On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 08:25 +1030, Ron wrote:
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 08:12:44PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
Why would you install gdb on a (non-development) system, rather than a
gdb stub?
Maybe I'm missing something cool and obvious here, but in the particular
case this came to my
this will be of benefit to far more people than
the number who'll need python scripts to use gdb. Am I?
Really, what am I missing here?
What you're missing is that gdb's scripting facilities were pathetic,
and Python integration finally fixes that.
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Automated build and test
This might be a useful tool in the future and work is ongoing.
Don't know.
Experimental
Some upload experimental uploads of the 2.6.31 version will be made.
Done, but irrelevant now.
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This has been a deprecated kernel interface for some time and will be
disabled for squeeze
Done.
with mechanisms put in place to deal
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 19:39 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:50:22PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 17:22 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
Hi,
Now that we have a 2.6.32 kernel in unstable, can you updates us
on the various things mentioned
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 01:51 +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
Ben Hutchings wrote:
Currently you can install kernel images from unstable or backports
without any extra dependencies. I'm not aware of any significant
breakage though some packages may rely on deprecated and removed stuff
in procfs
are finished with major changes to 2.6.32 (such as the libata
transition) the ABI version will change from 'trunk' to '1' and we will
then try to avoid unnecessary ABI changes.
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I trust you have filed bugs on these applications?
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(or Xen) with QEMU.
2) I believe KVM needs CPU support, and this is not yet available on all
modern computers.
It does require virtualisation extensions, but most x86 processors sold in
the last few years have them.
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SLES 11 with 2.6.27). As a
result, the xen-flavour kernels for lenny are very buggy, particularly
for domains with multiple vCPUs (though that *may* be fixed now).
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Kernel people, should I change it?
ver=$(echo $pkg | sed -nr
s/^.*linux-image-(2\.6\.[0-9]+)-[0-9]+-.*_.*_.*\.deb$/\1/p)
Please do. We won't use 'trunk' in an actual release but it will be
helpful to people using testing.
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, there is
no sign of a patch for 2.6.32, nor any schedule like it happened
to be for Lenny).
I expect that it will be released after the first beta of RHEL 6.
[...]
I believe there already has been a beta, just not a public one. RH
seems to be very secretive about this release.
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this and system administrators can make their own choice.
There is some ongoing work on enhanced TCP cookies, but it will not be
available for squeeze.
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On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 18:24 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
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I'm going to agree with Bastian here. Single-user systems won't need
this and system administrators can make their own choice.
I do not really disagree with your argument, but can
for those architectures yourself.
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* Something everyone should have - reassign to the kernel
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some of our buildds are also on the slow end of an ADSL line and would
have the same problem.
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? If so, what should they use?
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I would discourage use of the xen-flavour in lenny.
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Someone already had the idea though they didn't get very far with it:
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On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 00:01 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
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I think there's a good case for
including it in the 'laptop' task, but not in the standard system
(desktops and servers generally don't need
of this command that hurt performance.
* EDAC on the amd64 platform has had many fixes, allowing monitoring
and control of EEC ram. Pre-2.6.33 kernels don't support EDAC at all
on many common systems.
Might be possible to backport.
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on the mirrors, but they are there.
Not that you'll be able to verify most of them, since the keyring only
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On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 13:33 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
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On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 12:03 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
The primary problem with using OpenSSL with OpenLDAP is NSS and PAM
modules, which pull the libraries into just about any GPL'd
2.6.26 and higher, but the 2.6.32
kernel fails a config check (Cgroup memory controller).
[...]
See bug #534964.
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ipv6
This bug affects support for Internet Protocol version 6.
This is *not* the same as the release goal, which is about fixing
networking programs that don't support IPv6 at all. Many of these bugs
should not be release-critical.
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squeeze.
[2] Mostly successfully.
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It is not ignored; the standard was updated by RFC 1123 (STD 3).
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On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 00:39 +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:35:33PM +0100, Yann Dirson wrote:
[...]
But I'm not aware of a git tree holding the debian kernels - SVN is
still listed as the VCS for the linux-2.6 package (which, BTW,
continues to surprise me).
It's
conflating 'works with this device' and
'recommended on systems with this device'.
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functions that can benefit from SIMD extensions and that
automatically select the right version at run-time. Perhaps this
package can use that?
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the possibility to use a FreeBSD kernel.
Then the Debian FreeBSD maintainers should fix this in their kernel.
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never have to answer any
questions when it installs build-dependencies. This also applies
when you use 'pbuilder login', and that is why he did not see the
debconf questions he was expecting.
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to and only useful for their hardware? I've never understood
this. Perhaps it's something the lawyers put in by default.)
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On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 18:51 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 06:06:45PM -0500, Edward Allcutt wrote:
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good reasons to use them (for example the relatime mount
option), but we should be wary of doing so.
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packages that are named using the suffix '-686' or
'-i686', and their descriptions explain what this means:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-2.6.32-4-686
http://packages.debian.org/sid/libc6-i686
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It must be 'i386'.
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aren't you talking to ftp-master about this, or using the
alternative suggested in http://bugs.debian.org/575361#10?
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. As an example, see
what I do in dvswitch to work with different ffmpeg versions:
http://git.debian.org/?p=dvswitch/dvswitch.git;a=blob;f=src/avcodec_wrap.h;hb=master
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Environment variables do not override variable definitions in a makefile.
