Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, On 30/06/2019 06:53, Alf Gaida wrote: >>> It will confuse me because in 2021 I will expect release 2021 . >>> Furthermore, will .7 stand for July ? >> I assume it's about point releases (which, again, Ubuntu doesn't do >> AFAIK). >> > The keyword will be education - i wrote some times ago:

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Moshe Piekarski
Another issue is that with a sequential scheme I always know what the next version is whereas if a year based scheme is used without a set schedule the version after 19 may be anything from 19 to 25. Sincerely, Moshe Piekarski -- There's no such thing as a stupid question, But there are

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Alf Gaida
It will confuse me because in 2021 I will expect release 2021 . Furthermore, will .7 stand for July ? I assume it's about point releases (which, again, Ubuntu doesn't do AFAIK). The keyword will be education - i wrote some times ago: Let people use wht they are happy with - it will take a blog

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 8:16 PM Tomas Pospisek wrote: > Let's seriously consider using year based release identifiers. At this point in the thread it is very clear that which identifier one prefers is very individual and dependent on use-cases. So we should add support for more individuals and

Accepted iptables-netflow 2.4-1 (source amd64 all) into experimental

2019-06-29 Thread Axel Beckert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 00:01:56 +0200 Source: iptables-netflow Binary: iptables-netflow-dkms iptables-netflow-dkms-dbgsym irqtop Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 2.4-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Axel

Accepted survex 1.2.39-2 (source) into experimental

2019-06-29 Thread Olly Betts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 09:33:57 +1200 Source: survex Architecture: source Version: 1.2.39-2 Distribution: experimental Urgency: medium Maintainer: Olly Betts Changed-By: Olly Betts Changes: survex (1.2.39-2) experimental;

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 6/29/19 3:33 PM, Tomas Pospisek wrote: > Am 29.06.19 um 15:28 schrieb Andrey Rahmatullin: >> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 01:53:35PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote: >>> TLDR; year based release identifiers should be prefered since they are >>> much more intuitive to reason about than codenames and

Accepted patch 2.7.6-4 (source) into unstable

2019-06-29 Thread GCS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 20:00:12 + Source: patch Architecture: source Version: 2.7.6-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) Changed-By: Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) Closes: 890746 Changes: patch

Accepted qtwebengine-opensource-src 5.12.4+dfsg-1 (source) into experimental

2019-06-29 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 20:48:15 +0300 Source: qtwebengine-opensource-src Binary: qtwebengine5-dev qtwebengine5-private-dev libqt5webengine5 libqt5webenginecore5 libqt5webenginewidgets5 libqt5webengine-data qml-module-qtwebengine

Accepted jdupes 1.13.1-1 (source) into experimental

2019-06-29 Thread Joao Eriberto Mota Filho
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 08:15:44 -0300 Source: jdupes Architecture: source Version: 1.13.1-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: medium Maintainer: Joao Eriberto Mota Filho Changed-By: Joao Eriberto Mota Filho Changes: jdupes

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Boyuan Yang
在 2019-06-29六的 20:21 +0500,Andrey Rahmatullin写道: > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 06:17:12PM +0400, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > > > > As others here I am starting to get confused by the release code > > > > > names, as are my peers that are not that much into Debian. And > > > > > sequential release numbers

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 06:17:12PM +0400, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > >>> As others here I am starting to get confused by the release code > >>> names, as are my peers that are not that much into Debian. And > >>> sequential release numbers are devoid of any semantics except for > >>> their

Accepted qtquickcontrols-opensource-src 5.12.4-1 (source) into experimental

2019-06-29 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 16:54:45 +0300 Source: qtquickcontrols-opensource-src Architecture: source Version: 5.12.4-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers Changed-By: Dmitry Shachnev Changes:

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 29/06/2019 17:27, Tomas Pospisek wrote: > Am 29.06.19 um 14:41 schrieb Jeremy Stanley: >> On 2019-06-29 13:53:35 +0200 (+0200), Tomas Pospisek wrote: >> [...] >>> As others here I am starting to get confused by the release code >>> names, as are my peers that are not that much into Debian.

