Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-06-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 01:51:19AM +0300, Serge wrote: Some people asked for a thread summary. So here it is. [Lots of drivel, including thoroughly debunked statements, snipped. Seriously, can't you even read what's written to you? Sorry for being angry, but there's a limit to how many times you

Re: Bug#677942: ITP: xz-java -- Java library with a complete implementation of XZ data compression

2012-06-18 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 06:10:30PM -0430, Miguel Landaeta wrote: * Package name: xz-java Description : Java library with a complete implementation of XZ data compression XZ for Java aims to be a complete implementation of XZ data compression in pure Java. Do you happen to have

Re: Malloc and security

2012-06-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:38:15PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:25:51PM +0100, Jamie White wrote: Hiya Just a quick question, which malloc, is there anyway that this function (used in C) could allocate memory into already allocated memory, such as the stack -

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-23 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 01:07:56PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: It has to be held back. But apt-get/aptitude might select a solution where they do get removed rather then hold back many other packages. I'm hoping it will be held back automatically without user intervention but that might

Re: Lintian warning: hardening-no-fortify-functions version numbering

2012-06-23 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:08:50PM +0300, Serge wrote: 2012/6/19 José Luis Segura Lucas wrote: (http://wiki.debian.org/Hardening#Notes_for_packages_using_CMake), referred by lintian-info too. Using it I only need to define export DEB_BUILD_HARDENING=1 on my debian/rules and it adds the

Re: duplicates in the archive

2012-06-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:21:39PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 24 juin 2012 à 20:42 +0200, Arno Töll a écrit : What makes 42 window manager acceptable but not 43? Who said 42 is acceptable? Sure, let's start removals with ones that hard-depend on things a window manager

Re: Really? Again?

2012-06-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:14:46AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Oooh, NM bashing. I like completely irrelevant NM bashing that suddenly pops in an unrelated discussion. It’s been some time. Reading NM bashing really makes me want to jump on my packages and cripple their functionality so

Re: cross-build-essential

2012-06-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:29:25PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: On 28/06/12 10:43, Svante Signell wrote: The situation is even more complicated if compiling for different OSes: Like as host (build) Linux:i386 and guest (target) kFreeBSD:amd64 or Hurd:i386. Any plans to support such

Re: duplicates in the archive

2012-07-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:23:38AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:38:42PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Which wm does that? I know it isn't gnome-shell at least, as I've been using it quite successfully without nm installed. Have you tried to use evolution without

Re: duplicates in the archive

2012-07-08 Thread Adam Borowski
WHOOPS, SORRY. Meant to delete this old draft, not send it. The issue is valid, but sorry for incomplete mail. On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 04:48:01PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:23:38AM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:38:42PM +0200, Svante Signell

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 04:22:58PM -0600, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 12:03:44AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org (07/07/2012): Another question is if the release team would consider unblocking updated packages (with just the switch to

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 08:42:07PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 16:14 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: - ftp, telnet: mostly redundant with wget and nc, unless you really like cleartext authentication I don't get why anyone would talk about authentication in the context of ftp

Re: N-M: Depends-Recommends (was: Re: duplicates in the archive)

2012-07-09 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 07:46:52PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Adam Borowski writes (Re: duplicates in the archive): Breaks unrelated software on the system is a RC severity, and there's no way one can say a windowing environment is related to core networking. Thus, I'd say, #542095 needs

Re: duplicates in the archive

2012-07-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 03:32:43PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 10 juillet 2012 à 17:38 +0900, Miles Bader a écrit : What's wrong with Recommends: in that case? It seems to perfectly match the makes life easier for common but not universal use-case XXX scenario you describe.

Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-11 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 08:04:18PM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 11 July 2012 14:21, Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org wrote: Installing N-M breaks unrelated software. I don't claim to be a networking expert, but I believe half the conversation here is based on wrong or outdated

Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-11 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:32:19PM -0600, Philipp Kern wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 07:21:00PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: Installing N-M breaks unrelated software. No. At most it breaks *related* software. Exactly, that's why it's the gnome-core package that's RC-buggy, not

Re: Have NetworkManager disabled by default when... (was: Recommends for metapackages)

2012-07-18 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 02:18:12PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2012-07-14 22:59:35 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Due to those drawbacks, I've wondered why people don't just disable NetworkManager on their system instead of bothering with workarounds like the above or dpkg -P

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:42:03AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Hideki Yamane wrote: On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 17:58:16 +0200 Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: • xz -6 (the default) is a lot slower when compressing, fast when decompressing, needs only 10MB memory, 58% size • xz -9

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 07:58:42PM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote: Simon Paillard wrote: , I understand debian-installer ask dpkg not to fsync: - Run dpkg with --force-unsafe-io during installation; syncing is This only affects one particular instance of syncing (which I think may be

Re: How to proceed with switching packages on first CDs to xz?

