On 11-06-13 18:37, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 12:45:07PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
Sendmail has just one more layer of indirection by virtue of the m4
macros. Postfix has most of its behavior hard coded in the C sources,
while exim's behavior can be controlled by run-time
On 12/06/13 00:02, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
On 2013-06-11 23:50:01 +0200 (+0200), Daniel Pocock wrote:
Something that doesn't have these limitations:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2487#section-7
[...]
That basically just makes the case for relying on (E)SMTP only for
transporting messages,
Am 11.06.2013 16:09, schrieb Thorsten Glaser:
Daniel Schepler dschepler at gmail.com writes:
(Sorry about the lack of threading... for some reason I'm unable to find
the
links to download mbox archives for replying to the messages.)
On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 01:04:38 +0200, Michael Stapelberg
stapelb...@debian.org wrote:
since some people might not read planet debian, here is a link to my
first blog post in a series of posts dealing with the results of the
Debian systemd survey:
Hi Michael,
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Michael Stapelberg
stapelb...@debian.orgwrote:
Hi Ondřej,
Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org writes:
and if I match this with the table at:
http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/docs/systemd-dependencies.html I
get
the result that you will _not_
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 09:49:03AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
[...]
|While it is sad that those machines cannot profit from systemd, switching
|to systemd as a default has no downside either: Debian continues to
|support sysvinit for quite some time, so these machines will continue
|to work
Le 12/06/2013 09:49, Marc Haber a écrit :
On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 01:04:38 +0200, Michael Stapelberg
stapelb...@debian.org wrote:
since some people might not read planet debian, here is a link to my
first blog post in a series of posts dealing with the results of the
Debian systemd survey:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:08:17AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
On 12/06/13 00:02, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
On 2013-06-11 23:50:01 +0200 (+0200), Daniel Pocock wrote:
Something that doesn't have these limitations:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2487#section-7
[...]
That basically just
Thanks for all the suggestions on how to implement either
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 05:36:46PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
A. resolv.conf is a static file which changes only very rarely.
Implications:
or
B. resolv.conf is not static and may change due to network
environment changes.
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]] Helmut Grohne
Just how do we move from these suggestions to a coherent system design?
Fact is that some applications don't cope with /etc/resolv.conf changing
(i.e. A). Also fact is that in the presence of resolvconf,
/etc/resolv.conf can be a dynamic file (i.e. B). The current situation
Am 08.05.2013 00:55, schrieb Matthias Klose:
Am 07.05.2013 17:46, schrieb Julian Taylor:
On 05/07/2013 03:25 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
...
== binutils ==
binutils 2.23.2 will be uploaded to unstable after GCC 4.8 as the
default on x86 reaches testing. Later updates will introduce
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 01:42:58PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
I'm not sure why you think systemd changes anything here?
One of the main purposes of systemd is to eliminate dependencies and
fulfil them with socket activation. When converting init scripts to
.service files, this will likely
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:00:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
To this exim expert, configuring exim is done as follows:
zcat /usr/share/doc/exim4/examples/example.conf.gz /etc/exim4/exim4.conf
Absolutely. At some point in the last few years I was recommended this course
of action by a
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:05:24PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
The only class of users I can imagine the current situation not optional
is someone being used to postfix[1].
Well, that's not me…
When I remember learning exim I found it quite nice that the config is quite
self-explaining
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:08:17AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
OpenPGP and S/MIME don't guarantee anonymity as they don't (and can't
really) encrypt the headers/envelope
Erm, they also identify the recipients, as it's the recipients key to which
the messages are encrypted. (and typically the
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:50:01PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
Something that doesn't have these limitations:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2487#section-7
This is also relevant (not just for Postfix):
http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html#client_tls_encrypt
Despite the potential for
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:39:28 +0100, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org
wrote:
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:05:24PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
When I remember learning exim I found it quite nice that the config is quite
self-explaining what it is actually doing.
