Re: how about telegram channel

[Marc Haber]

On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 21:01:22 +0200, Bartosz Fenski 
wrote:
>I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have IRC client and to be honest I 
>think modern solutions like Telegram are simply easier and much more 
>practical nowadays.

It would also be simply easier and much more practical nowadays to
ship an official installer that allows installation on modern hardware
without hiding our head away in "we're fully free, but sadly we dont
run on modern hardware unless you ditch that and use those unofficial
images"

That being said, I'll consider using a non-free chat service once we
start shipping needed firmware on official media.

Greetings
Marc
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Accepted r-cran-rcpphnsw 0.4.1+ds-1 (source) into unstable

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Re: how about matrix channel

[Nilesh Patra]

On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 11:51:45AM +0800, xiao sheng wen(肖盛文) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>     Is there a GUI Desktop client to use https://element.debian.social ?

Yes, nheko in the archive[1]

There is element desktop as well, which is not packaged yet, and
whose unofficial (upstream packaging) `.deb's are here[2] in case you want 
these (not very recommended though)

[1]: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/nheko
[2]: https://element.io/get-started#linux-details

-- 
Regards,
Nilesh


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Re: how about matrix channel

[肖盛文]

Hi,

    Is there a GUI Desktop client to use https://element.debian.social ?

I can use Firefox for it now.

Thanks!

在 2022/7/20 05:03, Kyle Robbertze 写道:


There is the Debian Social [1] Matrix instance at 
https://element.debian.social. You can sign in with Salsa. Many of the 
Debian IRC channels are bridged and collected in the 
#debian:matrix.debian.social space.


[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianSocial

Cheers
Kyle



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Re: how about telegram channel

[肖盛文]

Hi,

    The telegram is blocked by China GFW.

It's not easy to use telegram in China mainland.


在 2022/7/20 03:01, Bartosz Fenski 写道:

Hey folks.

Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of 
communication?


I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have IRC client and to be honest I 
think modern solutions like Telegram are simply easier and much more 
practical nowadays.


I tried to search for "telegram" in archives of this ML but I found 
just ITPs for some random packages.


Did we consider adding (I intentionally try to avoid word switching) 
some new channels for communication among devs? How about debian-devel 
channel on Telegram?


I created one

https://t.me/debian_devel

Of course I'm willing to give admin access to it to whoever we decide 
is correct person / group to cover that.


Do we even have people that could do that?

I don't want to start flamewar. REALLY.

regards
Bartosz Fenski





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Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

[Yao Wei (魏銘廷)]

>> * Package name: gender-guesser
>> Version : 0.4.0
>> Upstream Author : Israel Saeta Pérez 
>> * URL : https://github.com/lead-ratings/gender-guesser
>> * License : GPL-3 & GFDL-1.2+
>> Programming Lang: Python
>> Description : Guess the gender from first name

Hi,

I'd like to ask a practical question, do we have anything either in WNPP or in 
the archive that depends or uses this package?

Although I guess this library might violate DFSG 5 by itself, I would like to 
see where it's actually used and why we need the library.

Yao Wei

(This email is sent from a phone; sorry for HTML email if it happens.)

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Re: RFC: Switch default from netkit-telnet(d) to inetutils-telnet(d)

[Sam Hartman]

> "Guillem" == Guillem Jover  writes:

Guillem> Hi!  There's been talk about switching away from
Guillem> netkit-telnet and netkit-telnetd as the default
Guillem> implementations for some time now, and replacing them with
Guillem> the ones from inetutils, which is a maintained project and
Guillem> does see releases (even though with a long cadence).

I've reviewed your plan.  Over the years I've maintained a telnet
upstream so I have some familiarity with the space even though I am no
longer involved in the telnet server universe.
I think your plan makes sense and I support it.

I definitely think Debian should still have a telnet server, although it
is very much a niche application

Thanks Guillem and Simon for your work on this!

