Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Andrey Rahmatullin]

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 11:09:35PM +, Wookey wrote:
> Yeah I think that mess is why I've never felt any need to move away
> from ifconfig. I ran ip something a few times, went 'huh?' at the cryptic
> output and stayed with the rather more civilised /sbin/ifconfig.
> 
> So it seem that the output does actually label things, but the things
> and labels look exactly the same. Would some colons really have hurt
> too much?
> 
> i.e. mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 
> is really
> mtu: 1500  qdisc: mq  state: UP  mode: DEFAULT  group: default  qlen: 1000 
> 
> Anyone think the latter is a tad clearer? I still don't know what a
> qdisc is or a default group, but it's a lot easier to find things I do
> recognise. Before this discussion I just saw it as a mysterious jumble
> of 10 things (after a set of things in CAPITALS that were somewhat
> mysterious too (what's a LOWER_UP, I wonder) - who knows what it might
> mean.

Do you really think that

wlp3s0: flags=4163  mtu 1500
inet 192.168.**  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.**
inet6 fe80::**  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20
ether e4:**:ca  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
RX packets 66323088  bytes 90518262611 (84.3 GiB)
RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
TX packets 18425793  bytes 2920636610 (2.7 GiB)
TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0

is clearer than 

3: wlp3s0:  mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group 
default qlen 1000
link/ether e4:***:ca brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168**/24 brd 192.168.** scope global dynamic wlp3s0
   valid_lft 70216sec preferred_lft 70216sec
inet6 fe80:**/64 scope link 
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

?


To me they are the same. Note that ifconfig too has cryptic uppercase jumble
and cryptic lowercase jumble and doesn't have any separators between field
names and values.

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Allow mirroring new -dbgsym packages?

[Boyuan Yang]

Hello all,

I am wondering if it is possible for a downstream mirror site to mirror files 
in the debian-debug repository. [1] (of course, via rsync not http)
I searched the Internet but could not find any instruction or explanation about 
mirroring that repo.

A quick access to -dbgsym packages may be useful to developers and bug 
reporters of Debian.

[0] https://wiki.debian.org/AutomaticDebugPackages
[1] http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/

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Sincerely,
Boyuan Yang

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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Vincent Bernat]

 ❦ 29 décembre 2016 23:09 GMT, Wookey  :

> I still don't know what a qdisc is or a default group, but it's a lot
> easier to find things I do recognise. Before this discussion I just
> saw it as a mysterious jumble of 10 things (after a set of things in
> CAPITALS that were somewhat mysterious too (what's a LOWER_UP, I
> wonder) - who knows what it might mean.

iproute is developed in lockstep with the kernel (you can use all the
features from the kernel X.Y if you have at least version X.Y) and
exposes all the information the kernel knows about an interface.

LOWER_UP is a flag (like UP, BROADCAST), hence the use of upper case. It
means that the lower interface is up. For a physical interface, it means
the driver says the interface is operatively up (while UP is an
administrative flag). For a virtual interface, like a VLAN, it is the
status of the lower interface.

A qdisc is a "queuing discipline". It is related to QoS and you can
change it with "tc" (another tool from iproute).

Each interface can be assigned a group (a number). This is not much
used. It can be used to make "ip link" operate on a group of
interface. It can be used with Netfilter too (devgroup).
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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Vincent Bernat]

 ❦ 30 décembre 2016 09:47 +1000, Russell Stuart  :

> [0] Now I've started, the Linux kernel's networking stack is a mess.
> From the outside it looks like a mob of warning tribes, each 
> developing with their own way of doing the same thing.  To people 
> not familiar with it this will sound like a hyperbolic claim.  So 
> lets consider one simple task: dropping a packet.
>
> - Did you know the routing table can drop a packet?
>   "ip route add w.x.y.z/c blackhole" and
>   "ip route add w.x.y.z/c prohibit" and
>   "ip route add w.x.y.z/c unreachable" all do that.
>
> - The traffic control engine can "police" packets.  You can "shot"
>   a packet during policing.  (Being Australian, I find this odd,
>   but I'm sure US citizens will be comfortable with it).
>
> - Traffic control engine schedulers can also drop packets, (as well
>   as move them like a bridge, create duplicates and a lot of other
>   things).
>
> - Iptables can drop packets.  This how most people do it.
>
> - The new nftables can drop packets. 
>   
> Not only can they drop packets, each has their own way of figuring
> out what packets to drop.  Which means each must pull apart the
> packet to see it it matches, so the same work is being repeated
> over and over again.

The same work is not repeated over and over again. The kernel keeps the
needed information in a structure to avoid parsing the packet several
times.

When you need to decide how to route the packet, you need to do a route
lookup. If the route entry you find happens to be a blackhole route, you
drop the packet. You didn't do any additional work. The same applies for
all your examples. Those are different subsystems for different
tasks. They all happen to have a way to drop packets but that's not
their sole purpose.

> This has real impacts.  One is this spaghetti you see at the API 
> level is reflected underneath, making for one large, complex, hard 
> to understand and consequently fragile lump of code.  Another is 
> the the BSD networking stack is faster than Linux - sometimes near 
> an order of magnitude faster(!)
>
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article=netperf-bsd-linux

Those benchmarks show huge differences between Linux distributions for a
kernel-related task. Like all phoronix benchmarks, it should not be
trusted.
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Accepted gcc-7 7-20161230-1 (source) into experimental

[Matthias Klose]

ebug symbols)
 libx32lsan0 - LeakSanitizer -- a memory leak detector (x32)
 libx32lsan0-dbg - LeakSanitizer -- a memory leak detector (x32 debug symbols)
 libx32objc-7-dev - Runtime library for GNU Objective-C applications (x32 
development
 libx32objc4 - Runtime library for GNU Objective-C applications (x32)
 libx32objc4-dbg - Runtime library for GNU Objective-C applications (x32 debug 
symbo
 libx32quadmath0 - GCC Quad-Precision Math Library (x32)
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 libx32stdc++6-7-dbg - GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (debugging files)
 libx32ubsan0 - UBSan -- undefined behaviour sanitizer (x32)
 libx32ubsan0-dbg - UBSan -- undefined behaviour sanitizer (x32 debug symbols)
Closes: 844704 846872
Changes:
 gcc-7 (7-20161230-1) experimental; urgency=medium
 .
   * GCC 7 snapshot build, taken from the trunk 20161230.
   * Update gdc to trunk 20161229. Closes: #844704.
   * Build the cilk runtime on armel, armhf, sparc and sparc64.
   * Use --push-state/--pop-state for gold as well when linking libtsan.
   * In GCC ICE dumps, prefix each line with the PID of the driver.
   * Apply proposed patch for PR target/78748.
   * Apply proposed patch for PR libstdc++/64735.
   * Don't mark libphobos multilib packages as M-A: same.
   * Configure libphobos builds with --with-target-system-zlib.
   * Ignore dpkg's pie specs when pie is not enabled. Addresses: #848129.
   * Drop m68k specific ada patches. Closes: #846872.
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Bug#849716: ITP: weresync -- A program to easily clone linux drives incrementally.

