On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 07:41:34PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
My feeling is that the user should be told go and run sudo or su in a
terminal window you opened manually
Otherwise, they can't be sure they are putting their password in a
genuine Debian popup.
Please explain your threat model.
Le 10 juin 2013 07:06, Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de a écrit :
* Bastien ROUCARIES:
Maybe crypto consolidation arround libnss will greatly help here.
jessie release goal ?
NSS has lots of global state, and its proper initialization from
another library is difficult.
Could you give
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 07:20:16PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
Is there any policy within Debian about such matters, particularly for
packages that are a default part of the distribution? Is it too late to
remove this popup from wheezy?
I think the best approach would be sudo and
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 17:07:09 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
Le 7 juin 2013 09:28, Atsuhito Kohda ko...@pm.tokushima-u.ac.jp a
écrit :
Yes, but it looks to me there is not practical information.
Did you see the wiki?
Sorry for late reply.
If you mean
Michael Banck mba...@debian.org writes:
I think the best approach would be sudo and requesting the user for
their own password - and probably be more informative about why the
password is needed or what is being installed.
By the way, this seems to be the case for my wheezy installation,
On 2013-06-10 09:29, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 17:07:09 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
Le 7 juin 2013 09:28, Atsuhito Kohda ko...@pm.tokushima-u.ac.jp a
écrit :
Yes, but it looks to me there is not practical information.
Did you see the wiki?
Sorry for late reply.
If
On 08-06-13 00:33, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Debian SDL packages maintainers
pkg-sdl-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
* Package name: libsdl2-mixer
Version : 2.0.0~rc1
Upstream Author : Sam Lantinga slou...@libsdl.org
Hi Niels,
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:36:07 +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
The wiki would probably be [1].
Ah, I remembered I've seen it. I forgot to write down its URL.
(But there were long long list of packages in the bottom
when I saw it if I remebered it correctly.)
As for lintian.d.o being
A few points:
1) if your user is part of sudo group, most of the time gnome will ask for
your user's password instead of root's.
2) Debian is a finite set of software. It provides packages (literally
thousands of them) that are stable, safe and malicious pop-ups free. It
also provides packages
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 09:59:22AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On 08-06-13 00:33, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:
* Package name: libsdl2-mixer
Isn't this packaged already? You don't need to file WNPP bugs for SONAME
bumps...
It's a massive new major release. Think perl5 vs
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org wrote:
❦ 9 juin 2013 11:45 CEST, Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no :
You do of course not have to agree. This is my personal opinion only.
But I believe it is useful to read Jamie Zawinski's view on screensavers
and toolkit
Le dimanche 26 mai 2013 à 20:02 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES a écrit :
Maybe crypto consolidation arround libnss will greatly help here.
jessie release goal ?
If we consolidate on a crypto library, it would be good for it to use
ca-certificates and not a pre-compiled list of certificates.
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On 10-06-13 10:32, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 09:59:22AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On 08-06-13 00:33, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:
* Package name: libsdl2-mixer
Isn't this packaged already? You don't need to file WNPP bugs for SONAME
bumps...
It's a
Hi,
Le dimanche 09 juin 2013 à 18:45 +0200, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
There have been multiple complaints about the new Gnome popup asking for
the root password
I opened a bug for discussion about the issue, but it was closed by
another DD (not the maintainer) - [1]. Other users have come
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:06:24AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On 10-06-13 10:32, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 09:59:22AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On 08-06-13 00:33, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote:
* Package name: libsdl2-mixer
Isn't this packaged
http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/manual/html_node/Updating-version-info.html
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.netwrote:
Hello List,
I am not so sure what I must understand by `bump the SONAME':
given that libtool machinery is employed, does is mean that
On 10/06/13 01:04, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
Hello List,
I am not so sure what I must understand by `bump the SONAME':
given that libtool machinery is employed, does is mean that
`current' must be increased by one ?
You really should read [1] if you're maintaining shared libraries in Debian
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Le dimanche 26 mai 2013 à 20:02 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES a écrit :
Maybe crypto consolidation arround libnss will greatly help here.
jessie release goal ?
If we consolidate on a crypto library, it would be good for it
Le lundi 10 juin 2013 à 11:47 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES a écrit :
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Le dimanche 26 mai 2013 à 20:02 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES a écrit :
Maybe crypto consolidation arround libnss will greatly help here.
jessie release
We'll need binaries for sdl 1 and 2 coexisting from two different source
packages I believe.
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Le 2013-06-10 10:18, Ondřej Surý a écrit :
systemd does not rely on a toolkit. So, most of the arguments
listed by
Jamie do not hold. I suppose that you are mostly worried by libdbus
since other libraries are already used in other critical
daemons.
Personally I would be more worried about
I reported a bug involving private data disclosure, more precisely,
on some network, when printing a file with CUPS 1.6, the file is
printed on a wrong printer[*]. The bug severity was downgraded to
important (i.e. non-RC), despite the obvious security problem. The
given reason was that this kind
On 10/06/13 10:21, Alexey Serikov wrote:
A few points:
1) if your user is part of sudo group, most of the time gnome will ask
for your user's password instead of root's.
