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> On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 10:20 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > =
> > $ PACKAGE=mercurial
> >
> > $ dpkg-query -W -f 'Version: ${Version}\n' $PACKAGE
> > Version: 1.4.1-1+b1
> >
> > $ zcat /usr/sha
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> explicit as to why you think it's relevant here, or refrain from the Cc.
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> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:39:35PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > > A little time after DebConf excitement has calmed down, I would
> > > still like to see answers, in the public record, from the ftpmasters
> >
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> > A little time after DebConf excitement has calmed down, I would
> > still like to see answers, in the public record, from the ftpmasters
> > on this issue.
>
> I am not an f
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> > This seems like an ideal use for debtags. No?
>
> It doesn't to me. The whole point of debtags is that it's
> crowd-edited, but whether a package is a metapackage should be under
> the direct control of the package m
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> # Current version from Cheese Shop.
> opts="uversionmangle=s/-([a-z]+\d+)$/~$1/" \
> http://zhevny.com/specimen/files/specimen-(.+).tar.gz
Erm. Ignore the comment line; clearly I cut-and-paste from one of my own
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> > says that "make -f debian/rules" and "./debian/rules" must behave
> > identically, to prevent confusion, and to promo
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> > > I agree with Charles: this is unncessary, unproductive busy-work.
> >
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"Dario Minnucci (midget)" writes:
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> [snip]
>
> > When I look at the ‘copyright’ file for that package
> > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/python-daemon/python-daemon_1.4.6-1/copyright>,
> > it doesn't mat
Robert Collins writes:
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> > the package as originally uploaded had copyright notices preserved
> > in the source, but not duplicated into the ‘copyright’ file.
>
> Your experience seems to be covered by
> http:/
file. Exactly what is it that needs to be in the copyright file
for ftpmaster to accept it, and what is the reasoning for that beyond
what is in Debian Policy?
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> for “Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo ”?
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> > A minor point: If we're going to refer to the standard for these
> > fields, then RFC 2822 is obsoleted by the current draft standard,
> > RFC 5322 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322>.
>
> Sha
Origin’ field was recommended (or even required?)
for every patch by this specification. What would an appropriate value
for this field be in this example?
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> > Perhaps a good way to point it out on an ongoing basis would be a
> > central clearing house for “specific teams that a newcomer should
> > consider joining”. Is there such a
”. Is there such a list (and where is it maintained)?
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> > Yet a package of a plugin should surely have a ‘Depends’
> > relationship to the application package. Adding an ‘Enhances’
> > relationship seems redundant in that case.
>
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> > I assume we expect man pages to conform to the conventions in
> > ‘man-pages(7)’.
(I've now been disabused of that assumption.)
> I'm not sure we can have that expectation. If yo
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> > First of all, non-unified diffs are called "context diffs"
>
> Not necessarily. I've been using the term to reply to *any* diff output
> format that isn't unified-diff format.
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> > The point, rather, seems to be that unified-diff format is the de
> > facto standard format for exchanging patch information.
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> Le Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:53:21AM +
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>
> I don't know anyone making the argument that there should *never* be a
> mandatory machi
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actieved) and trying to get many people using it for their packages
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> The one reason to include this information in debian/copyright is that
> the packagers may be copyright holders for contents under Debian.
[…]
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> > more hairy. Is there prior art we can refer to?
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> Why not just use standard csv rules for this sort of thing, ie add
> q
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> > it needs to be changed to allow spaces in the patterns.
[…]
> > I would prefer to have a specification that allows the
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