On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:48:20PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
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Still, I don't think we need to bring in that unknown $user, I think this
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Hi,
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 23:46, Steve Langasek wrote:
Some archs have already problems keeping up
[citation needed]
:-)
http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-quarter-big.png
regards,
Holger
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On 2008-12-03, Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sune Vuorela [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And from my maintainer point of view, lintian becomes more and more
irrelevant, as it warns about more and more stupidities, so the real
issues is being hidden in the amount of crap outputted.
If you
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
Packages that only add new binary components are already sorted above
packages that have completly new source, to decrease their time in the
queue, as their checks are much faster done than a complete source
review. But even those
Amaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wrong! The overrriden ones should be a lot of fun to look at.
Well, the override file is there for a purpose - it's entirely
possible that lintian gives a false positive or the package in
question has a valid exception for the error. In any case the lintian
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 09:25:43AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 23:46, Steve Langasek wrote:
Some archs have already problems keeping up
[citation needed]
:-)
http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-quarter-big.png
First, that graph isn't a measure of how the
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 02:01:49AM +0100, Amaya wrote:
could be very much automatic, just as Zach pointed out. An automatic
/me loves the Spanish pronunciation of my (nick)name :-)
Nah, blame me, for letting búbúlle pamper me with allowing me to
pronounce his nickname as I wish ;)
I
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:03:49PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I submit that lintian warnings are entirely out of scope for the task the
project has entrusted to the ftp team, and that mentioning this at all as a
factor in making the NEW queue
On Thu, Dec 04 2008, Steve Langasek wrote:
Which is why the ftp team should not be taking it upon themselves to
overrule other developers' assessments of which bugs are critical to
fix unless those overrulings are grounded in a clear consensus.
If you have doubts about the quality of your
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:51:34 -0800
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I completely disagree. It's a welcome benefit if packages of
inferior quality are prevented from entering the archive in the
first place imo. If you want to test packages not yet ready for
debian
The fallacy here
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 04:22:05PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
I submit that lintian warnings are entirely out of scope for the
task the project has entrusted to the ftp team, and that mentioning
And indeed, the proposal [1] (or at least my proposal) is to let dak
automatically reject on
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:44:03 +0100
Amaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe providing some sort of updated unstable to test our packages on,
in case we don't trust that our system has not become too tainted due
to intensive testing, would help. I know some of us do not have the
resources to easily
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 01:04:14PM +, Noah Slater wrote:
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 01:50:22PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:26:03PM +, Noah Slater wrote:
How should we go about collecting to the contributers? Should I post
a note to the wiki (alerting
On Wed, Dec 03 2008, Noah Slater wrote:
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 10:52:39AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
Why do you need a separate mailing list for a single proposal? Please
discuss this on debian-devel or debian-project, which are already perfectly
adequate lists for this.
We have
Sune Vuorela [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Latest, the warning about quilt patches without any description. Sure it
is nice to have a description, but I don't need lintian to tell it.
This is severity: minor, certainty: certain, which currently *barely*
makes the W threshold. I think a very good
On 04/12/08 at 09:25 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi,
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 23:46, Steve Langasek wrote:
Some archs have already problems keeping up
[citation needed]
:-)
http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-quarter-big.png
That proves that buildds have problems building all
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
By what process will the selection of lintian tags be submitted to the
project for review and approval prior to implementation as a hard
reject?
I think that's a pretty good question. I don't think we need a very
formal process, but as a Lintian
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 11:29:13AM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote:
Gerrit Pape [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi, I'm quite surprised how the inclusion of qmail and related packages
into sid is handled, or rather not handled, by the ftpmasters.
I downloaded the netqmail source from
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:00:17 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Sune Vuorela [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Latest, the warning about quilt patches without any description.
Sure it is nice to have a description, but I don't need lintian to
tell it.
This is severity: minor, certainty: certain, which
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 01:03:19AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Thankfully, it's pretty easy to check in advance whether enabling hard
rejects would affect much of the archive. There are a bunch of E tags
Lintian produces which occur nowhere in the archive because they're so
serious that they'd
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:28:59 -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
From the lintian hacker desk:
$ lintian -I --exp-output format=letterqualifier
[...]
Other *experimental* output formats are 'xml' and 'colons' (currently
b0rken).
It's fixed in HEAD (well, it now works for me).
Adam
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On 2008-12-04, Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sune Vuorela [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Latest, the warning about quilt patches without any description. Sure it
is nice to have a description, but I don't need lintian to tell it.
I do think the warning is correct for a lint program, and
Gerrit Pape [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've yet to be pointed to a grave or serious bug in the packages pending
in NEW, otherwise I see no reason why they shouldn't be processed and
pass NEW. I completely agree with this well written post
Does the package in NEW fix the well known backscatter
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On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:19:52PM +0100, Jens Peter Secher wrote:
* The 'keyfiles' option is now obsolete. Instead the authentication
module will automatically locate all files matching the pattern 'id_*'
(the idea for this came from a patch from Javier Serrano Polo).