2) Debian is a finite set of software. It provides packages (literally
thousands of them) that are stable, safe and
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 05:12:22PM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
* Package name: libsdl2-mixer
Isn't this packaged already? You don't need to file WNPP bugs for SONAME
bumps...
It's a massive new major release. Think perl5 vs perl6.
The point isn't that it's in the
On 10/06/13 12:34, Daniel Pocock wrote:
a) a web site displaying a PolicyKit popup that resembles the wording
of the Debian popup
GNOME Shell does mitigate this by using a distinctive UI for
system-modal dialogs, which makes use of the fact that the Shell is
the window compositor in order to
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:41:12AM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
You really should read [1] if you're maintaining shared libraries in Debian
(it's a bit outdated but most things are still relevant). [2] is also a good
read, specially if you're doing upstream development, patching the
On 10/06/13 14:12, Simon McVittie wrote:
On 10/06/13 12:34, Daniel Pocock wrote:
a) a web site displaying a PolicyKit popup that resembles the wording
of the Debian popup
GNOME Shell does mitigate this by using a distinctive UI for
system-modal dialogs, which makes use of the fact that the
Daniel Pocock wrote:
It was also demonstrated with Windows 7 that users could be tricked by
web sites that simply dimmed the background of the browser window - so
it is not a perfect solution and I would personally prefer to see users
referred to initiate su or sudo on their own.
Initiate su
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net wrote:
I reported a bug involving private data disclosure, more precisely,
on some network, when printing a file with CUPS 1.6, the file is
printed on a wrong printer[*]. The bug severity was downgraded to
important (i.e.
On 10/06/13 13:54, Daniel Pocock wrote:
That screenshot appears to be Gnome 3. I log in with Gnome Classic so
maybe I'm experiencing something different.
I did say GNOME Shell. The fallback GNOME 3.4 session (which might
well be called Classic in the UI in wheezy) doesn't use Shell, so it
It's amazing how much simpler Debian life becomes if one simply ignores
bug severities entirely. Of course harder to do nearer to release, but
we live in a time of relative luxury right now…
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It's amazing how much simpler Debian life becomes if one simply ignores
bug severities entirely.
Life for the maintainer or for the user?
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Vincent Lefevre writes (Bug severity and private data disclosure):
I reported a bug involving private data disclosure, more precisely,
on some network, when printing a file with CUPS 1.6, the file is
printed on a wrong printer[*]. The bug severity was
Simon McVittie writes (Re: security policy / root passwords):
* splitting privileged actions into an unprivileged GUI and a
privileged daemon, rather than running the GUI with privileges
(supported and encouraged by PK, not well-supported by sudo or su)
This gives me another
On 2013-06-10 15:05:05 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
It's amazing how much simpler Debian life becomes if one simply ignores
bug severities entirely. Of course harder to do nearer to release, but
we live in a time of relative luxury right now…
This is important for apt-listbugs, which takes
On 2013-06-10 15:11:26 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
I agree with you that that bug is a potential security vulnerability.
I think the maintainer adopted an overly-close and legalistic reading
of the bug severity guidelines. On the other hand I think the
maintainer makes good points about the
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes:
* ability to use system-modal prompting or a secure input path
(partially done by PK under GNOME Shell, likely to get better
under Wayland, not supported by sudo or su)
Not relevant to the current discussion but this got me curious: can
Hi Ian,
Le lundi, 10 juin 2013 16.11:26, Ian Jackson a écrit :
(I have CC'd cups-client@packages.)
(I'd prefer the discussion to happen on the bug.)
I'm not sure exactly what consequences you think should have flowed
from the bug's RC severity. Do you think the release should have been
On 10/06/13 15:36, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes:
* ability to use system-modal prompting or a secure input path
(partially done by PK under GNOME Shell, likely to get better
under Wayland, not supported by sudo or su)
Not relevant to the
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Vasudev Kamath kamathvasu...@gmail.com
* Package name: fonts-sarai
Version : 1.0
Upstream Author : IndLinux Team
* URL :
http://indlinux.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/indlinux/trunk/fonts/sarai/
* License : GPL-2
Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net (10/06/2013):
I reported a bug involving private data disclosure, more precisely,
on some network, when printing a file with CUPS 1.6, the file is
printed on a wrong printer[*]. The bug severity was downgraded to
important (i.e. non-RC), despite the obvious
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 05:42:55PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 05:12:22PM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
* Package name: libsdl2-mixer
Isn't this packaged already? You don't need to file WNPP bugs for
SONAME
bumps...
It's a massive new
On 2013-06-10 17:16:12 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Since you seem concerned about apt-listbugs, make it support listing
security bugs (optionally with a given severity threshold, so as to
ignore minor or normal bug reports tagged security), and there you go.