[Daniel Manila]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Daniel Manila 

* Package name: weresync
  Version : 0.2
  Upstream Author : Daniel Manila 
* URL : https://github.com/DonyorM/weresync
* License : Apache2
  Programming Lang: Python3 
  Description : A program to easily clone linux drives incrementally.

Using rsync and various partitioning tools, weresync simulates a normal clone 
and creates a drive that is almost exactly the same as the original drive. 
However it is able to do this from a running drive or to a drive smaller than 
the original drive. This is written in Python but makes use of many aspects of 
the Linux ecosystem.

Hopefully, you think this package looks amazing and you want to try it right 
away. However, you may be skeptical about the usefulness of weresync. You may 
be thinking, I can do this exact same thing using gparted or ddrescue. Hear me 
out! There are a few reasons to use weresync over the other tools.

First and foremost, most other cloning tools require confidence in one's 
technical skill. dd will easily destroy your drive, gparted requires knowing 
what flags and partition types to use, and CloneZilla is just about the 
opposite of user friendly. weresync primarily attempts to help people who don't 
want to spend the time and effort to learn how to safely use a cloning tool.

But weresync also has some of its own features. It contains the ability to 
properly copy a partition table to a new drive and format the new drive. It 
uses rsync to copy so, unlike most other cloning tools, it will update 
incrementally – saving time. weresync has good default directory exclusions 
(such as /dev or /proc) so it won't copy parts of your system which should not 
be copied. On top of this weresync will create new UUIDs for the partitions on 
the cloned drive, allowing the clone to be used alongside the original drive. 
But the clone will still be bootable because weresync updates the fstab and 
reinstalls the boot loader. Not to mention it can complete the entire clone 
while leaving the original drive running ("hot cloning"), unlike dd or 
CloneZilla.

All of this is accomplished with one button click.

--

I am the upstream author of this package and I will be maintaining it as I
produce updates on the upstream code. I will need a sponsor to post this package
to Debian.

Accepted gramofile 1.6-11 (source) into unstable

[Joao Eriberto Mota Filho]

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Version: 1.6-11
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian QA Group 
Changed-By: Joao Eriberto Mota Filho 
Description:
 gramofile  - transfer sound from gramophone records to CD
Changes:
 gramofile (1.6-11) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * QA upload.
   * Bumped DH level to 10.
   * debian/control:
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   - Updated the Vcs-* fields to use https instead of http and git.
   * debian/copyright: updated the packaging copyright years.
   * debian/gramofile.docs: renamed to debian/docs.
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[David Steele]

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Maintainer: David Steele 
Changed-By: David Steele 
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[Joao Eriberto Mota Filho]

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Version: 0.7.3-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian QA Group 
Changed-By: Joao Eriberto Mota Filho 
Description:
 flpsed - WYSIWYG pseudo PostScript editor
Changes:
 flpsed (0.7.3-3) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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   * Bumped DH level to 10.
   * debian/control:
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   * debian/copyright: updated the packaging copyright years.
   * debian/patches/:
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[Andrei Zavada]

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Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Andrei Zavada 
Changed-By: Andrei Zavada 
Description:
 cnrun-tools - NeuroML-capable neuronal network simulator (tools)
 libcnrun2  - NeuroML-capable neuronal network simulator (shared lib)
 libcnrun2-dev - NeuroML-capable neuronal network simulator (development files)
 lua-cnrun  - NeuroML-capable neuronal network simulator (Lua package)
Changes:
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 .
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 bump Standards-Version.
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[Joao Eriberto Mota Filho]

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Changed-By: Joao Eriberto Mota Filho 
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   * debian/copyright: updated the packaging copyright years.
   * debian/patches/add-hardening: renamed to 10_add-hardening.patch.
   * debian/upstream/: no longer needed. Removed.
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[陳昌倬]

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Maintainer: Debian Go Packaging Team 

Changed-By: ChangZhuo Chen (陳昌倬) 
Description:
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Changes:
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 .
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[Joao Eriberto Mota Filho]

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Changed-By: Joao Eriberto Mota Filho 
Description:
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   - Reorganized the long description.
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   - Added the standard text for GPL-2+ and GPL-3.
   - Updated all information about the packaging.
   - Updated some information about the upstream rights.
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[Joao Eriberto Mota Filho]

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[Marco d'Itri]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Marco d'Itri 
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Description:
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Closes: 828351 839405
Changes:
 inn2 (2.6.1-1) unstable; urgency=medium
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[Anthony Fok]

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Version: 1.1.4+ds-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: pkg-go 
Changed-By: Anthony Fok 
Description:
 golang-github-stretchr-testify-dev - sacred extension to the standard Go 
testing package
Changes:
 golang-testify (1.1.4+ds-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Revise debian/watch and debian/copyright to facilitate repacking
 of upstream tarballs to remove vendor/ directory.
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Accepted heimdal 7.1.0+dfsg-3 (source amd64 all) into unstable

[Jelmer Vernooij]

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Version: 7.1.0+dfsg-3
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Brian May 
Changed-By: Jelmer Vernooij 
Description:
 heimdal-clients - Heimdal Kerberos - clients
 heimdal-dbg - Heimdal Kerberos - debugging symbols
 heimdal-dev - Heimdal Kerberos - development files
 heimdal-docs - Heimdal Kerberos - documentation
 heimdal-kcm - Heimdal Kerberos - KCM daemon
 heimdal-kdc - Heimdal Kerberos - key distribution center (KDC)
 heimdal-multidev - Heimdal Kerberos - Multi-implementation Development
 heimdal-servers - Heimdal Kerberos - server programs
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 libhdb9-heimdal - Heimdal Kerberos - kadmin server library
 libheimbase1-heimdal - Heimdal Kerberos - Base library
 libheimntlm0-heimdal - Heimdal Kerberos - NTLM support library
 libhx509-5-heimdal - Heimdal Kerberos - X509 support library
 libkadm5clnt7-heimdal - Heimdal Kerberos - kadmin client library
 libkadm5srv8-heimdal - Libraries for Heimdal Kerberos
 libkafs0-heimdal - Heimdal Kerberos - KAFS support library
 libkdc2-heimdal - Heimdal Kerberos - KDC support library
 libkrb5-26-heimdal - Heimdal Kerberos - libraries
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 libroken18-heimdal - Heimdal Kerberos - roken support library
 libsl0-heimdal - Heimdal Kerberos - SL support library
 libwind0-heimdal - Heimdal Kerberos - stringprep implementation
Closes: 806045
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted git 1:2.11.0+next.20161227-1 (source all amd64) into experimental

[Jonathan Nieder]

