Re: [Pbuilder-maint] Re: pbuilder/cdebootstrap/etch: exim4-config install error in etch

2005-10-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Junichi Uekawa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > shadow 1:4.0.12-1 > > was the first version to introduce the change; > and apparently it didn't enter testing until recently > since it had a few bugs. Yep, that one slightly broke adduser in environments without shadow passwords. Marc had to fix

Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

2005-10-04 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Vegar Storvann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Vegar Storvann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: debinstaller Isn't the name very close to "debian-installer", the not-so-well-named-but-now-famous installer for the whole distribution? --

Re: Advices needed for moving {add|remove}-shell from passwd to debianutils

2005-10-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Short summary of answers Our plan seems correct. Some (Peter Samuelson, Steve Langasek) suggest it is a bit overflated and synced uploads of fixed packages should be enough. However, Frans mentioned autobuilders which will not guarantee that both packages will reach unstable at the same dinst

Re: bogus lintian warning

2005-10-01 Thread Christian Perrier
> You may decide that removing the CVS files from the orig is worse than > having them there,[1] but it doesn't excuse the fact that having them > there is bad (or at least stupid.) It also helps a lot when *we*, as upstream for native packages, inadvertently include a CVS or .svn directory in an

Advices needed for moving {add|remove}-shell from passwd to debianutils

2005-10-01 Thread Christian Perrier
The bugs #208514, #268656, #269573, #29317 all finally suggest moving add-shell and remove-shell out of the passwd package. These utilities are use to "register" shells in /etc/shells and they obviously do no belong to the passwd package. Having them in passwd enforces shells to depend on it jus

Re: Authentication problem with pbuilder

2005-09-28 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Junichi Uekawa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > To summarize: today's sid was rather more unstable than usual > due to shadow. Please bash the shadow maintainers..:-) Supposedly fixed in 4.0.12-5 There was a very transitional 4.0.12-4 during 15 minuteswhich claimed to fix the mess with su PA

Re: hotplug blacklists

2005-09-27 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Everybody who has apt-listchanges installed, for a start. > And if they don't, too bad for them. Well, I agree that people using unstable really should install apt-listchanges. However, what about testing and future stable users? Our installer does n

Re: Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20050917 meeting)

2005-09-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > (reply-to: debian-boot) Too bad, typo in manual reply-to...:-( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20050917 meeting)

2005-09-18 Thread Christian Perrier
(reply-to: debian-boot) The minutes of the now monthly D-I (Debian Installer) team IRC meeting are now available from the Debian Installer Meetings wiki page: http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianInstallerMeetings Minutes: http://people.debian.org/~bubulle/d-i/irc-meeting-20050917/minutes Log: http://

Re: mass bug filing on packages that are blocking use of cdebconf

2005-09-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Do you people really need to inform all the debian-devel readers of > this? Hmmm, apologies (public...just like apologies have to be). This was intended to be a private reply, but it seems that my fingers are more used to the "L" key. -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: mass bug filing on packages that are blocking use of cdebconf

2005-09-06 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >geneweb Fixed in 4.10-10 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Dogme05: Team Maintenance

2005-08-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Please keep in mind that responsible maintainers do not depend on > unmaintained services such as alioth.debian.org. If you must use it, > make sure that you make periodic copies of archives stored on costa. Well, I'm afraid that I'm not a responsib

Re: WebSVN of svn.debian.org uses wrong encoding

2005-08-24 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting W. Borgert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I will do that, thanks for the hint! > (However, my original plea for using UTF-8 in WebSVN remains.) Which I support, BTW, even if I understand Frans arguments. Actually, I support UTF-8 over ISO-8859-1 encoding when only one encoding is possible, for b

Re: Czech translation of po-debconf templates completed

2005-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
> It would be cool, for sure, but it still has to be done. And as Christian > noted, the bottleneck is mostly on the developper side here. I mean that > there is more translator waiting for their translations to get integrated > than developpers waiting for a given translator to update his work.