Accepted haskell-repa 3.4.1.5-1 (source) into unstable

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Accepted haskell-microlens-platform 0.4.2.1-1 (source) into unstable

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Accepted haskell-glut 2.7.0.16-1 (source) into unstable

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Accepted haskell-megaparsec 9.2.1-1 (source) into unstable

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Maintainer: Debian Haskell Group 

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Changes:
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Accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha256 0.11.102.1-1 (source) into unstable

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Maintainer: Debian Haskell Group 

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Accepted haskell-cryptohash-sha1 0.11.101.0-1 (source) into unstable

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Maintainer: Debian Haskell Group 

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archive keys
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Re: RFC: Switch default from netkit-telnet(d) to inetutils-telnet(d)

[Philip Hands]

Jeremy Stanley  writes:
...
> This is getting increasingly off-topic, but you're able to get a
> modern SSH client to successfully connect to an old device which
> only speaks SSHv1 protocol?

There is:  openssh-client-ssh1

  https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openssh-ssh1

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: how about matrix channel, it is available

[Geert Stappers]

On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:03:00PM +0200, Kyle Robbertze wrote:
> On 2022/07/19 22:12, Alastair McKinstry wrote:
> > On 19/07/2022 21:04, Wookey wrote:
> > > On 2022-07-19 21:01 +0200, Bartosz Fenski wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of
> > > > communication?
> > > > 
> > > Matrix please. It's free software all the way through. We can run our
> > > own server. Not-mobile-phones are 1st class clients.
> > > 
> > > I'm increasingly using it to replace IRC (with bridges if
> > > appropriate). I'd be happy to see debian move channels from IRC to
> > > Matrix. I'm not happy about moving them to Telegram or Signal, which
> > > are obviously a great improvement on Whatsapp but still only
> > > somewhat-free. Telegram has non-free back-end. Signal is presumably OK
> > > if you run your own back-end, but you try to use the centralised one
> > > then you can't build your own client (or at least it's made extremely
> > > difficult). Signal requires an active mobile phone number to use (not
> > > sure if telegram is the same).
> > > 
> > > I'm fine with IRC too. It's not broken, but unless you have your own
> > > permanent IRC client instance somewhere it's not great. Having the
> > > store and-forward done by someone else (unless you want to still do it
> > > yourself) is nice.
> > > 
> > > Wookey
> > 
> > I agree.
> > 
> > Importantly, Matrix is (1) federated, (2) can be bridged with other
> > networks, eg IRC.
> > 
> > (as well as being open and free). Its hard to see Signal inter-operating
> > to others. As tech evolves, we need to stick to principles of being open
> > in the sense of federation, not being centralized.
> 
> There is the Debian Social [1] Matrix instance at
> https://element.debian.social. You can sign in with Salsa. Many of the
> Debian IRC channels are bridged and collected in the
> #debian:matrix.debian.social space.
> 

Nice


Groeten
Geert Stappers

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianSocial
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Re: how about matrix channel

[Kyle Robbertze]

On 2022/07/19 22:12, Alastair McKinstry wrote:


On 19/07/2022 21:04, Wookey wrote:

On 2022-07-19 21:01 +0200, Bartosz Fenski wrote:

Hey folks.

Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of
communication?

I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have IRC client and to be honest I 
think

modern solutions like Telegram are simply easier and much more practical
nowadays.

Matrix please. It's free software all the way through. We can run our
own server. Not-mobile-phones are 1st class clients.

I'm increasingly using it to replace IRC (with bridges if
appropriate). I'd be happy to see debian move channels from IRC to
Matrix. I'm not happy about moving them to Telegram or Signal, which
are obviously a great improvement on Whatsapp but still only
somewhat-free. Telegram has non-free back-end. Signal is presumably OK
if you run your own back-end, but you try to use the centralised one
then you can't build your own client (or at least it's made extremely
difficult). Signal requires an active mobile phone number to use (not
sure if telegram is the same).

I'm fine with IRC too. It's not broken, but unless you have your own
permanent IRC client instance somewhere it's not great. Having the
store and-forward done by someone else (unless you want to still do it
yourself) is nice.

Wookey


I agree.

Importantly, Matrix is (1) federated, (2) can be bridged with other 
networks, eg IRC.


(as well as being open and free). Its hard to see Signal inter-operating 
to others. As tech evolves, we need to stick to principles of being open 
in the sense of federation, not being centralized.