2012-08-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 04:58:02PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: I was wondering how to proceed with switching packages on the first CDs to use xz compression. I would like to limit these uploads to a, packages with Priority: optional and extra, and b, those where we gain at least 500 kB

Re: Change default PATH for Jessie / wheezy+1

2012-08-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 03:16:59AM +0200, Ulrich Dangel wrote: Currently the default PATH for Debian does not include /sbin, /usr/sbin, nor /usr/local/sbin. If an user wants to run a program in either /sbin/ or /usr/sbin the full path must be specified. Changing the default PATH for normal

Re: Change default PATH for Jessie / wheezy+1

2012-08-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 12:22:50PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 08, Arno Töll a...@debian.org wrote: historic, rather. ifconfig and route were around already when everyone insisted on the separation of /bin and /sbin. /bin/ip is slightly newer and supposed to replace ifconfig/route

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-09 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 03:54:05PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: Please do not bother. openrc was recently discussed on debian-devel@ and there was a large consensus that it is not a credible alternative to upstart and systemd. openrc is not acceptable from the very start, as it lacks a key

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-09 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 02:51:49PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 10:40:44PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 03:54:05PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: Please do not bother. openrc was recently discussed on debian-devel@ and there was a large

Re: choice in core infrastructure decisions (Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism)

2012-08-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:44:32PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le samedi 11 août 2012 à 15:38 -0400, Chris Knadle a écrit : systemd may seem better in /most/ cases because it does have some nice features, but I don't think it's better in *all* cases. systemd doesn't allow

Re: [proposal] use xz compression for Debian package by default

2012-08-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:10:18PM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: In DebConf12, I talked about xz compression for Debian packages(*). Now I'll talk about next step, suggestion for use xz with with result from some experiment.

Re: [proposal] use xz compression for Debian package by default

2012-08-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:56:47PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Before wondering whether PNG files should have an additional compression level, is there any reason why a better PNG compression isn't used in the first place? For instance, optipng -o9 tries various parameters and keeps the best

Re: Bug#687001: ITP: optional-dev -- fake (empty) dev package

2012-09-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 05:08:34PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: Package: wnpp Package name: optional-dev There are situations when some of the libraries listed in Build-Depends are optional i.e. build system is smart enough to avoid failure when such library is missing.

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-11 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 02:33:26PM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 9 September 2012 23:21, Ztatik Light ztatik.li...@gmail.com wrote: According to popcon, Xfce is more common on Debian than GNOME... And How do you figure that? http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=meta-gnome3

Re: Conflict usr/bin/ninja vs usr/sbin/ninja ?

2012-09-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:41:05AM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: I just sponsored the ninja-build package. I realize now that I may have missed one point: does it need to conflict with package ninja ? ninja-build will provide usr/bin/ninja, while ninja provides usr/sbin/ninja. The

Re: assumptions about the build environment.

2012-09-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 09:07:57PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 08:26:24PM +0100, peter green wrote: Some time ago I found that a package (I think it was openjdk but I don't remember for sure) which relied on uname -r such that linux32 had to be used to build it in an

Re: assumptions about the build environment.

2012-09-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 04:28:32PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:23:36AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: They probably should try to use the output of dpkg-architecture to select the arch. Then should never check that output of uname -m. That's living on the

Re: ${HOME} vs. g_get_home_dir ()

2012-09-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:53:36PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 27 septembre 2012 à 14:39 -0700, Josh Triplett a écrit : Agreed entirely. In particular, it breaks the very common use case of running a program with sudo. sudo foo leaves $HOME set to the user's home directory

Re: Discarding uploaded binary packages

2012-10-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 05:23:22PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: if there is a build path sanitization issue, then if the user chooses to rebuild the package they will get their own rogue paths. So, yes, we should always fix those issues when they're found, but at least for people using

Re: Something like nocompress DEB_BUILD_OPTION

2012-11-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 03:39:55PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Dmitrijs Ledkovs x...@debian.org writes: I would like to have a nocompress Debian build option that will skip any compression/optimisation at build time. Specifically dpkg-builddeb and dpkg-source should use not use any

Re: Where could I upload x32 port bootstrap?

