Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-04-17 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 17/04/2022 19:26, Satvik Sinha wrote:
> Hi,guys and Good Day! So in recent days ,it was observed that many open
> source contributors vandalised their or someone else's  project's
> reputation to show agendas of Russia-Ukraine war, Some even vandalised
> their project to destroy system in Russia and Belarus (Node-ipc being
> one of them) that affected many people and their trust on open-source
> software. So I wanted to ask How safe is Debian doing right now and how
> will you guys prevent contributors pushing such malicious code into your
> software and how will you detect a software getting vandalised to showed
> Anti-war agenda by abusing your OS's reputation?

If there are backdoors in Debian then they are harder to detect.  Large
intelligence agencies aim for plausible deniability.  Look at the
infamous OpenSSL vulnerability[1].  After investing so much time
planting agents and backdoors in Debian, they will not want to blow
their cover by doing something so brash.

There has recently been evidence on Debian Community News about some
cases, for example:

Paul Tagliamonte and Sam Hartman and their Pentagon connections, with photos

Jonathan Wiltshire and Chris Lamb having GCHQ proximity, with a map

There are approximately 1000 Debian Developers and when one of us makes
an upload, there is no obligation for somebody else to check it.  On the
other hand, there is a period of days or weeks before new uploads can
propagate to stable systems.  This may make it more robust if you only
use stable.

debian-proj...@lists.debian.org is now being censored to stop
discussions like this about Debian integrity.

Regards,

Daniel

1.
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/julian-assange-debian-is-owned-by-the-nsa/

-- 
Debian Developer
https://danielpocock.com


Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Daniel Pocock


Felix, Hideki, Jonathan,

The message was sent to you all as candidates and you can each answer
for yourself

Jonathan Carter's attempt to obstruct it in his capacity as outgoing
leader is an abuse of the role of DPL.  It is even worse because he is a
candidate.  You each have the right to answer for yourself.

Jonathan is from South Africa.  His response admits that he has brought
Apartheid tactics to Debian.  Banning people is straight out of the
Apartheid playbook, that is fact:

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/list-people-banned-under-apartheid

Regards,

Daniel


On 19/03/2022 11:36, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> Daniel, you have been kicked out and consequently banned entirely from
> the project due to your behaviour and continued poor behaviour. You are
> not welcome or allowed in Debian, which includes our mailing lists,
> other communication channels or in-person events. And we will certainly
> not apologise to you for the harassment that you have caused to our
> project members and volunteers.
> 
> For anyone else, our public statement remains at:
> 
> https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027
> 
> -Jonathan
> 
> On 2022/03/19 11:28, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>
>> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan
>>
>> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election
>>
>> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
>> Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
>> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
>> problems in Debian.
>>
>> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
>> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
>> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
>> and interns, past and present.
>>
>> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
>> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
>> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
>> misused this position.
>>
>> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
>> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.
>>
>> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
>> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
>> amounts to harassment[3].
>>
>> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
>> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
>> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?
>>
>> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?
>>
>> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
>> 2.
>> https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
>>
>> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/
> 

-- 
Debian Developer
https://danielpocock.com


Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Daniel Pocock


Felix, Hideki, Jonathan

You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election

In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
problems in Debian.

Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
and interns, past and present.

This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
misused this position.

Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.

The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
amounts to harassment[3].

As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?

Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?

Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?

Regards,

Daniel

1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
2.
https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/


Re: workarounds for Planet bugs?

2018-07-10 Thread Daniel Pocock



On 10/07/18 12:09, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 08:36:35PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> Yes, I don't think they are all the same problem.
>>
>> For Anisa, Jona and Kristi they are all using Wordpress and it is polled
>> successfully by the version of planet-venus[1] in stretch and by other
>> Planet sites so I didn't want to bother them to try changing their whole
>> blog unless there is a known workaround for the issue that they can
>> enable without too much effort.
> 
> Perhaps you can get access to Planet Debian's run logs to see what
> error reporting those blogs trigger, if any.
> 


Yes, I did that, the planet admins have a wiki about[1] it and I looked
there before posting.  The wiki suggests filing a bug against the
package planet-venus but the service is not running the package and the
bug doesn't exist in the latest package anyway, Planet is running an old
version from 2011.

