+++ Kees de Jong [2014-08-12 02:03 +0200]:
Are we really comparing RAM here as if it were the 90's? How many people
here use Android? Today it needs 512 MB to function properly. In two years
that could be 1 or 2 GB and that's a mobile OS. How much RAM does your
browser use?
Too
+++ Anthony F McInerney [2014-08-12 00:02 +0100]:
XFCE:
total used free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:506756 362468 144288 6568 22756 179264
-/+ buffers/cache: 160448 346308
Swap: 392188 0
Le mardi 12 août 2014 à 03:03 +0100, Anthony F McInerney a écrit :
I had stated previously XFCE had started showing memory usage similar
to gnome. This has quite obviously changed. I was wrong, and i'm
posting it as a correction to my statement.
You’re comparing apples and oranges. These
Hello,
2014-08-01 9:37 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org:
We will allow not including arch:all packages in uploads once we have
sorted out how to get them built.
Has it been already discussed? If so, where?
Regards,
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Hi,
On 08/12/2014 12:33, Hector Oron wrote:
2014-08-01 9:37 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org:
We will allow not including arch:all packages in uploads once we have
sorted out how to get them built.
Has it been already discussed? If so, where?
Not the part to actually implement
On 12 August 2014 09:51, Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote:
Could you do MATE too please?
MATE: (with mate-desktop-environment-extras)
free ^[[C total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 506756 397480 109276
7096 58820 166076 -/+ buffers/cache: 172584 334172
Swap: 392188 0 392188
The ctrl
We happen at work to have users with very important needs of 3D
resources, so one of my colleagues conducted some performance tests with
and without a compositor (the compositor being GNOME 3).
It turns out that with a recent adapter, 3D applications are running a
small bit faster under
Le mardi 12 août 2014 à 13:12 +0100, Anthony F McInerney a écrit :
Virtualbox Results (no guest drivers installed)
Glxgears is not a relevant 3D benchmark.
But the funniest thing is that you did this test without any 3D
acceleration, which is not representative at all of most real-world
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:34:23 -0400
Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:53:56PM +0200, wm4 wrote:
To be fair, FFmpeg does its own manual symbol versioning by appending
increasing numbers to function names. But the real problem are not
these functions, but public
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:54:39 +0200
Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Hi,
wm4:
Build something on a newer glibc system, and try to run the binary on
an older system. It most likely won't work - even if it could in
theory. (At least it was this way some years ago. Probably still
I enjoy the way you keep ignoring the relevant points, memory usage and
performance regressions. And the way you benchmarked gnome against gnome.
How about warsaw on xfce on the same hardware or your benchmarks pretty
much show nothing except that your 'slight performance increase when using
Jordi Mallach writes (Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop):
It's been around 9 months since tasksel changed (for real) the default
desktop for new installs. At the time of the change, it was mentioned
the issue would be revisited before the freeze, around debconf time.
Fascinating
Hi,
wm4:
ABI backwards compatibility is not a goal I would want to spend any time
on. Forward compatibility, on the other hand …
Well, I think it's a pretty common complaint from commercial software
vendors. That you can't distribute precompiled binaries reasonably.
They need to compile
Hi,
wm4:
In fact, the API cleanup is an ongoing process, and is what causes the
incompatibilities with each release. For example, a C library should
have a consistent naming schema. FFmpeg/Libav decided to use AV and av_
as prefixes for all symbols in the public header files. This required
Le mardi 12 août 2014 à 14:53 +0200, wm4 a écrit :
gstreamer has more problems than it solves. (Forces glib/gobject on
you, GTK-style OOP, pretty crashy, tons of low-quality plugins,
complicated API and design, ...)
Hummm, I know FUD when I see it…
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: :' :
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:51:40 +0200
Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Hi,
wm4:
In fact, the API cleanup is an ongoing process, and is what causes the
incompatibilities with each release. For example, a C library should
have a consistent naming schema. FFmpeg/Libav decided to
Hi,
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:16:24 -0500
Joe Neal vlvtel...@speakeasy.net wrote:
On both servers and desktops, I've been a Debian user since Sarge. I
use Debian not only because of its strong technical merits, but because
of the strong sense of ethics the project has always had.
A fork
Ian Jackson wrote:
Do you intend to review (or are you reviewing) the decision taken in
July 2012 [1] ? If so, is this discussion here on -devel useful ? If
it is useful, what questions should we be focusing on ?
See my 1st message to this thread.
Can't say I've found most of the thread
On 08/08/14 05:41, Joey Hess wrote:
(Also, perhaps worth noting
that 3.12 is quite a few versions ahead of the gnome currently in
unstable..)
The metapackages in src:meta-gnome3 are still at version 3.8, but the
actual upstream packages making up GNOME 3.12 are nearly all in testing
already.
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:13:17 +0200
Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote:
Well, if you believe in lies, then of course your view of the world
will darken. But i hope that this email clears things up.
If I am spreading falsehoods then I apologize. The ffmpeg/libav split
broke a video sharing
Package: wnpp
Owner: gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: libtest-cleannamespaces-perl
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Upstream Author : Karen Etheridge et...@cpan.org
* URL :
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:51:40 +0200
Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Hi,
Yes, that would be nice. The FFmpeg/Libav split is mostly a
political/social issue though: it seems some (not all) members from
each side just can't deal with some (not all) members from the other
side.
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:26:18PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
See my 1st message to this thread.
