f targets so large that this level of coordination is not
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> + conflicts against bar-studio-desktop
> + postinst script asks foo-player to use PulseAudio.
>
> How could such postinst scripts look?
Hi Jonas,
If the maintainer scripts of the three packages can cooperate, have you
considered using Dpk
ot migrate to testing. In the case of staden-io-lib, I took action to make
it
migrate, and it was cancelled by porters who wanted to fix a bug affecting their
architecture instead of having the package removed on that architecture. Thus,
I do spend time on my packages which do not migrate from un
ease pay attention that the
patch for #744664 has been applied and that the uploaded package is now in the
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them will need patching in the future. Please break the circle !
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be better to base them on Sid (or Jessie when appropriate, which would not be
the case here).
Or if you base your reports on Ubuntu, could you add a filter that checks
the version numbers and helps you to reduce the false positives ?
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o this message, as this tag is already in
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> Hi Guillem and everybody,
>
> I agree with your suggestions.
>
> If there are no further comments I will submit the media type after
> correcting the points below.
For the record, here is the latest version.
Hi Guillem and everybody,
I agree with your suggestions.
If there are no further comments I will submit the media type after
correcting the points below.
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>
> This still seems confusing, “Debian forma
hard-line point of view does not motivate and rather
leads people to give up.
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e preferred form for modification because they do not contain the
typical revision information and comments found in version control systems used
upstream. This was not the case when Debian was founded, but as the world
evolves, we need to evolve.
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le would not find it useful and would rather clone an upstream Git
repository than apt-get-sourcing the not-always latest source from our archive.
Therefore, more than ever, it is on the binary packages that we must commit on
the highest level. The upstream source tarball matters much less.
Cheers,
I would much prefer to resolve that issue before sending it.
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>
> > you already have commit access to the Debian Med packages, like all other
> > Debian developers. Please go ahead !
>
> There was adoption of DEP-
of software to
> deal with both path names.
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you already have commit access to the Debian Med packages, like all other
Debian developers. Please go ahead !
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a "native" package. It shows that there is no problem with the version number
indicating one thing and the source format indicating another one. So please
revert your change, which solves no practical problems.
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e concerned about is moving the files in the repositories,
> I'll gladly do that.
When will you start and when do you plan to finish ? Just do it please.
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Can you clarify whether you will lead the transition, or whether you found
somebody elese to do it, or what your plan is if you do not find somebody to do
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do the work then let's create
pages under https://wiki.debian.org/Debate and take a ticket to the TC.
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in the 3.0 (native) format to use non-native version
number.
Alternatively, please rename the "3.0 (native)" format to "3.0 (tarball)" or
anything elese, and we are done.
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not see the point for forbidding to use non-"native" version numbers with
"non-native" dpkg formats.
The 3.0 (native) format is useful when packaging a work that is developped and
distributed in a Git repository. Please leave us this
oking at other records, I do not think it is necessary.
I attached again a plain version of the media type declaration.
To everybody: please not that the debian-policy mailing list is indicated as a
contact point; please let me know if you think it is a bad idea.
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> I'm not sure that frontends are usually started when downloading raw
> .debs from the net, though.
Indeed, with Epiphany browser or Chrome, no front-end is proposed despite the
media type is indicated in the HTTP headers. I consider it a bug. With
Iceweasel, it worked.
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ast a few hours to see if members of the relevant team have something
original to say ?
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is type:
None.
Magic number(s):
Files usually start with the following string:
!
File extension(s):
deb
Macintosh file type code(s):
None.
Object Identifier(s) or OID(s):
None.
Intended usage:
Common
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I would like to help processing the NEW queue.
You can see at the following URL some of the reviews that I did in the past as
part of my "peer review" proposal.
- https://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReview
-
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=one-copyright-review;use
there is a new member
in the FTP team ?
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Hello everybody,
the use of autopkgtest as documented in DEP 8 is taking momentum.
How about allowing a "Testsuite" field to replace the "XS-Testsuite" field?
If people like the idea, I can send a patch to dpkg if needed.
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ible is something that is easy to
be done. But not if the emails finish by things like "in the meantime, we have
deleted your documentation from our packages".
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(https://wiki.debian.org/debian/upstream), which is quite un-leveraged for the
moment but could be an efficient way to lead our users to the Upstream donation
pages.
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uture, I recommend to better organise the work of the FTP team. Have
you considered using a public tracking system like in Fedora ?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Review_Process
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So, FTP team, please take your decision and let's close this story.