I was hoping somebody else using Wordpress may remember what options
they selected in their Wordpress settings to make it work

This is what appears in the log for the last poll:


$ cat /srv/planet.debian.org/log/planet.log.0 | egrep 'kuci|progri|azizaj'
INFO:planet.runner:Fetching https://anisakuci.com/feed/ via 6
INFO:planet.runner:Fetching https://blog.azizaj.com/tag/debian/feed/ via 9
INFO:planet.runner:Fetching https://kristiprogri.com/feed/ via 14
ERROR:planet.runner:Error 500 while updating feed
https://anisakuci.com/feed/
  (HTTPS not supported)
INFO:planet.runner:Feed https://blog.azizaj.com/tag/debian/feed/ unchanged
INFO:planet.runner:Feed https://kristiprogri.com/feed/ unchanged
DEBUG:planet.runner:missing self link for
https://blog.azizaj.com/tag/debian/feed/
DEBUG:planet.runner:missing html link for
https://blog.azizaj.com/tag/debian/feed/
DEBUG:planet.runner:missing self link for https://kristiprogri.com/feed/
DEBUG:planet.runner:missing html link for https://kristiprogri.com/feed/



Regards,

Daniel


1. https://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian#Maintenance_notes



Re: workarounds for Planet bugs?

2018-07-09 Thread Daniel Pocock



On 03/07/18 20:24, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
> Hello Daniel
> 
> 
> El 02/07/18 a las 20:04, Daniel Pocock escribió:
>>
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> Planet struggles to poll certain blogs (see below), including some new
>> contributors.
>>
>> Does anybody know of workarounds these people can use until Planet is
>> updated to a recent version of planet-venus?  For example, at least
>> three of them I communicated with are using Wordpress, is there some
>> setting in Wordpress they need to enable or disable to make their feed work?
>>
> 
> I've switched some feeds to HTTPS:
> 
> https://salsa.debian.org/planet-team/config/commit/32a1934f4f142a664f397f5c6c8b6cc664689f60
> 
> I hope this fixes the issue.

Thanks for trying this

> In other cases, the blogs were inaccessible. I suggest to contact with
> each one of their authors, because the issue may not be the same for all
> of them, and try to find a working feed that can be added to the planet.
> 


Yes, I don't think they are all the same problem.

For Anisa, Jona and Kristi they are all using Wordpress and it is polled
successfully by the version of planet-venus[1] in stretch and by other
Planet sites so I didn't want to bother them to try changing their whole
blog unless there is a known workaround for the issue that they can
enable without too much effort.

Regards,

Daniel

$ curl -o - -s https://planet.debian.org | grep 'href=""'
 (feed)
Anisa Kuci https://anisakuci.com/feed/;>(feed)
Benjamin Kerensa (feed)
Eduard Bloch http://www.rootfs.net/jaws/data/xml/blog.Debian.rss;>(feed)
James Bromberger https://blog.james.rcpt.to/category/computing/linux/feed/;>(feed)
Jona Azizaj https://blog.azizaj.com/tag/debian/feed/;>(feed)
Jose Luis Rivas https://ghostbar.co/feed-planetdebian.xml;>(feed)
Kristi Progri https://kristiprogri.com/feed/;>(feed)
Marco d'Itri https://blog.bofh.it/debian/?format=atom;>(feed)
Martin Meredith (feed)




1. https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/planet-venus.html



workarounds for Planet bugs?

2018-07-02 Thread Daniel Pocock



Hi everybody,

Planet struggles to poll certain blogs (see below), including some new
contributors.

Does anybody know of workarounds these people can use until Planet is
updated to a recent version of planet-venus?  For example, at least
three of them I communicated with are using Wordpress, is there some
setting in Wordpress they need to enable or disable to make their feed work?

