Re: Towards d-i wheezy beta 3

2012-09-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 21:10 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:38:38PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > I'd like to see it recommend the instalation of (or just install by default) > > system processor microcode update packages when non-free is enabled on a x86 > >

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Ztatik Light wrote: > But, even *more* reason to not entirely push GNOME > aside for Xfce. ;) That hasn't happened at all, the tech media you have been reading and believing neglected to check their facts: pabs@chianamo ~/tasksel-3.13 $ grep -A3 tasksel/desktop d

Re: Changes to cia.navi.cx -> cia.vc

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Were non-svn hooks fixed too? The git ones had the hostname set in a centralised script and that is fine. It looks like mercurial-common in squeeze needs updating to fix the URL hardcoded in hgcia.py. In addition, there are 3 copies of h

Re: [juht...@iki.fi: Are you MIA?]

2012-09-10 Thread Ricardo Mones
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:47:50 +0100 Ian Jackson wrote: > Juhapekka Tolvanen writes ("[juht...@iki.fi: Are you MIA?]"): > > I sent that E-Mail 2012-08-10 and I still haven't got any answer. > > Hence, it is obvious and evident that Debian-developer is MIA. > > Please, follow your own protocols to h

Re: Changes to cia.navi.cx -> cia.vc

2012-09-10 Thread Raphael Geissert
Stephen Gran wrote: > There were only a few still using cia.navi.vc. Changed now. Were non-svn hooks fixed too? Cheers, -- Raphael Geissert - Debian Developer www.debian.org - get.debian.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Microcode and the installer (Re: Towards d-i wheezy beta 3)

2012-09-10 Thread Jonathan Nieder
(replying to -devel and -boot only) Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2012, Philipp Kern wrote: >> If we do that the same should also happen for firmware-linux-nonfree. Loading >> the radeon KMS module without firmware available results in an unusable >> (text) console. (Yes, it

A modest proposal [Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment]

2012-09-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 10, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Karsten Merker wrote: I do not think that making the default desktop environment dependent on the type of the installation medium would be a good idea; that would cause much confusion IMHO. This was discussed years ago, but (with some trepidation) I'd like to b

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-10 Thread Ztatik Light
Oops, yeah -- I guess I was mistaken. I was using `gnome-common' as the basis, but I guess that's even less appropriate than something, like, say ... `gnome-panel' ... But, even *more* reason to not entirely push GNOME aside for Xfce. ;) On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On

Re: greater popularity of Debian on AMD64?

2012-09-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 09/10/2012 09:44 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > >Why make things more complicated. What is the rationale to pick > >i686 over others now. Why change to x86-64 which is AMD origin. If > >slashed to listing are list of vender released names, it should be > >(A

Re: [juht...@iki.fi: Are you MIA?]

2012-09-10 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 10.09.2012 12:47, Ian Jackson wrote: Juhapekka Tolvanen writes ("[juht...@iki.fi: Are you MIA?]"): I sent that E-Mail 2012-08-10 and I still haven't got any answer. Hence, it is obvious and evident that Debian-developer is MIA. Please, follow your own protocols to handle the situation. I thi

Re: Towards d-i wheezy beta 3

2012-09-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:38:38PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > I'd like to see it recommend the instalation of (or just install by default) > > system processor microcode update packages when non-free is enabled on a x86 > > arch (i386 or

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Philipp Kern [2012.09.10.2109 +0200]: > > openstreetmap-client? > > Aren't you poaching in "openstreetmap"'s namespace now? :) x-openstreetmap-client? Or x-x-openstreetmap-client? ;) -- .''`. martin f. krafft Related projects: : :' : proud Debian developer

Re: Towards d-i wheezy beta 3

2012-09-10 Thread Philipp Kern
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:38:38PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > I'd like to see it recommend the instalation of (or just install by default) > system processor microcode update packages when non-free is enabled on a x86 > arch (i386 or amd64) and the running processor is either Intel

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:28:16AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Luca Capello [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]: > > > Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'. > > except the 'm' on "osm" is already a "map", so maybe os

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-10 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 9 September 2012 23:21, Ztatik Light wrote: > According to popcon, Xfce is more common on Debian than GNOME... And How do you figure that? http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=meta-gnome3 http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=xfce4 Just looking at popcon, GNOME is installed several more

Re: greater popularity of Debian on AMD64?