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Version: 1:2.11.0+next.20161227-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Gerrit Pape 
Changed-By: Jonathan Nieder 
Description:
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 git-all- fast, scalable, distributed revision control system (all subpacka
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 git-core   - fast, scalable, distributed revision control system (obsolete)
 git-cvs- fast, scalable, distributed revision control system (cvs interope
 git-daemon-run - fast, scalable, distributed revision control system 
(git-daemon s
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(git-daemon s
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 git-el - fast, scalable, distributed revision control system (emacs suppor
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 git-gui- fast, scalable, distributed revision control system (GUI)
 git-man- fast, scalable, distributed revision control system (manual pages
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re
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 gitk   - fast, scalable, distributed revision control system (revision tre
 gitweb - fast, scalable, distributed revision control system (web interfac
Closes: 849681
Changes:
 git (1:2.11.0+next.20161227-1) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   * new snapshot, taken from upstream commit c69c2f50.
   * debian/patches/0010-remote-helpers-avoid-blind-fall-back-...diff:
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Accepted coq 8.6-4 (source amd64) into unstable

[Enrico Tassi]

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Version: 8.6-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian OCaml Maintainers 
Changed-By: Enrico Tassi 
Description:
 coq- proof assistant for higher-order logic (toplevel and compiler)
 coq-theories - proof assistant for higher-order logic (theories)
 coqide - proof assistant for higher-order logic (gtk interface)
 libcoq-ocaml - runtime libraries for Coq
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Changes:
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 .
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[Michael Biebl]

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Version: 3.20.4-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian GNOME Maintainers 

Changed-By: Michael Biebl 
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 libgweather-3-6 - GWeather shared library
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Closes: 558572 839365
Changes:
 libgweather (3.20.4-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Jeremy Bicha ]
   * New upstream release (Closes: #839365)
   * debian/control.in: Explicitly Build-Depend on tzdata
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[Anthony Fok]

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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Gabor Gombas]

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 09:01:51PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:

> > OK, you can remove the last half, but keep in mind there are plenty of
> > people who aren't using the exotic features provided by iproute2
> ... like two IPs on one iface.

Actually, that is only a problem if you re-use labels (including empty
ones). If you give distinct labels to all IPs, then ifconfig has no
trouble displaying/manipulating the addresses.

The issue is really at a lower level - ioctl() vs. netlink (*). Anything
which uses the SIOCGIF*/SIOCSIF* ioctl()s will have the same limitations
as ifconfig.  So if you _really_ care about having multiple IPs sharing
the same label, then replacing the ifconfig command with ip is just the
beginning - you'll need to find all applications and libraries which use
the ioctl() interface, and replace/re-write them to use netlink instead.
The problem is, using netlink is more complicated than using ioctl(), so
that may not be a simple task.

If you don't have any legacy applications which would use ioctl()s, then
you're lucky. Otherwise, assigning unique labels to IP addresses could
turn out to be simpler.

Gabor

(*) This is all about IPv4, IPv6 is different

Bug#849703: ITP: ansible-doc -- Documentation for Ansible

[Toni Mueller]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Toni Mueller 

* Package name: ansible-doc
  Version : 2.2.0.0-1
  Upstream Author : RedHat 
* URL : http://www.ansible.com/
* License : GPL-3
  Programming Lang: HTML, JavaScript
  Description : Documentation for Ansible

Currently, the Ansible package in Debian lacks proper offline
documentation. This package aims to supply the documentation in HTML
form offline, so one should not need to go to the aoupstream website to
read it.

Yours truly frequently suffers under bad network conditions, which make
reading the website infeasible or outright impossible, so I think the
package is useful.

I hope I can collaborate with the maintainer of the ansible package to
maintain this package.
 

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Russ Allbery]

Russell Stuart  writes:

> To me this thread looks like a bunch of old men grumbling that the
> young'ins have taken over what they created and turned the tools they
> were comfortable with into something unrecognisable.  It's true - they
> did do that, and it's true it was unnecessary.  They could have just
> extended net-tools.  But this is how the young'ins have behaved for time
> immemorial - when they take over the reins from the previous generation
> and make it their own.  Look on the bright side.  They've given the
> kernel's networking stack a large array of new tools that weren't
> envisaged when net-tools was conceived - like QoS.

That's a fair point.  :)  I'm probably going to force myself to learn ip
and ss and whatnot, since that's the direction of the future and it's not
really that much worse on the output front, and arguable.  I'm not really
complaining about the changes so much as I'm complaining about the changes
that *weren't* made: even better command-line UI, better documentation,
JSON or YAML output format.

Of course, just as with the people who complain about missing features in
Debian, I could always go implement such things if I cared that much about
them.  :)

-- 
Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)   

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Russell Stuart]

On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 11:38 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> It certainly doesn't provide a man page that doesn't start with a BNF
> syntax description.  The iproute2 documentation is awful.
> 
> Also, this is not at all easy to parse:
>
> # ip -o address
> 1: loinet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo\ valid_lft foreverpreferred_lft 
> forever

All true.  In particular the documentation produced by kernel's
networking group is a pet hobby horse of mine.  To paraphrase an old
joke - you can't complain about most of it, because it doesn't exist.
[0]

When it comes to parsing they look equally bad once you have used them
for a while.  Worse from my point of view they are both unnecessarily
difficult to scrape in a script.  The "ip" does have one outstanding
attribute though - it is complete.  ifconfig doesn't list multiple ipv4
address (but does list multiple ipv6 addresses - what's up with that?).
 route can't handle multiple routing tables let alone routing rules. 
The equivalent of "ip tunnel" doesn't exist - and it goes on and on. 
net-tools might still be useful for configuring your laptop - but it's
now useless for any serious networking work.

To me this thread looks like a bunch of old men grumbling that the
young'ins have taken over what they created and turned the tools they
were comfortable with into something unrecognisable.  It's true - they
did do that, and it's true it was unnecessary.  They could have just
extended net-tools.  But this is how the young'ins have behaved for
time immemorial - when they take over the reins from the previous
generation and make it their own.  Look on the bright side.  They've
given the kernel's networking stack a large array of new tools that
weren't envisaged when net-tools was conceived - like QoS.


[0] Now I've started, the Linux kernel's networking stack is a mess.
From the outside it looks like a mob of warning tribes, each 
developing with their own way of doing the same thing.  To people 
not familiar with it this will sound like a hyperbolic claim.  So 
lets consider one simple task: dropping a packet.

- Did you know the routing table can drop a packet?
  "ip route add w.x.y.z/c blackhole" and
  "ip route add w.x.y.z/c prohibit" and
  "ip route add w.x.y.z/c unreachable" all do that.

- The traffic control engine can "police" packets.  You can "shot"
  a packet during policing.  (Being Australian, I find this odd,
  but I'm sure US citizens will be comfortable with it).

- Traffic control engine schedulers can also drop packets, (as well
  as move them like a bridge, create duplicates and a lot of other
  things).

- Iptables can drop packets.  This how most people do it.