Regards,

Daniel



$ curl -o - -s https://planet.debian.org | grep 'href=""'

 (feed)
Anisa Kuci http://anisakuci.com/feed/;>(feed)
Benjamin Kerensa (feed)
Eduard Bloch http://www.rootfs.net/jaws/data/xml/blog.Debian.rss;>(feed)
James Bromberger https://blog.james.rcpt.to/category/computing/linux/feed/;>(feed)
Jona Azizaj https://blog.azizaj.com/tag/debian/feed/;>(feed)
Jose Luis Rivas https://ghostbar.co/feed-planetdebian.xml;>(feed)
Kristi Progri http://kristiprogri.com/feed/;>(feed)
Marco d'Itri http://blog.bofh.it/debian/?format=atom;>(feed)
Martin Meredith (feed)



Bug#900849: allowing alternative country lists on a Debian host/installer

2018-06-05 Thread Daniel Pocock
Package: iso-codes
Severity: wishlist
Version: 3.75-1
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org


I've been thinking about technical solutions to help the country list
bug[1] and the following possibility came to mind:

- define a virtual package with a name like "country-codes"

- src:iso-codes could be split into multiple binary packages, one would
be called iso-country-codes

- package the GENC[2] list as genc-country-codes

- both the iso-country-codes package and the genc-country-codes package
could provide the virtual country-codes so only one can be installed

Would other packages that depend on iso-codes be comfortable using GENC
if it was installed this way?


As an alternative, maybe both lists (ISO-3166 and GENC) could be
installed concurrently and the alternatives[3] mechanism could be used
to switch between them?


For the Debian Installer[4], maybe the installer can ask the user to
choose "Do you want to use ISO-3166 or GENC or load a custom country
list from a USB stick?".


1. https://bugs.debian.org/872867
2. https://nsgreg.nga.mil/doc/view?i=2500
3. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianAlternatives
4. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller



Bug#898259: RFP: vscode -- Microsoft Visual Studio Code

2018-05-09 Thread Daniel Pocock
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-outre...@lists.debian.org


Visual Studio Code regularly comes up in discussions.  Several GSoC
students have asked about using it for Python projects.

Upstream releases[1] the source code under an MIT license on Github

They also distribute binary versions that may or not be built from an
identical code base and contain other (non-free) license clauses.  The
differences are discussed[2] in Github.  It is suggested that the
difference between the source and binary version is like the difference
between chromium and chrome.

Various people have commented about the product sending[3] telemetry
data to the upstream but it is not clear if that happens if it is built
from the source but presumably that can be patched.

The FAQ also mentions[4] auto-updates, that also appears to be something
that would be unexpected for a package user.

There is some background information[5] about the product on Wikipedia.

Any feedback about the suitability of this software as a package or the
use of this software for free software development in general and
alternatives (whether packaged or not) would be welcome.

Regards,

Daniel


1. https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/blob/master/LICENSE.txt
2. https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/60#issuecomment-161792005
3.
https://code.visualstudio.com/Docs/supporting/FAQ#_how-to-disable-telemetry-reporting
4.
https://code.visualstudio.com/Docs/supporting/FAQ#_how-do-i-opt-out-of-vs-code-autoupdates
5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Studio_Code



Accepted postbooks 4.11.3-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2018-04-24 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Accepted postbooks-updater 2.4.0-6 (source amd64) into unstable

2018-04-24 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Accepted postbooks-schema 1:4.11.3-1 (source all) into unstable

2018-04-24 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:29:03 +0200
Source: postbooks-schema
Binary: postbooks-schema-common postbooks-schema-demo postbooks-schema-empty 
postbooks-schema-quickstart
Architecture: source all
Version: 1:4.11.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 postbooks-schema-common - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (demo 
database)
 postbooks-schema-demo - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (demo database)
 postbooks-schema-empty - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (empty 
database)
 postbooks-schema-quickstart - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite 
(quickstart database)
Changes:
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 .
   * New upstream release.
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Accepted openrpt 3.3.14-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2018-04-24 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:52:04 +0200
Source: openrpt
Binary: libopenrpt1v5 openrpt libopenrpt-dev
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Version: 3.3.14-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 libopenrpt-dev - graphical SQL report writer, designer and rendering engine 
(devel
 libopenrpt1v5 - graphical SQL report writer, designer and rendering library
 openrpt- graphical SQL report writer, designer and rendering engine
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted csvimp 0.6.2-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2018-04-24 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:41:15 +0200
Source: csvimp
Binary: csvimp libcsvimp-dev
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 0.6.2-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 csvimp - CSV data import tool for xTuple applications
 libcsvimp-dev - CSV data import tool for xTuple applications (development 
files)
Changes:
 csvimp (0.6.2-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release.
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Accepted qpid-proton 0.22.0-1 (source amd64 all) into unstable, unstable