There is the Debian Social [1] Matrix instance at 
https://element.debian.social. You can sign in with Salsa. Many of the 
Debian IRC channels are bridged and collected in the 
#debian:matrix.debian.social space.


[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianSocial

Cheers
Kyle

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Bug#1015729: ITP: org-make-toc -- automatic tables of contents for Org files

[Sean Whitton]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sean Whitton 
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-emac...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: org-make-toc
  Version : 0.5
  Upstream Author : Adam Porter 
* URL : https://github.com/alphapapa/org-make-toc
* License : GPL-3
  Programming Lang: Emacs Lisp
  Description : automatic tables of contents for Org files

I am packaging this as a dependency of ement-el, another ITP of mine.

-- 
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Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

[Philip Hands]

Adam Borowski  writes:

> In other words, if you don't pick a culture, the _global_ dataset (ie, the
> default one) must not assume either.  It takes a lot of work to prepare
> such a database, that's why this package is good to have.

What exactly is it supposed to be good for?

From what I can tell, at best it produces harmless nonsense, and at
worst it will cause people to be misidentified in ways that will vary
between mildly humourous to significantly hurtful.

It seems to me about as useful as a hammer with a loose head, which would
allow you to drive nails just well enough that you'll keep on using it
until it breaks your toe.

Cheers, Phil.
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Bug#1015727: ITP: taxy-magit-section-el -- View Taxy structs in a Magit Section buffer

[Sean Whitton]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sean Whitton 
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-emac...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: taxy-magit-section-el
  Version : 0.9.1
  Upstream Author : Adam Porter 
* URL : https://github.com/alphapapa/taxy.el branch 
package/taxy-magit-section
* License : GPL-3+
  Programming Lang: Emacs Lisp
  Description : View Taxy structs in a Magit Section buffer

I am packaging this as a dependency of ement-el, another ITP of mine.

-- 
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Bug#1015726: ITP: emacs-svg-lib -- SVG tags, progress bars & icons for Emacs

[Sean Whitton]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sean Whitton 
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-emac...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: emacs-svg-lib
  Version : 0.2.5
  Upstream Author : Nicolas P. Rougier 
* URL : https://github.com/rougier/svg-lib
* License : GPL-3+
  Programming Lang: Emacs Lisp
  Description : SVG tags, progress bars & icons for Emacs

I am packaging this as a dependency of ement-el, another ITP of mine.

-- 
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Bug#1015725: ITP: taxy-el -- Programmable taxonomical grouping for arbitrary objects for Emacs

[Sean Whitton]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sean Whitton 
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-emac...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: taxy-el
  Version : 0.9
  Upstream Author : Adam Porter 
* URL : https://github.com/alphapapa/taxy.el
* License : GPL-3+
  Programming Lang: Emacs Lisp
  Description : Programmable taxonomical grouping for arbitrary objects for 
Emacs

I am packaging this as a dependency of ement-el, another ITP of mine.

-- 
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Re: how about matrix channel

[Alastair McKinstry]

On 19/07/2022 21:04, Wookey wrote:

On 2022-07-19 21:01 +0200, Bartosz Fenski wrote:

Hey folks.

Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of
communication?

I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have IRC client and to be honest I think
modern solutions like Telegram are simply easier and much more practical
nowadays.

Matrix please. It's free software all the way through. We can run our
own server. Not-mobile-phones are 1st class clients.

I'm increasingly using it to replace IRC (with bridges if
appropriate). I'd be happy to see debian move channels from IRC to
Matrix. I'm not happy about moving them to Telegram or Signal, which
are obviously a great improvement on Whatsapp but still only
somewhat-free. Telegram has non-free back-end. Signal is presumably OK
if you run your own back-end, but you try to use the centralised one
then you can't build your own client (or at least it's made extremely
difficult). Signal requires an active mobile phone number to use (not
sure if telegram is the same).

I'm fine with IRC too. It's not broken, but unless you have your own
permanent IRC client instance somewhere it's not great. Having the
store and-forward done by someone else (unless you want to still do it
yourself) is nice.

Wookey


I agree.

Importantly, Matrix is (1) federated, (2) can be bridged with other 
networks, eg IRC.


