2009/9/14 Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de:
Problem: Whenever I upgrade to a new kernelversion, or there are new versions
of kernel-modules or other packages, which are only available in source-code,
it is necessary to build the new versions manually. This is rather annoying
and it might
[Dan Jacobson]
Gentlemen, I shall be delivering my talk,
Reflections of a bigtime Debian bug reporter
http://jidanni.org/comp/bug_reporter.html
Interesting topic. I had a look at your outline, and one particular
thing I found missing was good instructions on what to include in a
bug report.
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Petter Reinholdtsen p...@hungry.com wrote:
Especially the 'what did you expect' is important, as it often make it
possible to differentiate between software bugs, documentation bugs
and plan simple user expectation issues.
May be 'reportbug' can give more
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 01:46:31PM +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Petter Reinholdtsen p...@hungry.com wrote:
Especially the 'what did you expect' is important, as it often make it
possible to differentiate between software bugs, documentation bugs
and plan
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:39:40AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Sep 13, Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org wrote:
246 packages failed to build with 'Error 13' at the end of the log,
It's a big number. Can you add a temporary workaround for a few
months until most packages are fixed?
Uh, it turns
Am Dienstag 15 September 2009 schrieb Luca Niccoli:
Luca
P.S.
For the sake of clarity I attached the modified script, it's very short.
I didn't try it though.
Hi Luca,
just to make it clear: It is not the problem, how I can solve this problem!
This problem I can easy solve with a
Le mardi 15 septembre 2009 à 11:57 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich a écrit :
Well, of course, there is DKMS, but DKMS seems only be made for kernel
modules. It is greart anyway, and a good help. But what with non-kernel-
modules?
Fortunately there is not too much software with an ABI as badly
[ brief response, I hope to respond in more detail to much
of this thread soon ]
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 08:54:05AM +0900, Charles Plessy
wrote:
I think that DEP 5 still needs some work, so I hope that
you will not be too annoyed if some changes during the
discussions on the draft will break
On Sep 14, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
LB You could file this a a wishlist bug report against the iptables
LB package, and see if the maintainer wish to add this file (or a larger
LB /etc/sysctl.d/iptables.conf with some sane defaults).
What makes you believe that the kernel defaults are not
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2009/9/15 Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it:
On Sep 14, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
LB You could file this a a wishlist bug report against the iptables
LB package, and see if the maintainer wish to add this file (or a larger
LB /etc/sysctl.d/iptables.conf with some sane defaults).
What makes you
2009/9/15 Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de:
Hi Luca,
just to make it clear: It is not the problem, how I can solve this problem!
This problem I can easy solve with a little shell script. But there are lots
of unexperienced users, which are not able to script themselve. They are just
[Hans-J. Ullrich]
DKMS seems only be made for kernel modules. It is greart anyway, and
a good help. But what with non-kernel- modules?
Can you give an example?
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On Sep 15, Lars Bahner lars.bah...@gmail.com wrote:
Prey tell, what is wrong with maintainers of for example iptables,
providing a conffile
with samples (which may even be commented out) which they can
reference to in their documentation, where they comment on the
different settings?
That it
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CCing d-devel to get some more feedback (@David, this is mostly FYI -
please comment if I'm wrong)
Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2009, 09:47 +0200 schrieb Andreas Metzler:
the new gnupg now *depends* on libcurl3-gnutls. gnupg is priority
important and a part of base system since debian-archive-keyring
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Am Dienstag 15 September 2009 schrieb Peter Samuelson:
[Hans-J. Ullrich]
DKMS seems only be made for kernel modules. It is greart anyway, and
a good help. But what with non-kernel- modules?
Can you give an example?
Hello Peter!