2018-04-19 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:39:22 +0200
Source: qpid-proton
Binary: libqpid-proton11 libqpid-proton-cpp12 libqpid-proton11-dev 
libqpid-proton-cpp12-dev libqpid-proton11-dev-examples libqpid-proton11-dev-doc 
libqpid-proton-cpp12-dev-doc python-qpid-proton python3-qpid-proton 
python-qpid-proton-doc
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 0.22.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian Middleware Maintainers 
<pkg-middleware-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 libqpid-proton-cpp12 - C++ libraries for Qpid Proton
 libqpid-proton-cpp12-dev - C++ Development libraries for writing messaging 
apps with Qpid Pr
 libqpid-proton-cpp12-dev-doc - C++ developer documentation for Qpid Proton
 libqpid-proton11 - C libraries for Qpid Proton
 libqpid-proton11-dev - C Development libraries for writing messaging apps with 
Qpid Prot
 libqpid-proton11-dev-doc - Developer documentation for Qpid Proton
 libqpid-proton11-dev-examples - Example applications for writign messaging 
apps with Qpid Proton
 python-qpid-proton - language bindings for Qpid Proton messaging framework - 
Python 2.
 python-qpid-proton-doc - Documentation for the Python language bindings for 
Qpid Proton
 python3-qpid-proton - language bindings for Qpid Proton messaging framework - 
Python 3.
Closes: 859669 871087 871292
Changes:
 qpid-proton (0.22.0-1) unstable; urgency=high
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Built against OpenSSL 1.1.  (Closes: #859669)
   * Patch to avoid mismatch with hardening flags.  (Closes: #871087)
   * Rebuilt with GCC 7.  (Closes: #871292)
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Accepted sipxtapi 3.3.0~test17-3 (source amd64 all) into unstable

2018-04-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:49:44 +0200
Source: sipxtapi
Binary: libsipxtapi libsipxtapi-dev libsipxtapi-doc
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 3.3.0~test17-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 libsipxtapi - SIP stack, RTP media framework and codecs
 libsipxtapi-dev - SIP stack, RTP media framework and codecs (headers)
 libsipxtapi-doc - SIP stack, RTP media framework and codecs (API documentation)
Closes: 850898 862127
Changes:
 sipxtapi (3.3.0~test17-3) unstable; urgency=high
 .
   [ Rene Engelhard ]
   * use PKG_CHECK_MODULES instead of AM_PATH_CPPUNIT (Closes: #862127)
 .
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Re: Kanboard and alternatives for mentoring

2018-02-22 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 21/02/18 20:39, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] Daniel Pocock 
> 
>> Another possibility: DSA already run RT and there is a Kanban
>> extension[3] for it.
> 
> I doubt we're interested in making the RT setup generally available for
> people to create and sign up for queues and such.
> 
> (Speaking with a DSA hat, but not for all of DSA as we have yet to
> discuss it.)
> 


Even if DSA didn't grant access to the instance you run now, would it be
considered easier for you to support extra, identical instances of RT
rather than supporting Kanboard or alternatives?

Regards,

Daniel



Re: Kanboard and alternatives for mentoring

2018-02-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
(please reply on debian-devel unless your reply is very specific to one
of the other teams)

Hi all,

I wanted to share this discussion with the wider community as Kanboard
has appeared in two different teams (DebConf and Outreach) and it also
relates to (or potentially duplicates) the functionality of other tools
like the BTS or the RT system used by DSA...