(as well as being open and free). Its hard to see Signal inter-operating 
to others. As tech evolves, we need to stick to principles of being open 
in the sense of federation, not being centralized.


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Bug#1015724: ITP: plz-el -- HTTP library for Emacs

[Sean Whitton]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sean Whitton 
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-emac...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: plz-el
  Version : 0.2
  Upstream Author : Adam Porter 
* URL : https://github.com/alphapapa/plz.el
* License : GPL-3+
  Programming Lang: Emacs Lisp
  Description : HTTP library for Emacs

I am packaging this as a dependency of ement-el, another ITP of mine.

-- 
Sean Whitton

Bug#1015723: ITP: ement-el -- Matrix client for Emacs

[Sean Whitton]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sean Whitton 
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-emac...@lists.debian.org

* Package name: ement-el
  Version : 0~git...
  Upstream Author : Adam Porter 
* URL : https://github.com/alphapapa/ement.el
* License : GPL-3+
  Programming Lang: Emacs Lisp
  Description : Matrix client for Emacs

I'll upload this to experimental for now, until upstream makes a stable
release.  But we can help them do some testing.

-- 
Sean Whitton

Accepted expeyes 5.0+repack-1 (source) into experimental

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Re: how about matrix channel

[Wookey]

On 2022-07-19 21:01 +0200, Bartosz Fenski wrote:
> Hey folks.
> 
> Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of
> communication?
> 
> I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have IRC client and to be honest I think
> modern solutions like Telegram are simply easier and much more practical
> nowadays.

Matrix please. It's free software all the way through. We can run our
own server. Not-mobile-phones are 1st class clients.

I'm increasingly using it to replace IRC (with bridges if
appropriate). I'd be happy to see debian move channels from IRC to
Matrix. I'm not happy about moving them to Telegram or Signal, which
are obviously a great improvement on Whatsapp but still only
somewhat-free. Telegram has non-free back-end. Signal is presumably OK
if you run your own back-end, but you try to use the centralised one
then you can't build your own client (or at least it's made extremely
difficult). Signal requires an active mobile phone number to use (not
sure if telegram is the same).

I'm fine with IRC too. It's not broken, but unless you have your own
permanent IRC client instance somewhere it's not great. Having the
store and-forward done by someone else (unless you want to still do it
yourself) is nice.

Wookey
-- 
Principal hats:  Debian, Wookware, ARM
http://wookware.org/


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Re: how about telegram channel

[Boyuan Yang]

Hi,

在 2022-07-19星期二的 21:01 +0200，Bartosz Fenski写道：
> Hey folks.
> 
> Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of 
> communication?
> 
> I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have IRC client and to be honest I 
> think modern solutions like Telegram are simply easier and much more 
> practical nowadays.
> 
> I tried to search for "telegram" in archives of this ML but I found just 
> ITPs for some random packages.
> 
> Did we consider adding (I intentionally try to avoid word switching) 
> some new channels for communication among devs? How about debian-devel 
> channel on Telegram?
> 
> I created one
> 
> https://t.me/debian_devel
> 
> Of course I'm willing to give admin access to it to whoever we decide is 
> correct person / group to cover that.
> 
> Do we even have people that could do that?

To provide an example: unofficially there is a @debianzh telegram group that
coordinates all Chinese-speaking Debian users and developers, including
several DDs. It is also connected to OFTC IRC #debian-zh channel [1] via a
bridge bot maintained by me.

However, I have no confidence on whether we want a somehow "official"
debian-devel chat group outside of IRC, or even having it bridged back to
IRC #debian-devel channel in some way.

[1] See https://wiki.debian.org/IRC

Thanks,
Boyuan Yang


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Re: how about telegram channel

[Michael Biebl]

Am 19.07.22 um 21:01 schrieb Bartosz Fenski:

Hey folks.

Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of 
communication?


I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have IRC client and to be honest I 
think modern solutions like Telegram are simply easier and much more 
practical nowadays.


I switched to Matrix (and its IRC bridge) as I no longer wanted to run 
an IRC bouncer.

It works reasonably well.

Using a "native" debian/debian-devel room would be an alternative I'd 
prefer over a Telegram channel.