No, sorry, I cannot. I looked at the documentation and
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 17:55:27 +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:
CCing d-devel to get some more feedback (@David, this is mostly FYI -
please comment if I'm wrong)
Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2009, 09:47 +0200 schrieb Andreas Metzler:
the new gnupg now *depends* on libcurl3-gnutls. gnupg is
]] Guillem Jover
| The other one I can offer is update-exim4.conf, which is the default
| from several ways to handle the exim4 configuration. But something I've
| always found pretty confusing and always switched my boxes to use the
| monolithic configuration file in /etc/exim4/exim4.conf. I'd
Am Dienstag, den 15.09.2009, 18:59 +0200 schrieb Julien Cristau:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 17:55:27 +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2009, 09:47 +0200 schrieb Andreas Metzler:
(JFTR: I saw your report against libcurl)
[..]
You could perhapsr build gnupg
twice (once to
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LB Prey tell, what is wrong with maintainers of for example iptables,
LB providing a conffile with samples (which may even be commented out)
LB which they can reference to in their documentation, where they
LB comment on the different settings?
LB This is what we do with /etc/sysctl.conf today.
[apologies for the late response]
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 05:35:37PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote [edited]:
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:13:45AM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote:
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 01:59:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote [edited]:
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:40:51PM +0100,
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:46:31 +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Especially the 'what did you expect' is important, as it often make it
possible to differentiate between software bugs, documentation bugs
and plan simple user expectation
Daniel Leidert wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 15.09.2009, 18:59 +0200 schrieb Julien Cristau:
it seems to me you
could just demote the hkp helper's dependencies to Recommends
(exclude it when running dh_shlibdeps, and then run dpkg-shlibdeps
-dRecommends on the helper? This doesn't require
Hi,
Michael Gilbert wrote:
if you want to add something useful to reportbug, i would recommend
kind opening and closing remarks. for example, i've noticed that a bug
starting with 'hi' seems a lot friendlier and gets attention more
quickly than one with a 'hello', which seems more drawn
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 22:41, Michael Gilbert
michael.s.gilb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:46:31 +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Especially the 'what did you expect' is important, as it often make it
possible to
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 16:41:50 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
the answer to the real problem is education. if a user didn't submit
sufficient details in their report, politely ask them for more. show
them a guide for strace, or bug writing guides, or debian
documentation, or whatever may be
Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de writes:
Am Dienstag 15 September 2009 schrieb Peter Samuelson:
[Hans-J. Ullrich]
DKMS seems only be made for kernel modules. It is greart anyway, and
a good help. But what with non-kernel- modules?
Can you give an example?
No, sorry, I cannot. I looked
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:41:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de writes:
Am Dienstag 15 September 2009 schrieb Peter Samuelson:
[Hans-J. Ullrich]
DKMS seems only be made for kernel modules. It is greart anyway, and
a good help. But what with non-kernel-
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:41:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
I've been shipping an openafs-modules-dkms package since DKMS entered
the archive and love it. It's far more convenient than
module-assistant, and I hope all of the other out-of-source kernel
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:49:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:41:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
I've been shipping an openafs-modules-dkms package since DKMS entered
the archive and love it. It's far more convenient than
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:49:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Every time either the openafs-modules-dkms package or the kernel ABI
changes, a new module is automatically built. It does mean that you
have to wait for the compile process during aptitude
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:57:06PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:49:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Every time either the openafs-modules-dkms package or the kernel ABI
changes, a new module is automatically built. It does
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:57:06PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
That gets the new kernel installs, but I don't think it gets the
updates to the kernel module source package. Although I suppose we
could duplicate that with a postinst call to
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2009/9/16 Russ Allbery r...@debian.org:
If there were a document of how to do automated module builds using
triggers or a kernel hook, I'd be happy to try that as well.
I tried to set up a kernel hook with the script I attached before, but failed.
If run by the kernel package postinst, m-a
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:19:12 +0200 Julien Cristau wrote:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 16:41:50 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
the answer to the real problem is education. if a user didn't submit
sufficient details in their report, politely ask them for more. show
them a guide for strace, or
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