Re: Getting rid of wxwidgets2.6

2011-10-18 Thread Olly Betts
At Paul Wise's suggestion, here is dd-list output for the packages affected by this change (excluding those whose maintainers have already responded). This list includes four packages I missed before - three because they build-depend on libwxgtk2.8-dev|libwxgtk2.6-dev (I only looked at run-time de

Re: Getting rid of wxwidgets2.6

2011-10-18 Thread Olly Betts
I wrote: > Currently we have wxwidgets2.6 and wxwidgets2.8 in the archive. We've > had wxwidgets2.8 since lenny and it's now much more widely used than > 2.6 in the archive. Upstream 2.6 no longer really gets any attention > (the last release was in 2007), while 2.8 had a point release about 6 >

Re: Bug#645723: The password

2011-10-18 Thread Stephen Allen
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 02:48:04PM -0700, Jimmy Li wrote: > This dialog box happens for any application that asks for the root > password (not gksudo). I don't know what caused it, so I can't do > anything about it. I have a similar if not the same issue. Attempting to run Synaptic from the menu,

Bug#645835: ITP: python-wxmpl -- Painless matplotlib embedding in wxPython

2011-10-18 Thread Carlo Segre
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Carlo Segre * Package name: python-wxmpl Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Carlo Segre * URL : http://csrri.iit.edu/~wxmpl * License : MIT/X Programming Lang: Python Description : Painless matplotlib embedding in

Re: Multiarch in Debian unstable

2011-10-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois (06/09/2011): > Can we give dpkg more exposure than “build from git”? It's been 2+ > months already since that announcement and one cannot really test > “Multiarch in Debian unstable” as written in the subject. It's been even more time now, can we please get a multiarch-aware dpkg

Bug#645723: The password

2011-10-18 Thread brian m. carlson
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 02:48:04PM -0700, Jimmy Li wrote: > This dialog box happens for any application that asks for the root > password (not gksudo). I don't know what caused it, so I can't do > anything about it. Please send to the bug a (potentially incomplete) list of programs that do this an

Bug#645723: The password

2011-10-18 Thread Jimmy Li
This dialog box happens for any application that asks for the root password (not gksudo). I don't know what caused it, so I can't do anything about it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.or

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 18.10.2011 21:16, schrieb Tollef Fog Heen: > ]] Didier Raboud > | > | usb-modeswitch being mostly useful for 3G USB dongles, I don't understand > | where you want the s/Recommends/Suggests/. > > modemmanager shouldn't recommend usb-modeswitch, but suggest it. > The problem then is, that u

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Didier Raboud | Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | | > ]] Didier Raboud | > | > | network-manager recommends modemmanager recommends usb-modeswitch. | > | > This sounds like the bug, then. Recommends is «The Recommends field | > should list packages that would be found together with this one in all

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Didier Raboud
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Didier Raboud > > | network-manager recommends modemmanager recommends usb-modeswitch. > > This sounds like the bug, then. Recommends is «The Recommends field > should list packages that would be found together with this one in all > but unusual installations.» and I

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2011, 17:03:02 schrieb Ian Jackson: > Timo Juhani Lindfors writes ("Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl"): > > Didier Raboud writes: > > > Let's also note as context that the goal of this trick (AFAIUI) is to > > > avoid having a tcl interpreter pulled

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Didier Raboud | network-manager recommends modemmanager recommends usb-modeswitch. This sounds like the bug, then. Recommends is «The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations.» and I belive that the use of NM/MM with a

Re: RFC: Making mail-transport-agent Priority: optional

2011-10-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 15 octobre 2011 à 09:53 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > Hear, hear. "How do I deliver mail?" is a per-system setting, not a > per-application setting, This is true for many enterprise deployments, but in the general case, it is a per-user setting, not a per-system setting. > and th

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Roland Mas
Yves-Alexis Perez, 2011-10-18 18:35:04 +0200 : [...] > I'm not even sure network-manager is needed on the desktop install, > but eh. $ LANG=C aptitude why network-manager i gnome-coreDepends network-manager-gnome (>= 0.8.999) i A network-manager-gnome Depends network-manager (>= 0.

