Re: Bug#654659: ITP: plover -- stenotype input method

2012-01-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Thomas Thurman wrote: > Plover is a stenotype input method for X11. It allows input of English text > using > chords rather than letter by letter, enabling typing speeds to approach 300wpm > for a skilled user. It can use a dedicated stenotype machine, or a standar

Re: Ownership issue when repacking source in get-orig-source target

2012-01-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Tille writes: > I admit that the issue might not be very important but I personally like > reproducible results (in the sense of same MD5sums). At least it can > not harm even if I admit that upstream does not care - in some points we > are better than upstream. So why not doing it if i

Re: Ownership issue when repacking source in get-orig-source target

2012-01-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 09:18:53PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 22:07 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > I was concerned about an issue Charles Plessy reported in a recent > > thread on Debian Med when he realised that the directories in the > > unpacked tarball are featuring

Re: Ownership issue when repacking source in get-orig-source target

2012-01-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 01:12:32PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Do we care? Most upstream distribution tarballs are likewise going to > feature random UIDs and GIDs in the tarball because that's what you get > from tar if you don't take any special precautions. I admit that the issue might not

Re: Ownership issue when repacking source in get-orig-source target

2012-01-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 22:07 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > I was concerned about an issue Charles Plessy reported in a recent > thread on Debian Med when he realised that the directories in the > unpacked tarball are featuring his UID/GID. I simply looked into the > uscan source how it is be done t

Re: Ownership issue when repacking source in get-orig-source target

2012-01-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Tille writes: > I was concerned about an issue Charles Plessy reported in a recent > thread on Debian Med when he realised that the directories in the > unpacked tarball are featuring his UID/GID. Do we care? Most upstream distribution tarballs are likewise going to feature random UIDs

Ownership issue when repacking source in get-orig-source target

2012-01-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I was concerned about an issue Charles Plessy reported in a recent thread on Debian Med when he realised that the directories in the unpacked tarball are featuring his UID/GID. I simply looked into the uscan source how it is be done there and found: GZIP=-9 tar --owner=root --group=root -

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Stefan, hi all, On Fr 13 Jan 2012 17:14:08 CET Stefan Lippers-Hollmann wrote: Hi On Friday 13 January 2012, Mike Gabriel wrote: Hi Reinhard, dear all, On Fr 13 Jan 2012 11:31:00 CET Reinhard Tartler wrote: > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/x2go/nx-libs.git;a=tree > and,

Re: Outstanding /dev/.udev bugs for /run migration

2012-01-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 22:11 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > There are 19 packages still using /dev/.udev after udev transitioned > to /run/udev. Unless there are any objections, I'd like to raise the > severity of these bugs from important to serious, given that the /run > migration is a release goal.

Re: Outstanding /dev/.udev bugs for /run migration

2012-01-13 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 22:11:35 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > There are 19 packages still using /dev/.udev after udev transitioned > to /run/udev. Unless there are any objections, I'd like to raise the > severity of these bugs from important to serious, given that the /run > migration is a release

Re: Bug#654970: ITP: drwright -- Known as typing break in GNOME 2

2012-01-13 Thread Jon Dowland
On 07/01/12 13:39, Savvas Radevic wrote: Typing monitor to force typing breaks. It's a GNOME 3 tool that forces you to take regular breaks to prevent RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury). What a blast from the past! drwright used to be a GNOME 2 panel app that did exactly the same thing; it was e

Re: ITP: wcstools -- Create display and manipulate the world coordinate system

2012-01-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 13.01.2012, 10:46 +0100 schrieb Ole Streicher: >Description : Create display and manipulate the world coordinate > system This should somehow mention that you are modifying picture; I would not want a software in Debian that allows anyone to manipulate the coordinate

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
Hi On Friday 13 January 2012, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Hi Reinhard, dear all, > > On Fr 13 Jan 2012 11:31:00 CET Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/x2go/nx-libs.git;a=tree > > and, from what I see, is appropriate for being uploaded to unstable. For > > cl

ITP: wcstools -- Create display and manipulate the world coordinate system

2012-01-13 Thread Ole Streicher
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ole Streicher * Package name: wcstools Version : 3.8.4 Upstream Author : Doug Mink * URL : http://tdc-www.harvard.edu/software/wcstools/ * License : GPLv2+ Programming Lang: C Description : Create display and ma

Re: Bug#655712: ITP: template -- environment variable expander | simple template tool

2012-01-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:11:50 +0100 Michael Stummvoll wrote: > On 13.01.2012 16:00, Neil Williams wrote: > > The point about sed is that sed can substitute whatever you like into > > whatever you like - printenv with grep and sed gets the value, then > > another grep for the lines that matter and

Re: Bug#655723: ITP: stapler-adjunct-codemirror -- Codemirror javascript library for use with the stapler HTTP request handling engine

2012-01-13 Thread James Page
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Jonas On 13/01/12 16:12, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> This library provides a JavaScript based codemirror source code >> visualisation >>> component for embedding in web applications using the stapler >>> HTTP request handling engine. > How is this