2012-11-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:27:20PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Nov 09, Daniel Schepler dschep...@gmail.com wrote: I've asked a couple people in private mail about this, and haven't gotten any answer, so I thought I'd ask here for ideas. Where would be a good place to upload what I have

Re: Where could I upload x32 port bootstrap?

2012-11-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 06:02:36PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:47:43AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: That'd make it mostly worthless. If you need to co-install amd64 packages on the same system (but not physical machine!), memory gains are gone. Right now the term

Re: Where could I upload x32 port bootstrap?

2012-11-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 08:30:06PM +, Wookey wrote: +++ Steve McIntyre [2012-11-10 18:28 +]: *If* we want to include x32, it's worth describing it and understanding the potential benefits properly and getting some benchmarks. There's been some work in Ubuntu on the benchmarking

Re: Question: Packages.xz and Contents-arch.xz

2012-11-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 06:56:10PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Guillem Jover wrote: Although xz-utils is currently priority required, it should really go back to optional, as dpkg stopped Pre-Depending on it some time ago. More like it should be in

Re: x32 port bootstrap is uploaded

2012-11-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 04:37:20PM +, Wookey wrote: +++ Daniel Schepler [2012-11-20 07:51 -0800]: Once upon a time, Thomas Goirand wrote: Can I also just add the above Debian repo, do --add-architecture, and start replacing some packages? How can I for example, replace perl, on a

Re: Bug#693859: ITP: pixz -- parallel, indexing version of xz

2012-11-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:20:11PM -0400, David Bremner wrote: * Package name: pixz So why another parallel xz in the archive. - - This one seems about 25% faster compressing in some simple tests I ran (compressing a 2.7G file with 6 threads, maximum compression). You mean, 25%

Re: Mass bug filling about proprietary code of adobe in our type1 fonts

2012-11-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:07:03PM +, Bart Martens wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:34:34PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: If there is code in a font that has a license attached to it which does not meet the DFSG, then it should go out of Debian; not because we're not allowed to keep it

Re: the right bug severity in case of data corruption

2012-11-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:56:25AM +, Jon Dowland wrote: For anyone else following along at home who is slightly puzzled by all this, http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/mail-mbox-formats.html explains the different mbox formats, what 'From_' means, etc. Quoting from

Re: the right bug severity in case of data corruption

2012-11-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 07:52:16AM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl [121127 16:32]: So, what's the reason mbox is still the default in Debian? Because it works and causes the smallest amount of problems given all the other changes. Like, locking issues

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:20:34PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2012-11-29 01:28:37 +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: But it also has disadvantages to the mbox formats which may be crucial for some people: - wasting a lot of storage, which can be significant even if you use small

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 04:32:33PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2012-11-29 16:16:25 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: *cough* btrfs -ocompress=lzo. Small files are packed inline in metadata blocks, and you get compression you wanted. Using lzo is faster than no compression for most loads

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

2012-11-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 04:23:03PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2012-11-29 15:46:35 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: But it will in a UTF8 locale, Unfortunately the C locale is the only really portable one. Debian's glibc has C.UTF-8 always available these days. or in an ISO-8859-1

Re: Packaging MATE for Debian

2012-12-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 10:21:43PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 01:26:50PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:22:52AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I'd therefore like to ask if anyone here would be willing to help me to get

Re: Bug#695559: ITP: libstring-perlidentifier-perl -- Perl extension that generate a random name for a variable

2012-12-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 06:12:55AM +0100, Xavier Guimard wrote: * Package name: libstring-perlidentifier-perl * URL : http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?String%3A%3APerlIdentifier Description : Perl extension that generate a random name for a variable String::PerlIdentifier

Re: Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:59:02PM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: You installed a 32-bit application on a 64-bit system. That will only work if you also install the 32-bit supporting libraries, including the dynamic linker. This is not a bug in Debian. And no, installing 32-bit libraries by