[ From a quick look at the
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Vincent Bernat ber...@luffy.cx wrote:
Le 2013-06-10 10:18, Ondřej Surý a écrit :
systemd does not rely on a toolkit. So, most of the arguments
listed by
Jamie do not hold. I suppose that you are mostly worried by libdbus
since other libraries are already
Helmut Grohne writes (boot ordering and resolvconf):
Why is this assumption problematic?
A number of DNS caches (dnsmasq, pdns-server, pdnsd, and unbound) employ
a technique to update /etc/resolv.conf with themselves. This updating
happens after the respective cache is started. Usually any
Vincent Lefevre writes (Re: Bug severity and private data disclosure):
Note that this is a regression. Using the testing version (= stable
currently) is fine w.r.t. this bug.
Oh, I see. In that case I agree with you. Have you asked the release
team ? They are the right people for this
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 04:15:27PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
It's amazing how much simpler Debian life becomes if one simply ignores
bug severities entirely. Of course harder to do nearer to release, but
we live in a time of relative luxury right now…
This is important for
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:17:26PM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
* Package name: libsdl2-mixer
Isn't this packaged already? You don't need to file WNPP bugs for
SONAME
bumps...
It's a massive new major release. Think perl5 vs perl6.
The point isn't
Thanks all for opinions! From my point of view, this tool will not be
used (hopefully) too often, but sometimes it is really necessary to try
it out before uploading a new source version.
On 06/09/2013 08:44 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
I have very mixed feelings about this. I do in general think
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 06/10/2013 03:21 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes:
In this blog post, you tell that it's possible not to use all the
components of systemd. Then, the immediate question that pops to my
mind: what are *your*
On Jun 10, 2013 1:28 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 04:15:27PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
It's amazing how much simpler Debian life becomes if one simply
ignores
bug severities entirely. Of course harder to do nearer to release, but
we live in a
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 02:40:17PM -0400, James McCoy wrote:
It's amazing how much simpler Debian life becomes if one simply
ignores
bug severities entirely. Of course harder to do nearer to release, but
we live in a time of relative luxury right now…
This is important for
On 10/06/13 16:51, Simon McVittie wrote:
On 10/06/13 15:36, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes:
* ability to use system-modal prompting or a secure input path
(partially done by PK under GNOME Shell, likely to get better
under Wayland, not
No need to CC me here, see Mail-Followup-To.
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 05:36:46PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
I think this is a somewhat different problem to the one you originally
state. The real problem here is that resolv.conf is changing and
programs don't have the means to cope.
Thanks for
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 07:56:24PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote:
So, I think the developer should have a set of tools (including gb and
even slight removal commands), which allow him to do the most of
packaging work without worrying other teams/developers. And, of course,
those tools should
On 2013-06-10 23:28:28 +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 04:15:27PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
This is important for apt-listbugs, which takes into account RC bugs by
default
Which too is not ideal: for example, I don't think users should care about
such RC bugs
Hello,
just like to add that today this feature with the popup blocked my gnome
within the suspend procedure, which I did not see but got a hot running laptop
in the bag. When I opened the laptop again I saw the problem and when clicking
on cancel, the laptop finally when to suspend.
I
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 08:04:27AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 01:06:40PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
[...]
In my gross stupidity this seems like a nonissue. How does a popup
asking for your root p/w differ from using the CLI, typing su and
being asked for the
Hi Daniel,
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 09:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
Every copy of jessie could be distributed with one of the red hoods
referred to in this article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance
I presume it has some kind
Am 10.06.2013 11:10, schrieb Josselin Mouette:
I consider it a bug, and one that we should aim to fix in the first
wheezy point release.
nod. that said, the first point release is basically done, so this will
have to wait for 7.2
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:43:57PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 07:56:24PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote:
So, I think the developer should have a set of tools (including gb and
even slight removal commands), which allow him to do the most of
packaging work without
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:31:07PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:17:26PM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
* Package name: libsdl2-mixer
Isn't this packaged already? You don't need to file WNPP bugs for
SONAME
bumps...
It's
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 09:45:35PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
[...]
A. resolv.conf is a static file which changes only very rarely.
Implications:
1. Existing DNS client applications do not need to change.
2. DNS service should always be provided at a fixed address
3.
On 06/11/2013 02:23 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 06/10/2013 03:21 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes:
In this blog post, you tell that it's possible not to use all the
components of systemd. Then, the
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Nobuhiro Iwamatsu iwama...@debian.org
* Package name: dh-rebar
Version : 0.0.1
Upstream Author : Nobuhiro Iwamatsu iwama...@debian.org
* URL : http://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-leofs/dh-rebar.git
* License : MIT/X
Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 06/11/2013 02:23 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Then which component would you install, and activate by default? Which
component will you make only installable if the user decides to do it
actively (for example
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If what you say above is right (I have no opinion on that yet, I just
trust what you say), then this renders the systemd is modular argument
completely useless, because practically, the user wont be able to
choose. Which is why I was asking specifically Michael about this,
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