Michael



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how about telegram channel

[Bartosz Fenski]

Hey folks.

Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of 
communication?


I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have IRC client and to be honest I 
think modern solutions like Telegram are simply easier and much more 
practical nowadays.


I tried to search for "telegram" in archives of this ML but I found just 
ITPs for some random packages.


Did we consider adding (I intentionally try to avoid word switching) 
some new channels for communication among devs? How about debian-devel 
channel on Telegram?


I created one

https://t.me/debian_devel

Of course I'm willing to give admin access to it to whoever we decide is 
correct person / group to cover that.


Do we even have people that could do that?

I don't want to start flamewar. REALLY.

regards
Bartosz Fenski

Re: RFC: Switch default from netkit-telnet(d) to inetutils-telnet(d)

[Jeremy Stanley]

On 2022-07-19 20:15:49 +0200 (+0200), Philipp Kern wrote:
[...]
> I found the client-side very tolerant of ancient server-side
> implementations when the right kinds of switches are passed to it
> (e.g. KexAlgorithms and HostKeyAlgorithms). I have yet to be
> unable to actually connect to a target - even if it means fiddling
> increasingly with flags.

This is getting increasingly off-topic, but you're able to get a
modern SSH client to successfully connect to an old device which
only speaks SSHv1 protocol?
-- 
Jeremy Stanley


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Re: RFC: Switch default from netkit-telnet(d) to inetutils-telnet(d)

[Philipp Kern]

On 19.07.22 16:05, Michael Stone wrote:

On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 01:49:53AM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
Telnet is old, insecure and should not be used any more. What is the 
point of
packaging a Telnet daemon when everyone should be using SSH. Telnet 
Client I
can see because a person may need to connect to a router or switch 
that is

still using telnet or hasn't had SSH Certificates generated yet.
I personally use telnet to connect to systems whose ssh implementations 
are old enough that they are no longer interoperable with current ssh. 
Every system will eventually become an old system, and telnet has a much 
better record of working over the long term than does ssh. Security 
concerns have a place in determining defaults, but not in banning 
software that other people find useful in a context that might not 
matter to you.


I found the client-side very tolerant of ancient server-side 
implementations when the right kinds of switches are passed to it (e.g. 
KexAlgorithms and HostKeyAlgorithms). I have yet to be unable to 
actually connect to a target - even if it means fiddling increasingly 
with flags.


Kind regards
Philipp Kern

Accepted haskell-minimorph 0.3.0.1-1 (source) into unstable

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Re: enabling LTO by default is vastly inappropriate (was Re: Bug#1015386: dietlibc: ftbfs with LTO (link time optimization) enabled)

[Adam Borowski]

On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 05:15:32PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> Matthias Klose dixit:
> >The goal is to enable this optimization by default in an upcoming
> >Debian release in dpkg-buildflags for 64bit architectures.  The goal
> >is to get this package to build with link time optimizations, or to
> >explicitly disable link time optimizations for this package build.
> 
> This is daring, especially from the GCC maintainer.
> 
> GCC (both in Debian and upstream) have been ignoring many known
> bugs related to LTO (both in the -fwhole-program --combine and

I have tried LTO when it came out, on a number of quite large complex
codebases.  In the 4.* days it was indeed full of bugs.  But today,
the I would say it is good enough for being enabled by default.

> These bugs are subtile miscompilations. In mksh, only one test
> by accident fails due to the GCC LTO bug. It’s definitely *not*

What was the last version of gcc that you have tested?

> (As for dietlibc, it’s inappropriate there anyway, so it opts out.)

That's a shame, as it's specifically a library that could use reduced size
due to the compiler being able to notice and excise unnecessary bits.

A glance at the failure log shows that first we have an obvious bug that
has been uncovered now:

extern int main(int argc,char* argv[],char* envp[]);
vs
int main(int argc,char *argv[])

then some linker games.


Meow!
-- 
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ What kind of a drug are "base" and "red pill"?  I think acid is
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ LSD, which would make base... ?  Judging from the behaviour of
⠈⠳⣄ those "based and redpilled", something nasty.

Re: Circuito MiniDC Brasil

[Francis Camargo]

A Disposição.


