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* Package name: haskell-hoogle
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Le lundi 10 septembre 2012 à 20:08 +0200, Karsten Merker a écrit :
I am not going to repeat all the discussions about GNOME 3, but
at least from the impressions I have gotten around here, many
previous GNOME 2 users seem not to consider GNOME 3 / GNOME shell
a continuation of their existing
Josselin Mouette writes (Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to
install a full desktop environment):
Le lundi 10 septembre 2012 à 20:08 +0200, Karsten Merker a écrit :
I am not going to repeat all the discussions about GNOME 3, but
at least from the impressions I have gotten
M-x thread-hijacking-mode
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org (11/09/2012):
Just because these people are noisy doesn’t make them numerous.
Furthermore, Debian (and Ubuntu too IIRC) makes “GNOME classic”
available right from the login manager, with the default installation.
Not considering
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Version : 1.04
Upstream Author : Paul DuBois p...@kitebird.com
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* License : BSD
Programming Lang: Perl,
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 01:06:22PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
I have encountered numerous people who have been complained (not in
particular to me, just i general) about changes to GNOME. Not being a
GNOME user myself I don't really appreciate these complaints.
However, I have observed that
Le mardi 11 septembre 2012 à 13:06 +0100, Ian Jackson a écrit :
I have encountered numerous people who have been complained (not in
particular to me, just i general) about changes to GNOME. Not being a
GNOME user myself I don't really appreciate these complaints.
However, I have observed
On 09/11/2012 08:07 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
M-x thread-hijacking-mode
Josselin Mouettej...@debian.org (11/09/2012):
Just because these people are noisy doesn’t make them numerous.
Furthermore, Debian (and Ubuntu too IIRC) makes “GNOME classic”
available right from the login manager, with
On 11 September 2012 08:06, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote:
Based on this, I think there is at the very least no reason to
reverse the decision to switch the Debian default to xfce.
Except as Paul said, the decision to make XFCE default for Wheezy has
not been made so it
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On 11/09/2012 08:07, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org (11/09/2012):
Just because these people are noisy doesn’t make them numerous.
Furthermore, Debian (and Ubuntu too IIRC) makes “GNOME classic”
available right from the
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 01:52:44PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Just because these people are noisy doesn’t make them numerous.
Furthermore, Debian (and Ubuntu too IIRC) makes “GNOME classic”
available right from the login manager, with the default installation.
Not considering gnome-panel
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 03:23:09PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
You can’t be serious. Xfce is way more different from GNOME 2 than GNOME
3 classic is.
Well if gnome 3 classic was the default, then fine. But gnome 3 with
the new panel as default is really not acceptable and just plain mean
Le mardi 11 septembre 2012 à 10:32 -0400, Lennart Sorensen a écrit :
Well as a user, gnome-panel 3.x is NOT a continuation of gnome.
It is the same codebase, and has the same functionality.
When gnome 3 hit unstable, I switched to something else. I couldn't
find anything, or make it do any
Le mardi 11 septembre 2012 à 10:34 -0400, Lennart Sorensen a écrit :
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 03:23:09PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
You can’t be serious. Xfce is way more different from GNOME 2 than GNOME
3 classic is.
Well if gnome 3 classic was the default, then fine. But gnome 3
Thomas Goirand writes (Re: Gnome classic mode):
Another thing: upstream decided to display a warning. I'm not sure it is
the role of Debian to decide they are wrong.
One of the points of having a distro is that a distro (being an entity
with a better view of the bigger picture and a closer
Jon Dowland writes (Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to
install a full desktop environment):
There is not a single Debian release with the version that is being
complained about. Therefore the audience of stable have not yet
tried it, and you're drawing conclusions from the
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 04:47:34PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
It is the same codebase, and has the same functionality.
It is the same source code tree, with a bunch of code completely changed,
and it certainly does not have the same functionality (although it may
be slowly gaining some of
Le mardi 11 septembre 2012 à 11:03 -0400, Lennart Sorensen a écrit :
If I can't find how to maximize a window, how to logout, or much of
anything else in the first 5 minutes of use, then it isn't usable.
Of course this is probably getting off topic for debian-boot and almost
debian-devel.
Le mardi 11 septembre 2012 à 15:58 +0100, Ian Jackson a écrit :
I'm not sure of my actual opinion about the warning because I'm not
sure of the technical background. But I think Debian should try to be
remain good and useable even on machines with poor or no 3D graphics
support, and not be
Josselin Mouette writes (Re: Gnome classic mode):
Le mardi 11 septembre 2012 à 15:58 +0100, Ian Jackson a écrit :
I'm not sure of my actual opinion about the warning because I'm not
sure of the technical background. But I think Debian should try to be
remain good and useable even on
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:07:40AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
lines like the following:
`find $main_source_dir -path $main_source_dir/$_ -print0 | xargs -0 rm
-rf`;
should really be written like this:
system('find',$main_source_dir,'-path',$main_source_dir/$_,qw(-exec rm
-rf {}
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 02:33:26PM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
On 9 September 2012 23:21, Ztatik Light ztatik.li...@gmail.com wrote:
According to popcon, Xfce is more common on Debian than GNOME... And
How do you figure that?
