Bug#349064: ITP: flash-plugin -- installer for Macromedia Flash Plugin

2006-01-20 Thread Bart Martens
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: flash-plugin Version : 7.0.61.1 Upstream Author : Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://members.chello.be/ws35943/flash-plugin/ * License : GPL Description

Re: Bug#349064: ITP: macromedia-flash-installer -- installer for Macromedia Flash Plugin

2006-01-30 Thread Bart Martens
. Would an NMU be appropriate now ? Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

cflow: replace upstream part by GNU cflow

2006-02-18 Thread Bart Martens
Hello, I want to replace the upstream part of cflow by GNU cflow. Any comments on that are welcome on this bug report : http://bugs.debian.org/353192 Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#355333: ITP: open-cobol -- COBOL compiler

2006-03-04 Thread Bart Martens
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] I intend to package open-cobol. * Package name: open-cobol Version : 0.32 Upstream Author : Keisuke Nishida [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.opencobol.org/ * License : GPL, LGPL

please on-topic messages (Re: Sun Java available from non-free)

2006-06-04 Thread Bart Martens
discussion? Does it work towards a real solution for the issue being discussed? Have I read all previous messages of the subject so that my message doesn't repeat what's already said? And so on. Thanks, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Bug#380468: ITP: phpunit2 -- Unit testing suite for PHP5

2006-07-30 Thread Bart Martens
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: phpunit2 Version : 2.3.6 Upstream Author : Sebastian Bergmann * URL : http://pear.php.net/package/PHPUnit2 * License : BSD Programming Lang: php Description : Unit

Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-02 Thread Bart Martens
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: reniced Version : 1.5 Upstream Author : Christian Garbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.cgarbs.de/stuff.en.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: Perl Description

Re: Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions

2006-08-02 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 23:04 +0200, Nacho Barrientos Arias wrote: Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:28:16 +0200 Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bart, * Package name: reniced Version : 1.5

Re: Let’ s turn DEP5 into something useful

2009-06-13 Thread Bart Martens
-readable debian/copyright. The program licensecheck in package devscripts is a good start to find licenses. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: BTS and the missing 'invalid' tag

2009-06-21 Thread Bart Martens
nothing to fix. +1 I'm curious to know how other maintainers have addressed such cases in BTS. A workarond is using the tag wontfix combined with retitling the bug to something general like confusion about foo doing bar. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ

how to request help for bugs (Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs)

2007-02-28 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 09:20 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:46:11PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: (and hopefully this madness will now stop) We all know everyone can triage/patch/... whatever bug in the BTS. Yes of course. Still, if some team feels they are

who forwards bugs to upstream (Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs)

2007-02-28 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 09:35 +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070227 20:46]: You've read this correctly! Starting TEN YEARS AGO, we are in permanent bug triaging, bug forwarding, but patching party on ALL bugs, pick one before it's too late! You may

Re: how to request help for bugs (Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs)

2007-02-28 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 08:51 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:39:54AM +0100, Bart Martens wrote: For a general call/cry for help for packages with many bugs, I would submit an RFH, RFA or O before the number of bugs becomes uncomfortable. Of course

many rejects (Re: Second call for votes for the debian project leader election 2007)

2007-03-27 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 07:43 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: The relation between Rejects and Voters is currently the highest we ever had. I'm just asking whether we need some technical improvement here because I personally add a count of three to the rejects and have no idea how to vote

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 11:31 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: * 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote: I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the results. Isn't this a violation of user's privacy? If

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 10:39 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: However, changing the popcon debconf question to something like the following might be an acceptable compromise: Would you like to participate in the Debian package popularity contest meter? Blah blah blah. You may also

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 17:32 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:22:37 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: dmidecode output is a big problem. It includes machine UUID and serial numbers. Yes. Perhaps we only want to collect a subset of that information, or at least

Re: Shouldn't [EMAIL PROTECTED] be more liberal on accepting mail?