2012-09-10 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/10/2012 09:44 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: Why make things more complicated. What is the rationale to pick i686 over others now. Why change to x86-64 which is AMD origin. If slashed to listing are list of vender released names, it should be (AMD64/Intel 64). We picked one archive identifier at o

Re: Files-Excluded field and security implications of uscan and debian/copyright.

2012-09-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012, Andreas Tille wrote: > But these are totally different things: I understood your initial > mail that using debian/copyright is insecure. Now you come up with > the argument that using backsticks might be insecure. So either > backsticks are insecure for *any* file we are using

Re: Towards d-i wheezy beta 3

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:07:46AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Hello, > > tiny wrap-up for beta 2: the release happened one week after the > prospective date. Some tiny delays on various fronts added up and > explain that, but the overall results don't seem too bad to me. > > That's why I'm goi

Re: Bug#687001: ITP: optional-dev -- fake (empty) dev package

2012-09-10 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 8 September 2012 09:30, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 05:08:34PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: >> Package: wnpp >>Package name: optional-dev >> >> >> >> There are situations when some of the libraries listed in Build-Depends >> are optional i.e. build system is smar

Re: Bug#687001: ITP: optional-dev -- fake (empty) dev package

2012-09-10 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 10 September 2012 13:46, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:01:17PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: >> When building for as many architectures as we have, situation when some >> dependencies are missing (or can't exist) on some architectures is not rare. >> >> However we still want to

Re: greater popularity of Debian on AMD64?

2012-09-10 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 12:25:48PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 09 Sep 2012, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-09-08 at 22:46 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > On Sun, 09 Sep 2012, Russell Coker wrote: > > > > On Sat, 8 Sep 2012, Henrique de Moraes Hols

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:28:16AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Luca Capello [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]: > > > Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'. > > > > except the 'm' on "osm" is already a "map", so may

Re: Accepted digikam 4:2.9.0-2 (source amd64 all)

2012-09-10 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:06:05 +0200 Eric Valette wrote: > Unless I missed someting, the binary contained in digikam_2.9.0-2_amd64.deb > is still linked with the  libmarblewidget12 library, the control file is > still wrong, and I think the conflick with phonon-backend-vlc is unnecessary. > > I

Re: Bug#687001: ITP: optional-dev -- fake (empty) dev package

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:01:17PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > When building for as many architectures as we have, situation when some > dependencies are missing (or can't exist) on some architectures is not rare. > > However we still want to build our packages with all features possible. You

Bug#687161: ITP: harfbuzz -- OpenType text shaping engine

2012-09-10 Thread أحمد المحمودي
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "أحمد المحمودي" * Package name: harfbuzz Version : 0.9.4 Upstream Author : Behdad Esfahbod * URL : http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/HarfBuzz * License : MIT Programming Lang: C++ Description : OpenType te

Re: Status of circular dependencies in Sid

2012-09-10 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ian Jackson dixit: >There is still nothing per se wrong with circular dependencies Actually, I’m hitting an APT bug during dist-upgrades right now for packages with circular dependencies, usually two (perl with perl-modules, and g++-$version with its library), when they are indirectly depended on

Re: Bug#687001: ITP: optional-dev -- fake (empty) dev package

2012-09-10 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Guillem Jover dixit: >then some of the cases this tries to address (the “optional” nature of >dependencies for derivatives for example) would get covered by my >build-profiles proposal in #661538, which as stated there might need Yes, please! Besides bootstrapping, use cases do include derived di

Accepted digikam 4:2.9.0-2 (source amd64 all)

2012-09-10 Thread Eric Valette
Unless I missed someting, the binary contained in digikam_2.9.0-2_amd64.deb is still linked with the  libmarblewidget12 library, the control file is still wrong, and I think the conflick with phonon-backend-vlc is unnecessary. I edited the control file using dpkg-d

Re: New upstream version of velvet contains debian/ dir

2012-09-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Andreas Tille writes ("Re: New upstream version of velvet contains debian/ dir"): > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:34:54AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > Stop being lazy and be a friendly upstream to > > non-Debian downstreams. > > Charles is not upstream itself - he just gave an advise to upstream

Re: [juht...@iki.fi: Are you MIA?]

