Re: Move to python 2.4 / Changing the packaging style for python packages

2006-06-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 08:17:17AM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 01:49:26AM +0200, Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > - The current pythonX.Y-foo packages having modules in the python > >library path are collapsed into one package python-

Re: Move to python 2.4 / Changing the packaging style for python packages

2006-06-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 01:49:26AM +0200, Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - The current pythonX.Y-foo packages having modules in the python >library path are collapsed into one package python-foo. Binary >independent modules are made available for the python versions >curr

Bug#373150: ITP: ccd2iso -- Converter from CloneCD disc image format to standard ISO

2006-06-12 Thread Asheesh Laroia
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ccd2iso Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Danny Kurniawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/ccd2iso/ * License : GPL Description : Converte

Re: Move to python 2.4 / Changing the packaging style for python packages

2006-06-12 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 09:59:58PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > AFAIR, a package > > should not have to depend on python2.3 and python2.4; instead, applications > > that need a specific version of the interpreter should depend on it > > themselv

Re: Move to python 2.4 / Changing the packaging style for python packages

2006-06-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 09:59:58PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > AFAIR, a package > > should not have to depend on python2.3 and python2.4; instead, applications > > that need a specific version of the interpreter should depend on it > > themsel

Re: Move to python 2.4 / Changing the packaging style for python packages

2006-06-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > AFAIR, a package > should not have to depend on python2.3 and python2.4; instead, applications > that need a specific version of the interpreter should depend on it > themselves. I hope that it will be possible for such apps to do it without specifying

Re: A clean way to introduce delay between scripts in /etc/init.d?

2006-06-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
"LEE, Yui-wah (Clement)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What is a clean way to introduce a delay between the > scripts in /etc/init.d ? Don't. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Move to python 2.4 / Changing the packaging style for python packages

2006-06-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 07:39:29AM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > >Binary dependent > >extensions are put for all supported python versions into the > >same python-foo package. > So these packages are going to depend on all supported python versions, > making impossible to remo

Re: Move to python 2.4 / Changing the packaging style for python packages

2006-06-12 Thread Ben Burton
Hi, > > 1. It won't build under python2.4. I have fixes for this that I haven't > >uploaded (and that need some more testing and tidying up). > > You may still ask for help. This will be easy enough to have ready by the time 2.3 is removed, which I'm assuming is not happening tomorrow. Wh

Re: Move to python 2.4 / Changing the packaging style for python packages

2006-06-12 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
>Binary dependent >extensions are put for all supported python versions into the >same python-foo package. So these packages are going to depend on all supported python versions, making impossible to remove old python versions from user's systems? pgp8TX0wkQDNo.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Move to python 2.4 / Changing the packaging style for python packages

2006-06-12 Thread Duck
Coin, Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For reference, decompyle still needs python2.3. There are two issues: > > 1. It won't build under python2.4. I have fixes for this that I haven't >uploaded (and that need some more testing and tidying up). You may still ask for help. > 2. It

Re: Move to python 2.4 / Changing the packaging style for python packages

2006-06-12 Thread Ben Burton
Hi, > With the upcoming releases of the last packages which > didn't support 2.4 yet (Plone on the Zope application server) we may > be able to drop support for 2.3 in sid and etch as well. For reference, decompyle still needs python2.3. There are two issues: 1. It won't build under python2.4.

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-12 Thread Duck
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Probably because a change in debhelper is done with a change of > compatibility level. And you still can use the old behaviour by using > the appropriate level. I was talking about mistakes, and package care, and package reviewed by several persons of a t

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-12 Thread Duck
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Probably because a change in debhelper is done with a change of > compatibility level. And you still can use the old behaviour by using > the appropriate level. I was talking about mistakes, and package care, and package reviewed by several persons of a t

Re: A clean way to introduce delay between scripts in /etc/init.d?

2006-06-12 Thread Stephen Samuel
One thing you can do is check every few seconds to see if the script has completed. You could, for example, have bind9 remove a blocking file when it is starting, and recreate it when it is done (or vice versa). Have your later script check for the existence of the file when it starts. It's a

Re: Non-DD's in debian-legal

2006-06-12 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 10:52:45AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > However, I *do* believe that d-l is a cesspit, and I for one am very > > glad that in its current incarnation, it is not at all binding and has > > no value other than being a deba

Re: Non-DD's in debian-legal

2006-06-12 Thread Raul Miller
On 6/12/06, Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The d-l list has a problem which is shared by many Debian mailing lists (including debian-vote and debian-devel, and I'm sure it's not limited to them) which is that far too many people subscribe to the "last post wins" school of debate. People

Re: Renaming a package

2006-06-12 Thread Heikki Henriksen
man, 29,.05.2006 kl. 22.00 +0200, skrev Frank Küster: > martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds like a clean approach, but is there a clean transition? > > I doubt you can upload a source package that generates the same > > binary package as another source package. > Oh, you can. Unt

Re: A clean way to introduce delay between scripts in /etc/init.d?