Re: Czech translation of po-debconf templates completed

2005-08-17 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jan Outrata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On behalf of Czech translation team, I'd like to announce we have > completed Czech translation of all po-debconf templates[1], thus > effectively competing[2] with French translation team. Yay, congratulations, people! And now welcome to the wonderful

New experimental shadow package 4.0.11.1-1, synced with upstream

2005-07-30 Thread Christian Perrier
LY) Nicolas François INTERNATIONALLY SUPER STARRING (ALPHABETICALLY) Alexander Gattin EXTRA-TERRESTRIALLY CO-SUPER (ALSO ALPHABETICALLY) STARRING Tomasz Klockzko SUPER-INTER- GALACTICALLY (A BIT ALPHABETICALLY) CO MEGA STARRING Christian Perrier SUPRA COSMICALLY INTER-UNIVERSALLY ULTRA ALPHABETICALL

Re: Removal of transitional dummy packages

2005-07-17 Thread Christian Perrier
> >> In a few weeks, we'll start filing RC bugs against the remaining > >> packages. > > RC bug? What the heck are you talking about? > > No RC Bug, normal severity. If its a dummy out of an (now) empty source I also agree with the severity to be normal. Which could, btw, have been said in a m

Re: "How to recognise different ETCH wishlists from quite a long way away" (revised)

2005-07-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Dunno which section of your list this should pertain but "Enforce the use of po-debconf for debconf templates" is in my mind. This probably needs a few s/SHOULD/MUST in the policy so that we can file RC bugs on packages which still use the "old style" debconf l10n system. There are few of these a

Re: configure a program -- debconf abuse?

2005-07-04 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Peter Palfrader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > OTOH, if there is a sensible default (and there is for jed), just pick > one and be done with it. No need to burden the admin with yet another > question. I beg to disagree here. As long as an appropriate priority is used (here, probably low) and t

Re: Reportbug and RFS

2005-06-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting David Moreno Garza ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > You could write the patch, file a wishlist bug against reportbug and > send it to the bug. Or, even, if you're not able to write the patch (noone can actually be fluent in all the damn programming languages in the world...:-)), just send the wish

Re: graphic installation to debian

2005-06-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Otavio Salvador ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Maybe we should change debconf to display a message when we hve > multiselect templates explain how the user should do to mark an iten > and how to continue. This has been discussed, yep. Just like a possible "Help" button, but we're quite stuck wit

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Do libpam-umask ought to be "base" ? > > The discussion is here: http://bugs.debian.org/314539 And enforcing the use of libpam-umask is actually the direction we're taking.. First step probably : comment UMASK in login.defs in answer to #314539

Re: graphic installation to debian

2005-06-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Helmut Wollmersdorfer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > A GUI can have better usability. E.g. some beginners don't know, how to > mark an item in a list for selection in the current installer. O.k., Right. This has been reported quite often (actually more in tasksel than the installer itself, tho

Re: graphic installation to debian

2005-06-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 02:59:07PM +0300, Markus Åkerman wrote: > > hi, > > > > i suggest a raphical insallation to debian, one is soon coming ro gentoo. > > This is being worked on, and might happen with etch. > > Note, however, that it's never a g

Minutes of Debian Installer IRC meeting of 20050618

2005-06-19 Thread Christian Perrier
(also see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianInstallerMeetings) The fourth Debian Installer team meeting was held from 14:00UTC to 15:37UTC on Saturday June 18th. This was the first D-I team meeting since we had a pre-release meeting at the end of July 2004, before releasing sarge Debian Installer RC

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-16 Thread Christian Perrier
> day. Many of the false positives were from the same people, who could > have removed their CBL listing easily. (If they didn't fix the Hmmm, IIRC I was among these ones and the reasons was the CBL listing all dynamic and non dynamic addresses from Free, one of the 2-3 major ISPs for DSL in Fr

Re: setting umask globally

2005-06-16 Thread Christian Perrier
> Filing a bug against login... (shadow maintainer hat on) bugger...:-) I was reading this thread and just told to self : dude, this will end up in a BR against shadow/login:-) So, to summarize, the rationale here is : don't set umask in the default login.defs and leave this to shells and/o

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-15 Thread Christian Perrier
> Please relax. The discussion is not whether we drop Firefox from the > distro. This will not happen, Firefox will still be here for as long Even if I have followed that discussion from very far, I have noted that you do not plan this. But I noted Julien's suggestion to simply drop the thing an

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-15 Thread Christian Perrier
> >> We drop their products from Debian, they lose market share. We drop > > Really? Do you actually believe that debian users would switch to > > Konqueror just because we stopped distributing Firefox in Debian? > > What about Galeon and the others Gecko-based browsers ? Non issue. Nearly all

Re: Translation of init scripts

2005-06-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Jun 12, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are there any attempts to do it ? > > It would be nice if it can be done. > Start looking at lsb-base. This probably fits a proposed BOF at Debconf, by the way, proposed by Henrique de Moraes

Re: X.org l10n (was: Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?)

