wishlist
Currently, localechooser install specific packages for given languages by
using code inside the main script.
i think localchooser is not the only package which needs to install
other packages during postinst.
is there a
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 02:06:24PM +0200, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote:
It's not so unusual anymore since intel introduced the IXP series
of chips which come with mostly BE oriented reference designs.
The nslu2 itself comes with an ixp4xx CPU, but the armeb port is also
used on a number of
Kevin B. McCarty writes:
Gfortran claims not to be completely ready for use as a g77 replacement
yet (and someone who has attempted to compile Cernlib with it reports a
large number of problems yet). But eventually that day will come... we
should have some transition plan in mind by then.
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:04:29PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote:
Am Mi den 21. Sep 2005 um 3:12 schrieb Samuel Jean:
Here it goes. I wondered about a clever way to load my iptables ruleset
via
init.d's script. Surprisingly, I didn't find any with Debian. I didn't
search
that
@ 21/09/2005 02:25 : wrote Matthew Palmer : On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at
01:12:38AM -, Samuel Jean wrote:
Here it goes. I wondered about a clever way to load my iptables
ruleset via init.d's script. Surprisingly, I didn't find any with
Debian. I didn't search that much though.
Have a look at
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On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:41:13PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
Now, looking more into details, the criteria are:
| * Availability:
| The architecture needs to be available for everybody, i.e.
The reason for this should be obvious
The requirement of available as new has been dropped?
[Ingo Juergensmann]
Although it was discussed several times, I have still no idea how those
users should be counted?
Two ideas.
- Get them to install popularity-contest. This will make their
machine show up on popcon.debian.org, and we would assume there are
users of the given
Le mardi 20 septembre 2005 à 23:41 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit :
For that reason, we discussed in multiple meetings, together with porters,
ftp-masters and other people more than once how the criteria should
look. Also, there was more than one discussion on debian-devel. [1, 2]
This has been
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 03:19:16PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Ingo Juergensmann]
Although it was discussed several times, I have still no idea how those
users should be counted?
Two ideas.
- Get them to install popularity-contest. This will make their
machine show up on
[Josselin Mouette]
This has been indeed discussed to death. The result of the
discussion seems to be that a large majority of the developers
doesn't agree with all your criteria.
I guess that depends on the viewpoint of the reader what the results
were. It is hard to tell if there is a vocal
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 14:54]:
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 11:41:13PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
| * Developer availability: The architecture must have a
|developer-available (i.e. debian.org) machine that contains the
|usual development chroots (at least
* Josselin Mouette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 15:25]:
Le mardi 20 septembre 2005 à 23:41 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit :
For that reason, we discussed in multiple meetings, together with porters,
ftp-masters and other people more than once how the criteria should
look. Also, there was more
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 15:28]:
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 03:19:16PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Ingo Juergensmann]
Although it was discussed several times, I have still no idea how those
users should be counted?
Two ideas.
- Get them to install
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Hi folks,
I've come across a strange behavior printing a certain postscript file
with the CUPS server in Sarge. (See bug # 329207 for further details.)
I would like to request someone who is still running oldstable - Woody
- - to see whether or not
On 21.09.05, Faré wrote:
On 9/21/05, René van Bevern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 21.09.05, Faré wrote:
Hi Faré,
The only possible downside is having to walk /etc/passwd to locate
all the places where to purge the cache, if you wish to do such
thing.
No, it is the plain and
Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I guess that depends on the viewpoint of the reader what the results
were. It is hard to tell if there is a vocal minority making a lot of
noise, or if there is a majority disagreeing with the criteria.
It's actually pretty easy. Count the number
[Kalle Kivimaa]
It's actually pretty easy. Count the number of posters that seem to
disagree. If this number is over half of the current developer
count, then yes, a majority of the developers are in
opposition. What you _cannot_ do is say because over 50% of the
people participating in the
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 03:46:14PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
Well, I'm already running popcon on my two m68ks, but that doesn't say much
about how many users are using that machines, as you state yourself. ;)
Well, it's up to the porters to count the users, but of course, if you
state
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:22:27PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
That's not only must have 50 users but more a must have 50 users that do
stuff on those machines.
See, that's the problem, when you don't define those rules exactly: what
qualifies for a user - how often needs the user on the
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 03:37:25PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
| * Developer availability: The architecture must have a
|developer-available (i.e. debian.org) machine that contains the
|usual development chroots (at least stable, testing, unstable).