On 21/02/18 14:05, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:40:00PM -0500, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
>>> - we probably need to get some feedback from DebConf team, they already
>>> discuss[1] it, maybe somebody will be willing to comment in this thread.
>>>  Two specific questions for DebConf team: are you happy with Kanboard or
>>> might you use another solution for 2019?  Do you see a possibility of
>>> running a shared instance of it or do you really want your instance to
>>> be DebConf only?
>>
>> I've been using KanBoard for a while now, both for DebConf and for my
>> job. I'm also the one doing most of the admin work for the
>> kanban.debian.net instance at the moment.
>>
>> I can't speak for the DC19 folks, but I like KanBoard a lot. The main
>> developer is doing a lot of work and KanBoard keeps improving. The
>> available plugins are nice too. Overall, it seems like a mature project.
>>
>> We are currently in the process of migrating the kanban.debian.net
>> instance to DSA infrastructure. DSA has been very responsive and the
>> only reason this has not been done yet is that I don't have a lot of
>> spare time these days.
>>
>> At the moment, this instance is hosted on the personal server of an
>> ex-dc17 team member, and thus not suitable for massive usage.
>>
>> Once migrated to DSA infra, I have plans to make it available to the
>> whole Debian project. I have to talk with DSA about it, but as I see it,
>> the easiest path would be to use the Gitlab plugin and to let people
>> authenticate using their salsa.debian.org account.
>>
>> If I had to give an ETA on this, I would say it should be done in 3
>> months? My university semester will be over and I should be a DD by
>> then, making it easier for DSA to give me access to a VM.
> 
> FTR, gitlab supports kanban boards for repositories where issues are
> enabled. maybe using salsa for kanban boards would be an avenue worth
> exploring instead of maintaining yet another service, since salsa is
> already being maintained anyway.
> 
> of course, KanBoard being a specialized tool, it probably has more
> features and is way better than the gitlab kanban. or maybe, the gitlab
> kanban is Good Enough™ for most uses.
> 


Duplication of effort in maintaining these things could be an issue.

Does the issue tracker in Gitlab duplicate the BTS functionality?  That
could be a reason not to enable it and simply run Kanboard for
activities that don't really intersect with the BTS content.

On the other hand, in the Outreach world (GSoC and Outreachy), there may
be cases where an intern is working on some issues tracked in the BTS as
well as some standalone issues.  For example, on Renata's board[2], we
create tasks for small things like asking for feedback from the Moin-dev
mailing list, that isn't a task that would go in the BTS.

Another possibility: DSA already run RT and there is a Kanban
extension[3] for it.

As mentioned in my blog recently, I would also like to encourage a
student to develop a GUI that can interface to multiple[4] issue
trackers (BTS, RT, etc) and aggregate the issues in a single Kanban view
on the desktop.

Regards,

Daniel


2. https://wiki.debian.org/RenataDAvila
3. https://github.com/nixcloud/rt-extension-kanban
4.
https://danielpocock.com/worlds-largest-kanban-board-with-free-software-communities



TTF or OTF, bad behavior on upgraded systems

2018-01-19 Thread Daniel Pocock

Hi all,

I was looking at the fonts page[1] on the wiki and it mentions:

"For most uses, you’ll want TrueType (TTF) and OpenType (OTF) fonts"

In fact, is it necessary to install both, or just OTF if the same font
is available as both?

On a system that has been upgraded from etch through several Debian
versions up to stretch, I found Firefox was behaving badly, especially
when printing pages containing Helvetica.  It is a little chunky on
screen but almost unreadable when rendered on the printer.

Can anything be done to make this easier for users who have upgraded?

Looking on the web page, I used "Inspect Element" to identify the font
(Helvetica)

and then I checked which font is used:

$ fc-match helvetica
helvR12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz: "Helvetica" "Regular"

That is a bitmap font in xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-75dpi on my system.

I tried installing the OTF and TTF packages (which were missing) with:

apt install fonts-freefont-otf fonts-freefont-ttf

but that still didn't work.

Next I tried adding the MS fonts with

apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer

and that didn't resolve it either, next I tried

sudo fc-cache -v

but it was still using the PCF bitmap font.

Finally, I saw the suggestion on the wiki to run:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig fontconfig-config

and that fixed the problem.

Can anything be done to make this easier for users who have upgraded?