2005-06-10 Thread Christian Perrier
> Branden runs the svn repo, so you'll have to ask him for access. Hmmm, I may already have it, then...s I used to be listed in Alioth project for xfree packages, IIRC (but never really made use of it, I'm afraid). > > > And, of course, some sync with the Ubuntu fellows is likely to avoid > > d

X.org l10n (was: Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?)

2005-06-10 Thread Christian Perrier
> auditing things. Most of the Ubuntu changes, for example the reworking of > the xserver debconf configuration scripts, I kept almost completely > (merging in whatever fixes went in to the xfree86 tree after the Ubuntu > branch). The remainder of the changes are either re-branding to Debian or >

Re: Vancouver prpopsal (was Re: Canonical and Debian)

2005-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting John Goerzen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I am glad to have discussions take place at Debconf. In-person meetings > are a great way to brainstorm and reach some consensus. But I am wary > about decisions being reached there, or in IRC, or wherever only a > minority of Debian developers can par

Re: Vancouver prpopsal (was Re: Canonical and Debian)

2005-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> No, actually, at the time it was released it was presented as a fait > accompli. After it received a wide expression of distaste and disgust, That is your point of view and the way you read it. This is not the way I read it, so it's likely to be a matter of interpretation. > There has, to date

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> Again, do not mess with cultures you do not understand. Do you have real examples? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: automated updates of debian/changelog considered harmful

2005-06-08 Thread Christian Perrier
> Nowadays, the recommended way to update config.sub/guess is transparent, > Debian-specific (but friendly to any sort of upstream config.sub/guess > usage pattern), version-control friendly, and also non-.diff-bloating. Could you develop on that topic (or point me to some good reference, of cou

Re: automated updates of debian/changelog considered harmful

2005-06-08 Thread Christian Perrier
> [ If you do not believe this, visit buildd.debian.org and see the > build logs for the lifelines package, for example ]. I am in the process of fixing this, thanks for reporting. However, I am completely sure that this did not went into the package by accident and I was certainly misguided by

Ports helping in World Domination? (was: Re: Canonical and Debian)

2005-06-06 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Julien BLACHE ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Eh, to achieve Total World Domination, we need to support every > architecture out of there. Looks like a step in the wrong direction ;) Well, frankly speaking, Julien, last time I checked most of so-called third world users mostly just don't care a s

Re: Release update: minor delay; no non-RC fixes; upgrade reports

2005-06-01 Thread Christian Perrier
> I remember times when there where two weeks test cycles where the whole > thing was frozen with zero changes for at about a week, and if any > serious problems were found they were fixed and then there was the next > test cycle. > > Why is there now always such a hurry to get everything out w

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

2005-06-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting David Weinehall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Indeed. The Nokia OSSO (Open Source Software Operations) that work on > this product consists of several DD's (myself being one), plus at least > one person in the NM-queue. Some of our subcontractors are also DD's. This should be IMHO publicized

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-01 Thread Christian Perrier
> I don't have any hard statistics, but here are some random examples of > patches whose development was sponsored by Canonical, were tested and proven > in Ubuntu, were proactively submitted to Debian by an Ubuntu developer, and > remain in debbugs months later without comment from the maintainer

Re: Debian as living system

2005-05-18 Thread Christian Perrier
> > Comme vous le voyez, la cuistrerie, cela se cultive... > > Quelle verve :) A en faire pâlir Cyrano de Bergerac ma foi ! > La liste est cependant anglophone je pense, et nos pauvres collègues non Sure. And this list subscribers deserve some apologies for myself being annoyed enough to be im

