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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:31:15AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 06:47:07AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
Am Donnerstag 25 Juni 2009 05:21:45 schrieb Raphael Geissert:
I just noticed I forgot to say something:
What won't change:
* Bash will still be used as the
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes:
I'd say if /bin/sh points to the current default (/bin/bash), then it
should be modified. OTOH, if it was modified locally by the admin to
point somewhere else, leave it alone.
That would potentially break locally written or installed scripts. Not
Quoting Raphael Geissert (atom...@gmail.com):
Switch the default /bin/sh to dash in the following weeks
/me applauses
(I'm using dash as /bin/sh for about NN years now: IIRC I switched after
Marga's work in the GSOC about the boot process speed up)
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On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:49:55PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
This would also eliminate people that have fake ID from places
that most people wouldn't recognise at all -- we're almost bound
to have a local that will recognise it as fake, and so not sign.
By adding the denouncement
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:10:46AM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
And so that all users that upgrade do not benefit from the goal of this
change? Even better.
This is to avoid causing undesirable effects when upgrading. People have
always been concerned about such kind of changes, and they
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:49:55PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
This would also eliminate people that have fake ID from places
that most people wouldn't recognise at all -- we're almost bound
to have a local that will recognise it as fake, and so not sign.
By adding the
also sprach Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [2009.06.25.0703 +0200]:
You are putting *way* too much weight and importance into the
government-issued document, and basically none into the identity of
the holder. Seriously: we're supposed to be certifying identities,
not the authenticity of
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:51:58 -0500, Raphael Geissert
atom...@gmail.com wrote:
Side effects:
* Errors caused by the use of bashisms.
* Faster boot, builds, and general usage of /bin/sh scripts.
* Reduced memory footprint when running /bin/sh scripts.
Counter side effects:
* During the following
On 25/06/09 at 10:05 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:51:58 -0500, Raphael Geissert
atom...@gmail.com wrote:
Side effects:
* Errors caused by the use of bashisms.
* Faster boot, builds, and general usage of /bin/sh scripts.
* Reduced memory footprint when running /bin/sh
On 2009-06-25 10:05 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
Do you have statistics about how many packages would be instantly RC
buggy because they have #!/bin/bash scripts and would now need to
depend or even pre-depend on bash? Since bash is essential, it is a
bug to explicitly depend on bash, and after
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Very strange logic. BTW AFAIK justice doesn't identify people
because of ID documents.
It certainly does. Just imagine what will happen if you make yourself
wanted by the authorities and then show your (valid) documents to some
police officers. In case you don't
Hi,
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:51:58 -0500
Raphael Geissert atom...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody,
I think everyone readying this list is more than aware of the
intention to switch to dash as the default /bin/sh.
A lot of work has been done on many sides to make this switch doable
and as
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martin f krafft wrote:
The government IDs are relevant because when we're collaborating
on an OS where there's minimal code review of the work done by
maintainers and a well-chosen malicious package could cause
millions or billions of dollars in
On 25/06/09 at 10:32 +0200, Harald Braumann wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:51:58 -0500
Raphael Geissert atom...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody,
I think everyone readying this list is more than aware of the
intention to switch to dash as the default /bin/sh.
A lot of work
Hi,
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:08:26 +0200
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
I’ve requested a new lintian check, and here is the list of affected
packages.
Hideki Yamane (Debian-JP) henr...@debian.or.jp
ttf-dejima-mincho (U)
ttf-kanjistrokeorders (U)
ttf-kiloji (U)
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debian Xfce Team pkg-xfce-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
* Package name: xfce4-indicator-plugin
Version : 0.0.1
Upstream Author : Mark Trompell m...@foresightlinux.org
* URL :
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debian Xfce Team pkg-xfce-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
* Package name: indicator-applet
Version : 0.0.2
Upstream Author : Ted Gould t...@canonical.com
* URL : https://launchpad.net/indicator-applet
* License : GPL-3,
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Laurent Vallar v...@zbla.net
* Package name: sinatra
Version : 0.9.3
Upstream Author : Blake Mizerany blake.mizer...@gmail.com
* URL : http://www.sinatrarb.com/
* License :
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:23:31PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
For example, I think US drivers' licenses are only verifiable by someone
who's lived in that state or otherwise seen drivers' licenses from that
state. I really dislike seeing people use them at key signings and
would rather see
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:30:52AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
Would subkeys help in this scenario? (hint hint, some good docs about
real-world subkey usage are needed).