- The new nftables can drop packets. 
  
Not only can they drop packets, each has their own way of figuring
out what packets to drop.  Which means each must pull apart the
packet to see it it matches, so the same work is being repeated
over and over again.

This has real impacts.  One is this spaghetti you see at the API 
level is reflected underneath, making for one large, complex, hard 
to understand and consequently fragile lump of code.  Another is 
the the BSD networking stack is faster than Linux - sometimes near 
an order of magnitude faster(!)

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article=netperf-bsd-linux


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Accepted liggghts 3.5.0+repack1-7 (source) into unstable

[Anton Gladky]

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Re: Specification of FTP upload queue management commands

[gregor herrmann]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 06:49:07 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:

> > I always have to use dput-ng in order to be able to use the dcut dm
> > […] command and grant DMs upload permissions.
> 
> There is not ‘dm’ command is not mentioned at the upload queue Read Me
> document .
> 
> As best I can tell, that document is the specification for queue
> manipulation commands. What am I missing?

Not sure if there is a formal spec besides
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/09/msg8.html
(I suppose ftp-masters and -assistants might be more helpful.) 

Cheers,
gregor
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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Wookey]

On 2016-12-29 11:38 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz  writes:
> > On 12/29/2016 07:04 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> 
> Also, this is not at all easy to parse:
> 
> # ip -o address
> 1: loinet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo\   valid_lft forever 
> preferred_lft forever
> 1: loinet6 ::1/128 scope host \   valid_lft forever preferred_lft 
> forever
> 3: wlan0inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic 
> wlan0\   valid_lft 598191sec preferred_lft 598191sec
> 3: wlan0inet6 fe80::a288:69ff:fe31:2b62/64 scope link \   valid_lft 
> forever preferred_lft forever
> 
> The fields aren't labeled,

> And the output (without -o) is less human-readable than the current
> ifconfig output, 

Yeah I think that mess is why I've never felt any need to move away
from ifconfig. I ran ip something a few times, went 'huh?' at the cryptic
output and stayed with the rather more civilised /sbin/ifconfig.

So it seem that the output does actually label things, but the things
and labels look exactly the same. Would some colons really have hurt
too much?

i.e. mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 
is really
mtu: 1500  qdisc: mq  state: UP  mode: DEFAULT  group: default  qlen: 1000 

Anyone think the latter is a tad clearer? I still don't know what a
qdisc is or a default group, but it's a lot easier to find things I do
recognise. Before this discussion I just saw it as a mysterious jumble
of 10 things (after a set of things in CAPITALS that were somewhat
mysterious too (what's a LOWER_UP, I wonder) - who knows what it might
mean.

The choice to use the former rather than the latter is presumably why
people who saw ifconfig's rather more civilised output first have not
shifted in 15 years. Some people are forcefully pointing out in this
thread that ifconfig is _wrong_, but I can't say I've ever noticed
enough to care. It's fine for normal, simple, network config where the
fanciest thing one ever does is create a bridge or mess with the
masquerading/nat tables.

Anyway, this discussion has produced some helpful links (cheers) which
I, and no doubt others, will peruse. (I do at least not have to prefix
ip with /sbin/, which is nice, so it's not all worse).

But I reckon this is a little lesson in UI design and adoption, which
it's worth remembering.

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Accepted tigervnc 1.7.0-2 (source amd64) into unstable

[Ola Lundqvist]

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Closes: 849478
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Re: compression support in kmod

[Christoph Biedl]

Eduard Bloch wrote...

> I volunteer as test subject for that experiment. I would appreciate even
> small steps, considering the current laptop in front of me with average
> magnetic HDD. Over a minute boot time, which is insane and IMHO mostly
> caused by the storm of IO operations required nowadays.

At the risk of damping your expectations - I was surprised if there was
as noticeable improvement. Perhaps on broken (i.e. slow) bootloaders
where a smaller initrd gets loaded faster. Otherwise I'd expect the
reduced I/O doesn't count compared to everything else that happens.

> And seriously, today a kernel with a couple of extra modules takes about
> 200MB. I remember times when you could install a whole desktop
> installation in that space.

200MB? Luxury!

Christoph


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Re: Migration despite an RC bug?

[Christoph Biedl]

Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote...

> Unforunately, the BTS exported a broken/incomplete RC bug list, and britney 
> used
> that and didn't see that some packages had an RC bug, so it allowed them to 
> migrate.

Ouch, that's quite a nightmare. While I'm curious to learn how this
happened and what is done to prevent this from happening again -
please rather focus on restoring the correct state. Installations
running testing already might have got packages they shouldn't see.

Christoph


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Accepted whois 5.2.14 (source i386) into unstable

[Marco d'Itri]

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Maintainer: Marco d'Itri 
Changed-By: Marco d'Itri 
Description:
 whois  - intelligent WHOIS client
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[Chow Loong Jin]

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[Anton Gladky]

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[Andreas Tille]

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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Bjørn Mork]

Russ Allbery  writes:
> Christian Seiler  writes:
>> On 12/29/2016 08:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> ip address also has one of the worst output UI decisions I've ever seen,
>>> namely this line:
>>> 
>>> inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic wlan0
>>> 
>>> specifically "192.168.0.195/24", which is notation (IIRC) invented by this
>>> command,
>
>> Nope, that's RFC 4632, Section 3.1, where that was introduced
>> first, see
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4632#section-3.1
>
> No, I'm not talking about CIDR notation, which of course is long-standing
> and familiar.  I'm talking about randomly appending a CIDR suffix to
> something that is obviously *not* the base for that CIDR block.
>
> In other words, 192.168.0.0/24 is fine.  The problem is with deciding to
> merge two completely different things (a CIDR network specification, and
> an individual IP address) in this weird hybrid notation that, by RFC 4632,
> would mean the network starting at 192.168.0.195 and extending for a /24.
> Which is a nonsensical specification.

I believe that is a mis-interpretation of that RFC.  The examples are
all network addresses, but I don't think there is anything there that
restricts the CIDR notation only to that class of IPv4 addresses.

FWIW, the notation is much older and has been used for IPv4 address +
mask long before that RFC or the introduction of the "ip" tool.  I am
unable to find the original first use, but here's at least one older
reference (from 1998):
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2373#section-2.3

  "The text representation of IPv6 address prefixes is similar to the
   way IPv4 addresses prefixes are written in CIDR notation.  An IPv6
   address prefix is represented by the notation:

  ipv6-address/prefix-length
  "


The IPv4 CIDR notation was obviously already well enough known to be
used to explain the new IPv6 notation. I believe the above paragraph
would be very confusing, to the point of not making sense at all, if the
IPv4 notation was known to be used only for network address +
prefix-length.


> IIRC, this was done in ip to "save space" instead of using the natural
> expression, namely:
>
> 192.168.0.195 net 192.168.0.0/24


"save space" by removing redundant information was pretty much the only
reason to introduce the prefix-length, wasn't it?  Well, maybe not... It
also prevents anyone from trying to configure a netmask with holes in
it.