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable

2013-01-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 01:54:34PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: I agree on all what you said (eg: difficulties in doing such a maintenance, the fact we don't have unlimited manpower, etc.), but I'm still convince it would be worth a try. On 01/06/2013 04:39 AM, Neil Williams wrote: It's

Re: how to handle architecture dependent headers in subdirectories

2013-01-16 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:32:45PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: There are some issues when you do have an architecture dependent header file which needs to be in the multiarch specific include directory. If the header file is directly located in /usr/include, then moving it to

Re: how to handle architecture dependent headers in subdirectories

2013-01-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 01:21:41PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 12:06 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Adam Borowski kilobyte at angband.pl writes: #define DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH x86_64-linux-gnu And then #include DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH /foo/bar.h or what? Is that even

Re: Linux Future

2013-01-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:06:16PM +0100, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: Hello, This blogpost is months old but it makes some interesting reflections: http://www.pappp.net/?p=969 It appears to be the most insightful thing about systemd vs the rest of the world I've ever read. READ IT, FOLKS!

Re: Linux Future

2013-01-23 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 08:16:40PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 02:57:58PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 14:41 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:06:16PM +0100, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: This blogpost is months old

Re: Linux Future

2013-01-23 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 08:45:49PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes: There are two ways to design a system: * a monolithic well-integrated system, granting features and efficiency at the cost of portability and hackability * the traditional Unix way

Re: screen says Bad tty if /dev/console is a symlink

2013-01-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 02:25:56PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: + char real[MAX_PATH]; I guess you meant PATH_MAX here, in any case POSIX does not guarantee MAX variables to be defined, it would be better to use the POSIX.1-2008 variant of realpath(3) that allocates when passed a NULL (by

Re: Building and using shared libraries using gccgo

2013-02-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 04:36:44PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: At least to me my work on Haskell in Debian feels more than pretending, and from personal experience with the creators of the language, I have strong doubts that they are Idiots. In fact I don’t see how you can have modern

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-02-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 05:30:51PM +, Jon Dowland wrote: And in particular, where a problem cannot be solved in pure Debian, I don't want Debian to interfere with the bit of the solution that lives outside of its domain. That may include not attempting to package/patch/alter/adjust

Re: realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 01:52:55AM +0100, iceWave IT wrote: Ok here is the specific place: I've got blacklists, some with over 1 million entries, so the .deb packages have a big size. Debdelta doesn't function good, because so the whole list would be uninstalled and the new list

Re: Bug#701585: marked as done (general: Can't select other languages)

2013-02-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 01:50:59PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: Amen to this. I care a lot about having fairly complete Unicode coverage in my display fonts, and I've often had to trawl through aptitude to try to guess at which font

Bug#702844: marked as done (general: imposible to shutdown or logout graphically in gnome-shell)

2013-03-12 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 08:45:04AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 05:17:34AM +0100, alexdeb wrote: Imposible to shutdown or logout graphically in gnome-shell I saw just a black screen and the system do nothing. When i do shutdown -h now or /etc/init.d/gdm3

Re: Public service announcement about dependencies on gawk

2013-03-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:23:45PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: If your script does require some feature that is not available in mawk or original-awk, you explicitly need to call gawk, since /usr/bin/awk is an alternative and you cannot assume that it will point to gawk. I wonder, would a

Re: bugs.debian.org: something's wrong...

2013-03-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 09:35:13AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:17:16PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: The bigger concern is that this is a web bug, whether it wants to be or not. Whoever hosts any of the

Re: bugs.debian.org: something's wrong...

2013-03-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 05:12:30PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Christoph Biedl debian.axhn at manchmal.in-ulm.de writes: Now it's appearently back online, but a web tracking has been added, as seen in #703298. That's disgusting. It’s not only disgusting but also breaks display in Lynx

Re: Bug#704124: codename 'rc-buggy' not handled correctly

2013-03-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:56:52AM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: Hi, On Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 11:21:29 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:02:11 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: Putting debian-devel@l.d.o on CC for this bug report, as this change might have larger

Re: alternative debian/rules

2013-04-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 03:32:24PM +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote: I've just realized that debian/rules might not be a makefile, but can be a script in any language. The policy says: # 4.9. Main building script: `debian/rules' # - # # This file must be an