Re: Debian as living system

2005-05-18 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I really don't care. If somebody can't be bothered to write a mail in > comprehensible English, they shouldn't expect anybody else to bother > to read it. Most won't even bother to say why they didn't bother to > read it. He's lucky that I did, and sh

Re: Demande d'assistance

2005-04-28 Thread Christian Perrier
>Je vous prie d'emblée de m'excuser pour tous les désagréments qu'un I'm really disappointed that the non French-speaking readers of this mailing list cannot enjoy the incredibly funny writing of this Ivorian Scam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubs

Re: traduction de la description des paquets

2005-04-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting sebastien mazzucco ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > bonjour > > connaissant debian depuis peu je souhaiterai contribuer à ce projet > grace à des traductions d'anglais vers le francais et tout > particulierement en ce quiconcerne la desription des paquets ; > malheureusement les FAQ semblent obsele

Re: Thoughts about changing Debian's release process

2005-04-05 Thread Christian Perrier
> So changing the way Debian runs should be more like: > > - find a problem (easy :)) > - create a team to work on it (not as easy ;-) > - implement a proposed solution and test how it performs > - have a vote if it should be adopted as official - document it :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: How to handle unreproducible RC bugs when the submitter is MIA?

2005-04-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Dear release team, > > #297181 is unreproducible, and the submitter has not answered to our > questions for a while. I am quite confident that this bug is really > PEBCAK, or more specifically a local misconfiguration, or some old > locally installed Em

Re: crediting debconf translators, revisited

2005-04-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting sean finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > hi all, > > some time back, i remember somebody asking what the proper way was to > credit translators who provided debconf template translations. the > consensus seemed to be that mentioning them in the changelog was > sufficient. > > not being satisfi

Re: Standard description file about maintainer groups

2005-03-30 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Ola Lundqvist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > A common way is to list the contact address for the group > as maintainer and each person responsible for uploads in Uploaders. > You miss non official Debian developers this way though. This is the way d-i packages are handled. This is also the way I

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels

2005-03-21 Thread Christian Perrier
> I am truly sorry for loosing you. You have done a good job helping > Debian progress the state of free software, and it is sad that you > decide to throw in the towel because of hard language from a fellow > Debian volunteer. :( I personnally can't stop thinking that Sven can reconsider his to

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-21 Thread Christian Perrier
> I'm quite unhappy that this thread has turned so bad. Please, all of us > who are part of this thread, can we please try to get the heat out. I can't agree more. What I have seen up to now is make me very sad. Seeing Sven considering to resign is sad news for me. I won't play the "others star

Re: my thoughts on the Vancouver Prospectus

2005-03-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > * Thiemo Seufer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050320 12:15]: > > I don't regard my mips/mipsel porting work as just a hobby. > > You're definitly doing a very professional job with mips*. In fact, I'm Which indeed does not change my statement. All this (our De

Re: my thoughts on the Vancouver Prospectus

2005-03-20 Thread Christian Perrier
> So drop this bullshit veto thing. There is no reason to have this. I read this thread very occasionnally and I usually pick up posts my people I respect for their ability to express their opinions quietly and without the need of flaming. Hence, I have to admit that I'm really surprised by this

Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-17 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Torsten Landschoff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > May I suggest reporting your HOWTO mail as a bug in the developers > reference? That way it is at least recorded somewhere. I'd do it but I > don't want without permission. Feel free to do so...this will probably be a good motivation for me to wr

Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-16 Thread Christian Perrier
> Is this already in the Developer's Reference? If not, I think it should be > added there. Thanks for the info! Sigh, I *knew* someone would say this..:-) Well, I may be unlucky enough for the tutorial about "i18n/l10n handling for maintainers and translators" I proposed at debconf to be accep

Re: post-sarge transitions: slang

2005-03-16 Thread Christian Perrier
> slang should, I hope, be a fairly small change; OTOH, we seem to still have > conflicting slang1 and slang1a-utf8 packages in the archive (conflicting > -dev packages at least), so it would certainly be nice to wrap this up and > only have to carry one version of this core library for etch. >

Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-15 Thread Christian Perrier
(what to do when correcting typos in debconf templatesand want to avoid extra work to translators) Quoting Adeodato Simó ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > * Christian Perrier [Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:24:57 +0100]: > > > Indeed, typo and spell corrections should not need translation updates >

Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Florian Zumbiehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi, > > now that the problems with my last bunch of bug reports on mostly "its" > vs. "it's" mistakes some months ago seem to be solved, I've found another > load of typos of the "a" vs. "an" flavor, about 110 in total. please please please...for an

Re: Debian makes titles

2005-03-15 Thread Christian Perrier
> Are you happy with that? People talking about Debian ? Sure. "Press" misunderstanding issues, no, but this is not the first time. Sure, we will have (we already have) a nice Internet rumour saying "Debian drops most architectures". But, well, we have rumours about nearly anything alors une de

Re: Release sarge now, or discuss etch issues? (was: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting)

2005-03-15 Thread Christian Perrier
> I do not understand why the Nybbles team mixed their good news about > sarge with their foreseeably controversial plans or proposal for etch. This may have been a strategical error, yes. For me, the Vancouver meeting goal was obviously the sarge release and IMHO, they achieved their goal very

Sarge release (Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting)

2005-03-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hello all, > > As promised earlier on -project[0], after the release team/ftpmaster > team meeting-of-minds last weekend, we have some news to share with the > rest of the project. > > First, the news for sarge. As mentioned in the last release team

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> Based on the last few hours only, I think you'll have lots of comments > to meditate on :-) Only if considering that a few dozen of people making a lot of noise and thus making the thread absolutely impossible to read for people with a normal life and health, represents the feeling of near 100

Re: Offer to take over the shadow package (passwd and login binary packages)

2005-03-13 Thread Christian Perrier
> > I have announced in many places my intent to take over the package > > development, which I'm in fact doing since mid 2004 (with NMUs). > > Would you also take over xscreensaver and maybe let me co-maintain it? I'm afraid I have to decline. More packages would be, for me, a bit too much and

Offer to take over the shadow package (passwd and login binary packages)

2005-03-13 Thread Christian Perrier
Hello folks, The shadow package is officially maintained by Karl Ramm, with assistance by Sam Hartman. It is the source package for "login" and "passwd", two important pieces of Debian base system. I have helped Karl in collecting the package translations (both debconf and programs translations)

Re: Bug#299023: ITP: zope-common -- common settings and scripts for zope installations

2005-03-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Fabio Tranchitella ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Fabio Tranchitella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: zope-common > Version : 0.5 > Upstream Author : Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://people.ubuntu.com

Re: The Right Way to turn a native package in a non native package with a NMU

2005-03-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> So use -sa. I forgot to ACK this : the suggestion was of course correct. Thanks for the "tip" (which indeed could have been a RTFM.:-)) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Right Way to turn a native package in a non native package with a NMU

2005-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
s like it still have tons of things to learn..:-) - Forwarded message from Debian Installer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Debian Installer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yooseong Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: gnome-find_1.

Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting sean finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > to reply to my own post... > > i was under the impression that because dbconfig-common was previously > in experimental that i wouldn't have problems related to the stalled > NEW queue, but i was wrong. > > so you can get them here: > > deb http://p

Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting sean finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > okay, i'll do that some time in the near future. i'd like to give a > final look over my templates to make sure that i like my own english > before i ask anyone to translate it though :) Well, be sure that we will be critic towards your English too...ev

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-07 Thread Christian Perrier
> Any reason not to post it on-list? I was hoping to improve the > security/usability of my own setup based on the best practices offered up in > reply to this thread. Yep. Seconded. This is exactly what I was thinking while seeing this thread : let's watch it and learn how my fellow DD and Deb

Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-07 Thread Christian Perrier
> anyway, i've uploaded my first "public" release of dbconfig-common > to experimental. minus a couple bells and whistles (and probably > plus a bunch of undiscovered bugs), it's pretty much feature complete for > what's mentioned on my webpage[3], so at this point i'd like to call for > some brav

The installer is not a release blocker...but interest in the installer is decreasing

2005-02-20 Thread Christian Perrier
(from a thread in -devel) Quoting Henrique de Moraes Holschuh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Brian Nelson wrote: > > > There isn't any evidence I've seen that these arch's actually slow > > > down the release. > > > > Getting debian-installer working across all architectures was cert