But if you always had to include the redundant network address, then you
wouldn't save any space.  What would the point of the CIDR notation be
then?  You might as well use one of the mask notations:
 
 192.168.0.195 0.0.0.255
 192.168.0.195 255.255.255.0

They are just as short (and commonly used, just like 192.168.0.195/24 is)

> Saving space in UI output intended for humans by introducing new notation
> is almost never a good idea.

True.  But in this case it makes the result easier to read by removing
duplicate information.  That is good.


Bjørn

Accepted rustc 1.14.0+dfsg1-2 (source) into unstable

[Ximin Luo]

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Maintainer: Rust Maintainers 
Changed-By: Ximin Luo 
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 rustc (1.14.0+dfsg1-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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[Robert Edmonds]

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Robert Edmonds 
Changed-By: Robert Edmonds 
Description:
 libck-dev  - Concurrency Kit - development files
 libck0 - Concurrency Kit - shared libraries
Closes: 764827
Changes:
 ck (0.5.2-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * debian/control: Only build on architectures supported by upstream
   * debian/rules: Limit tests to 2 cores (Closes: #764827)
   * debian/gbp.conf: New (enable pristine-tar, pristine-tar-commit)
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[Nick Andrik]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Nick Andrik 
Changed-By: Nick Andrik 
Description:
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Closes: 741113 777104
Changes:
 spectools (201601r1-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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   * General maintenance
 - Adopt package (Closes: #777104)
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 - Update Vcs-Git and Vcs-Browser URLs
 - Enable hardening flags
   * Upstream source tarball
 - Extend URL in debian/watch to support new upstream location
 - Add upstream/signing-key.asc for checking gpg signature
   * Add debian/patches:
 - fix_typos: Fix spelling errors
 - gcc5_fix: Enable support for GCC 5 builds
 - clang_fix: Enable support for clang builds (Closes: #741113)
   Thanks to Nicolas Sévelin-Radiguet for the initial patch
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[Simon McVittie]

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 ikiwiki- wiki compiler
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 ikiwiki (3.20161229.1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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   * git: Do not disable the commit hook while preparing a revert.
 .
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 .
   * Security: force CGI::FormBuilder->field to scalar context where
 necessary, avoiding unintended function argument injection
 analogous to CVE-2014-1572. In ikiwiki this could be used to
 forge commit metadata, but thankfully nothing more serious.
 (CVE-2016-9646)
   * Security: try revert operations in a temporary working tree before
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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Russ Allbery]

Bjørn Mork  writes:

> I believe that is a mis-interpretation of that RFC.  The examples are
> all network addresses, but I don't think there is anything there that
> restricts the CIDR notation only to that class of IPv4 addresses.

> FWIW, the notation is much older and has been used for IPv4 address +
> mask long before that RFC or the introduction of the "ip" tool.  I am
> unable to find the original first use, but here's at least one older
> reference (from 1998):
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2373#section-2.3

>   "The text representation of IPv6 address prefixes is similar to the
>way IPv4 addresses prefixes are written in CIDR notation.  An IPv6
>address prefix is represented by the notation:

>   ipv6-address/prefix-length
>   "

> The IPv4 CIDR notation was obviously already well enough known to be
> used to explain the new IPv6 notation. I believe the above paragraph
> would be very confusing, to the point of not making sense at all, if the
> IPv4 notation was known to be used only for network address +
> prefix-length.

Yeah, I'm clearly incorrect about this, and I apologize for the noise (and
appreciate all the good information).  I'm also now remembering, to my
embarassment, that I'd already ranted about and been corrected on this
before and then didn't retain that.  I suppose that shows how little I
deal with the ip tool.  (I probably should alias ifconfig to something
that reminds me to use ip to force myself to do the mental conversion.)

I apparently haven't gotten over my initial confusion when I ran into it
for the first time, but that isn't a good idea not to use the notation,
and I do see the merits.  Hopefully this time I'll remember and learn and
not forget the whole conversation again!

-- 
Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)   

Accepted mediaconch 16.11-1 (source amd64) into unstable

[Chow Loong Jin]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Chow Loong Jin 
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Description:
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[Tony Maillefaud]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Tony Maillefaud 
Changed-By: Tony Maillefaud 
Description:
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 cowsay-off - configurable talking cow (offensive cows)
Closes: 367347 592917 842801
Changes:
 cowsay (3.03+dfsg2-1) unstable; urgency=medium
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- unclear licensing (closes: #367347, #592917)
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Description:
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[Bernd Zeimetz]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team 

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Description:
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 python3-icu-dbg - Python 3 extension wrapping the ICU C++ API (debug extension)
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   [ Ondřej Nový ]
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[Didier Raboud]

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Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers 

Changed-By: Anthony Fok 
Description:
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Closes: 521932
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[Bernd Zeimetz]

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Python Modules Team 

Changed-By: Bernd Zeimetz 
Description:
 libapache2-mod-wsgi - Python WSGI adapter module for Apache
 libapache2-mod-wsgi-py3 - Python 3 WSGI adapter module for Apache
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[Anthony Fok]

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 .
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 is not absolutely necessary for Frescobaldi to run, but moreover,
 to get Frescobaldi into Debian "stretch" (testing), i.e. the upcoming
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[Simon McVittie]

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 .
   * Security: force CGI::FormBuilder->field to scalar context where
 necessary, avoiding unintended function argument injection
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 (CVE-2016-9646)
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 a revert writing outside the wiki srcdir or altering a file that the
 reverting user should not be able to alter, an authorization bypass.
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[Jakob Haufe]

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Description:
 glabels- label, business card and media cover creation program for GNOME
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Closes: 830033
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 .
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   * Drop now unneeded hardening-no-fortify-functions override
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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Russ Allbery]

Tollef Fog Heen  writes:
> ]] Russ Allbery 

>> It's possible that some other tool has abused CIDR notation in this way,
>> but ip is still the only place I ever see it.  It's definitely not common.

> I picked a few arbitrary networking platforms:

Meh.  Okay, thanks, I'm apparently just not well-informed about this and
will have to get over it.

-- 
Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)   

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Peter Samuelson]

[Russ Allbery]
> ip address also has one of the worst output UI decisions I've ever seen,
> namely this line:
> 
> inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic wlan0
> 
> specifically "192.168.0.195/24", which is notation (IIRC) invented by this
> command, used nowhere else in networking, and confusing to anyone who has
> prior networking experience.

Huh ... I have exactly the opposite reaction.  To me, this notation is
_far_ more readable than dotted quads, e.g., I know exactly what a /27
is, but it takes awhile to work out 255.255.255.224.  I don't think
this notation originated in iproute2, I've seen it in lots of other
contexts.

(Yes, it's a bit annoying to parse this, as you have to split on /
after splitting on whitespace, but to me that's a small price to pay.)