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=meta-gnome3
On 09/11/2012 12:55 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
Josselin Mouette writes (Re: Gnome classic mode):
Can we move on now? I don’t even understand how a *one-time warning*
explaining a user that his desktop will look different from what he
might obtain on another Debian machine can even be a serious
Well, I know there *is* a Git commit to set it to xfce instead of gnome,
but I don't know how authoritative or influential it will end up being. I
also like the idea of compressing/trimming GNOME. Thanks for the feedback.
On 11/09/2012 11:32, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 11 septembre 2012 à 15:58 +0100, Ian Jackson a écrit :
I'm not sure of my actual opinion about the warning because I'm not
sure of the technical background. But I think Debian should try to be
remain good and useable even on machines with
On 09/11/2012 01:11 PM, Ben Armstrong wrote:
every time the live image is booted they will see this image unless they
happen to be using
^
I meant to say see this error message, not see this image. ugh. crappy
proofing, sorry.
Ben
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:54:44 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
Point taken for those calls where user-input (= strings mentioned in
debian/copyright Files-Excluded) is involved. I left calls like
my $tempdir = tempdir ( uscan, TMPDIR = 1, CLEANUP = 1 );
my $nfiles_before = `find
+++ Jonathan Carter [2012-09-11 12:34 -0400]:
On 11/09/2012 11:32, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Can we move on now? I don’t even understand how a *one-time warning*
explaining a user that his desktop will look different from what he
might obtain on another Debian machine can even be a serious
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Wookey wrote:
I'd be happy if xfce was the default. Which is better depends if one
prefers 'dull-but-works-everywhere' over
'shiny-but-not-universaly-liked'. I can see reasonable arguments in
favour of either.
Robustness is a rather important/lofty goal
On 09/11/2012 02:22 PM, Wookey wrote:
If the message tells people to select 'gnome classic' in the logon
menu to make it go away then that seems reasonable to me.
Again, not really an option for our live images. Two obvious options are:
1. Modify the live image to silently fail over to gnome
Wookey woo...@wookware.org (11/09/2012):
If the message tells people to select 'gnome classic' in the logon
menu to make it go away then that seems reasonable to me.
That's not needed; I did write “at first login”. (For those who wonder, the
fact it's been displayed is then stored in dconf, see
[Neil Williams]
These are not native packages, they are expressly used by other
distributions than Debian or even Debian derivatives - just because
I'm on the upstream team / am the entire upstream team does NOT mean
that I am justified in polluting the tarball released to RPM users
with
* Ian Jackson:
So if it works just fine without the 3D I don't understand what the
warning is for.
It's a separate desktop environment, and not lust a lack of visual
effects. None of the Javascript parts work in fallback mode because
GNOME Shell isn't running.
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to
]] Peter Samuelson
[Neil Williams]
These are not native packages, they are expressly used by other
distributions than Debian or even Debian derivatives - just because
I'm on the upstream team / am the entire upstream team does NOT mean
that I am justified in polluting the tarball
Hi Gregor,
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 07:11:20PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:
like calls because system does not return the number of files.
I'm attaching a small example that uses File::Find for this purpose.
Do I understand you correctly that these are just academic examples
to spread
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:33:28PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
As long as the debian/ directory is properly maintained, I don't really
see a downside in shipping it upstream.
In the case in question it is a fork of a quite outdated packaging.
Kind regards
Andreas.
--
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:33:28 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
If the Debian maintainer uses the 3.0 format, the debian/ directory is
magically removed from the upstream tarball anyway.
Right, but it's still annyoing when importing into a VCS.
Cheers,
gregor
--
.''`. Homepage:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 01:38:08PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Wookey wrote:
I'd be happy if xfce was the default. Which is better depends if one
prefers 'dull-but-works-everywhere' over
'shiny-but-not-universaly-liked'. I can see reasonable arguments in
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 01:38:08PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Wookey wrote:
I'd be happy if xfce was the default. Which is better depends if one
prefers 'dull-but-works-everywhere' over
Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org (12/09/2012):
Does it support accessibility? Just because you quote that we're universal…
Last I heard (and if my memory is right, which probably isn't the case, so
please double check), a11y should work more or less, but with xfce = 4.10.
That's what's in
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Wookey wrote:
I'd be happy if xfce was the default.
I would be happy if we threw away the concept of a default desktop
and left that choice to people who do installs or downloading of live
images.
--
bye,
pabs
http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
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