Regards,

Daniel

1. https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts



Accepted registration-agent 1.3.4-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-11-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
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Accepted postbooks-updater 2.4.0-5 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-09-16 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 postbooks-updater - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (database update 
manager)
Closes: 784509
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted registration-agent 1.3.3-1 (source amd64) into unstable, unstable

2017-08-30 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 16:41:29 +0200
Source: registration-agent
Binary: registration-agent
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.3.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 registration-agent - SIP registration agent
Closes: 859678
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted resiprocate 1:1.11.0~beta5-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-06-29 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 10:43:00 +0200
Source: resiprocate
Binary: libresiprocate-1.11 libresiprocate-1.11-dev librecon-1.11 
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libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev repro resiprocate-turn-server 
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1:1.11.0~beta5-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 librecon-1.11 - reSIProcate conversation manager - shared libraries
 librecon-1.11-dev - reSIProcate conversation manager - development files
 libresiprocate-1.11 - reSIProcate SIP stack - shared libraries
 libresiprocate-1.11-dev - reSIProcate SIP stack - development files
 libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11 - reSIProcate TURN client (reTurn) - shared 
libraries
 libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev - reSIProcate TURN client (reTurn) - 
development files
 repro  - reSIProcate SIP stack - lightweight SIP proxy daemon
 resiprocate-turn-server - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 resiprocate-turn-server-psql - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 sipdialer  - reSIProcate SIP stack - click-to-call utility
 telepathy-resiprocate - SIP Connection Manager for Telepathy Framework
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted resiprocate 1:1.11.0~beta4-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-06-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:00:32 +0200
Source: resiprocate
Binary: libresiprocate-1.11 libresiprocate-1.11-dev librecon-1.11 
librecon-1.11-dev libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11 
libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev repro resiprocate-turn-server 
resiprocate-turn-server-psql sipdialer telepathy-resiprocate
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1:1.11.0~beta4-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 librecon-1.11 - reSIProcate conversation manager - shared libraries
 librecon-1.11-dev - reSIProcate conversation manager - development files
 libresiprocate-1.11 - reSIProcate SIP stack - shared libraries
 libresiprocate-1.11-dev - reSIProcate SIP stack - development files
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 resiprocate-turn-server - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 resiprocate-turn-server-psql - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 sipdialer  - reSIProcate SIP stack - click-to-call utility
 telepathy-resiprocate - SIP Connection Manager for Telepathy Framework
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted reconserver 0.15.2-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-06-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
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Changes:
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 .
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2017-06-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 20:33:50 +0200
Source: postbooks-schema
Binary: postbooks-schema-common postbooks-schema-demo postbooks-schema-empty 
postbooks-schema-quickstart
Architecture: source all
Version: 1:4.10.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 postbooks-schema-common - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (demo 
database)
 postbooks-schema-demo - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (demo database)
 postbooks-schema-empty - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (empty 
database)
 postbooks-schema-quickstart - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite 
(quickstart database)
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted tbdialout 1.7.2-2 (source all) into unstable

2017-06-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 08:51:10 +0200
Source: tbdialout
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Version: 1.7.2-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Mozilla Extension Maintainers 
<pkg-mozext-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 xul-ext-tbdialout - facilitates clicking the phone numbers in the address book
Closes: 865961
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted postbooks-updater 2.4.0-4 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-06-24 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:31:11 +0200
Source: postbooks-updater
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Version: 2.4.0-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 postbooks-updater - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (database update 
manager)
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted postbooks 4.10.1-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-06-24 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 18:36:56 +0200
Source: postbooks
Binary: libxtuplecommon1 libxtuplecommon-dev postbooks
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4.10.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 libxtuplecommon-dev - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (development 
package)
 libxtuplecommon1 - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (shared libraries)
 postbooks  - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (GUI)
Changes:
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 .
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Re: Bug#630196: Shotwell publishing plugin status in stretch

2017-06-05 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 04/06/17 17:15, Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote:
> Hello Daniel,
> 
> first thanks for your comments.
> 
> 
> Am Sonntag, den 04.06.2017, 12:44 +0200 schrieb Daniel Pocock:
>> 
>> Looking at Shotwell in stretch, in the Plugins tab of the
>> Preferences dialog, I see there are extra options now:
>> 
>> * Gallery3[1] (although it is not maintained upstream any more),
>> there is an RFP[2] for Debian packaging. * Piwigo[3], which was
>> removed[4] from Debian in 2012
>> 
> If a package is not in Debian or unmaintained does not mean that
> the package is no longer used.
> 
> So I think that the functions can remain active unless there are 
> security concerns.
> 

I wasn't suggesting they should not be there, it just appears that
maybe something else has superseded them, maybe somebody else can
comment on them or possible alternatives.