2007-04-12 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 02:21 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Looks like with current setup, [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not accept mail from domain that does not exist for the outside world. This looks suboptimal for me: why not accept all mail that looks like a popcon report? I know that

packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian

2007-05-01 Thread Bart Martens
want to watch these pages to select packages to sponsor: http://people.debian.org/~bartm/borg/needssponsor.html http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist More information on the Utnubu subproject can be found here: http://wiki.debian.org/Utnubu Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian (reduced false positives)

2007-05-01 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 11:49 +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-01 11:21]: Another approach for identifying packages to be updated in Debian to newer upstream releases is by comparing Debian with Ubuntu. Here is a list of packages that are newer

wxwidgets2.8 (Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian)

2007-05-01 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 21:28 +0200, Adam Cécile (Le_Vert) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bart Martens a écrit : Hi Package Maintainers (DD's and non-DD's), Now that Etch is released to stable, many package maintainers have already updated their packages

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian (reduced false positives)

2007-05-01 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 20:36 +0200, Luca Capello wrote: Hello! On Tue, 01 May 2007 14:02:16 +0200, Bart Martens wrote: I have updated the list to hide packages with identical upstream version numbers but with different epochs. This might hide some real positives but most likely hides

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian (reduced false positives)

2007-05-04 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 23:16 -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Bart Martens] I've thought about adding an column for the versions in experimental, but that is not a high priority to me because this does not change that Debian Unstable is outdated for the listed packages. Uh ... I thought

Re: Bug#422137: ITP: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 -- l33t h4x0r numb3r

2007-05-06 Thread Bart Martens
. It should be 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0, right? You might want to fix that, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian

2007-05-10 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 12:16 +0200, Bart Martens wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 11:57 +0200, Bart Martens wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 11:49 +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-01 11:21]: Another approach for identifying packages to be updated in Debian

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian (reduced false positives)

2007-05-10 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 08:14 +0200, Bart Martens wrote: On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 23:16 -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Bart Martens] I've thought about adding an column for the versions in experimental, but that is not a high priority to me because this does not change that Debian Unstable

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian (reduced false positives)

2007-05-10 Thread Bart Martens
/~bartm/borg/outdated.html [2] http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian (reduced false positives)

2007-05-10 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 18:07 +1000, Paul Wise wrote: On 5/10/07, Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should be better now. http://people.debian.org/~bartm/borg/outdated.html Excellent. For even more usefulness points, this could be integrated into qa.d.o/developer.php - perhaps

Re: packages newer in Ubuntu than in Debian

2007-05-10 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 19:47 +0200, Amir Tabatabaei wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 08:01 +0200, Bart Martens wrote: Should be better now. If you still see false positives, then I'm very interested. There is no gaim in unstable any more, but its renamed to pidgin. At this moment gaim

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-27 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 13:31 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:58:54PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:20:53PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Saturday 26 May 2007 23:07, Pierre Habouzit wrote: and the debian-www team is recovering from the

cvs commit access to webwml files (Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams)

2007-05-30 Thread Bart Martens
and I haven't heard a single complaint up to now. So consider this a +1 for me to get write access to all DD by default in our website. I agree with giving cvs commit access to the webwml files to all DD's, or, to encourage all DD's to request that access. Regards, Bart Martens I would

Re: List of (un)sponsored packages on Mentors (approximate)

2007-07-23 Thread Bart Martens
, - with a newer version at Mentors than in Debian unstable, - with an ITP or ITA. So this list does not include packages with RFS messages on debian-mentors. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

use of Uploaders: field for team maintained packages

2007-10-20 Thread Bart Martens
reflects who's caring about the packages. Other opinions? Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-02 Thread Bart Martens
: line with a count of overrides per package by default and provide an option to suppress this output if someone wants. * Don't show the N: line by default and provide an option to turn it on. Which should we do? I prefer the second option. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Proposed consensus: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-05 Thread Bart Martens
consistent with the sentiments on the thread to everyone? No objection from me. Thanks for asking debian-devel for opinions. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is Davide Puricelli MIA?