Subkeys cannot (to my knowledge) be used for certification (i.e. key signing).
At least not with stock gnupg.
Kind regards,
On Sunday 21 June 2009 03:33:33 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
snip
The Release could be signed using an rsign method with the machine(s)
that manage the repository, or it could be done locally on the server
using gpg-agent, or an unencrypted private key, depending on how the
administrator
Joseph Rawson umebos...@gmail.com writes:
On Sunday 21 June 2009 03:33:33 Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
snip
The Release could be signed using an rsign method with the machine(s)
that manage the repository, or it could be done locally on the server
using gpg-agent, or an unencrypted private
Artur R. Czechowski artu...@hell.pl writes:
Hello,
I made a quick glance at /emul/ia32-linux to lib32 transition in BTS.
There was some bugreports submitted. All I spotted can be seen using
following link: http://42.pl/u/1GEo
Shouldn't all of them be set to RC severity as they are
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 23:08:26 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Hi,
since version 2.6.0-4, fontconfig includes a trigger that will re-run
fc-cache whenever needed.
Therefore, all font packages that currently do this in the postinst are
strongly advised to remove these calls. The
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org (25/06/2009):
Still, as a DD, I would like to explicitly switch to dash to help in
spotting possible problems. Can you please consider document how to
switch? I guess switching the symlink is enough, but an entry in
README.Debian saying explicitly so (and
Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net (25/06/2009):
On 25/06/09 at 10:32 +0200, Harald Braumann wrote:
Checkbashisms is a lintian check, right?
No, it's in devscripts.
Yes, it is also a lintian check. Although not as complete, see lintian's
check/scripts file.
Mraw,
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Cyril Brulebois wrote, Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:51:46 +0200:
Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net (25/06/2009):
On 25/06/09 at 10:32 +0200, Harald Braumann wrote:
Checkbashisms is a lintian check, right?
No, it's in devscripts.
Yes, it is also a lintian check. Although not as complete,
see
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:04:37PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote:
FWIW, you will see plenty of national ID from all the european countries
in DebConf. I do expect most of germans, frenchs, italian, belgian, etc just
travelling with their cards. They do not need their passports to come.
I do
Cyril Brulebois a écrit :
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org (25/06/2009):
Still, as a DD, I would like to explicitly switch to dash to help in
spotting possible problems. Can you please consider document how to
switch? I guess switching the symlink is enough, but an entry in
README.Debian
On Jun 24, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 16:58:52 Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Driving licenses are expressly not accepted as official ID documents
in Mexico, even if they are government-issued.
That just begs the question: official to whom, and why?
Official
On 2009-06-25 14:40 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org (25/06/2009):
Still, as a DD, I would like to explicitly switch to dash to help in
spotting possible problems. Can you please consider document how to
switch? I guess switching the symlink is enough, but an
Hello list.
I'm almost finished packaging libswt-gtk-3.4.2, since eclipse is
orphaned and I've tried contacting libswt and azureus maintainer
without results, I'm a pretty bit loss in here, since I want the new
version be included in debian. Any tips?
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Le jeudi 25 juin 2009 à 15:42 +0200, Gilles Filippini a écrit :
Cyril Brulebois a écrit :
Note that /bin/sh belonging to the bash package for now, your changing
the symlink will be forgotten if you ever install another version of
bash that still has it.
Is there any rational for not
On Thu Jun 25 09:55, Adrian Perez wrote:
Hello list.
I'm almost finished packaging libswt-gtk-3.4.2, since eclipse is
orphaned and I've tried contacting libswt and azureus maintainer
without results, I'm a pretty bit loss in here, since I want the new
version be included in debian. Any
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Matthew Johnsonmj...@debian.org wrote:
On Thu Jun 25 09:55, Adrian Perez wrote:
Hello list.
I'm almost finished packaging libswt-gtk-3.4.2, since eclipse is
orphaned and I've tried contacting libswt and azureus maintainer
without results, I'm a pretty bit
Thanks for your reply.
I know I could upload to mentors. But since it's quite ethical to
request the maintainer's feedback before adopting a package, I was
asking because I have no way of establishing contact with him, since
I've tried a lot in the last days.