In fact in my interfaces(5) files I always use 'address a.b.c.d/nn' and
no 'subnet' line.  So tidy.  (ifupdown added this feature in wheezy.)

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Tollef Fog Heen]

]] Russ Allbery 

> It's possible that some other tool has abused CIDR notation in this way,
> but ip is still the only place I ever see it.  It's definitely not common.

I picked a few arbitrary networking platforms:

From
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos-es/junos-es93/junos-es-jseries-quick-start/basic-connection-and-configuration-with-the-cli.html:

root# set interfaces ge-0/0/0 unit 0 family inet address 1.1.2.31/24

>From http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Address :

[admin@MikroTik] ip address> add address=10.10.10.1/24 interface=ether2

From
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11225681/interface-configuration-in-arista-eos
 :

localhost(config-if-Eth1)# ip address 172.16.204.4/24

(Arista's configuration manual is a PDF, hence linking to a random
stackoverflow description.)

From
http://dev-random.net/d-link-dgs-3324sr-management-ip-address-configuration/ :

config ipif System ipaddress 192.168.2.2/24

Cisco does it differently, and I'm sure some others do too, but the
$ip/prefixlen notation is pretty common in the networking world at
least.

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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Vincent Bernat]

 ❦ 29 décembre 2016 12:24 -0800, Russ Allbery  :

> No, I'm not talking about CIDR notation, which of course is long-standing
> and familiar.  I'm talking about randomly appending a CIDR suffix to
> something that is obviously *not* the base for that CIDR block.
>
> In other words, 192.168.0.0/24 is fine.  The problem is with deciding to
> merge two completely different things (a CIDR network specification, and
> an individual IP address) in this weird hybrid notation that, by RFC 4632,
> would mean the network starting at 192.168.0.195 and extending for a /24.
> Which is a nonsensical specification.
>
> IIRC, this was done in ip to "save space" instead of using the natural
> expression, namely:
>
> 192.168.0.195 net 192.168.0.0/24
>
> Saving space in UI output intended for humans by introducing new notation
> is almost never a good idea.
>
> It's possible that some other tool has abused CIDR notation in this way,
> but ip is still the only place I ever see it.  It's definitely not common.

It's quite common. For example, on JunOS, this is also how IP addresses
are expressed. This is quite like "192.168.0.195 netmask 255.255.255.0",
except this is "192.168.0.195 prefixlen 24" which then can be
abbrieviated to "192.168.0.195/24". You know this is not a prefix
because the prefix is "192.168.0.0/24" (and the prefix length is less
than 31).

This is also how it works with IPv6 (even on Cisco).
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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Samuel Thibault]

Russ Allbery, on Thu 29 Dec 2016 12:24:28 -0800, wrote:
> >> specifically "192.168.0.195/24", which is notation (IIRC) invented by this
> >> command,
> 
> It's possible that some other tool has abused CIDR notation in this way,
> but ip is still the only place I ever see it.  It's definitely not common.

/etc/network/interfaces uses it too.

Samuel

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Russ Allbery]

Christian Seiler  writes:
> On 12/29/2016 08:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:

>> ip address also has one of the worst output UI decisions I've ever seen,
>> namely this line:
>> 
>> inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic wlan0
>> 
>> specifically "192.168.0.195/24", which is notation (IIRC) invented by this
>> command,

> Nope, that's RFC 4632, Section 3.1, where that was introduced
> first, see
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4632#section-3.1

No, I'm not talking about CIDR notation, which of course is long-standing
and familiar.  I'm talking about randomly appending a CIDR suffix to
something that is obviously *not* the base for that CIDR block.

In other words, 192.168.0.0/24 is fine.  The problem is with deciding to
merge two completely different things (a CIDR network specification, and
an individual IP address) in this weird hybrid notation that, by RFC 4632,
would mean the network starting at 192.168.0.195 and extending for a /24.
Which is a nonsensical specification.

IIRC, this was done in ip to "save space" instead of using the natural
expression, namely:

192.168.0.195 net 192.168.0.0/24

Saving space in UI output intended for humans by introducing new notation
is almost never a good idea.

It's possible that some other tool has abused CIDR notation in this way,
but ip is still the only place I ever see it.  It's definitely not common.

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Specification of FTP upload queue management commands

[Ben Finney]

Afif Elghraoui  writes:

> Hi, Ben,

Thanks for the feedback. One specific suggestion appears to already have
a bug report; I'm redirecting this sub-thread there.

> على الثلاثاء 27 كانون الأول 2016 ‫20:31، كتب Ben Finney:
> > The ‘dput-ng’ package is one alternative that is sometimes suggested
> > when people hit the limits in ‘dput’. I am not a user of ‘dput-ng’
> > or other alternatives, so am also seeking feedback from people who
> > have informed positions on choosing one over the other.
>
> I always have to use dput-ng in order to be able to use the dcut dm
> […] command and grant DMs upload permissions.

There is not ‘dm’ command is not mentioned at the upload queue Read Me
document .

As best I can tell, that document is the specification for queue
manipulation commands. What am I missing?

> So as far as I'm concerned, if the dput package had a dcut that supports
> the dm subcommand, I'd be very happy.

Where is the canonical specification of the commands accepted by ‘dak’?

Should ‘dcut’ support only one of those specifications, or should it be
attempting to support the ‘…/UploadQueue/README’ commands as well?

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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Christian Seiler]

On 12/29/2016 08:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> It certainly doesn't provide a man page that doesn't start with a BNF
> syntax description.  The iproute2 documentation is awful.

Ack.

> Also, this is not at all easy to parse:
> 
> # ip -o address
> 1: loinet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo\   valid_lft forever 
> preferred_lft forever
> 1: loinet6 ::1/128 scope host \   valid_lft forever preferred_lft 
> forever
> 3: wlan0inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic 
> wlan0\   valid_lft 598191sec preferred_lft 598191sec
> 3: wlan0inet6 fe80::a288:69ff:fe31:2b62/64 scope link \   valid_lft 
> forever preferred_lft forever
> 
> The fields aren't labeled, you have to make a bunch of assumptions about
> ordering, the backslash thing is just completely bizarre and makes the
> parsing way harder (see the "lo\" on the first line)... this is really
> rather dire.

Ack.

> And the output (without -o) is less human-readable than the current
> ifconfig output, although neither of them are going to win any awards.
> ifconfig at least understands how to use whitespace to try to present
> data, which ip definitely does not, but both have a lot of cryptic
> abbreviations and provide a lot of uninteresting noise in the default
> output format that's only useful in unusual situations.

I personally hate both outputs as well, but vastly prefer ip over
the traditional ifconfig output. (The new ifconfig appears to have
gotten better, after just trying it for the first time.)