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need to try to do the impossible.
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bugs such as http://bugs.debian.org/623384.
I will most probably remove /usr/bin/view from mime-support, but just in case,
I would like to hear if some people are strongly relying on it.
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application/vnd.debian.binary or application/vnd.debian.binary-package.
Any thoughts, comments, or volunteers ?
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Package: wnpp
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Hello everybody,
I intend to package the HTSlib, that some existing packages (samtools,
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Package name: htslib
Version : 0.2
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lintian
> override?
The solution is to the change Policy :)
See http://bugs.debian.org/190753 for more discussion.
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> On Saturday, October 26, 2013 10:45:55 Charles Plessy wrote:
> >
> > Conflict of interest is not a judgement on a person. It is a judgement
> > about a situation, and a recommendation on how systematically react,
> > without making exceptions.
Le Fri, Oct 25, 2013
C services.
Dear all,
are there Debian Developers seconding or objecting to this new virtual package
name ?
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I also think that it is premature to make a decision without seeing the
final implementations working.
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avoided, etc. If on the other hand it wins to all other options, you will have
learned for yourself, at the expense of the other developers, that your
understanding of the situation was wrong, which is still less bad than being
left with "further discussion" only.
Currentl
ke it a lot, and would be extremely disapointed if in the
future I can not have it anymore because regular fingerpointing and accusation
would be driving out people who undertake a such a heavy task as maintaining a
destkop environment.
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i-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=582109#209
I plan a Policy update by the end of October, and my gut feeling is that if by
that time, peple stay silent on the issue, the work will go straight in the
dust bin. I am of course happy to delay a bit the update if one needs more time
to review the patches.
Cheer
th the Field::Biology tag. If you are interested I would be
willing to inspect the corner cases (such as mencal ?), in order to devise a
better filter for listing the packages related to biology and bioinformatics to
skip on m68k, and other low-power architectures if their porters are intersted.
Le Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 05:30:12PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> The attached patch is a third attempt, which underlines that the Built-Using
> field is particularly useful when a given package, contributing contents
> included in another package, can not be replaced by a later
everybody's help to pick one and resolve it is more than welcome !
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removals (and the automated "autopkg"
testing) are a big step forward. Let me take this opportunity to thank to the
Release team for this !
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later version. It also
explains that the Debian archive uses the Built-Using field to retain source
packages.
What do you think about it ?
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>From ee6c716663bbd8652b96e7e53743bf0e1e276003 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Charles Ple
side.
https://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/DebianMenuUsingDesktopEntries#Parallel_between_Menu_and_Desktop_entries
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, it makes the work easier for some and harder for others; let's see in
a couple of years what it means for Debian in terms of being a good platform
for R users. You already got a hint from one of Dirk's email: there is some
excellent work that is done outside Debian.
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riting something clear.
If my patch is a good start, could somebody improve it ?
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>From e61b6e81b923d4d39b5089e87e9cad02140d5cc9 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 21:21:25 +0900
Subject: [PATCH
Le Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:56:28AM +0200, Paul Wise a écrit :
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
>
> > do you think that the attached patch would solve the problem ?
>
> There are more reasons for using Built-Using than licenses, for example:
>
> Re
tag 688251 patch
thanks
Le Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 08:57:34AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> I would like to make the short-term clarification for the next revision of the
> Policy. In its simplest form, it could be the addition of something like
> "when
> the com
ics on the top of the list, to not do so in a
misleading way.
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else.
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bian.org/dgit-repos/repos/pv-grub-menu.git’ gives
‘warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.’
Do you think it is problems that are possible to solve ?
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ing like "when
the combination of licenses requires to keep all the sources", plus a footnote
informing that the case of the libc and libgcc are being investigated, and that
the current practice is to consider that we can benefit form their exception to
the GPL.
Please let us know your thou
it as such in your rejection message. Otherwise,
a policy about small packages would have been helpful.
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important to have at least a clear separation between the blocking issues and
the personal comments. In the case of pv-grub-menu, I am left with the
questions "What else shall I do that I have not tried yet ? How many weeks or
monthes shall I try before giving up", which will waste time on
Debian copyright file, please note
that a quick inspection of the package could have shown you that replacing the
current content of the Files field by "*" would have solved the problem
entirely. I will re-upload "when I have time".