2006-06-12 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 12. Juni 2006 22:17 schrieb Joey Hess: > LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote: > > What is a clean way to introduce a delay between the > > scripts in /etc/init.d ? > > > > I saw a problem that /etc/rc2.d/S27bind9 started before > > /etc/rc2.d/S25ifplugd actually completed all the tasks > > ...

Re: A clean way to introduce delay between scripts in /etc/init.d?

2006-06-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Yui-wah LEE: > What is a clean way to introduce a delay between the > scripts in /etc/init.d ? Attempts at synchronization based on time are doomed to fail. > I could force a delay between the two scripts by > introducing another script (run at S26) that does > nothing but sleep for a fixed ti

Re: A clean way to introduce delay between scripts in /etc/init.d?

2006-06-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"LEE, Yui-wah (Clement)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > What is a clean way to introduce a delay between the > scripts in /etc/init.d ? > > I saw a problem that /etc/rc2.d/S27bind9 started before > /etc/rc2.d/S25ifplugd actually completed all the tasks > ... > > Specifically, ifplugd, with

Re: A clean way to introduce delay between scripts in /etc/init.d?

2006-06-12 Thread Joey Hess
LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote: > What is a clean way to introduce a delay between the > scripts in /etc/init.d ? > > I saw a problem that /etc/rc2.d/S27bind9 started before > /etc/rc2.d/S25ifplugd actually completed all the tasks > ... > > Specifically, ifplugd, with the help of resolvconf, > woul

A clean way to introduce delay between scripts in /etc/init.d?

2006-06-12 Thread LEE, Yui-wah (Clement)
Hi, What is a clean way to introduce a delay between the scripts in /etc/init.d ? I saw a problem that /etc/rc2.d/S27bind9 started before /etc/rc2.d/S25ifplugd actually completed all the tasks ... Specifically, ifplugd, with the help of resolvconf, would generate the file /var/run/bind/named.opt

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2006-06-12 Thread gboyd
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Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 12:53:57PM +0300, Jari Aalto wrote: > | > > | > The same problem is with Office programs: > | > > | > lyx > | > abiword > | > oowriter > | > ... > | > > | > The /etc/alternatives contains a good framework to canonicalize actions to > | > common names available in

Bug#373007: ITP: wikipediafs -- View and edit Wikipedia articles as if they were real files

2006-06-12 Thread Sebastien Delafond
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastien Delafond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: wikipediafs Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Mathieu Blondel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://wikipediafs.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : View

Re: Non-DD's in debian-legal

2006-06-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, I *do* believe that d-l is a cesspit, and I for one am very > glad that in its current incarnation, it is not at all binding and has > no value other than being a debating socity --- a debating socity that > I am very glad that I can avoid, thank

Bug#373008: ITP: collectd -- statistics collection daemon

2006-06-12 Thread Sebastian Harl
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastian Harl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: collectd Version : 3.9.3 Upstream Author : Florian Forster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://collectd.org/ * License : GPL Description : statistics collection daem

Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-12 Thread Jari Aalto
| an off-topic question: | | why x-office-word, x-office-excel, etc? | are these trying to express "the replacement for microsoft windows | word, excel" ? | or is this what text documents or spreadsheet documents being called? It's almost industry standard to refer to "Word" as the word processor

Re: Non-DD's in debian-legal

2006-06-12 Thread Theodore Tso
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 09:35:32AM -0400, Jeremy Hankins wrote: > This is one of the most common accusations leveled against d-l: that the > membership of d-l is skewed and not representative of Debian as a whole. > If that's true there's not much d-l can do about it, of course, and the > whole pro

Re: Non-DD's in debian-legal

2006-06-12 Thread Joe Smith
"Ian Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeremy Hankins writes ("Non-DD's in debian-legal"): I'm not sure I understand this part, though. Do you think that folks like myself, who are not DD's, should not participate in the discussions on d-l? Actually, I thi

Re: [cl-debian] Bug#356948: stumpwm: Clarify README.Debian - can't understand a thing how to start this wm