2008-01-08 Thread Bart Martens
not MIA (I still read -devel and I follow the project life), but you're right, I'm not really active in the packages field. I'm planning to update chicken in upcoming days, luckily it's not a huge work, while I just asked Bart Martens to help me to comaintain xchat. I can confirm that Davide

let's not yet hijack this package (Re: Intend to hijack xchat-xsys)

2008-03-12 Thread Bart Martens
. And, yes, that's a long time, giving the impression that the maintainer is no longer interested, or at least temporarily not active. solving two bugs more listened on BTS. If you have fixes for existing bugs in the bts, then please post the fixes to the bts. Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc

Re: packages up for adoption

2008-05-22 Thread Bart Martens
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll no longer be maintaining the following packages. I plan to orphan them next week and hope to find new maintainers for them before then. aalib I'll adopt aalib. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: packages up for adoption

2008-05-22 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 13:36 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Bart Martens wrote: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll no longer be maintaining the following packages. I plan to orphan them next week and hope to find new maintainers for them before then. aalib I'll adopt aalib

Re: tarball in tarball: opinions

2008-07-05 Thread Bart Martens
use the packaging style conforming to debian-policy that you feel most comfortable with. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#384820: ITP: artphotos -- Photos of art works

2006-08-26 Thread Bart Martens
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: artphotos Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Gert Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.gertmartens.be/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: none Description

Re: Two questions on package quality

2006-12-16 Thread Bart Martens
the .orig.tar.gz without modifications was already uploaded. Hope this helps, Bart Martens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts

2007-02-11 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 09:22 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:40:31PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:54:56 -0600, Jon Marler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a question ... How do I keep my Debian maintainer status if I

Re: MIA check: Patrick Winnertz

2012-05-26 Thread Bart Martens
November 2011: http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lustre/news/2016T130707Z.html Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120527044513.gb10

Re: pre-MIA quest for Patrick Winnertz (winnie-at-d.o)

2012-05-31 Thread Bart Martens
Patrick Winnertz is not MIA. It would be nice to get some feedback from Patrick Winnertz about this. First priority is to fix the FTBFS bug 671489. If you intend to update italc to the newest upstream release, then please retitle bug 672636 to an intention to NMU. Regards, Bart Martens

Re: duplicates in the archive

2012-06-24 Thread Bart Martens
opinion, not always possible to judge the potential of a package before it has been in Debian for some time. Having competing alternatives in Debian is OK, even good, in my opinion. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: duplicates in the archive

2012-06-24 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 08:48:48PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:45:54 + Bart Martens ba...@debian.org wrote: About allowing new packages in Debian in general : On the one hand you have a point that Debian should not collect any free software, but on the other

Re: duplicates in the archive

2012-06-24 Thread Bart Martens
, then 43 is acceptable, in my opinion. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120624204843.ga22...@master.debian.org

Re: duplicates in the archive

2012-06-25 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:18:00PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:48:43 + Bart Martens ba...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:21:39PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 24 juin 2012 à 20:42 +0200, Arno Töll a écrit : What makes 42 window

Re: duplicates in the archive

2012-06-25 Thread Bart Martens
criticism. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120625070555.gc17...@master.debian.org

Re: Improving our response to duplicate packages in Debian

2012-06-28 Thread Bart Martens
on the maintenance of the mentioned package. Anyone can do the effort to find good reasons to object against the ITP, and that is OK, in my opinion. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Improving our response to duplicate packages in Debian

2012-06-28 Thread Bart Martens
. But this impression may be colored by the fact that I happen to agree with what Guus wrote. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120629052845

Re: Concerns and Challenges of Squeeze and Ongoing Elements

2012-07-03 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 08:50:20PM -0400, John L. Males wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ladies and Gentlemen, I replied to John in detail via a private e-mail. Summary : I suggested John to report every problem via bug reports. Regards, Bart Martens

Re: Hijacking packages for fun and profit BoF at DebConf

2012-07-21 Thread Bart Martens
of packages in Debian. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120721065147.gb21...@master.debian.org

Re: Hijacking packages for fun and profit BoF at DebConf

2012-07-21 Thread Bart Martens
. And the maintainer does not respond within one month after the the third second. Comments ? Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org

intent to orphan zynaddsubfx

2012-07-26 Thread Bart Martens
for 6m; left only only zynaddsubfx Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120727055804.gb29...@master.debian.org