> ip address also has one of the worst output UI decisions I've ever seen,
> namely this line:
> 
> inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic wlan0
> 
> specifically "192.168.0.195/24", which is notation (IIRC) invented by this
> command,

Nope, that's RFC 4632, Section 3.1, where that was introduced
first, see
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4632#section-3.1

And at least I find it vastly superior to the traditional netmask
notation - if I see /29 I can immediately deduce that there are
three bits available for the host part, so with broadcast address
subtracted that gives me 6 hosts in that range. The corresponding
netmask is 255.255.255.248 - that is far harder to process
mentally for me. Add in IPv6 and there's a reason why traditional
netmasks have never been used there.

That said: to me it would have been much more logical to count
the bits that are zero in the netmask (as that defines the size
of the network directly) than the bits that are one, so I believe
there was room for improvement when that syntax was introduced.
Unfortunately that ship has now sailed...

Regards,
Christian

Re: dput: Call for feedback: What should change? What should stay the same? [and 1 more messages]

[Ben Finney]

"Paul R. Tagliamonte"  writes:

> FWIW, I don't think any of the dput-ng hackers particularly mind if it
> changes, changing API could just happen for both together, at the same
> time. Or maybe just consolidate :)

Much appreciated. Yes, one aspiration I eventually hope to achieve have
is to resolve the fork by merging the desirable features of both back
into ‘dput’, and discarding behaviour that we decide is no longer
helpful.

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Re: dput: Call for feedback: What should change? What should stay the same?

[Ben Finney]

Russ Allbery  writes:

> I have never managed to work out how to use dcut […] in fewer than
> five tries each time I've needed to use it. I'm not sure what it is
> with that command, but I find it completely baffling to use correctly.

This should be addressed by, at least, improving the ‘dcut(1)’ manual
page so that it properly describes how to use the existing interface.
I have reported bug#849687 for this.

A broader discussion can be had on changing the ‘dcut’ interface; I
leave that as an exercise for the future. Suggestions are welcome
though.

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Accepted tigervnc 1.7.0-1 (source amd64) into unstable

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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Sandro Tosi]

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Russ Allbery  wrote:
> Also, this is not at all easy to parse:
>
> # ip -o address
> 1: loinet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo\   valid_lft forever 
> preferred_lft forever
> 1: loinet6 ::1/128 scope host \   valid_lft forever preferred_lft 
> forever
> 3: wlan0inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic 
> wlan0\   valid_lft 598191sec preferred_lft 598191sec
> 3: wlan0inet6 fe80::a288:69ff:fe31:2b62/64 scope link \   valid_lft 
> forever preferred_lft forever
>
> The fields aren't labeled, you have to make a bunch of assumptions about
> ordering, the backslash thing is just completely bizarre and makes the
> parsing way harder (see the "lo\" on the first line)... this is really
> rather dire.

i recently had to parse it (in particular, `ip -s -s -s -s -o link
show up`) it's not that hard: split by \, remove the first line,
remove any spurious other lines, then parse by line pairs: the first
is the headers, the second the values, and so on (kinda OT but yeah a
YAML/JSON/anything would have been better, but it's doable)

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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Russ Allbery]

Bernd Zeimetz  writes:
> On 12/29/2016 07:04 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:

>> For stretch+1, what I'd like to see is a tool that a) works b) has
>> output that's nice for a human to read and c) has output that can be
>> easily processed by programs. None of the current tools comes anywhere
>> near. Bonus points if the command line syntax is reasonbly nice, and
>> the manpage doesn't start with a BNF syntax description.

> In my opinion ip provides all the things you are mentioning - what are
> you missing? with -o as option the output is rather easy to parse.

It certainly doesn't provide a man page that doesn't start with a BNF
syntax description.  The iproute2 documentation is awful.

Also, this is not at all easy to parse:

# ip -o address
1: loinet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo\   valid_lft forever preferred_lft 
forever
1: loinet6 ::1/128 scope host \   valid_lft forever preferred_lft 
forever
3: wlan0inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic wlan0\ 
  valid_lft 598191sec preferred_lft 598191sec
3: wlan0inet6 fe80::a288:69ff:fe31:2b62/64 scope link \   valid_lft 
forever preferred_lft forever

The fields aren't labeled, you have to make a bunch of assumptions about
ordering, the backslash thing is just completely bizarre and makes the
parsing way harder (see the "lo\" on the first line)... this is really
rather dire.

And the output (without -o) is less human-readable than the current
ifconfig output, although neither of them are going to win any awards.
ifconfig at least understands how to use whitespace to try to present
data, which ip definitely does not, but both have a lot of cryptic
abbreviations and provide a lot of uninteresting noise in the default
output format that's only useful in unusual situations.

ip address also has one of the worst output UI decisions I've ever seen,
namely this line:

inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic wlan0

specifically "192.168.0.195/24", which is notation (IIRC) invented by this
command, used nowhere else in networking, and confusing to anyone who has
prior networking experience.

This is all probably a matter of opinion, but Lars is definitely not alone
in considering all this stuff to be quite bad.

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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Lars Wirzenius]

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 08:17:01PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> In my opinion ip provides all the things you are mentioning - what are
> you missing? with -o as option the output is rather easy to parse.

I find ip's output hard to read. I have to take time to visually parse
it every time, I can't just skim it. The ip -o output seems parseable,
but no easily extensible (I'd prefer something like YAML instead).

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Accepted wims 1:4.13c~dfsg1-1 (source amd64 all) into unstable

[Georges Khaznadar]

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Maintainer: Georges Khaznadar 
Changed-By: Georges Khaznadar 
Description:
 flydraw- command-line drawing tool
 wims   - server for educational content: courses, exercises, and exams
 wims-java-applets - applets for modules used by WIMS
 wims-modules - minimal set of modules used by WIMS
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 a few lines in the Makefile to deal with this archive. Added a mention
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Maintainer: Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers 

Changed-By: Christian Hofstaedtler 
Description:
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Changes:
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 .
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   [ Cédric Boutillier ]
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Description:
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Maintainer: Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers 

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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Bernd Zeimetz]

On 12/29/2016 07:04 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> For stretch+1, what I'd like to see is a tool that a) works b) has
> output that's nice for a human to read and c) has output that can be
> easily processed by programs. None of the current tools comes anywhere
> near. Bonus points if the command line syntax is reasonbly nice, and
> the manpage doesn't start with a BNF syntax description.

In my opinion ip provides all the things you are mentioning - what are
you missing? with -o as option the output is rather easy to parse.

-- 
 Bernd ZeimetzDebian GNU/Linux Developer
 http://bzed.dehttp://www.debian.org
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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Lars Wirzenius]

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:30:26AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> OK, you can remove the last half, but keep in mind there are plenty of
> people who aren't using the exotic features provided by iproute2, and
> are very happy using the more convenient and shorter BSD-style
> commands.  If you're going to remove it _becase_, the least you can do
> is to make the transition a bit more gentle.

