On Wed, 04 May 2011, Russ Allbery wrote:
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes:
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 11:48:33AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
While I can sympathize with this (it's what I want as a developer),
it's certainly not a good idea in Debian in general: we have many
derivatives
On 04/05/11 at 22:19 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 22:12 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
While I like the idea in general, I think that it should also be
possible to upload packages directly to rolling (through
rolling-proposed-updates). It will be useful in
Hi,
On Wed, 04 May 2011, sean finney wrote:
It's an excellent idea. Some of the initial feedback that I've gotten
about DEP-10 (in particular some brainstorming on IRC with Carsten Hey)
is pointing at ideas along these lines, and I hope to flush them out
in a bit more detail RSN. But I
Le jeudi 05 mai 2011 à 08:23 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
Could you please give a concrete example of where this would be needed?
I think all existing cases should be covered by uploading directly to
either t-p-u or unstable.
Use case:
During freeze, there's a library transition in
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 14:58 +0100, Jon Dowland a écrit :
So it's best if you consider unstable always in production-mode by default.
I disagree with this. We expect *our* users of sid to use things like
apt-listbugs and to be wary of blindly upgrading. I think we should hold
On 05/05/11 at 08:51 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 05 mai 2011 à 08:23 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
Could you please give a concrete example of where this would be needed?
I think all existing cases should be covered by uploading directly to
either t-p-u or unstable.
On 05/05/2011 08:50 AM, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 12:05:22AM +0300, Cristian Henzel wrote:
What to do during freezes
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I’m not sure we really need to do something different in times of
freeze. Our time would be better spent by reducing the
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 08:58:31AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
On 05/05/11 at 08:51 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 05 mai 2011 à 08:23 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
Could you please give a concrete example of where this would be needed?
I think all existing cases should be
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 09:07:28AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 08:58:31AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
On 05/05/11 at 08:51 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 05 mai 2011 à 08:23 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
Could you please give a concrete example of
On 05/04/2011 12:20 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
Just got 1 more package accepted, after waiting only 2 days! I then
had a look at the NEW queue -- and I merely need to scroll! amazing
Thanks you guys for your work -- that is awesome that there is virtually
no queue backlog/waiting, and it
Hi,
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:56:27PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
And furthermore, even if Debian chooses to fix this, upstreams will
be forced to eventually cater to the default glibc behavior for every
other libc distro out there that does not have their own fix (and
non-libc OS's
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 09:56:03AM +0200, sean finney wrote:
Maybe valgrind already does checks like this [...]
It does.
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On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 14:06:41 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
So how do you plan to detect bugs if you never enable a feature?
Really abort()ing is not a nice behaviour, it would be way better to print
a warning and fallback to a correct behaviour.
On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 04:58:31 PM Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 04:25:35 PM Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:24:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
What to do during freezes
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If we want to do something
Hi,
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 08:12:10PM -0430, Ernesto Hernández-Novich wrote:
I've been trying to build a tomcat7 package based on the existing
tomcat6 package. After fiddling with it for a while, I've managed to
build what looks like a working binary, but I get a backtrace when the
services
Scott Kitterman wrote:
Currently Experimental is the place to upload things not ready for use except
under very narrow circumstances. It gets abused as a place for new versions
during freeze as it is, but if it's the defined path into Rolling during
freezes then there's a need to separate
On Thursday, May 05, 2011 08:03:39 AM Jonathan Nieder wrote:
Scott Kitterman wrote:
Currently Experimental is the place to upload things not ready for use
except under very narrow circumstances. It gets abused as a place for
new versions during freeze as it is, but if it's the defined path
Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com (05/05/2011):
I personally don't think uploading packages to experimental before
it is time for them to participate in transitions to testing and
integrate with the rest of the next stable distribution is abuse at
all. In fact I wish people would do it more
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Programming
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On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 08:46:10AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Yeah, experimental is not really the good place. We really want in
rolling only packages where we have the assurance that they will land
in unstable the day after the release (so automatically and not with
a manual source
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 08:55:50AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
[snip]
The point is not to paralyze Debian development, but you should never
upload to unstable a package that you *know* is broken. Uploading to
unstable means “this should be good enough for a stable release, but it
hasn’t
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:19:45PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 22:12 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
While I like the idea in general, I think that it should also be
possible to upload packages directly to rolling
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 06:51:35PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:19:45PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 22:12 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
While I like the idea in general, I think
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Emmanuel Bouthenot kol...@debian.org
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Version : 2.0.5
Upstream Author : Hatuka*nezumi - IKEDA Soji hat...@nezumi.nu
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/linefold/files
* License : GPL-2+
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes:
Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com (05/05/2011):
I personally don't think uploading packages to experimental before it
is time for them to participate in transitions to testing and integrate
with the rest of the next stable distribution is abuse at all.
* Pierre Habouzit [2011-05-05 07:46 +0200]:
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:48:46PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote:
If more new upstream versions are uploaded to unstable (because they are
targeted at rolling), it raises the number of RC bugs needing to migrate
to testing through t-p-u. How would you
On Thu, 05 May 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 08:46:10AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Yeah, experimental is not really the good place. We really want in
rolling only packages where we have the assurance that they will land
in unstable the day after the release (so
On Thu, 05 May 2011 10:39:29 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Being able to tell bug reporters “please check what happens with the X
stack in experimental” (which had more or less latest upstream release
candidates or releases), and closing with those versions; or forwarding
upstream if bugs
On Thu, 05 May 2011 17:46:34 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Yeah, experimental is not really the good place. We really want in
rolling only packages where we have the assurance that they will land
in unstable the day after the release (so automatically and not with
a manual source
gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org writes:
Same idea: Would an experimental suite that's filled during the freeze
to keep unstable free for RC bug fixes and migrates after the thaw plus
(a) PPA(s) for experimenting (sic!) with newer releases help here?
Yes, absolutely. And PPAs would be
On 12471 March 1977, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
What I expect to be needed is to make rolling a real suite that
retains packages. That will probably be needed sometimes. Though
packages only in rolling should be a transitory situation that the
rolling team is expected to minimize.
Early on in
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On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 10:39:29AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes:
Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com (05/05/2011):
I personally don't think uploading packages to experimental before it
is time for them to participate in transitions to testing and
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 10:39:29AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Yes, during the freeze I ran into trouble with OpenAFS because I had
too many different streams that I wanted to test at the same time. I
was using experimental for the upcoming 1.6
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 06:51:35PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:19:45PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 ÃÂ 22:12 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 12:51:33AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 06:51:35PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Pierre Habouzit madco...@madism.org writes:
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:19:45PM +0200, Josselin
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 07:48:45PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote:
* Pierre Habouzit [2011-05-05 07:46 +0200]:
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:48:46PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote:
If more new upstream versions are uploaded to unstable (because they are
targeted at rolling), it raises the number of RC
Package: wnpp
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Why is there no wheel group by default in Debian GNU/Linux?
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