Atenciosamente,
*Francismar Camargo.*





Em ter., 19 de jul. de 2022 às 12:04, Bruno Alves de Oliveira <
bruno.alv.olive...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Sou super parceiro, se tiver algo que eu possa contribuir estou a
> disposição.
> Bruno Alves de Oliveira
>
>
> Em seg., 27 de jun. de 2022 às 20:00, Daniel Lenharo 
> escreveu:
>
>> Olá povo!
>>
>> Estamos pensando em propor a realização de um "circuito" de encontros
>> Debian ou uma MiniDebConf em 3 etapas.
>>
>> A ideia seria realizar 3 encontros por ano (sexta, sábado e domingo) em
>> cada quadrimestre e em uma região distinta do pais.
>>
>> Como primeira ideia, pensamos em fazer no ano de 2023:
>>
>> Curitiba (SUL), Brasilia(DF), BH(Sudeste) ou Maceio(Nordeste).
>>
>> Não necessariamente nesta ordem.
>>
>> E 2024, faríamos Norte, Centro-oeste e o que não foi (Sudeste ou
>> nordeste).
>>
>> E assim por diante, e podendo ir para algumas cidades longe das capitais
>> também, mas com acessibilidade adequada.
>>
>>
>> O que acham da ideia?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Lenharo
>> Curitiba - Brazil
>> www.sombra.eti.br
>> 31D8 0509 460E FB31 DF4B
>> 9629 FB0E 132D DB0A A5B1
>>
>

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enabling LTO by default is vastly inappropriate (was Re: Bug#1015386: dietlibc: ftbfs with LTO (link time optimization) enabled)

[Thorsten Glaser]

Matthias Klose dixit:

>The goal is to enable this optimization by default in an upcoming
>Debian release in dpkg-buildflags for 64bit architectures.  The goal
>is to get this package to build with link time optimizations, or to
>explicitly disable link time optimizations for this package build.

This is daring, especially from the GCC maintainer.

GCC (both in Debian and upstream) have been ignoring many known
bugs related to LTO (both in the -fwhole-program --combine and
the -flto form) which I found due to mksh’s testsuite and reported
for *years*.

These bugs are subtile miscompilations. In mksh, only one test
by accident fails due to the GCC LTO bug. It’s definitely *not*
ripe for general use, *especially* not on software without a
large testsuite with large coverage.

(As for dietlibc, it’s inappropriate there anyway, so it opts out.)

Uploaded,
//mirabilos
-- 
„Cool, /usr/share/doc/mksh/examples/uhr.gz ist ja ein Grund,
mksh auf jedem System zu installieren.“
-- XTaran auf der OpenRheinRuhr, ganz begeistert
(EN: “[…]uhr.gz is a reason to install mksh on every system.”)

LTO and ABI compatibility

[Ian Jackson]

I have just received Bug#1015348 reporting that adns doesn't work with
LTO (link-time optimisation).

How does LTO work with ABI compatibility, which we rely on very
heavily ?  Eg, my reading of the spec is as follows: if I add members
to an enum in a new library version, making a combined program
containing translation units with the old enum, and ones with the new
enum, is UB.[1]

But that is precisely what we do when we run new binaries against old
libraries.

I think src:adns only does things which are justified by traditional
ABI compatibility assumptions (albeit, that in some parts of the build
it makes these assumptions when linking statically, as well as when
linking dynamically).

So what, precisely and formally, are the rules ?

I feel entitled to demand a fully precise and formal specification of
the rules, because it is precisely fully precise and formal and
expansive readings of C's literally-incomprehensible[2] specifications
which are being used to justify miscompilations (so-called
"optimisations").


Frannkly, I think enabling LTO by default is a mistake.  The
performance benefits are not likely to be worth the bugs silently
introduced across our codebase.  If there are particular programs that
would benefit from it, by all means enable it in those cases.

Ian.

[1] Assuming that the enum type is used in a relevant way.

[2] If anyone doubts that the C specification is literally
incomprehensible, observe, for example, the existence of research
papers with titles like "Towards a formal semantics for C", or indeed
the absolutely hilarious discovery that the specification forgot to
define the meaning of assigments when the assignment target was
written in parentheses, and that no-one noticed this for decades.