For stretch+1, what I'd like to see is a tool that a) works b) has
output that's nice for a human to read and c) has output that can be
easily processed by programs. None of the current tools comes anywhere
near. Bonus points if the command line syntax is reasonbly nice, and
the manpage doesn't start with a BNF syntax description.

Of, you know, I can continue to mostly ignore things since I'm in the
vast majority that doesn't do or need complicated network setups.

-- 
I want to build worthwhile things that might last. --joeyh


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[Jaime Robles]

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Re: Migration despite an RC bug?

[Ole Streicher]

Emilio Pozuelo Monfort  writes:
> On 29/12/16 17:24, Ole Streicher wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> the python-numpy package in unstable has an RC bug:
>> 
>> https://bugs.debian.org/849196
>> 
>> however, today it migrated to testing, the migration status still says
>> however "valid candidate".
>> 
>> I thought that RC bugs would prevent packages from migration -- what is
>> the exception here?
>
> Unforunately, the BTS exported a broken/incomplete RC bug list, and britney 
> used
> that and didn't see that some packages had an RC bug, so it allowed
> them to migrate.

Is there a way to get the old version back? At least, I am quite unhappy
with a buggy release candidate in testing.

Best regards

Ole

Accepted obnam 1.21-1 (source) into unstable

[Lars Wirzenius]

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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Science Team 

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Accepted libtext-asciitable-perl 0.22-1 (source) into unstable

[Salvatore Bonaccorso]

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Re: Migration despite an RC bug?

[Emilio Pozuelo Monfort]

On 29/12/16 17:24, Ole Streicher wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> the python-numpy package in unstable has an RC bug:
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/849196
> 
> however, today it migrated to testing, the migration status still says
> however "valid candidate".
> 
> I thought that RC bugs would prevent packages from migration -- what is
> the exception here?

Unforunately, the BTS exported a broken/incomplete RC bug list, and britney used
that and didn't see that some packages had an RC bug, so it allowed them to 
migrate.

Cheers,
Emilio

Migration despite an RC bug?

[Ole Streicher]

Hi,

the python-numpy package in unstable has an RC bug:

https://bugs.debian.org/849196

however, today it migrated to testing, the migration status still says
however "valid candidate".

I thought that RC bugs would prevent packages from migration -- what is
the exception here?

Best regards

Ole

Accepted libtext-asciitable-perl 0.21-1 (source) into unstable

[Salvatore Bonaccorso]

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Description: 
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 .
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   * debian/control: Use HTTPS transport protocol for Vcs-Git URI
 .
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 .
   [ Salvatore Bonaccorso ]
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Support from Latin America to DebConf18 in Brazil

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Hola a todos,

First of all, I'm sorry to write in english but I can't speak spanish very well.
I'm Paulo Santana from Brazil.

We are applying to have DebConf18 in Curitiba (Paraná state - Brazil) and we 
are writing a BID.
It would be vey important to us to receive the support from Debian community 
Latin American to have DebConf in our continent again. The last DebConf in 
South America was in Argentina in 2008 (http://debconf8.debconf.org).

The other BID is from Hsinchu (Taiwan), I little far from us :-)

You can declare your support inserting your name/country at Curitiba BID below, 
or sending your name/country to me (and I will insert on the BID):
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18/Bids/Curitiba#DDs_from_others_countries

You don't need to worry about get involve with some work now. Just insert your 
name will be great for us.

If you are not from Latin America but you want to declare your support to 
Brazil, we will be very happy too.

The decision will happen in february, so It's better insert your name on the 
next days.

We hope can have you here in 2018 :-)

Gracias!

-- 
Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
Curitiba - Brasil
Curador de Software Livre da Campus Party Brasil 2017 (CPBR10)
Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
Fone: +55 (41) 99198-1897
Site: http://www.phls.com.br
GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450

MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 - 17 a 19 de março
http://br2017.mini.debconf.org

Apoie a campanha pela igualdade de gênero #HeForShe (#ElesPorElas)  
http://www.heforshe.org/pt

Accepted haskell-doctest 0.11.0-4 (source) into unstable

[Clint Adams]

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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Andrey Rahmatullin]

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:30:26AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
>Ifconfig has been deprecated; you should probably use "ip a show
>dev lo" instad of the shorter and more convenient "ifconfig lo"
... and often wrong

> OK, you can remove the last half, but keep in mind there are plenty of
> people who aren't using the exotic features provided by iproute2
... like two IPs on one iface.

-- 
WBR, wRAR


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Accepted parallax 1.0.1-2 (source) into unstable

[Valentin Vidic]

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Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

[Theodore Ts'o]

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 01:38:48PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote:
> I don't know whether "crap" is the right word, but it is certainly
> baggage from a bygone era.  "Baggage" here means that if we are nice to
> our users (ie, Debian sysadmins), we should not force them to know two
> tools.  We only have one complete tool set available: iproute2.  This means 
> at the very least ifconfg can not appear in any conffile, nor can it really 
> appear in documented shell scripts like dhclient-script.

This is really going to be a generational thing.  For those of us who
started programming in the BSD 4.x days (my first kernel programming
experience was with BSD 4.3), ifconfig and netstat are still the tools
that I use every day, and I only use the iproute2 tools in the
*extremely* rare circumstances that I need to do something exotic
which is only supported by the iproute2 tools.

This probably makes me a bad person, but it's how I operate, because I
grew up using the ifconfig and netstat.  From my perspective, it's the
height of arrogance to decide that we're being "kind" to Debian system
administrators by forcibly taking away the traditional BSD tools, and
forcing them to learn a new interface, just because we think it's the
right and moral choice for system administrators.

If you want to deprecate ifconfig and netstat, the kindest way to do
that is to (a) remove all of the progammatic dependencies on ifconfig
and netstat output, (b) add hints to ifconfig and netstat which look
at how they were invoked and adds a one-line hint:

   Ifconfig has been deprecated; you should probably use "ip a show
   dev lo" instad of the shorter and more convenient "ifconfig lo"
   because debian is going to arrogantly make "ifconfig" go away in
   the next stable release, because we believe this is in your best
   interests, and Debian always has the priorities of our users at heart.

OK, you can remove the last half, but keep in mind there are plenty of
people who aren't using the exotic features provided by iproute2, and
are very happy using the more convenient and shorter BSD-style
commands.  If you're going to remove it _becase_, the least you can do
is to make the transition a bit more gentle.

Regards,

- Ted

Accepted ginga 2.6.1-1 (source) into unstable

[Ole Streicher]

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Accepted accountsservice 0.6.43-1 (source) into unstable

[Emilio Pozuelo Monfort]

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Maintainer: Debian freedesktop.org maintainers 

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 libaccountsservice-dev - query and manipulate user account information - 
header files
 libaccountsservice-doc - query and manipulate user account information - 
documentation
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libraries
Closes: 841672 842851
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 accountsservice (0.6.43-1) unstable; urgency=medium
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accountsservice_0.6.43-1.debian.tar.xz

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