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On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 19:33 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/2010 03:28 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 21:14 +0200, Felix Geyer wrote:
clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago.
The FTP assistent that processed the package was of the
opinion
acceptance. I suggest you don't waste your time trying to do that.
Can anyone see any downside?
Aside from a surprising change that will lead to security holes, no,
none at all.
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bootloader in their script.
Can't lilo provide a script here ?
It could, but that should be redundant in squeeze since update-initramfs
already runs lilo.
This appears to be a problem in lenny, where by default neither the
kernel postinst nor the initramfs builder runs lilo.
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On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 14:00 +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jun 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 13:39 +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote:
On 07/06/2010 17:37, Stephen Powell wrote:
But for a kernel install or reconfigure, it is the responsibility of the
kernel
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there are any upgrade issues
I have not addressed.
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On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 22:19 +, Colin Watson wrote:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 03:02:35AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
1. Packages for boot loaders that need to be updated whenever the files
they load are modified (i.e. those that store a block list) must install
hook scripts in /etc/kernel
Please reply to debian-kernel only.
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 11:16 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:02:35 -0400 (EDT), Ben Hutchings wrote:
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The environment variable DEB_MAINT_PARAMS will contain
the arguments given to the kernel maintainer script, single-quoted
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 18:45 +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
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please get your facts right before spamming the world.
Max, this is rude and unjustified.
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echo 64 /proc/sys/kernel/tainted
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is a nasty hack that makes various features impossible, and
it is too much work to maintain both models.
And with my present hardware, nv appears to be my only viable solution.
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I would think almost all init scripts depend on /dev and /proc! Certainly
start-stop-daemon uses them. But only init scripts in rcS.d need to
explicitly depend on these, and they should presumably depend on
$mountkernfs (if not on $local_fs).
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, but
currently a kernel update can easily leave the system unbootable and
this did need to be addressed before release.
A later version of this policy may also cover FreeBSD and GNU Mach
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its
module has not been installed for the default Python version. But I
agree that there is no need for Pre-Depends.
I also wonder whether a distribution package of dkms really needs to use
lsb_release at all.
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On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 17:03 +, Philipp Kern wrote:
On 2010-07-17, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
The postinst for nvidia-kernel-dkms invokes dkms, which invokes
lsb_release. lsb_release hasn't been configured at this point so its
module has not been installed for the default
with a 2.6.32-4-amd64 kernel everything worked correctly.
I'm not sure whether this is a bug in the kernel or kvm - maybe bugs in both.
Any suggestions for what I should do to debug this?
You know we have a BTS, right? It tracks... bugs... such as #588426.
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commercial distributions.
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desktop task.
Yes, if it supports bug scripts properly now.
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 23:50:36 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
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and b.) IMHO reportbug-ng should be installed by the default
desktop task.
Yes, if it supports bug scripts properly now
should
consider only the latest version of each binary package available in the
suite.
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On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 09:27 +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
Hi!
* Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk [100804 04:42]:
http://edos.debian.net/edos-debcheck/results/unstable/latest/every/list.php
I think some of these are old versions of arch:all packages that for
some reason
the draft release notes for the next release.
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On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 21:01 -0400, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk (09/08/2010):
This information belongs in the release notes. I'm not sure where
one should look to see the draft release notes for the next release.
Sounds like it?
http://www.debian.org
need to worry
about the minority of cases where autodetection fails.
PDFs have titles too, and they can't be snarfed in any way I know of.
[...]
pdfinfo from poppler-utils can show the title.
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There is a convention for git of adding the branch name as a fragment
identifier, e.g.:
git://foo.bar.org/meow#debian
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user-specific log file and write to that instead.
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Use nested subdirectories to specify multiple flags. The library in the
most specific directory (i.e. the one which selects the most flags, all
satisfied by the current hardware) will be used.
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On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 01:52 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Ben Hutchings, le Wed 18 Aug 2010 00:07:58 +0100, a écrit :
The dynamic linker does the run-time selection for you. All you need to
do is to install the optimised libraries in subdirectories that specify
the hardware they require
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Please stop filing ITPs and concentrate on packages that should be
included in squeeze. The sooner squeeze is out, the sooner you can add
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treated specially. I expect
the DDPO maintainers would be happy to add links to other distributions'
bug trackers if they have per-package information. My understanding is
that Ubuntu is the only one that has such information that can be linked
to.
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There is no need for a seperate package.
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INIT INFO
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Clearly any installed name server should be started before
nfs-kernel-server, but that might not be bind9. I don't know how and
where the dependency should be specified.
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On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 04:15 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
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Clearly any installed name server should be started before
nfs-kernel-server, but that might not be bind9. I don't know how and
where the dependency should be specified.
Does
enhancements for domU in the default kernel images for squeeze.
In generic kernel, we can build in pv_ops support. If users want to
use Xen, just install xen core and configure GRUB， then they can run
Xen Dom0.
That's the plan.
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Why is that driver not in the standard kernel package?
Because it's not upstream. So the next question is, why is it not
upstream (in staging)?
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Because it's not upstream. So the next question is, why is it not
upstream (in staging)?
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though that is not yet an official service)
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to support it as an alternative. But since 0.5 is now specified
in that protocol then SPICE clients and servers will need to support it
for a long time to come.
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