-- 
Ian JacksonThese opinions are my own.  

Pronouns: they/he.  If I emailed you from @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk,
that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.

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Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

[Adam Borowski]

On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 06:08:16PM +0200, Andrej Shadura wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jul 2022, at 16:57, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 01:48:17PM +0200, Andrej Shadura wrote:
> >> Take Misha/Miša/Миша or Petya/Peťa/Петя.  In Russian tradition, these are
> >> very likely masculine names, from Mikhail and Petr.
> 
> > If only this piece of software had a distinction between "almost always
> > male", "leaning male", "neutral", "leaning female", "almost always
> > female"...  Oh wait, it does!
> > Precisely for the reason you mention.
> 
> No, it does not and cannot, since some names are almost always male in one 
> culture but almost always female in another one.

In other words, if you don't pick a culture, the _global_ dataset (ie, the
default one) must not assume either.  It takes a lot of work to prepare
such a database, that's why this package is good to have.


Meow!
-- 
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ At least spammers get it right: "Hello beautiful!".
⠈⠳⣄

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Re: Circuito MiniDC Brasil

[Bruno Alves de Oliveira]

Sou super parceiro, se tiver algo que eu possa contribuir estou a
disposição.
Bruno Alves de Oliveira


Em seg., 27 de jun. de 2022 às 20:00, Daniel Lenharo 
escreveu:

> Olá povo!
>
> Estamos pensando em propor a realização de um "circuito" de encontros
> Debian ou uma MiniDebConf em 3 etapas.
>
> A ideia seria realizar 3 encontros por ano (sexta, sábado e domingo) em
> cada quadrimestre e em uma região distinta do pais.
>
> Como primeira ideia, pensamos em fazer no ano de 2023:
>
> Curitiba (SUL), Brasilia(DF), BH(Sudeste) ou Maceio(Nordeste).
>
> Não necessariamente nesta ordem.
>
> E 2024, faríamos Norte, Centro-oeste e o que não foi (Sudeste ou nordeste).
>
> E assim por diante, e podendo ir para algumas cidades longe das capitais
> também, mas com acessibilidade adequada.
>
>
> O que acham da ideia?
>
>
> --
> Daniel Lenharo
> Curitiba - Brazil
> www.sombra.eti.br
> 31D8 0509 460E FB31 DF4B
> 9629 FB0E 132D DB0A A5B1
>

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

[Adam Borowski]

On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 01:48:17PM +0200, Andrej Shadura wrote:
> No need to go that far.

> Andrea in Germany is traditionally a woman’s name, Andrea in Italy is a
> masculine name.  How can we tell if a certain specific Andrea is named
> according to the German (Czech, Slovak etc) tradition (and hence likely a
> woman) or the Italian (and hence probably a man)?  There’s no way to
> generally tell this based on the name alone.
> 
> Take Misha/Miša/Миша or Petya/Peťa/Петя.  In Russian tradition, these are
> very likely masculine names, from Mikhail and Petr.

If only this piece of software had a distinction between "almost always
male", "leaning male", "neutral", "leaning female", "almost always
female"...  Oh wait, it does!
Precisely for the reason you mention.

> And we haven’t yet touched the topic of people who were given non-traditional 
> names.

In which case it says "unknown".


Meow!
-- 
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ We domesticated dogs 36000 years ago; together we chased
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ animals, hung out and licked or scratched our private parts.
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ Cats domesticated us 9500 years ago, and immediately we got
⠈⠳⣄ agriculture, towns then cities. -- whitroth on /.

Bug#1015342: node-netmask -- Parse and lookup IP network blocks

[Michael Ikwuegbu]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Ikwuegbu 
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name    : node-netmask
  Version : 2.0.2
  Upstream Author : Olivier Poitrey 
* URL : https://github.com/rs/node-netmask
* License : Expat
  Programming Lang: JavaScript
  Description : Parse and lookup IP network blocks

.

The Netmask class parses and understands IPv4 CIDR blocks so they can be 
explored and compared.


.

Node.js is an event-based server-side JavaScript engine.

Accepted python-confuse 2.0.0-1 (source) into unstable

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