That doesn't
* Gerrit Pape:
Right now, upstream doesn't completely agree with Andree's list of
bugs.
Out of curiosity, does netqmail fix at least the delayed bounce
problem?
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Le Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:40:12PM -0600, Raphael Geissert a écrit :
I of course do not want to say that reviewing packages in -mentors is always
useless, but here again we need to deal with yet another social problem which
is the lack of willingness by some people to work on their package to
Hello,
as part of the Debian Mono Team, I'm trying to get ikvm [1] into an usable
state.
I've contacted the upstream author, since the build process is *nasty*, at
least: it *requires* GNU Classpath's and OpenJDK's sources (upstream specified
that a *full* *build* of OpenJDK is required, because
Le Wednesday 03 December 2008 22:15:50 Joerg Jaspert, vous avez écrit :
Packages that only add new binary components are already sorted above
packages that have completly new source, to decrease their time in the
queue, as their checks are much faster done than a complete source
review. But
David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] (04/12/2008):
How should I behave here?
1) Should I include the sources in debian/ and do all the needed
steps to get a full compile? (notice that if we follow this, each
IKVM build will include an OpenJDK build...)
2) Or should I make two separate
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 07:26:06PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
Recent work from Steve McIntyre (current DPL) in coordination with Ryan
Murray (wanna-build maintainer and buildd admin for several architectures)
has led to the injection of new blood in the buildd.debian.org world. We
Will
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Cyril Brulebois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] (04/12/2008):
Any suggestion is very welcome.
3) Run away.
4) Prepare asbestos suit. Then build-depend on openjdk-6-source and
notify the release team about the need to binNMU every time
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 02:03:52AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
|| On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:19:52PM +0100, Jens Peter Secher wrote:
||
|| * The 'keyfiles' option is now obsolete. Instead the authentication
|| module will automatically locate all files matching the pattern 'id_*'
||
* Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081203 18:19]:
I completely disagree. It's a welcome benefit if packages of inferior
quality are prevented from entering the archive in the first place imo.
We currently have a long reviewing process before packages get into the
archive. But once they are
2008/12/4 Vincent Zweije [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 02:03:52AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
|| On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:19:52PM +0100, Jens Peter Secher wrote:
||
|| * The 'keyfiles' option is now obsolete. Instead the authentication
|| module will automatically
Hi,
This is a short note to tell you all about what kind of events are
happening in Japan.
Upcoming events before the end of this year:
1. Kansai Debian Meeting
14 Dec 2008 in Osaka
http://wiki.debian.org/KansaiDebianMeeting
2. Tokyo Area Debian Meeting
20 Dec 2008 in Ogikubo
2008/12/4 Luca Niccoli [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/12/3 Jens Peter Secher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Because of the security implications of changing a PAM module, I would
welcome some peer reviewing of the changes I have made. The new package
has been uploaded to experimental, and the NEWS.Debian is as
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 10:09:37AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
It shouldn't need to be more than this, because packages shouldn't be
uploaded with problems that can be trivially identified at NEW
processing time.
Agreed.
However, considering some of the rejects which have
recently been
Hi,
recently a user made me aware that multisync_0.82-8.1 is still shipping
in lenny currently.
The 0.8x series of multisync has been abandoned upstream for several
years now, and I think the opensync-0.22 packages together with
kitchensync should give at least the same user experience for
2008/12/4 Jens Peter Secher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
To do that you will need to change /etc/pam.d/ssh-auth to
auth sufficient pam_ssh.so
I know, that's why I'm not complaining =)
May writing it in the README.Debian could be a good idea.
Hmm, if noone else has access to the computer (including
2008/12/4 Luca Niccoli [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/12/4 Jens Peter Secher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
To do that you will need to change /etc/pam.d/ssh-auth to
auth sufficient pam_ssh.so
I know, that's why I'm not complaining =)
May writing it in the README.Debian could be a good idea.
OK, will do.
The only thing that's been seriously discussed with an eye to
implementation, so far as I know, is to automatically reject on the basis
of a hand-selected and very limited subset of Lintian tags, which would
probably not affect anything that you're doing and which would certainly
not
By what process will the selection of lintian tags be submitted to the
project for review and approval prior to implementation as a hard
reject?