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the dependencies satisfactorily the first round (from aptitude install foo), aptitude allows you to interactively pick other solutions, or tell it what to do: Have you

Re: Bug#705930: ITP: kitchen -- Cornuscopia of useful Python code

2013-04-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 02:34:50PM +0200, Simon Chopin wrote: * Package name: kitchen Description : Cornuscopia of useful Python code s/s// The -s- spelling has a bunch of google hits, but they seem to be all either French, or referring to a French band. -- ᛊᚨᚾᛁᛏᚣ᛫ᛁᛊ᛫ᚠᛟᚱ᛫ᚦᛖ᛫ᚹᛖᚨᚲ

/var/cache/ (was Re: Issues with Multi-Arch:same packages on purge)

2013-04-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 08:51:01PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: The following snippet seems suspect, although not a big issue anyway as it's just removing a cache file, although it might leave files behind on remove/purge: ,--- if [ -d /usr/lib/gio/modules ]; then # Purge the cache

Re: Bug#602034: jpeg8 vs jpeg-turbo

2013-04-26 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:29:27PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: On 25/04/13 20:39, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: It boils down to jpeg6-2 is the only important thing. Forget about jpeg8 and jpeg9, which bring incompatible changes. There are other features in newer libjpeg that packages do

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:46:44PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 03:21:43PM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote: [...] You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The default compression level for xz reduces

Re: jpeg8 vs jpeg-turbo

2013-05-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 06:11:48AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Am 24.04.2013 11:23, schrieb Ondřej Surý: do you have some insight how openjpeg enters this game? apparently some packages already use openjpeg explicitly to support some jpeg2000 features. Irrelevant to this discussion, as

Re: Git checkout/clean and double-buildability.

2013-05-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 10:00:07AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Anyway, given that our infrastructure builds binary packages from a fresh unpacked source package, I would prefer if we keep the compromise that imperfect clean targets are not release-critical problems. Note that for a big

OCaml and running shipped binaries (was Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes)

2013-05-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 12:08:06AM +0200, Stéphane Glondu wrote: As far as bootstrapping is concerned, the OCaml sources include precompiled (bytecode) executables that are used in a first stage of the build process (i.e. ocaml doesn't build-depend on itself). So no need for cross-compilation

Re: Debian on illumos (Dyson) LiveCD

2013-05-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 04:12:45PM +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote: In a shadow of Debian 7 release, Dyson - a Debian port to illumos kernel - became self-hosted and now has an installer :-) http://osdyson.org/projects/dyson/wiki/Dyson_Installer I just tried it and ported some stuff to it, it seems

Re: Git checkout/clean and double-buildability.

2013-05-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 04:30:05AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 05/05/13 at 03:06 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 10:00:07AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Anyway, given that our infrastructure builds binary packages from a fresh unpacked source package, I would

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:49:33PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 11:40:50PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: what needs to be touched to achieve aspects of the following features: (Again not implying that they are all desired.) * Permitting source-only uploads.

Re: Current and upcoming toolchain changes for jessie

2013-05-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:59:38AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: (b) It's completely useless on a Debian system, as the kernel doesn't support x32 binaries. Is there a big reason to not enable CONFIG_X86_X32 in default kernels? It doesn't seem to have more downsides than your average kernel

Re: epoch fix?

2013-05-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 09:46:02AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: What I think should be fixed is the fact that it doesn't appear in the filename. I never understood why they don't. Did I miss something? Having a colon in CD/DVD images is likely to cause problems, with the chance of breakage

Re: epoch fix?

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 10:28:54AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 08:26:13AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Kurt Roeckx kurt at roeckx.be writes: Not sure what a clean way of escaping the colon would be. apt already saves it with %3a in

Re: Switching default dpkg-deb compressor to xz

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:17:39AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Hi, On 05/07/2013 21:49, Guillem Jover wrote: As mentioned some months ago [0], I'm planning to switch dpkg-deb default compressor from gzip to xz, as there seemed to be consensus that was the way to go, and given the

Re: epoch fix?