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
Hi On Friday 13 January 2012, Stefan Lippers-Hollmann wrote: [...] > > 1. Did anybody *really* *honestly* tried to base NX protocol > > on plain X libraries? If this is not possible > > FreeNX upstream tried to rebase them to X.org long time ago and claimed This was intended to mean modu

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
Hi On Friday 13 January 2012, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 08:39:02AM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > And still, my basic (inner and outer) question is: > > > > 1. how can we enrol other people with our endeavour > > 2. what is needed to enrol people > > 3. is there a

Re: Bug#655723: ITP: stapler-adjunct-codemirror -- Codemirror javascript library for use with the stapler HTTP request handling engine

2012-01-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-01-13 at 02:51pm, James Page wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: James Page > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > * Package name: stapler-adjunct-codemirror > Version : 1.1 > * URL : http://github.com/stapler/stapler-adjunct-co

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Michael Hanke
On Jan 13, 2012 3:59 PM, "Thomas Goirand" wrote: > > On 01/13/2012 10:03 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > I am surprised NX is even considered for WAN usage. Our in-house tests > > showed that NX has a noticeable usability impact as soon as the latency > > reaches 10ms, while the figure goes up to

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 13 janvier 2012 à 22:42 +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit : > Seriously, have you ever tried using VNC across continents, with a > *very* slow link? It's simply too slow, it takes ages to display a simple > window. latency != bandwidth VNC requires more bandwidth, but being asynchronous,

Re: Bug#655712: ITP: template -- environment variable expander | simple template tool

2012-01-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:43:03 +0100 Michael Stummvoll wrote: > On 13.01.2012 15:36, Neil Williams wrote: > > $ printenv|grep GDM_LANG|sed -e 's/GDM_LANG=//' > > > > #!/bin/sh > > GLANG=`printenv|grep GDM_LANG|sed -e 's/GDM_LANG=//'` > > echo $GLANG > > > > Why is that hard? > > > did you really re

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/13/2012 10:03 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > I am surprised NX is even considered for WAN usage. Our in-house tests > showed that NX has a noticeable usability impact as soon as the latency > reaches 10ms, while the figure goes up to 30ms for VNC - which is > currently the only serious solutio

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 15:03 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 12 janvier 2012 à 20:22 -0500, John A. Sullivan III a écrit : > > I am very concerned about the old X code, too and we are actively > > watching SPICE. SPICE has extraordinary potential but it is still > > slower than NX on WAN

Bug#655723: ITP: stapler-adjunct-codemirror -- Codemirror javascript library for use with the stapler HTTP request handling engine

2012-01-13 Thread James Page
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: James Page -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: stapler-adjunct-codemirror Version : 1.1 * URL : http://github.com/stapler/stapler-adjunct-codemirror * License : MIR Programming Lang: Java/Java

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Fr, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:10:16 (CET), Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 01/13/2012 05:23 PM, Mike Gabriel wrote: >> Hi Alex, >> >> On Fr 13 Jan 2012 10:00:29 CET Alexander Wirt wrote: >> Note that we have tested loads of different build variants against Xorg 7. The highest stability (which is

Re: Outstanding /dev/.udev bugs for /run migration

2012-01-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 05:01:54PM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote: > On 13.01.2012 03:18, Roger Leigh wrote: > [] > > All are currently broken. Whether they cause severe breakage depends > > upon the individual case. Some are working apparently OK, e.g. > > mdadm. Others are doing broken things to

Re: Bug#655712: ITP: template -- environment variable expander | simple template tool

2012-01-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
Michael Stummvoll wrote: >Package: wnpp >Severity: wishlist >Owner: Michael Stummvoll > >I'm planning to upload this new package through a sponsor > >* Package name: template > Version : 0.1 > Upstream Author : Michael Stummvoll >* URL : http://stuff.stummi.org/template.

Re: Bug#655712: ITP: template -- environment variable expander | simple template tool

2012-01-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 02:55:06PM +0100, Michael Stummvoll wrote: >On 13.01.2012 14:52, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>Why do we need this? Does it need to be a separate package for a >>very simple utility program? >do you think it has better chances to get in a package like moreutils >instead of as own?