Re: "The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly" on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > No, it's not a good idea. Let's keep the change in mind for etch. That, I fully agree with...:) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: "The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly" on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-20 Thread Christian Perrier
> I don't know how these translation things are handled technically. But > since the intended meaning didn't change at all, I don't see why it is > better to have a "bad" english version and 40 equally "bad" translated > versions, over having a better english version, 10 better translated > version

Re: "The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly" on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-19 Thread Christian Perrier
> And yes, it does belong there. It could easily add the something like: Sure. Changing an important screen with 36 complete translations just now is an easy thing to do. People who argue for this "easy change" are just volunteering to handle translation updates and bring them back to the state

Re: MTA in base system installation

2005-02-17 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Philipp Hug wrote: > > Is it really necessary to have a full blown MTA in the base installation? > > What the hell is a "base installation"? ...what you get when installing from scratch and choose no task in tasksel. You then end

Re: (forw) Packages not using po-debconf - more active actions to come

2005-02-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > * Christian Perrier > > | Please find below the alphabetical list of the relevant packages > | (main, then contrib, then non-free). > > .. as usual, please include maintainer names with package lists like > this. (And than

Re: Request for Help: apt 0.6

2005-02-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Moin, > > We need help by competent developers who work on apt 0.6 with the goal > to get it supported properly and eventually enter sid and sarge. > > There is a good chance the release will happen before the issues with > apt 0.6 are resolved, so th

(forw) Packages not using po-debconf - more active actions to come

2005-02-14 Thread Christian Perrier
This was intended for being crossposted to -devel and -i18n but I finally forgot to add -devel. Please followup to -i18n if you don't mind. - Forwarded message from Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:54:42 +0100 From: Christian Perrier <[E

Re: Verify debianhttp://www.perrier.eu.org/debian/voices/-devel@lists.debian.org for Francois.Mescam@onera.fr

2005-02-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> Then it is broken. Automatic mails should be sent to the envelope > sender, unless explicitly asked otherwise. Yes, it was (broken)...:-) And, now it is not broken anymore. People learn by mistakes..:) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Verify debianhttp://www.perrier.eu.org/debian/voices/-devel@lists.debian.org for Francois.Mescam@onera.fr

2005-02-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > This isn't greylisting -- greylisting doesn't ask for verification, it > just temporarily refuses to accept the mail. Oversimplification on my side. The point was not nitpicking the system but give a general explanation... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: Verify debianhttp://www.perrier.eu.org/debian/voices/-devel@lists.debian.org for Francois.Mescam@onera.fr

2005-02-13 Thread Christian Perrier
> Why do people think it's acceptable for their stupid anti-spam measures > to inconvenience others? I am indirectly responsible for M. Mescam message. He was BCC'ed to my original mail annoucing Babelbox documentation (I had my own reasons for the BCC). However, as I did setup the Reply-To fiel

Babelbox documentation is available

2005-02-13 Thread Christian Perrier
(reply to -devel unless answering on a topic more appropriate to one of the other lists) Several people have heard of my "Babelbox" demo machine which was featured for the first time at Solutions Linux expo in Paris. This demo machine is a Debian Installer demo which runs over and over, changing

Re: Who could be able to help SW vendors to support Debian?

2005-02-01 Thread Christian Perrier
> I don't like to pass the buck, yet I can't see a way that Debian, as > it is can support them directly. Perhaps they ought to look to the I think they don't need support from Debian. They just need to know where to discuss the issues they are concerned with. In understand this is not really a

Re: Who could be able to help SW vendors to support Debian?

2005-02-01 Thread Christian Perrier
> > Would any people around have pointers which could be given to such > > people ? Do we already have an entry point for such technical issues > > as proprietary SW vendors needing technical information about the way > > to support Debian ? > > It isn't clear to me what sort of compatibility iss

Who could be able to help SW vendors to support Debian?