Joey,
With respect to your question re HiDPI displays and Xfce, I'm using
Xfce4 from Debian Testing on a Lenovo T540p with 3k screen, and
setting things up was fairly straight forward. I got most of
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:04:32 -0400
compn te...@mi.rr.com wrote:
at least 6+ devels refuse to work with each other , thats only a
quick estimation, i havent polled everyone lately. ffmpeg and libav devs
dont even TALK to each other. theres a couple devs who frequent both
irc/lists, most do
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:44:35 -0500
Joe Neal vlvtel...@speakeasy.net wrote:
When this happened I scoured the net, including mailing lists from both
projects to try and figure out what had happened. The overwhelming
evidence based on mailing list posts, blog posts, forum discussions and
Hi
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 05:13:17PM +0200, Attila Kinali wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:16:24 -0500
Joe Neal vlvtel...@speakeasy.net wrote:
On both servers and desktops, I've been a Debian user since Sarge. I
use Debian not only because of its strong technical merits, but because
El mar, 12 de ago 2014 a las 12:11 , Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu
escribió:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:26:18PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
See my 1st message to this thread.
Joey,
With respect to your question re HiDPI displays and Xfce, I'm using
Xfce4 from Debian Testing on a Lenovo T540p with
Am 12.08.2014 21:11, schrieb Theodore Ts'o:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:26:18PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
See my 1st message to this thread.
Joey,
With respect to your question re HiDPI displays and Xfce, I'm using
Xfce4 from Debian Testing on a Lenovo T540p with 3k screen, and
setting
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:45:37PM +0200, Attila Kinali wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:44:35 -0500
Joe Neal vlvtel...@speakeasy.net wrote:
When this happened I scoured the net, including mailing lists from both
projects to try and figure out what had happened. The overwhelming
evidence
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:33:03PM -0007, Cameron Norman wrote:
With respect to your question re HiDPI displays and Xfce, I'm using
Xfce4 from Debian Testing on a Lenovo T540p with 3k screen, and
setting things up was fairly straight forward. I got most of what I
needed by setting Custom DPI
On 12 August 2014 23:25, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
Scaling fonts alone is not sufficient if you want to properly support
HiDPI displays. You really want all UI elements to be scaling up,
otherwise icons etc get tiny and very hard to hit.
XFCE does not deal with that problem at
❦ 13 août 2014 00:25 +0200, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org :
Joey,
With respect to your question re HiDPI displays and Xfce, I'm using
Xfce4 from Debian Testing on a Lenovo T540p with 3k screen, and
setting things up was fairly straight forward. I got most of what I
needed by setting
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 01:27:38PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
First, w-b has to recognize that arch:all packages need to be built.
And they need to be scheduled on a buildd which builds the arch:all
packages (and only the arch:all packages?).
For the latter I assume sbuild would need an
Am 13.08.2014 01:19, schrieb Vincent Bernat:
❦ 13 août 2014 00:25 +0200, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org :
Scaling fonts alone is not sufficient if you want to properly support
HiDPI displays. You really want all UI elements to be scaling up,
otherwise icons etc get tiny and very hard to hit.
On 09/08/14 04:30, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Hi envite,
Thanks for your input.
Quoting envite (2014-08-09 10:43:25)
XFCE (does not mount my USB disks)
Did you perhaps suppress recommends?
Should this really be a Recommends?
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❦ 13 août 2014 01:44 +0200, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org :
Scaling fonts alone is not sufficient if you want to properly support
HiDPI displays. You really want all UI elements to be scaling up,
otherwise icons etc get tiny and very hard to hit.
XFCE does not deal with that problem at
Am 13.08.2014 01:59, schrieb Vincent Bernat:
❦ 13 août 2014 01:44 +0200, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org :
I can not confirm your findings.
If you increase the DPI settings under XFCE following the instructions
posted by Ted, none of the UI elements besides text are scaled, no
scaled cursor,
Octavio Alvarez alvar...@alvarezp.ods.org writes:
On 09/08/14 04:30, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting envite (2014-08-09 10:43:25)
XFCE (does not mount my USB disks)
Did you perhaps suppress recommends?
Should this really be a Recommends?
Yes.
I have no need for and no desire for automatic
Also ive offered my resignation in the past.
I do still offer to resign from the FFmpeg leader position, if it
resolves this split between FFmpeg and Libav and make everyone work
together again. I never understood why people who once where friends
became mutually so hostile
The big elephant
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Brian May b...@debian.org
* Package name: cryptography
Version : 0.5.3
Upstream Author : Various
* URL : https://cryptography.io/en/latest/
* License : Apache License
Programming Lang: Python
Description :
On 12/08/14 15:44, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
So that's my experience with Xfce and HiDPI displays; at least for
this hacker, it was orders of magnitude less painful than dealing with
GNOME. :-)
I would appreciate if you went into a little detail on what pain you had
with GNOME for comparison
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 01:44:43AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
If you increase the DPI settings under XFCE following the instructions
posted by Ted, none of the UI elements besides text are scaled, no
scaled cursor, no scaled icons, no scaled window decorations, etc.
That's a fair comment.
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:45:37 +0200
Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote:
I think you are confusing a few things. Sam was, as far as i know,
never active in FFmpeg. He was (and i think still is) a big figure
in VLC development.
I was only speaking of him as maintainer of the ffmpeg packages in
El mar, 12 de ago 2014 a las 5:06 , Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org
escribió:
Am 13.08.2014 01:59, schrieb Vincent Bernat:
❦ 13 août 2014 01:44 +0200, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org :
I can not confirm your findings.
If you increase the DPI settings under XFCE following the
instructions
Hi I develop an audio sequencer:
http://ags.sf.net
Now, what values would you recommend as JIFFIEs for the following
threads:
* AgsAudioLoop
* AgsTaskThread
* AgsGuiThread
* AgsDevoutThread
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Hi!
A Debian developer Jonas Smedegard has worked with me to package my
software since I first opened an ITP in April 2012.
Finally we finish to resolve all the outstanding issues after some
months, and I was very happy to see it pushed ready to be uploaded on 17
June.
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