I'm currently doing some refinements,
* martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org [2009-06-25 04:21-0400]:
The government IDs are relevant because when we're collaborating
on an OS where there's minimal code review of the work done by
maintainers and a well-chosen malicious package could cause
millions or billions of dollars in
Hi Adrian,
I maintain SWT (swt-gtk) for Debian. If you send me the diff and dsc,
I'll look over your work this weekend. Adnan Hodzic was also
interested in adopting swt-gtk and azureus. If you like, you could
collaborate with him. Thanks for considering adopting swt-gtk and
azureus. They could
Artur R. Czechowski wrote:
What about debconf question?
dash already has one, the idea is to make it essential and default to yes,
so that as soon as it is installed the symlink is changed. If you wish to
have dash installed but not as /bin/sh you can always dpkg-reconfigure
dash.
Cheers,
martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org writes:
also sprach Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [2009.06.25.0703 +0200]:
The government IDs are relevant because when we're collaborating on
an OS where there's minimal code review of the work done by
maintainers and a well-chosen malicious package
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:10:46AM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
And so that all users that upgrade do not benefit from the goal of this
change? Even better.
This is to avoid causing undesirable effects when upgrading. People have
always been concerned about such
Giacomo Catenazzi c...@cateee.net writes:
A naive question: why does not FSF check identity of contributors?
They must sign a copyright assignment (or disclaimer), send this
document to FSF, but I see no identity check on FSF side.
They do this for legal reasons!
For FSF copyright
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com
* Package name: tvim
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Upstream Author : Francis Smit griz...@smit.id.au
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Adam D. Barratt a...@adam-barratt.org.uk writes:
For completeness...
checkbashisms started life as basically a copy of the relevant section
of checks/scripts and the two then developed separately.
More recently there's been a crossover between devscripts and Lintian
maintainership (i.e.
Russ Allbery wrote:
martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org writes:
also sprach Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [2009.06.25.0703 +0200]:
The government IDs are relevant because when we're collaborating on
an OS where there's minimal code review of the work done by
maintainers and a well-chosen
Ok, I was expecting to upload it later, but since I got the answers from
the maintainer, then I'll upload it for weekend review to
mentors.debian. I know there's work to do still, but I've tested the
packages, they install-purge gracefully, are almost lintian-clean
(besides the fact that gives me
Any one here using this card effectively with Linux?
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Severity: wishlist
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Hello,
it is well known that C++ symbol mangling result in different symbol
names from one architecture to the other. It means that libraries that
want to provide symbol files have to maintain one symbol file for each
architecture. To avoid this problem Modestas Vainius has written a patch
that
Adrian,
Are you planning to adopt both azureus and swt-gtk, or just swt-gtk?
Adnan
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 15:12 -0400, Adrian Perez wrote:
Ok, I was expecting to upload it later, but since I got the answers from
the maintainer, then I'll upload it for weekend review to
mentors.debian. I know
In article 20090625100437.ga10...@ana.debian.net you wrote:
FWIW, you will see plenty of national ID from all the european countries
in DebConf. I do expect most of germans, frenchs, italian, belgian, etc just
travelling with their cards. They do not need their passports to come.
European ID
On 2009-06-25, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote:
it is well known that C++ symbol mangling result in different symbol
names from one architecture to the other. It means that libraries that
want to provide symbol files have to maintain one symbol file for each
architecture. To avoid
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 22:40 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Hello,
it is well known that C++ symbol mangling result in different symbol
names from one architecture to the other. It means that libraries that
want to provide symbol files have to maintain one symbol file for each
architecture.
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 22:52 +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2009-06-25, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote:
[...]
You can check the patch here:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=5;filename=0001-Implementation-of-the-subst-tag.patch;att=1;bug=533916
The symbol name in
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
Artur R. Czechowski wrote:
What about debconf question?
dash already has one, the idea is to make it essential and default to yes,
so that as soon as it is installed the symlink is changed. If you wish to
have dash installed but not as /bin/sh
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 392 (new: 23)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 123 (new: 0)
Total number of packages
Hi everyone:
I'm mailing this to both debian-policy and debian-devel, because I'd
like to get the perspective from both sides -- the policy one, and the
in practice thinking.
Currently architectures are defined as a string which contains two
parts, an operating system name, and a microprocessor
Jonathan Yu jonathan.i...@gmail.com writes:
Does that mean we should be able to just pick something from both
lists, and turn that into a valid string to put in the Architecture
field?
solaris-armel, for example.
I think you have to distinguish between syntax and semantics here.
Package: wnpp
Owner: Ryan Niebur ryanrya...@gmail.com
Severity: wishlist
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:23:58PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
My question is, does anyone know of cases where a given operating
system and architecture does not constitute a valid platform (ie,
Architecture in the d/control file sense).
armel and lpia are special cases and don't combine
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