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In some cases I found it quite useful. Have you considered integrating logs in
dgit ? In a somehow similar goal (finding difference between builds), have you
also considered committing the contents of the unpacked binary packages in
other branches ?
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Le Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 08:12:24AM +0200, Christian PERRIER a écrit :
> Quoting Charles Plessy (ple...@debian.org):
>
> > About display by GUIs, I think that we should have a system to install all
> > the
> > fonts necessary to display languages that we support at the in
characters that are not in ASCII.
See http://bugs.debian.org/701081 for further discussion.
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Le Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 02:51:52AM +0200, Adam Borowski a écrit :
>
> I would like to propose full UTF-8 support. I don't mean here full
> support for all of Unicode's finer points, merely complete eradication of
> mojibake.
Hi Adam,
this is a great goal. Here are two comments.
There is a rel
k that it is even better to
implement a versionned R API number.
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Le Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 08:29:14AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> While writing this answer, I also read Don's email advocating for Debian to
> take the lead and change the current practice in the R community, that prefers
> to ditribute data as R binary objects in the sourc
so that we can better decide if we
undertake the work at all.
Currently, my take would be to move packages to non-free. This would also
allow us to ship the PDF documentation that we currently delete.
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s decision and stick to it. But I
warn that it may have the consequence of moving most of them to non-free,
despite the data in binaryformat is freely modifiable or exportable to text
format with R, which is a Free software that we distribute.
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ome of the new pakcages that need to be introduced, which added a
long waiting period to the process. When they will be accepted in Debian,
ggplot2 will be updated a soon as possile.
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greetings and more "advices"...
In summary, I welcome the goal of increasing new contributions to Debian, but
recommend to pick a more casual name for your project.
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ter ? Bets are
funnier if there is a concrete consequence with both outcomes. How about
triaging 100 bugs of your choice for instance ?
The problem is that, if it is too cheap to predict bad things on that list and
be wrong, then the proportion of relevant messages on this list will
decrease...
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oud-final
121 sysvinit/cloud-init
121 sysvinit/cloud-init-local
Doesn't that underline that "classical" init scripts are a big waste of time
for maintainers, and a workload that can not be shared between distributions ?
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> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 08:24:30AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > How about simply replacing "should name the original authors" by "should
> > provide contact information for license questions&quo
d name the original authors" by "should
provide contact information for license questions" ?
I think that there is value to correct this point even if we can not define
precisely what should or must be in the Debian copyright file as a whole.
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licy being relaxed on that point
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bian copyright
files is optional, and the whole format is optional too. I recommend to use
debian/upstream instead, especially because the whole point of this file is to
provide a way to update metadata without uploading the package.
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packages are maintained.
http://upstream-metadata.debian.net/table/contact
In some cases, it is a valid email address. Perhaps you can give it a priority
?
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tion with autopkgtest (DEP 8) for instance ?
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Le Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 04:15:14PM +0200, "Steffen Möller" a écrit :
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> > On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 09:37:54AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > > Le Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 02:06:26PM +0200, Niels Thykier a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > Our automated tool
sting.
Thanks a lot. Please do not hesitate to remove leaf packages like mira
in an automated manner.
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with
ackage can use it, but it is not part of
the upstream source (which is not Amazon), so I really would prefer to ship
the certificate somewhere else.
I proposed ca-certificates earlier, but the result was inconclusive.
http://bugs.debian.org/573857
Would there be a volunteer to maintai
into
> the ftp-master/buildd side will take a much longer way.
Hi Andreas,
it is not fully related to your original question, but do you think that
piuparts
could support running Autopkgtests as well ?
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sers (uid >= 1000) to 002?
>
> +1. It would be a useful default.
See also:
http://wiki.debian.org/umask
http://wiki.debian.org/Debate
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noawait in most cases).
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Hi all,
would there be a volunteer to summarise this discussion as a patch to the
Developers's Reference ? You do not need to be an expert: reading and
understanding this thread is enough.
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Le Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:34:36PM +0200, Ondřej Surý a écrit :
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> 1. I have dropped the {xpm,noxpm} dichotomy and there's only
>libgd2-dev now. There are transitional packages which are ment
>to help with the move to libgd2-dev, so you don't have to make
>any changes right now - the
y with the licenses.
I use the machine-readable format because I feel that it makes my work simpler
as a maintainer.
If it makes your work harder, then by all means do not use it.
It is just as simple as this.
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passed as parameter, and uploads signed it with a trusted key ?
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y cryptography", do you mean GPG
or TLS ?
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