I think that's a pretty good question. I don't think we need a very
formal process, but as a Lintian maintainer, I'd kind of like people to
2008/12/4 Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have a list of tags. In Extremadura I had other ftpteam members and a
lintian maintainer look at it. Whenever this gets implemented this list will
be made public and then have a place on ftp-master.d.o webpage
somewhere. And everyone can comment on
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 09:50:04AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
As you can see, there are short times where the buildds for one arch
have problem keeping up with the load, but that's often caused by :
- one of the buildds being temporarily unavailable
- one of the buildds building a very big
I have a list of tags. In Extremadura I had other ftpteam members and a
lintian maintainer look at it. Whenever this gets implemented this list will
be made public and then have a place on ftp-master.d.o webpage
somewhere. And everyone can comment on it.
So it was already decided that it was
Sune Vuorela wrote:
[...]
And other warnings that could be changed:
dbg-package-missing-depends - if there 1 dbg package and multiple
arch depending packages beside that.
Will try to work on a dh-like command (or maybe a patch against dh_strip,
depends on what Joey prefers) that will
Adam D. Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As I mentioned to Sune on IRC last night, the quilt tag's severity was
copied from the equivalent dpatch tag (which was originally implemented
as a warning and then moved to minor/certain during the transition).
I've no problem with downgrading the
On 2008-12-04, Raphael Geissert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Will try to work on a dh-like command (or maybe a patch against dh_strip,
depends on what Joey prefers) that will basically scan
debian/*/foo-dbg/usr/lib/debug/(*) and try to find a file under debian/*/
matching the subgrouped
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 12:51 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Adam D. Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As I mentioned to Sune on IRC last night, the quilt tag's severity was
copied from the equivalent dpatch tag (which was originally implemented
as a warning and then moved to minor/certain
Neil Williams wrote:
d) fix as many other lintian errors as possible throughout the archive.
(Quite a lot of lintian errors - some that I would consider quite
serious - affect several hundred packages.)
Actually, that's on my list of proposed QA RGs for squeeze, and am willing to
work on it
Adam D. Barratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
... and did that an hour ago. Apologies for not waiting a little longer
for objections / consensus.
Oh, no, it's no problem. I was being too conservative. Thank you!
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Sune Vuorela [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No. it actually wouldn't work.
In kde, for example kdepim, contains applications like
- korganizer
- kaddressbook
- kmail
- kpilot
With a -dbg package depending on all apps, the user will have to install
all apps just for getting a backtrace
Hi Charles,
Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:40:12PM -0600, Raphael Geissert a écrit :
I of course do not want to say that reviewing packages in -mentors is always
useless, but here again we need to deal with yet another social problem which
is the lack of willingness by
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:03:49PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
There should be no minor-severity bugs that result in lintian errors.
If there are, that's a bug in Lintian. Please report it. The lowest
threshold that produces an E tag is severity:
Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2008-12-04, Raphael Geissert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Will try to work on a dh-like command (or maybe a patch against dh_strip,
depends on what Joey prefers) that will basically scan
debian/*/foo-dbg/usr/lib/debug/(*) and try to find a file under debian/*/
matching the
Hi there!
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:12:55 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody
know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly
handled in a saner way with Evince (or kde-based lookalike) in some
Thomas Viehmann wrote:
The particular pass through NEW that has been used to demonstrate the
deficiency of NEW processing was necessitated by the rename
iceweasel-l10n-hi to iceweasel-l10n-hi-in introduced in the previous
upload (and processed in 3-4 days or so). This rename took place after
On 2008-12-04, Raphael Geissert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Using ORed depends, I forgot to say.
How would OR'ed depends work?
let us look at a example:
package: kdepim-dbg
depends: korganizer (= ${binary:Version})|kaddressbook (=${binary:version})
version: 4.1.3-1
now, I install korganizer
Sune Vuorela [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How would OR'ed depends work?
let us look at a example:
package: kdepim-dbg
depends: korganizer (= ${binary:Version})|kaddressbook (=${binary:version})
version: 4.1.3-1
now, I install korganizer 4.1.3-1 and kdepim-dbg.
later, 4.1.3-2 gets uploadde
Faidon Liambotis wrote:
Quality assurance of existing packages is a job for the QA team.
And since everybody makes part of the QA team what you are really saying
is: Quality assurance of existing packages is a job for me.
ftp-masters are doing a great, often thankless, job. Instead of just
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:48:20PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
[...]
What about encouraging those impatient folks (please don't be just exclusive
to DDs) to track down (at times from mentors.d.n) the source package and
review it themselves. Any finding should be
The best solution would just be to drop most -dbg packages, drop
maintainer-uploaded binary packages (using the buildd built packages
instead), install the dh_strip from debug.d.n on all the buildds and
get people to use -dbgsym packages from debug.d.n.
--
bye,
pabs
Paul Wise wrote:
The best solution would just be to drop most -dbg packages, drop
maintainer-uploaded binary packages (using the buildd built packages
instead), install the dh_strip from debug.d.n on all the buildds and
get people to use -dbgsym packages from debug.d.n.
a) That doesn't
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 482 (new: 3)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 114 (new: 0)
Total number of packages
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