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 12 janvier 2012 à 20:22 -0500, John A. Sullivan III a écrit : > I am very concerned about the old X code, too and we are actively > watching SPICE. SPICE has extraordinary potential but it is still > slower than NX on WAN links - not much but enough to make a user > noticeable difference

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:50:37AM +, Philip Hands wrote: > Yes, having talked to the lead developer on NX _years_ ago (2003 IIRC), > he spent quite some time trying to persuade the X folks that he had ways > of getting rid of (largely pointless) round-trips and the like. He said > that having

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 08:39:02AM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > And still, my basic (inner and outer) question is: > > 1. how can we enrol other people with our endeavour > 2. what is needed to enrol people > 3. is there anyonr in this discussion who can point us to next possible steps >

Re: Outstanding /dev/.udev bugs for /run migration

2012-01-13 Thread Michael Tokarev
On 13.01.2012 03:18, Roger Leigh wrote: [] > All are currently broken. Whether they cause severe breakage depends > upon the individual case. Some are working apparently OK, e.g. > mdadm. Others are doing broken things to try and create device nodes For mdadm an upstream patch is needed. I alr

Bug#655712: ITP: template -- environment variable expander | simple template tool

2012-01-13 Thread Michael Stummvoll
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Stummvoll I'm planning to upload this new package through a sponsor * Package name: template Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Michael Stummvoll * URL : http://stuff.stummi.org/template.html * License : GPL Prog

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Phil, On Fr 13 Jan 2012 12:50:37 CET Philip Hands wrote: On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:35:30 +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: ... Everything in this mail is just a guess, things in reality have very probably been completely different. Yes, having talked to the lead developer on NX _years_ ago (2003

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Philip Hands
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:35:30 +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: ... > Everything in this mail is just a guess, things in reality have very > probably been completely different. Yes, having talked to the lead developer on NX _years_ ago (2003 IIRC), he spent quite some time trying to persuade the X fol

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Reinhard, hi all, On Fr 13 Jan 2012 11:31:00 CET Reinhard Tartler wrote: clone 655618 -1 retitle 655618 ITP: nx-libs-light --- NX Protocol client-only libraries and binaries retitle -1 ITP: nx-libs --- NX Protocol client/server libraries and binaries stop Once you know the BTS no. of th

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Thomas, On Fr 13 Jan 2012 12:10:16 CET Thomas Goirand wrote: On 01/13/2012 05:23 PM, Mike Gabriel wrote: Hi Alex, On Fr 13 Jan 2012 10:00:29 CET Alexander Wirt wrote: Note that we have tested loads of different build variants against Xorg 7. The highest stability (which is virtually no s

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/13/2012 05:23 PM, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Hi Alex, > > On Fr 13 Jan 2012 10:00:29 CET Alexander Wirt wrote: > >>> Note that we have tested loads of different build variants against >>> Xorg 7. The highest stability (which is virtually no session crashes >>> anymore) we ever achieved is by the w

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Reinhard, dear all, On Fr 13 Jan 2012 11:31:00 CET Reinhard Tartler wrote: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/x2go/nx-libs.git;a=tree and, from what I see, is appropriate for being uploaded to unstable. For clarity, I think we should rename the git repository from nx-libs.git t

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Reinhard Tartler
clone 655618 -1 retitle 655618 ITP: nx-libs-light --- NX Protocol client-only libraries and binaries retitle -1 ITP: nx-libs --- NX Protocol client/server libraries and binaries stop On Fr, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:20:15 (CET), Mike Gabriel wrote: > Hi Paul, hi John, > > On Fr 13 Jan 2012 09:30:09 CET

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Alex, On Fr 13 Jan 2012 10:00:29 CET Alexander Wirt wrote: Note that we have tested loads of different build variants against Xorg 7. The highest stability (which is virtually no session crashes anymore) we ever achieved is by the way we currently build the code as one monolith. This is not

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Paul, hi John, On Fr 13 Jan 2012 09:30:09 CET Paul van der Vlis wrote: Op 13-01-12 02:22, John A. Sullivan III schreef: As SPICE improves, I think we should consider it seriously. Its cross platform support is very good which would no longer limit X2Go server to Windows only and the idea

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Alexander Wirt
Mike Gabriel schrieb am Freitag, den 13. Januar 2012: > Hi Alex, > > On Fr 13 Jan 2012 08:55:17 CET Alexander Wirt wrote: > > >brian m. carlson schrieb am Friday, den 13. January 2012: > > > >>On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:57:37AM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > >>> On Fr 13 Jan 2012 00:37:57 CET Stef

Re: [Pkg-x2go-devel] Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 13-01-12 02:22, John A. Sullivan III schreef: > As SPICE improves, I think we should consider it > seriously. Its cross platform support is very good which would no > longer limit X2Go server to Windows only and the idea of an adaptive > protocol is absolutely intriguing. I long for the day w

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Alex, On Fr 13 Jan 2012 08:55:17 CET Alexander Wirt wrote: brian m. carlson schrieb am Friday, den 13. January 2012: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:57:37AM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > On Fr 13 Jan 2012 00:37:57 CET Stefan Lippers-Hollmann wrote: > >forked monolithic X.org 6.9 source tree. > >

Re: Bug#655618: ITP: nx-libs -- NX protocol libraries and binaries

2012-01-13 Thread Alexander Wirt
brian m. carlson schrieb am Friday, den 13. January 2012: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:57:37AM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > On Fr 13 Jan 2012 00:37:57 CET Stefan Lippers-Hollmann wrote: > > >forked monolithic X.org 6.9 source tree. > > > > This is indeed the case. > > I can't speak for the ftp