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:08:21AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:55:48AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: wget -q -O- http://angband.pl/tmp/foo%3Abar : -- should be %3A ! And serving .deb files via http isn't exactly a fringe use case... URL encoding is well

Re: Debian 7

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 07:19:09PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 04:56:00PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: Wheezy. It's obvious, isn't it? It comes between Squeeze and Jessie. /sarcasm Wheezy is a brand. [...] No, it really isn't. Everything on the front page of

Re: Switching default dpkg-deb compressor to xz

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 06:14:36PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:49:03PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: As mentioned some months ago [0], I'm planning to switch dpkg-deb default compressor from gzip to xz, as there seemed to be consensus that was the way to go, and

Re: Specifying a C++11 compatible pre-dependency

2013-05-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 06:15:37PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: package requires a fairly complete C++11 support in order to compile. I have tried to signify this by adding Build-Depends: gcc (= 4:4.7) to the dependencies. On PowerPC, despite gcc version 4.7 (and, indeed, 4.8) being

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 07:12:26PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: I can already say that it won't be binary identical to the 64+32 build, because even the 64-bit standalone build isn't binary identical to the 64-bit side of a combined build (even though they're configured the exact same way). I'm

Re: virtualbox moved to contrib

2013-05-18 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 11:38:46PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 05/18/2013 08:30 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: I've noticed that virtualbox moved from main to contrib FYI, this has been discussed here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=691148 It's a major loss. However, Watcom

Re: Debian systemd survey

2013-05-23 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:55:41AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 05/23/2013 06:56 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: As you may know, systemd is developed by a large amount of contributors How on earth does that contradict with the fact that 40%, i.e. the minority of all

optimizing PNGs

2013-05-26 Thread Adam Borowski
Hi folks! A while ago, someone raised the possibility of recompressing PNG files. Unlike xz, this would save space not only on mirrors but also on live installed systems. PNGs are nearly incompressible so this is mostly independent from xz. At least by number, there's a lot of PNG images:

Re: optimizing PNGs

2013-05-26 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 07:42:49PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: A while ago, someone raised the possibility of recompressing PNG files. Unlike xz, this would save space not only on mirrors but also on live

Re: default MTA

2013-05-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:09:07PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 28 mai 2013 à 10:34 +0100, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : There is an impedence mismatch between packages which consider an MTA and the sendmail interface to be standard and those desktop components that make no such

Re: default MTA

2013-05-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:07:04AM +0200, Arno Töll wrote: Why not consider something light, better suited for most systems which need nothing but a sendmail binary which is suited to relay to a real(tm) mail-server and deliver local mail and does not involve lots of configuration and/or

Re: optimizing PNGs

2013-05-28 Thread Adam Borowski
A while ago, someone raised the possibility of recompressing PNG files. It turns out that since recently, some crazy googlers are guilty of zopfli which can optimize PNGs even better, but taking all the CPU in the world for doing so. This doesn't sound useful for automated use during package

Re: default MTA

2013-05-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 07:37:52AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: It might help if we used a bit more precision in terimonolgy. Not a full blown MTA as described here is a Mail Submission Agent (MSA). See RFC 5598 for details: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5598#section-4.3.1 A mere MSA

Re: default MTA

2013-05-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:24:27PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 28 mai 2013 à 13:07 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : The local MTA serves as a common configuration for the external SMTP server, with a well known interface supported by every single package which wants to send mail.

Re: default MTA

2013-05-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 05:58:15PM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote: I was going to say that by default, this mail was sent to root, but checked before I typed and... what? I do have unread local mail!? Just to say: at the moment, there's no obvious notification about local mail. In addition, it

Re: optimizing PNGs

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:04:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: On Wed, 29 May 2013, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Bastien ROUCARIES roucaries.bast...@gmail.com wrote: not sure about svgz... On a typical svg file: -rw-r--r-- 1 bastien bastien 452K mai 28

Re: default MTA

2013-05-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:11:35PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 29 mai 2013 à 16:31 +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino a écrit : Take for example, smartmoontools [1]. Currently, if an end-user installs smartmoontools and a hard-disk fails (i.e. smartd detects a problem with

Re: x32 ???half??? arrived??? now what?

2013-06-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 11:27:15AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 10:23:14AM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: tglase@tglase:~ $ fgrep X32 /boot/config-3.9-1-amd64 # CONFIG_X86_X32 is not set See http://wiki.debian.org/X32Port and

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