For example, if a user is doing this for the first time and they want
to set up a small Debian server to host photos from Shotwell, should
they try Gallery3 or Piwigo from upstream, should either of those be
avoided for any reason, or should they go for something else?

>> Sadly neither of those is currently in Debian.
>> 
>> Does anybody consider them a viable solution or would it be
>> desirable for Shotwell to support another alternative for people
>> who don't want Debian to promote Facebook?
>> 
> 
> You are long enough in the OpenSource world that I do not have to
> tell you that for new features fill a request at the upstream.
> 


Before opening an upstream feature request, it is important to
understand what possible solutions the community would prefer, that is
why I CC'd debian-devel on this first.

Regards,

Daniel



Shotwell publishing plugin status in stretch

2017-06-04 Thread Daniel Pocock


Looking at Shotwell in stretch, in the Plugins tab of the Preferences
dialog, I see there are extra options now:

* Gallery3[1] (although it is not maintained upstream any more), there
is an RFP[2] for Debian packaging.
* Piwigo[3], which was removed[4] from Debian in 2012

Sadly neither of those is currently in Debian.

Does anybody consider them a viable solution or would it be desirable
for Shotwell to support another alternative for people who don't want
Debian to promote Facebook?

Regards,

Daniel


1. http://galleryproject.org/
2. https://bugs.debian.org/511715
3. http://piwigo.org/
4. https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/piwigo.html



Accepted postbooks-updater 2.4.0-3 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-04-28 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Source: postbooks-updater
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Version: 2.4.0-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 postbooks-updater - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (database update 
manager)
Closes: 861408
Changes:
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 .
   * Update for libqt5sql5-psql (Closes: #861408)
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Re: Bug#860368: installer: create network bridges by default?

2017-04-19 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 18/04/17 10:29, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 08:51 +0200, Evgeni Golov wrote:
>>> The solution is for people to configure a bridge or Open
>>> vSwitch (OVS) in /etc/network/interfaces.  (Notice OVS can be
>>> configured[4] in the interfaces file).  Maybe it would be
>>> useful to offer one or both of these options at install time,
>>> or even configure a standard (non-OVS) bridge by default in
>>> case the user decides to try KVM in future?
>> 
>> IMHO the above implements option 1?
>> 
>>> Are there other use cases apart from KVM that would benefit
>>> from this?
>> 
>> I also use LXC on the same bridge, just for the fact that it is
>> already set up and provides DHCP, DNS and NAT.
> 
> I used to have a similar setup but eventually migrated to a systemd
> based setup with systemd-networkd. With s-networkd, I have an
> independent bridge, which serves KVM/Libvirt, User Mode Linux and
> systemd-nspawn.
> 

Could you give an example of how that is configured and what you need
in /etc/network/interfaces?  At some point I will also document how
I've done this with the Open vSwitch packages on both server and
desktop virtualization.


> VBox, running in bridged mode, used to have a network bug. I am not
> sure if that still applies. 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775266
> 
> 

That bug applies to a situation where VBox guests are in bridged mode
to a bridge in the host

I've been bridging them directly to eth0, without any bridge in the
host and haven't observed any problems like that one.

When XCP was in Debian, Open vSwitch was a mandatory part of the
platform but it didn't configure it in /etc/network/interfaces.  This
was slightly confusing if you had already configured interfaces,
although README.Debian explains[1] that you need to clobber the
interfaces file because XCP will automatically set up bridges and put
IP addresses on them during boot.

The key difference between the XCP approach and the KVM/libvirt
approach is that XCP would do everything for you, even with an empty
interfaces file, but with KVM/libvirt you do need to configure the
bridges and put IP addresses on them (using the normal interfaces
file) and declare them to libvirt with "virsh net-define" before using
them the first time.