Re: intent to orphan zynaddsubfx

2012-07-27 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:01:08AM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote: Hi, On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Bart Martens ba...@debian.org wrote: Hello, I intend to orphan zynaddsubfx. Before doing that I invite two additional DD's to confirm that they agree with this intent with ma

Re: Some doubts about patching

2012-07-28 Thread Bart Martens
a bug without signature. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120728094825.gf6...@master.debian.org

support request (Re: volume control not working:debian 6.0.4)

2012-09-09 Thread Bart Martens
://www.debian.org/support Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120910054854.ga1...@master.debian.org

Re: mass bug filing about packages with empty /usr/share/doc/$package/ (no copyright file)?

2012-09-16 Thread Bart Martens
, - snap -- Looks like a good start for the bug reports. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org

Re: mass bug filing about packages with empty /usr/share/doc/$package/ (no copyright file)?

2012-09-16 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 01:57:04PM +, Bart Martens wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 03:12:09PM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: I'm afraid I don't have the time right now to thoroughly analyze these logs and report all the bugs, so some help would be welcome. I'm offering help, but only

Re: mass bug filing about packages with empty /usr/share/doc/$package/ (no copyright file)?

2012-09-21 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 02:35:40PM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: On 2012-09-16 18:36, Bart Martens wrote: I'm offering help, but only for part of the work : I could write a perl script that periodically scans the logfiles and submits additional bugs. I have written that script, and I

dm upload permissions

2012-09-28 Thread Bart Martens
or Uploaders. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120928085341.gb8...@master.debian.org

Re: Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal

2012-09-28 Thread Bart Martens
of the salvaging fits in the existing procedures. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120928175223.ga2...@master.debian.org

Re: Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal

2012-09-30 Thread Bart Martens
them on -qa sounds like a good idea to me. Can you elaborate on that side-effect ? I don't understand that part. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Re: Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal

2012-10-01 Thread Bart Martens
packages. We probably will allow them to salvage packages OTOH. (And that's totally non-bizarre IMHO.) I agree with Holger Levsen on this. And the seconding I'm proposing is obviously to have DDs (maybe also DMs ?) judge between an unwanted hijack and a welcome salvage. Regards, Bart Martens

Re: Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal

2012-10-10 Thread Bart Martens
updated text above. I'm looking forward to a consensus. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121011055051.gb5...@master.debian.org

Re: Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal

2012-10-14 Thread Bart Martens
maximum duration do you suggest ? I agree that the expiration would raise the questions you mentioned, to be looked at package per package. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal

2012-10-14 Thread Bart Martens
previous message.) I don't think we should introduce voting on the quality of other DD's package maintenance. Actually I don't see any problem with peer reviews. As long as the quality of the packages is discussed, with respect for all people involved. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal

2012-10-14 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:27:03AM +0200, Arno Töll wrote: Hi, On 11.10.2012 07:50, Bart Martens wrote: - the submitter of the intent to orphan bug must Cc debian...@lists.debian.org, and file the bug with severity:serious (this was part of the criterias proposal). | Anyone

Re: Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal

2012-10-14 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 08:20:36AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 11/10/12 at 05:50 +, Bart Martens wrote: And the maintainer does not respond within one month after the the third second. I'm not sure about this delay. This procedure should be used for uncontroversial cases, where

Re: Hijacking^W^W^W^W^W^WSalvaging packages for fun and profit: A proposal

2012-10-14 Thread Bart Martens
the point of waiting an extra month. I don't know where to look for such signal for non-DDs. I think that we should still allow one month delay in less obvious cases. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Bart Martens
] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/10/msg00158.html [4] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/10/msg00199.html [5] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/10/msg00261.html [6] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/10/msg00242.html Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-23 Thread Bart Martens
attention. I agree with Steve on this. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121024035534.ga20...@master.debian.org

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-24 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 02:59:09PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 10/24/2012 11:55 AM, Bart Martens wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 01:40:16PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: I fear a bit the situation nobody care enough to comment, being interpreted as lack of consensus. But I do think

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-24 Thread Bart Martens
is neither easy, nor efficient. The proposed text is quite easy, in my opinion. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121024162732.gc21

