On March 11, 2014 10:50:10 AM Paul Wise wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
I'd love to see clarification of the ftp-team's position on obfuscated
files in source packages, preferably in an official location for future
reference.
Recalling that the context of the
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 11.03.2014, 10:34 +0800 schrieb Paul Wise:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Joachim Breitner wrote:
nor mess with tarball repackaging (which I consider ugly, a cludge, and
to be avoided if possible)
Recent versions of uscan can automatically repack upstream tarballs
Le lundi, 10 mars 2014, 22.00:09 Christoph Biedl a écrit :
The problem is that there is no policy in place to make us support
oldstable-to-testing upgrades. If there's interest, that'd need to
be decided with a more firm policy than encourage maintainers.
Would you have preferred to read
Hi.
Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org writes:
Hi,
I keep discussing the same issues caused by minified JS files (mostly
JQuery) in their source tarballs over and over. Could maybe those who
care deeply about this write a concise wiki page with all that upstream
needs to know about our
Quoting Steve M. Robbins (2014-03-11 07:11:36)
On March 11, 2014 10:50:10 AM Paul Wise wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
I'd love to see clarification of the ftp-team's position on
obfuscated files in source packages, preferably in an official
location for future
Quoting Russ Allbery (2014-03-11 03:32:54)
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes:
I'd suggest an acceptable workaround is to include the source in the
debian.tar.gz/diff.gz or to repack the upstream tarball, probably the
latter since jQuery is usually an embedded code copy.
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 11.03.2014, 11:22 +0100 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
Quoting Russ Allbery (2014-03-11 03:32:54)
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes:
I'd suggest an acceptable workaround is to include the source in the
debian.tar.gz/diff.gz or to repack the upstream tarball, probably the
Distribution: unstable. Whoops. It is far too easy to make this
mistake with sbuild if you're not quite paying absolutely perfect
attention. My apologies ...
Anyway, while this was unintentional, I don't think it's actually
dreadful. testing has 2.00-22, which is reasonably solid, and I
Quoting Joachim Breitner (2014-03-11 11:29:31)
Am Dienstag, den 11.03.2014, 11:22 +0100 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
Quoting Russ Allbery (2014-03-11 03:32:54)
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes:
I'd suggest an acceptable workaround is to include the source in the
debian.tar.gz/diff.gz
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:50:46AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
Anyway, while this was unintentional, I don't think it's actually
dreadful. testing has 2.00-22, which is reasonably solid, and I wanted
to make sure wheezy ships with at least GRUB 2.02 anyway,
Cyril points out that I mean jessie
On 11/03/14 10:50, Colin Watson wrote:
Distribution: unstable. Whoops. It is far too easy to make
this mistake with sbuild if you're not quite paying absolutely
perfect attention. My apologies ...
On the Lintian side of things, I attached a patch to
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Enrico Tassi gareuselesi...@debian.org
* Package name: mathematical-components
Version : 1.4.0
Upstream Author : Mathematical Components team
* URL : http://www.msr-inria.fr/projects/mathematical-components/
* License :
Simon McVittie writes (Re: Bits from the Security Team):
On the other hand, going directly from oldoldstable to stable pulls in
4 years of changes, and I think that's likely to result in having to
keep too many workarounds and too much cruft for too long, and having
to hold back progress for
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes (Re: Bits from the Security Team):
I was trying to say that there is no policy currently in place to ensure
that skip-upgrades actually work, and at least one maintainer has
already started to cleanup pre-wheezy stuff from his packages [0].
People encouraging
Jonas Smedegaard writes (Re: jquery debate with upstream):
Quoting Steve M. Robbins (2014-03-11 07:11:36)
I can understand that it is nicer if upstream can be persuaded to
clean things up and not do either of the above. I also realize that
some folks may prefer to re-pack a tarball for
Simon McVittie writes (Re: [cjwat...@debian.org: Accepted grub2 2.02~beta2-7
(source i386)]):
On the sbuild side:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=529281
tl;dr: extensive discussion of why this mistake is easy to make and
why sbuild can't trivially fix it; Raphael Hertzog
[ not as ftpteam -- man, I'm saying this a lot lately ]
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 03:16:14PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
You have conspicuously failed to answer Jonas's question. What
objective does removing these files and repacking the tarballs serve ?
We distribute source. The question is, do
On 03/11/2014 11:16 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
Debian have a certain definition of Freedoms [...]
Whose freedom is impaired, and in what way, by the presence of these
useless but ignored files in the tarball ?
In one of my package, I had openssl.dll in the source tarball (it was of
course removed
Your message dated Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:36:00 +0100
with message-id 201403111636.02939.hol...@layer-acht.org
and subject line Re: Bug#741205: general: the GUI freeze regularly, you can not
move the mouse or enter a key
has caused the Debian Bug report #741205,
regarding general: the GUI freeze
Paul Tagliamonte writes (Re: jquery debate with upstream):
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 03:16:14PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
You have conspicuously failed to answer Jonas's question. What
objective does removing these files and repacking the tarballs serve ?
We distribute source. The question
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[not ftpteam]
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 06:09:40PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
I don't think this is a significant breach of the DFSG.
Ah, but you do acknowledge this *is* a breach, even if a small one.
So this comes down to where the line is, like I said.
You may think a line is somewhere, but
On Tue, 11 Mar 2014, Ian Jackson wrote:
Repackaging these tarballs for this reason is utterly pointless.
No-one has been able to explain what the benefit is, to anyone. All we
get when we challenge it is, I'm sad to say, vague and abstract
responses like this one.
The point of repacking the
Thomas Goirand writes (Re: jquery debate with upstream):
In one of my package, I had openssl.dll in the source tarball (it was of
course removed later on).
Would you consider it ok as well to have it in a source package, as long
as it's not used during the build? And what about a windows
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes:
On 11/03/14 10:50, Colin Watson wrote:
Distribution: unstable. Whoops. It is far too easy to make this
mistake with sbuild if you're not quite paying absolutely perfect
attention. My apologies ...
On the Lintian side of things, I attached a patch to
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 06:09:40PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
We should stop this makework and get on with doing something useful.
Thanks for providing me with my 'word of the day' (makework) which seems
to me to embody a growing collection of activities in Debian in modern
times.
--
To
Next time, dput-ng checks for this :)
Cheers,
Paul
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Colin Watson cjwat...@debian.org wrote:
Distribution: unstable. Whoops. It is far too easy to make this
mistake with sbuild if you're not quite paying absolutely perfect
attention. My apologies ...
On 2014-03-11, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 06:09:40PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
I don't think this is a significant breach of the DFSG.
Ah, but you do acknowledge this *is* a breach, even if a small one.
So this comes down to where the line is, like I
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 11.03.2014, 19:02 + schrieb Ian Jackson:
I think that if we want a more convenient and reliable way to avoid
them being used during the build, we should have a way to make
dpkg-source remove the files from the tree as it unpacks the source.
debian/clean is sufficient
Le Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 08:14:24PM +, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 06:09:40PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
We should stop this makework and get on with doing something useful.
Thanks for providing me with my 'word of the day' (makework) which seems
to me to embody a
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:
If I had to disregard the DFSG in some cases, I'd rather see rfc files
in our files than sourceless javascripts.
If they're in the source packages but not installed, I believe this is an
equivalent case, yes. And it would certainly make some packages
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On 03/12/2014 05:16 AM, Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2014-03-11, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 06:09:40PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
I don't think this is a significant breach of the DFSG.
Ah, but you do acknowledge this *is* a breach, even if a small one.
So
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