The exim config — once I started
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:38:28 +0100, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:00:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
To this exim expert, configuring exim is done as follows:
zcat /usr/share/doc/exim4/examples/example.conf.gz /etc/exim4/exim4.conf
Absolutely. At some
2013/6/12 Per Andersson avtob...@gmail.com:
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Hi Ondřej,
Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org writes:
I still think you should also update the table with information if the
library is actually used in PID 1 (or in forked process) as hmh suggested:
It would be best to enhance
http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/docs/systemd-dependencies.html
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 04:40:22PM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
Bitrot doesn't happen immediately, and even when it does happen, it will
take time before its rate reaches an unmanageable state. Plenty of time
to test a solution in the meantime I say. Basic autogeneration of
sysvinit and
Matthias Klose wrote:
Multi-Arch isn't there yet. And even if it is, the multilib builds should be
kept for some more releases. There is a lot to do on the Debian side, and on
the upstream side. So maybe it helps your understanding to get the required
patches upstream to get multilib working
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 09:59:31AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
Why is gcc built multi-lib anyway?
because developers expect to work it. there is a lot of code which just uses
-m32/-m64 which should not deliberately broken.
This explains i386/amd64 multilib, which, while an ugly thing that
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 09:45:21AM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote:
Matthias Klose wrote:
Multi-Arch isn't there yet. And even if it is, the multilib builds should be
kept for some more releases. There is a lot to do on the Debian side, and on
the upstream side. So maybe it helps your
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On 12/06/13 12:29, Neil McGovern wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:08:17AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
On 12/06/13 00:02, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
On 2013-06-11 23:50:01 +0200 (+0200), Daniel Pocock wrote:
Something that doesn't have these
Michael Stapelberg wrote:
Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org writes:
I still think you should also update the table with information if the
library is actually used in PID 1 (or in forked process) as hmh suggested:
It would be best to enhance
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Praveen A prav...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/6/12 Per Andersson avtob...@gmail.com:
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On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 09:44:16AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 04:40:22PM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
Bitrot doesn't happen immediately, and even when it does happen, it will
take time before its rate reaches an unmanageable state. Plenty of time
to test a
Adam Borowski wrote:
Wouldn't it be easier to have lib32gcc1:amd64 merely depend on libgcc1:i386?
It'd save a massive amount of complexity.
But that reintroduces the problem which convinced me there's a reason to keep
lib32gcc1 in the first place: suppose libgcc1:i386 and libgcc1:amd64 get out
Am 12.06.2013 19:18, schrieb Adam Borowski:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 09:59:31AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
Why is gcc built multi-lib anyway?
because developers expect to work it. there is a lot of code which just uses
-m32/-m64 which should not deliberately broken.
This explains
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Uoti Urpala uoti.urp...@pp1.inet.fiwrote:
Michael Stapelberg wrote:
Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org writes:
I still think you should also update the table with information if the
library is actually used in PID 1 (or in forked process) as hmh
suggested:
Am 12.06.2013 19:25, schrieb Adam Borowski:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 09:45:21AM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote:
Matthias Klose wrote:
Multi-Arch isn't there yet. And even if it is, the multilib builds should be
kept for some more releases. There is a lot to do on the Debian side, and
on
the
On 2013-06-12 08:08:17 +0200 (+0200), Daniel Pocock wrote:
On 12/06/13 00:02, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
That basically just makes the case for relying on (E)SMTP only for
transporting messages, but leveraging OpenPGP or S/MIME to provide
authentication and confidentiality where required (or for
On 12/06/13 14:41, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:08:17AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
OpenPGP and S/MIME don't guarantee anonymity as they don't (and can't
really) encrypt the headers/envelope
Erm, they also identify the recipients, as it's the recipients key to which
On 12-06-13 16:59, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:38:28 +0100, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:00:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
To this exim expert, configuring exim is done as follows:
zcat /usr/share/doc/exim4/examples/example.conf.gz
* Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au, 2013-06-12, 21:41:
#4: Our priorities are our users and free software
In any Debian discussion, given enough time, someone inevitably mentions
SC§4. Once this occurs, the thread is over, and the person who mentioned
it has automatically lost the
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:04:06 +0200, Wouter Verhelst
wou...@debian.org wrote:
Yes, me too. It only works for me because I know exim pretty well, and
then the single-file approach is more transparent than any approach
involving generated files.
Exim's abstraction layer uses a single file as well
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On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org wrote:
== binutils ==
binutils 2.23.2 will be uploaded to unstable after GCC 4.8 as the
default on x86 reaches testing. Later updates will introduce binutils
trunk leading to 2.24, later this year.
binutils' ld-gold is broken
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote:
== binutils ==
binutils 2.23.2 will be uploaded to unstable after GCC 4.8 as the
default on x86 reaches testing. Later updates will introduce binutils
trunk leading to 2.24, later this year.
I've only tested 2.23.1 but
On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 16:04:06, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On 12-06-13 16:59, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:38:28 +0100, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:00:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
To this exim expert, configuring exim is done
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