2012-09-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Juhapekka Tolvanen writes ("[juht...@iki.fi: Are you MIA?]"): > I sent that E-Mail 2012-08-10 and I still haven't got any answer. > Hence, it is obvious and evident that Debian-developer is MIA. Please, > follow your own protocols to handle the situation. I think I did what > I must do, already. Y

Re: New upstream version of velvet contains debian/ dir

2012-09-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:34:54AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > Stop being lazy and be a friendly upstream to > non-Debian downstreams. Charles is not upstream itself - he just gave an advise to upstream to diverge from what we usually propose and I wanted to check whether our advise remains vali

Re: New upstream version of velvet contains debian/ dir

2012-09-10 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:57:45 +0900 Charles Plessy wrote: > For the package velvet: I created it. I sometimes use it. I uploaded it 14 > times. I met the developer in the real life (5 minutes...). It has been some > time I have been considering switching the source package to Git in order to

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On 10/09/2012 11:26, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 10:42:35PM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote: >> OK, >> >> so let's go on picking 'gnome-osm-maps'. >> >> Thank you all folks! > > No, one package in the archive with a misleading name doesn't mean > we should have more! See also: gnuplo

Re: New upstream version of velvet contains debian/ dir

2012-09-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:35:25AM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit : > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 04:30:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > For the packages that I started and on which I am still a major > > contributor, I > > would like Upstream to include a debian directory in his source tar

Re: Towards d-i wheezy beta 3

2012-09-10 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 10, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > I'd like to see it recommend the instalation of (or just install by default) > system processor microcode update packages when non-free is enabled on a x86 > arch (i386 or amd64) and the running processor is either Intel or AMD > (easily identified

Re: New upstream version of velvet contains debian/ dir

2012-09-10 Thread Andreas Tille
[History of thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-med/2012/09/msg00024.html and following Please stick to debian-devel when responding - reply-to set] Hi Charles, On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 04:30:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I answer on debian-med only to avoid adding to the confusion

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-09-10 at 10:55am, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 10 septembre 2012 à 10:40 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : > > On my almost-only-core squeeze development chroot: > > > > root@auryn:/# aptitude install --with-recommends evince-gtk > > Need to get 46.8 MB of archives. After unpacking 12

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Luca Capello [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]: > > Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'. > > except the 'm' on "osm" is already a "map", so maybe osm-client. I like dropping 'gnome', and not doubling-up map, but o

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 10:42:35PM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote: > OK, > > so let's go on picking 'gnome-osm-maps'. > > Thank you all folks! No, one package in the archive with a misleading name doesn't mean we should have more! See also: gnuplot, not related to GNU, and no doubt many more. --

Bug#687145: ITP: telepathy-phoenix -- Telepathy echo bot and system test

2012-09-10 Thread Sjoerd Simons
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sjoerd Simons * Package name: telepathy-phoenix Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Sjoerd Simons * URL : http://telepathy/freedesktop.org * License : LGPL2.1+ Programming Lang: C,Python Description : Telepathy ech

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 10 septembre 2012 à 10:40 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : > On my almost-only-core squeeze development chroot: > > root@auryn:/# aptitude install --with-recommends evince-gtk > Need to get 46.8 MB of archives. After unpacking 123 MB will be used. > root@auryn:/# aptitude install --with

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-09-10 at 09:24am, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 09 septembre 2012 à 22:48 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : > > Even if the author calls it GNOME, it seems linking only against GTK+ > > libraries and thus usetul also for those (like me) actively avoiding the > > bloat of GNOME libr

Re: let uscan exclude some upstream files (Was: uscan enhancement)

2012-09-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Nicolas, thanks for your additional comments. I see some good ideas in your new suggestions (which do solve for instance the issue of enabling per removal comments). However, I have the impression that the discussion via mailing list fails to scale to handle the complex branches of this discu

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 09 septembre 2012 à 22:48 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : > Even if the author calls it GNOME, it seems linking only against GTK+ > libraries and thus usetul also for those (like me) actively avoiding the > bloat of GNOME libraries. FYI, the “bloat of GNOME libraries” (libgnome, l

Re: Files-Excluded field and security implications of uscan and debian/copyright.

2012-09-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Charles, On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 08:20:43AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > I would love to get a pointer to the actual line[1] which executes > > content from debian/copyright. TTBOMK, all expressions are part of the > > seeking string of a find statement, nothing more. > > the find command