This criterion is there so
[Ingo Juergensmann]
As I tried to say: there need more exact quidelines for
this. Currently they are very vague in my eyes.
You failed to say why the guidelines need to be more exact. In my
view, the guidelines are good enough. This is probably colored by the
fact that I trust the good
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:28:07PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:22:27PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
That's not only must have 50 users but more a must have 50 users that do
stuff on those machines.
See, that's the problem, when you don't define those
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 16:53]:
What about such ports like m32r? Some embedded devices might run that port,
but the user doesn't even know about which arch he's using nor that he's
using Debian and certainly not that he is intended to give a hey, i'm using
that port
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Ingo Juergensmann]
As I tried to say: there need more exact quidelines for
this. Currently they are very vague in my eyes.
You failed to say why the guidelines need to be more exact. In my
view, the guidelines are good enough. This is probably colored by the
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, René van Bevern wrote:
Not by packages or their scripts and not without user
interaction. It's dangerous.
Often it IS done without interaction, with the expected screwups and massive
loss of data. Openoffice deleted a ton of user files with their
super-braindead upgrade
Quoting Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050921 16:53]:
What about such ports like m32r? Some embedded devices might run that port,
but the user doesn't even know about which arch he's using nor that he's
using Debian and certainly not that he is
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 17:05 +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
I'm starting to suspect you do not trust the release team nor the
porters to make good judgement [...]
^^^
Nono... of course not!
It's just my personal experience that this
Ingo Juergensmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The proposal make some very exact guidelines like the 98% rule whereas
it is very unprecise in other regards. I find this quite irrating and
thus asking for clarification.
Actually, the 98% rule is not in the proposal. It was given as a
possible rule
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thomas Bushnell wrote:
This is not the correct way to orphan a package.
True. However, it is entirely legitimate for a maintainer to decide that a
package is worthless and withdraw it, which is what Andres Salomon is
planning to do. In fact,
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Helllo,
I have been using debian for quite some time now, how ever I have
watched several distrobutions implentating so many great ideas, and I
have been wondering why such a robust distorbution as debian
GNU/Linux(*) hasn't done this. One of them is:
SELinux
If SELinux is also suitable for
Package: wnpp
I'd like to give up maintainership of psutils.
As it stands now, there hasn't been any upstream work on it in a long
time, and my impression from the last time I spoke with the author was
that he wasn't sure when he might be able to work on it heavily again.
It also looks like
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:34:49AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
I don't remember any such rationale ever being given; IIRC, ljlane changed
it in response to pressure from users, who may have objected for any number
of reasons. The presence of an optional startup script for iptables doesn't
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Arvind Autar wrote:
is no loss of functionality, why hasn't debian implented SELinux as
default?
It is not that simple. We are doing it slowly.
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Arvind Autar wrote:
Helllo,
I have been using debian for quite some time now, how ever I have
watched several distrobutions implentating so many great ideas, and I
have been wondering why such a robust distorbution as debian
GNU/Linux(*) hasn't done this. One of them is:
SELinux
If SELinux is
Scripsit Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have also wondered a bit about the current status of the domain. Is
psutils still needed, or are there better, more actively pursued
alternatives now? For example, can similar functionality be provided
by convenience wrappers around ghostscript, as
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 10:07:12PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
(For example, some postscript files explode in size when they are
passed through ghostscripts pswrite backend - which is more or less by
design. Others become smaller, but in any case this ought to be kept
orthogonal from simple
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I feel that your site would be a nice fit in my collection of
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I've already placed a link to your
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 10:07:12PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
(For example, some postscript files explode in size when they are
passed through ghostscripts pswrite backend - which is more or less by
design. Others become smaller, but in any
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 16:49 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Arvind Autar wrote:
is no loss of functionality, why hasn't debian implented SELinux as
default?
It is not that simple. We are doing it slowly.
To flesh that out some:
Fine-grain security
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
For systems on insecure or restricted/classified networks, it's
wonderful. For 98% of us, it's too much complexity for not enough
benefit over:
carefully chosen apps
turned-off unused daemons
a good h/w firewall
strong
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On Wednesday 21 September 2005 15:49, René van Bevern wrote:
A lot of packages install stuff in the user directory.
I doubt that any package does this.
1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ :( $ grep '^/home/' /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ :( $
None on my system.
Not by packages or
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