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-25 Thread Bart Martens
the hard part. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121026050907.gb10...@master.debian.org

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-25 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 01:50:10PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: Bart Martens ba...@debian.org writes: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 01:58:16PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 02:40:39PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: 4. When

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-25 Thread Bart Martens
easy to find a consensus on. The real salvaging (the hard work) happens via the existing ITA procedure. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - delay for maintainer to react

2012-10-25 Thread Bart Martens
://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/10/msg00261.html Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121026055602.ge10...@master.debian.org

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - need for sufficient ACKs

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
join Steve L. with wanting a consensus, so the package can be orphaned only when there are sufficient ACKs. I expect the cc to debian-qa to draw sufficient attention from DDs, so I don't expect any problem with this. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - without objection versus requiring ACKs

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
a consensus in a shorter time, so that for obvious cases the salvaging can proceed without pointless delay. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - skipping pointless delay

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
? The proposal includes collecting ACKs so that any pointless delay can be skipped, resulting in the package being salvaged sooner. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - getting orphaned packages marked as such

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
the above with s/developer/person/. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121026063112.gi10...@master.debian.org

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - only for obvious cases

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
. It's quite another to say this package is in need of attention but I'm not going to do anything other than say it's a problem. It is, in my opinion, also useful to identify problems even without solving the problems. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - maintainer's objection

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
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Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - liberal NMUs

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
unmaintained packages as orphaned. If you want NMUs to be more liberal, then please write a proposal for modifying the NMU procedure and feel free to discuss it in a separate thread. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - sponsoring

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
easier to sponsor. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121026071211.gm10...@master.debian.org

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - goal

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 04:12:03PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 10/26/2012 01:09 PM, Bart Martens wrote: I expect the cc to debian-qa to draw sufficient DD's attention. And the ACKs are about agreeing on marking a package as orphaned. That's the easy part. The salvaging part goes via

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - need for ACKs, default no orphaning

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 09:59:16AM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: Bart Martens ba...@debian.org writes: I think that sufficient DDs will review the ITOs. Note that most work is already done by the ITO submitter. Sponsoring a package at mentors (review other peoples work) is, in my

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - no ACKs nor NACKs, timeout, defaulting to no

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
to it, which the current proposal doesn't.) I would not object against including this in the text. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - maintainer's objection

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 01:58:55PM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le 26/10/2012 08:46, Bart Martens a écrit : On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:45:21PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu wrote: AIUI, with the current proposal, as long as three DDs think it should

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages - full maintainer without restrictions

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
be orphaned, so that a new contributor can become full package maintainer without any restrictions on the allowed changes. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: [SUMMARY/PROPOSAL] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
cases it will lead to a pointless delay. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121027041826.ga5...@master.debian.org

Re: [PROPOSAL v2] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-27 Thread Bart Martens
, and to submit ITA-bugs for packages he/she wishes to salvage. Sounds revolutionary, but in reality this is more or less already happening. Thoughts ? Comments ? Am I overlooking something ? Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: [PROPOSAL v2] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-31 Thread Bart Martens
? Sometimes there are good reasons to not package a newer upstream release, see for example bugs 672568 and 687690. Sometimes the maintainer is simply gone, see for example bug 671890. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: [PROPOSAL v2] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-11-01 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 07:16:56PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Bart Martens wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 09:32:40AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: How to solve the following problem: Assume a package with wishlist bugs filed lagging behind upstream

Re: [PROPOSAL v2] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-11-01 Thread Bart Martens
patch, because they can be expected to be more aware | of potential issues which an NMUer might miss. It is often a better use of | everyone's time if the maintainer is given an opportunity to upload a fix on | their own. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel

Re: [PROPOSAL v2] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-11-02 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 07:10:06PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Bart Martens wrote: On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 06:41:24PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: Maybe an example will help get us on the same page. Russ seems to have the impression that my proposal

Re: [PROPOSAL v2] Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-11-02 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 01:58:28PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:48 AM, Bart Martens wrote: wine: http://bugs.debian.org/585409 (new upstream pushed via nmu) This is a good example where talking helped to gather all views on all aspects from all involved people

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