Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010, Thomas Goirand wrote: > No, but we wrote that a free software in our view, should not depend on > a non-free software. The question is: is this an RPC call to a remote > (non-free) library. My take is: definitively yes. As we are clearly on > the line here, so I do respect othe

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > By this reasoning, we should move IM any IM clients that only talk to > proprietary servers (MSN, ICQ, etc) to contrib as well. Is that your > intention? Not at all, I never wrote this, I quite wrote the opposite in fact. > Even if we accept the premise that it's a RPC c

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Charles Plessy
Hello everybody, I am not completely sure it is worth discussing php-recaptcha before our archive administrators take their decision, but since there are already other recaptcha packages in our archive… Le Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 09:34:37PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : > > There's nothing in yo

Re: Bug#586589: ITP: swat -- Samba Web Administration Tool

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 02:55 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jelmer Vernooij * Package name: swat Version : 0.1.1 Upstream Author : Ricardo Velhote * URL : http://github.com/rvelhote/GSoC-SWAT * License : GPL Programming Lang: Py

RFH: Hook script will be executed twice if ifup used to bring up ppp

2010-06-20 Thread markus schnalke
Hoi, could someone please help me with a bug in the MTA masqmail? A fix was already proposed but does it solve the problem the right way? I am not familiar with ifup/ifdown, ppp and thelike, unfortunately. > The same hook script is installed in ip-up.d, ip-down.d, if-up.d and > if-down.d. If o

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 20 juin 2010 à 13:08 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : > > I don't think this adds anything to the other references and arguments > > you provided in your post; how about refraining from using this argument > > in the future? > It is another long-standing Debian tradition to tell non-develo

Bug#586588: ITP: fso-gsmd -- freesmartphone.org GSM daemon

2010-06-20 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastian Reichel * Package name: fso-gsmd Version : 0.5.0+git20100602 Upstream Author : Michael 'Mickey' Lauer * URL : http://www.freesmartphone.org/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: Vala Description : freesma

Bug#586589: ITP: swat -- Samba Web Administration Tool

2010-06-20 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jelmer Vernooij * Package name: swat Version : 0.1.1 Upstream Author : Ricardo Velhote * URL : http://github.com/rvelhote/GSoC-SWAT * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : Samba Web Administration

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Thomas Goirand | Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > | Some made the comparison (like you just did) with IM clients, specific | > | browsers (like youtube clients and others), but I don't believe this | > | applies here. To my opinion, I believe this is a remotely executed | > | procedure, stored on a

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Petter Reinholdtsen] > We do not put into non-free programs with patent problems [Felipe Sateler] > We do not have a clear policy on what to do with patented software. > See bug 522373. I suspect we have the same point, thought you mention "patented software" and I limit myself to "programs wit

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Felipe Sateler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 20/06/10 05:05, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > We do not put into non-free programs with patent problems We do not have a clear policy on what to do with patented software. See bug 522373. - -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [php-maint] ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
Dear all, could you take this out of pkg-php-maint? Debian-legal would ve more appropriate list to discuss this. Ondrej Sury On 20.6.2010, at 18:22, Thomas Goirand wrote: Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | Some made the comparison (like you just did) with IM clients, specific | browsers (like you

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | Some made the comparison (like you just did) with IM clients, specific > | browsers (like youtube clients and others), but I don't believe this > | applies here. To my opinion, I believe this is a remotely executed > | procedure, stored on a non-free server that we wont e

Re: RFA: a lot of packages

2010-06-20 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Ola Lundqvist (o...@inguza.com): > Hi Christian > > Anyone who take this package over is free to complete this. :-) Other iso-codes maintainers, would you agree? signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: RFA: a lot of packages

2010-06-20 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Oh, have I? Nice! Administrative rights will be handed over when needed. Best regards, // Ola On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:45:56AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > On 06/20/2010 10:20 AM, Angel Abad wrote: >> Hi! Im interested in vnc packages too, I use these packages every day. I >> havent upload ri

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:47:55 +0800 Thomas Goirand wrote: > I have tried to be as open minded as possible, and asking opinions of > others, and I don't think I am re-interpreting the DFSG here. IMHO, > the debate is all about how to consider the recaptcha service (eg: a > service you connect to, o

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Thomas Goirand | Because I took the time to package php-text-captcha, which has been | ready for MONTHS, it might also give me a bit more of legitimacy to | comment about a PHP module that I refused to work with, because I | considered that there was a more free alternative. Have you done such