2006-06-12 Thread Jari Aalto
| On 12/06/06, Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | | > | tags 356948 + help | > | retitle 356948 stumpwm: clarify how to start this WM in the README.Debi= | an | >AFTER | > | > Description: a Common Lisp window manager | > Note: this is not and end user program; i.e. a regular

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-08 07:46]: > > Mike Hommey > > xulrunner 1.8.0.1-11 > > What I quite don't get is why xulrunner gets warnings while firefox > and thunderbird don't... I compiled with both gcc 4.1 and 4.2. GCC 4.2 cannot compile thunderbird because of a compiler bug, a

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-09 16:21]: > Moreover, I don't understand how you managed to build xulrunner with gcc > 4.1. I just tried and got loads of > error: no suitable 'operator delete' for 'whateverClass' > on delete operators defined as operator delete(void *, size_t). >From w

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-07 02:20]: >> We did pick two compiler warnings and scanned the build logs of one >> archive rebuild on alpha (64bit), where wrong code may be generated. >> These warnings can be found in 1600 packages [4];

Re: /usr/share and -common pkgs

2006-06-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > -common packages are used to reduce the size of the archive; arch > independant data need not be included in each of the 10+ arch-specific > binary packages; only one package is needed. > > As expected, most of the contents of the -common packages are in

Re: Renaming a package

2006-06-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Daniel Kobras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 02:15:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: >> Daniel Kobras writes ("Re: Renaming a package"): >> > but the alternative patch to dpkg is quite simple (see >> > below). Alas, it changes current behaviour. >> >> I don't think it this pa

Re: Conflict field for logical conflicts?

2006-06-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 07:39:55PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> What you want is: >> >> jed: Provides: jed-abi-23 >> jed-extra: Depends: jed-abi-23 >> >> You should add such a provides in jed now and update the jed-extra >> package asap. The

Re: [cl-debian] Bug#356948: stumpwm: Clarify README.Debian - can't understand a thing how to start this wm

2006-06-12 Thread Faré
On 12/06/06, Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | tags 356948 + help | retitle 356948 stumpwm: clarify how to start this WM in the README.Debian AFTER Description: a Common Lisp window manager Note: this is not and end user program; i.e. a regular window manager. Why not just

Re: outdated changelog timestamps (was Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields)

2006-06-12 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Adeodato Simó [Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:11:56 +0200]: > > It would be fairly easy to make dch only update the date when doing a > > dch -r. > Mmm? To be consistent with my quoted paragraph, this should read [snip: what joeyh said, with different words] Eh, excuse my mental hiccup, you got it right,

Bug#372930: ITP: kolabadmin -- administration tool for kolab groupware

2006-06-12 Thread Steffen Joeris
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Joeris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kolabadmin Version : not yet released, talking to author Upstream Author : Tobias König <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://wgess16.dyndns.org/~tobias/qt/kolabadmin/ * License

Re: Non-DD's in debian-legal

2006-06-12 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jeremy Hankins writes ("Non-DD's in debian-legal"): >> I'm not sure I understand this part, though. Do you think that folks >> like myself, who are not DD's, should not participate in the discussions >> on d-l? > > Actually, I think they should not partic

Sound card issues [WAS: Re: Hello!]

2006-06-12 Thread Roberto Sanchez
KlarsDev wrote: Hi, i have this problem: I have debian 3.1 sarge installed on my PC, but i encounter some problems with my sound device. My sound card is C-media(external) it works ok, but i have a 5.1 EBODA sound system and i don`t know how to make it work with debian. I tried with alsa but

/usr/share and -common pkgs

2006-06-12 Thread Justin Pryzby
-common packages are used to reduce the size of the archive; arch independant data need not be included in each of the 10+ arch-specific binary packages; only one package is needed. As expected, most of the contents of the -common packages are in /usr/share: time zgrep -Ff <(apt-cache search -n

Re: outdated changelog timestamps (was Re: Date and Upsteam-URL fields)

2006-06-12 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Joey Hess [Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:53:41 -0400]: > Adeodato Simó wrote: > > package (1.1) unstable; urgency=low > > [ Joe Random ] > > * Foo. > > -- UNRELEASED > This is very annoying when doing a test build, since it's not a valid > changelog format and so you have to fake up some r

Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-12 Thread Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
an off-topic question: why x-office-word, x-office-excel, etc? are these trying to express "the replacement for microsoft windows word, excel" ? or is this what text documents or spreadsheet documents being called? -- Fred On 6/12/06, Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/12/06,

Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-12 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 6/12/06, Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there any coordinated effort to standardize the name of the provided programs in /etc/alternatives? I don't think this concerns debian-policy at all. The use of alternatives is something that needs to be coordinated amont the maintainers of

Re: Who can make binding legal agreements

2006-06-12 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 6/7/06, Jon Kåre Hellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Second question: Has a binding legal agreement been made? Indeed it has. Ftp-masters are empowered by Debian to include packages in the archive. They are without question agents of Debian. Debian must accept the legal consequences of their age

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jean Parpaillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.12.0931 +0200]: > Uhhh, > I did not want to launch such a big discussion :-) Then you should not have written to debian-devel. :) > - I first used a simple "rules" script, because I can not imagine > using a wrapper while not knowing the sy

Sgt Mark From Iraq

2006-06-12 Thread Mark Hanson
Attn: I know you would be surprised to read from someone relatively unknown to you before. My name is Sgt. Mark Hanson, a U.S. Army 1st Armored Division, which was deployed to Iraq in the beginning of the war in Iraq. I would like to share some highly personal classified information about my

Fwd: Different crashes on E420R DD wanted

2006-06-12 Thread Daniel J . Priem
Hello since i didnt get any response on d-sparc i post it here too. Daniel Hello, i have here an full equiped E420R wich frequently crashes under sarge etc.. with some SYM... errors. Now i am looking for a person who is really experienced with such machines and the Hardware inside to have a look

Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-12 Thread Jari Aalto
| Guillem Jover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | reassign 363486 debian-policy | | each package should agree on which interface is needed to be able to | provide a specific alternative. And if they should provide a virtual | package for it. | | On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 14:44:08 +0300, Jari Aalto wrote: | > Pa

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-12 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Steve Langasek 2006-06-10 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Is it no longer a requirement of NM that applicants demonstrate themselves > capable of putting together a source package without the use of rules > helpers? Not in that length. The template question used by most AMs is: Write a small shell sc

Re: stumpwm: Clarify README.Debian - can't understand a thing how to start this wm

2006-06-12 Thread Jari Aalto
| | tags 356948 + help | retitle 356948 stumpwm: clarify how to start this WM in the README.Debian | thanks | | Hello! | | For d-d: I'd like a more general advice about the user request, which | I'm quite reluctant to accomplish. | | For all: please honor the R-T and M-F-T headers (no need to c

Re: Hello!

2006-06-12 Thread Andrew Donnellan
This is a *DEVELOPMENT* mailing list. Send this to debian-user (I've forwarded this) or ask on the Debian forums (http://forums.debian.net). On 6/12/06, KlarsDev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, i have this problem: I have debian 3.1 sarge installed on my PC, but i encounter some problems with my

Hello!

2006-06-12 Thread KlarsDev
Hi, i have this problem:I have debian 3.1 sarge installed on my PC, but i encounter some problems with my sound device. My sound card is C-media(external) it works ok, but i have a 5.1 EBODA sound system and i don`t know how to make it work with debian. I tried with alsa but i can only use a 4 chan

Re: Renaming a package

2006-06-12 Thread Daniel Kobras
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 02:15:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Daniel Kobras writes ("Re: Renaming a package"): > > but the alternative patch to dpkg is quite simple (see > > below). Alas, it changes current behaviour. > > I don't think it this patch is correct as is, but something similar > migh

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
Loïc Minier skrev: Is Debhelper our C and CDBS our C++? CDBS is to debhelper as XSLT (or prolog) is to C (or another procedural language). - tfheen

Re: GBit performance problem with nfs client

2006-06-12 Thread Gordon Grubert
The most interesting fact is, that I obtain about 10MB/s with my Debian client if I connect the file server to a 100MBit Port on the switch. You might also want to try another GB switch to see if that has the same problem. NFS seems to do quite funny things (perhaps some speed hacks including

Bug#372849: ITP: wired -- music production and creation software

2006-06-12 Thread Samuel Mimram
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Mimram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: wired Version : 0.2.2 Upstream Author : The Wired Team * URL : http://wired.sf.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : music production and creatio

Re: CDBS and dh_install

2006-06-12 Thread Jean Parpaillon
Uhhh, I did not want to launch such a big discussion :-) Here is my opinion (this is my first packages for Debian, and people on debian-mentors know it has not been easy to follow the whole policy ;-) - I first used a simple "rules" script, because I can not imagine using a wrapper while not know