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Tomas Pospisek
Am 29.06.19 um 15:28 schrieb Andrey Rahmatullin: > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 01:53:35PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote: >> TLDR; year based release identifiers should be prefered since they are >> much more intuitive to reason about than codenames and sequentialy >> numbered release identifiers. >> >>

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 01:53:35PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote: > TLDR; year based release identifiers should be prefered since they are > much more intuitive to reason about than codenames and sequentialy > numbered release identifiers. > > If Debian should improve/change release identifiers,

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Tomas Pospisek
Am 29.06.19 um 14:41 schrieb Jeremy Stanley: > On 2019-06-29 13:53:35 +0200 (+0200), Tomas Pospisek wrote: > [...] >> As others here I am starting to get confused by the release code >> names, as are my peers that are not that much into Debian. And >> sequential release numbers are devoid of any

Re: Survey results: git packaging practices / repository format

2019-06-29 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Enrico" == Enrico Zini writes: Enrico> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:42:29PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: >> I hope you all won't mind too much that Sean and I have >> privileged our own point of view, in the columns which contain >> value judgements, and that we hope to retain

Accepted mikutter 3.9.0~alpha3+dfsg-1 (source all) into unstable

2019-06-29 Thread VDR dai
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 21:30:45 +0900 Source: mikutter Binary: mikutter Architecture: source all Version: 3.9.0~alpha3+dfsg-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai) Changed-By: HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2019-06-29 13:53:35 +0200 (+0200), Tomas Pospisek wrote: [...] > As others here I am starting to get confused by the release code > names, as are my peers that are not that much into Debian. And > sequential release numbers are devoid of any semantics except for > their monotonically increasing

Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Tomas Pospisek
Am 25.06.19 um 08:08 schrieb Ansgar: > what do people think about getting rid of current suite names ("stable", > "testing", "unstable") for most purposes? We already recommend using > codenames instead as those don't change their meaning when a new release > happens. > > Related to that I

Re: Survey results: git packaging practices / repository format

2019-06-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Enrico Zini writes ("Re: Survey results: git packaging practices / repository format"): > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:42:29PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I hope you all won't mind too much that Sean and I have privileged our > > own point of view, in the columns which contain value judgements,

Re: Survey results: git packaging practices / repository format

2019-06-29 Thread Enrico Zini
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:42:29PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > I hope you all won't mind too much that Sean and I have privileged our > own point of view, in the columns which contain value judgements, and > that we hope to retain that property of the page. I have no problem with you making a

Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b07-2 (source) into experimental

2019-06-29 Thread Matthias Klose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 11:17:16 +0200 Source: openjdk-8 Architecture: source Version: 8u222-b07-2 Distribution: experimental Urgency: medium Maintainer: OpenJDK Team Changed-By: Matthias Klose Changes: openjdk-8 (8u222-b07-2)

Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b07-1 (source) into experimental

2019-06-29 Thread Matthias Klose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 10:48:23 +0200 Source: openjdk-8 Architecture: source Version: 8u222-b07-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: medium Maintainer: OpenJDK Team Changed-By: Matthias Klose Changes: openjdk-8 (8u222-b07-1)

Accepted gitlab-ci-multi-runner 12.0.1+dfsg-1 (source) into unstable

2019-06-29 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 17:27:53 +1000 Source: gitlab-ci-multi-runner Architecture: source Version: 12.0.1+dfsg-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Dmitry Smirnov Changed-By: Dmitry Smirnov Closes: 921530 924532

Re: Uninformative hyperlink in O: (package orphaning) bug reports

2019-06-29 Thread Tobias Frost
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 03:38:48PM -0400, Boyuan Yang wrote: > Dear -devel list, > > (Please forward this email to proper mailing lists if there's other lists that > this email would suit in better.) > > I noticed that for all bug reports that orphan a package in Debian, a semi- > standard

Accepted rust-encoding-rs 0.8.15-2 (source) into unstable

2019-06-29 Thread kpcyrd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 08:46:08 +0200 Source: rust-encoding-rs Architecture: source Version: 0.8.15-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Debian Rust Maintainers Changed-By: kpcyrd Changes: rust-encoding-rs (0.8.15-2)