2005-02-01 Thread Christian Perrier
During the Solutions Linux expo in Paris, the DD's present at the Debian booth have been approached by a representative from Trend Micro Corp. who develops and sells security software (the most well known being probably a virus scanning software and such similar software suites). We ended with a v

Re: non-ftp way to upload packages

2005-02-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Yes, scp to gluck (or other debian machine) and use dupload/dput from > > there. > > Or just upload into glucks delayed queue into day 0. Which is the method I personnaly use since the Nov. 2003 compromise... IMHO, by far the easiest and simplest

Looking for a Korean native speaker for a few translation updates

2005-01-27 Thread Christian Perrier
Hello, fellow Debian developers and users, The Korean translation of Debian in general, and especially the Debian Installer, has been made up to now mostly by Changwoo Ryu, one of the few DD's in Korea. I'm however without news from him for several weeks now and we have, for D-I and "related" pac

Re: [Fwd: Re: status of the DDTP project?]

2005-01-23 Thread Christian Perrier
> It seems there are enough people who want to help, but, which are debian > developers? Could you, or anybody else, maybe try to find out who are > interested? Speaking on behalf of the French l10n team... We have completely abandoned the DDTP effort now, as far as I am aware. Nicolas Bertoliss

Re: rudeness in changelogs

2005-01-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Andrew Suffield wrote: > >* New upstream release (closes: #270944, #277543). It's less than two > > weeks since this was released; may you contract an interesting > > venereal disease. > > Is this really called for in changelogs? Note that the

Re: remove me

2005-01-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Michelle Konzack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > rm -rf [EMAIL PROTECTED] >/dev/null Nope, you're definitely wrong. The correct command line should be: cd "call wave"  ; rm -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] >/dev/null The user explicitely asked for being removed from call wave only.:) I'm pretty sure other

Bug#289416: general: Typo's in dutch messages for dpkg and cat(libc?)

2005-01-09 Thread Christian Perrier
reassign 289416 coreutils tags 289416 l10n thanks Quoting Rene van Valkenburg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: general > Severity: minor > > > Running: su -c "apt-get --purge remove hello" > Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar > Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd... Klaar > De volgende pakket

Re: New stable version after Sarge

2005-01-08 Thread Christian Perrier
> A 6-month period honestly doesn't allow us much time for new development > anyway. If all we wanted was a point release of sarge, that'd be fine; but > I think most people would like to see etch be an improvement over sarge in > more respects than just hardware driver count, and we have to be re

Re: Happy new year 2003

2005-01-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jean-Luc Picard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > yes, debian is still 2 years late to any other distro. Flame answer sent in private mail, in French, which makes me easier to share my feelings about the consideration the above mail shows towards a volunteer work.

Re: Problems to upload

2004-12-17 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > But what me *really* concerns is why dput and dupload failed in the > first place. Especially the hint to "PASSIV MODE" smells like something > has changed to the situation before. I do not know something about > passive mode but I'm afraid somebody

Some advices about debconf i18n (was: Re: Help needed with debconf)

2004-12-16 Thread Christian Perrier
A bit out of topic and not helpful for your main problem, but please find a little advice about the templates themselves... First of all, please make them translatable. man po-debconf will give you the needed information, but it's basically a matter of prepending Choices and Description with "_"

A few Debian packages use "cz" for lang code name for Czech

2004-12-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Hello, I just discovered that 4 Debian packages incorrectly use "cz" for the language code for Czech: http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf/cz (of course, the correct code is "cs") I reported a bug against each of those, but wanted to let you be aware of that. I think you need to check what

Re: Is Debian a common carrier? Was: package rejection

2004-12-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > very strict regarding anything regarding Nazism. s/Nazism/Crimes against Mankind (or whatever it should be properly called in English...original version is "apologie de crimes contre l'humanité")

Re: debconf temlate encoding

2004-12-04 Thread Christian Perrier
(CC'ing -i18n) > > Are we moving to UTF-8 for sarge? > > > AFAIK most parts (especially deconf) are UTF-8 ready, so lets do this > also for debconf templates. Yes. > > > Is there any guideline for which encoding to use for po files for > > debconf. > > > I have read on a Debian web-site (

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Allan Sandfeld Jensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > LOL, the package is no more sexist than it is racist for only showing a > person Well, I gave you my opinion. You're free of not agreeing with it. Playing the Monty Python argument course won't help us, though. ITP's are, in my interpretati

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