Re: apt-listbugs

2011-10-18 Thread Alexey Salmin
Thank you, Francesco! Actually your mail convinced me that this should be discussed more widely. It's probably too early for a bugreport on the apt-listbugs because my original idea with using the "affects" field will not work as is (see below). This is why I'd like to hear opinions from debian-dev

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2011-10-18 at 15:55 +0200, Didier Raboud wrote: > Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > Drop usb-modeswitch completely from the default desktop install? > > network-manager recommends modemmanager recommends usb-modeswitch. > > network-manager wants modemmanager to handle "mobile network modems".

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Josua Dietze
The size issue was brought up by the Ubuntu people IIRC in the context of their Live CD which should include usb_modeswitch. To clear up my position regarding some of the other points mentioned: * The upstream source package will offer two easy ways of installation (covering 1 2 3). The choice

Re: RFC: Making mail-transport-agent Priority: optional

2011-10-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:53:32 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >Hear, hear. "How do I deliver mail?" is a per-system setting, not a >per-application setting, and the move towards having MUAs talking SMTP >directly to send mail is a flawed model picked up on the Linux desktop from >certain other OSes.

Re: Move all to /usr

2011-10-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:22:16 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: >On Oct 13, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: >> Some systems have quite a small /boot partition, I've had some problems with >> a >/boot partitions nowadays are mostly useless, unless e.g. you are doing >something stupid like a RAID 5

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Ian Jackson writes: >> The modemmanager package that people typically use with USB 3G modems is >> already in CD#5. > > Isn't that already a problem ? It is, I just tried to illustrate how bad the situation currently is: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/08/msg00349.html -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Timo Juhani Lindfors writes ("Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl"): > Didier Raboud writes: > > Let's also note as context that the goal of this trick (AFAIUI) is to avoid > > having a tcl interpreter pulled up to first CDs; > > The modemmanager package that people typically

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Didier Raboud wrote: [...] > == Propositions == > > So in order to solve this smartly, I think there are basically 5 > possibilities: > > 1) "Forget about jimtcl, rely on existing tcl interpreters" > >    This is mostly "repacking to avoid the embedded jimtcl copy"

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Didier Raboud writes: > Let's also note as context that the goal of this trick (AFAIUI) is to avoid > having a tcl interpreter pulled up to first CDs; The modemmanager package that people typically use with USB 3G modems is already in CD#5. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lis

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hi! On 10/18/2011 01:36 PM, Didier Raboud wrote: > 1) "Forget about jimtcl, rely on existing tcl interpreters" > > This is mostly "repacking to avoid the embedded jimtcl copy", "no > packaging of it, go on as is done currently; by relying on existing tcl > interpreters. > Pros: ea

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Didier Raboud
Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > Drop usb-modeswitch completely from the default desktop install? network-manager recommends modemmanager recommends usb-modeswitch. network-manager wants modemmanager to handle "mobile network modems". modemmanager wants usb-modeswitch because most "mobile network modem

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Didier Raboud
Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Oct 18, Didier Raboud wrote: > >> Cons: does not solve the "desktop install needs tcl interpreter". > Is this actually a problem? TCL is < 2 MB, how big is jimtcl? jimsh is 240k. usb-modeswitch-dispatcher compiled with its embedded jimtcl interpreter (that is, wit

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2011-10-18 at 13:36 +0200, Didier Raboud wrote: > What's your opinion ? Drop usb-modeswitch completely from the default desktop install? -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 18, Didier Raboud wrote: > Cons: does not solve the "desktop install needs tcl interpreter". Is this actually a problem? TCL is < 2 MB, how big is jimtcl? -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

2011-10-18 Thread Didier Raboud
Hi all, while upgrading the usb-modeswitch package to 1.2.0 [0] (currently in "beta"), I noticed that it is now embedding the "jimtcl" interpreter [1]: at build- time, the usb-modeswitch "dispatcher" (currently written in Tcl), can now be embedded in a binary that contains: a tailored jimtcl int

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