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
Marco d'Itri wrote: > It is another long-standing Debian tradition to tell non-developers to > STFU when they try to change the meaning of the DFSG. IMHO, this is not my case, read further. > You can find the details in the last 6 years of the debian-legal@ > archive... If you have mind reading

Re: RFA: a lot of packages

2010-06-20 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 06/20/2010 10:20 AM, Angel Abad wrote: Hi! Im interested in vnc packages too, I use these packages every day. I havent upload rights, Im sure these packages are important for many people, so its posible to make a group of intenerested DD and DM in alioth for maintaintaining vnc related package

Re: RFA: a lot of packages

2010-06-20 Thread Angel Abad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El 19/06/10 20:41, Ben Armstrong escribió: > On 19/06/10 11:55 AM, Ola Lundqvist wrote: >> Bug#586413: RFA: tightvnc -- virtual network computing server software >> Bug#586414: RFA: vnc4 -- Virtual network computing server software >> > > Although

Re: RFA: a lot of packages

2010-06-20 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi Christian Anyone who take this package over is free to complete this. :-) Best regards, // Ola On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:26:19PM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Ola Lundqvist (o...@debian.org): > > Hi fellow debian developers > > > > I have found out that I have less time for Deb

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 20, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I don't think this adds anything to the other references and arguments > you provided in your post; how about refraining from using this argument > in the future? It is another long-standing Debian tradition to tell non-developers to STFU when they try to ch

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:40:01AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > You are not even a Debian developer so please refrain from trying to > re-interpret the DFSG to suite your opinions. I don't think this adds anything to the other references and arguments you provided in your post; how about refrainin

Bug#586523: ITP: spring-build -- Ant tasks and snippets to build SpringSource software

2010-06-20 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Damien Raude-Morvan" * Package name: spring-build Version : 2.5.1 Upstream Author : SpringSource Inc. * URL : https://src.springframework.org/svn/spring-build/tags/project-build-2.5.1/ * License : Apache-2.0 Programmi

Re: RFA: a lot of packages

2010-06-20 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Ola Lundqvist (o...@debian.org): > Hi fellow debian developers > > I have found out that I have less time for Debian than before. > Therefore I would like someone to take over some of my packages. > You can see the list of RFA bugs that I have submitted to > WNPP. > > Bug#586406: RFA: cou

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim., 2010-06-20 at 11:40 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > You are not even a Debian developer so please refrain from trying to > re-interpret the DFSG to suite your opinions. > Nice, very nice. I'm speechless. -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 20, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Because we don't have the source code of the captcha system itself (you > only have access to the source code of something that accesses the > online service), php-recaptcha fails all of the 3 tests when we want to > use it, which is a good indication that it sh

Re: RFA: a lot of packages

2010-06-20 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi I assume so. If there are any issue it would be easy to resolv as Luca (who is the upstream maintainer) is very easy to discuss with. I was not aware of any issue. Best regards, // Ola On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 01:16:52AM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > Hi Ola, > > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at

Re: [php-maint] ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2010-06-20, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >>> As I see it, php-recaptcha should be sent to non-free (which means >>> anything depending on it would go in contrib). I'd be happy to see >>> others expressing themselves here, in order to make sure I don't hold an >>> extreme view o

Re: [php-maint] ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi Ansgar, and thanks for letting us know what you believe. Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Thomas Goirand writes: > >> Please read point 9 of this document: >> >> http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html >> >> Because we don't have the source code of the captcha system itself (you >> only have acc

Re: ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Thomas Goirand] > As I see it, php-recaptcha should be sent to non-free (which means > anything depending on it would go in contrib). I'd be happy to see > others expressing themselves here, in order to make sure I don't > hold an extreme view on this. Personally, I believe we should limit ourse

Re: [php-maint] ITP: php-recaptcha -- PHP interface to recaptcha.net

2010-06-20 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-06-20, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >> As I see it, php-recaptcha should be sent to non-free (which means >> anything depending on it would go in contrib). I'd be happy to see >> others expressing themselves here, in order to make sure I don't hold an >> extreme view on this. [...] > Compare wi

Re: Essentiality of Bash

2010-06-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:12:09AM +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: > I don't get it. Even booting still requires bash > $ find grub* -executable|xargs checkbashisms #grub-pc 1.98+20100617-1 > script grub-common.preinst is already a bash script; skipping > script grub-pc.postinst is already a bash