Another thing that comes to mind is network-manager:

- for those who think a pre-configured bridge would make life
difficult, far worse has been said about network-manager but it is
still installed by default

- does network-manager have a way to help people setup a bridge
suitable for KVM/libvirt when doing virtualization on a desktop level?

Regards,

Daniel

1.
https://sources.debian.net/src/xen-api/1.3.2-15/debian/README.Debian/#L143



Accepted loganalyzer 4.1.5+dfsg-2 (source all) into unstable

2017-04-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Version: 4.1.5+dfsg-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian Monitoring Maintainers 
<pkg-monitoring-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 loganalyzer - web interface to syslog and event data
Changes:
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 .
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   * Add sample PostgreSQL configuration.
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Accepted resiprocate 1:1.11.0~beta1-3 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-04-16 Thread Daniel Pocock
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libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev repro resiprocate-turn-server 
resiprocate-turn-server-psql sipdialer telepathy-resiprocate
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
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 librecon-1.11-dev - reSIProcate conversation manager - development files
 libresiprocate-1.11 - reSIProcate SIP stack - shared libraries
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development files
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repro-d

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2017-04-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
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libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev repro resiprocate-turn-server 
resiprocate-turn-server-psql sipdialer telepathy-resiprocate
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1:1.11.0~beta1-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 librecon-1.11 - reSIProcate conversation manager - shared libraries
 librecon-1.11-dev - reSIProcate conversation manager - development files
 libresiprocate-1.11 - reSIProcate SIP stack - shared libraries
 libresiprocate-1.11-dev - reSIProcate SIP stack - development files
 libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11 - reSIProcate TURN client (reTurn) - shared 
libraries
 libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev - reSIProcate TURN client (reTurn) - 
development files
 repro  - reSIProcate SIP stack - lightweight SIP proxy daemon
 resiprocate-turn-server - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 resiprocate-turn-server-psql - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 sipdialer  - reSIProcate SIP stack - click-to-call utility
 telepathy-resiprocate - SIP Connection Manager for Telepathy Framework
Closes: 856874
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted loganalyzer 4.1.5+dfsg-1 (source all) into unstable

2017-04-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian Monitoring Maintainers 
<pkg-monitoring-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 loganalyzer - web interface to syslog and event data
Closes: 839789
Changes:
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 .
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Bug#860368: installer: create network bridges by default?

2017-04-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
Package: debian-installer
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org


With VirtualBox dropping out of testing[1], more people will be using
KVM and libvirt/virt-manager[2] for desktop virtualization.

With VirtualBox, it was possible for people to bridge their physical
network interfaces with their VM guest systems using the GUI / setup wizard.

With libvirt, that is possible using macvtap but it is unreliable and
doesn't allow[3] communication between the guest and the host, only
between the guest and other hosts on the subnet.

The solution is for people to configure a bridge or Open vSwitch (OVS)
in /etc/network/interfaces.  (Notice OVS can be configured[4] in the
interfaces file).  Maybe it would be useful to offer one or both of
these options at install time, or even configure a standard (non-OVS)
bridge by default in case the user decides to try KVM in future?

Are there other use cases apart from KVM that would benefit from this?

Are there things that would break badly if Debian offered this in future?

It is probably too late in the stretch release cycle for a change like this.

Regards,

Daniel



1. https://packages.qa.debian.org/v/virtualbox.html
2. https://packages.qa.debian.org/v/virt-manager.html
3. https://libvirt.org/formatnetwork.html#examplesDirect
4.
https://sources.debian.net/src/openvswitch/2.6.2~pre%2Bgit20161223-3/debian/openvswitch-switch.README.Debian/



Re: systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-28 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 27/02/17 21:26, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 11:18 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
>>> Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro> writes:
>> 
>>> I've observed a system that had a wildly incorrect hardware
>>> clock (when it was first unboxed), I ran ntpdate to sync the
>>> kernel clock but after a shutdown and startup again it had a
>>> wacky time again. I came across the discussion about how the
>>> hardware clock is no longer set at shutdown[1] The system has
>>> ntpd running Looking at the output of adjtimex --print | grep
>>> status the bit corresponding to 64 / STA_UNSYNC is 0 There is a
>>> time and date page on the wiki[2] and in the manual[3], neither
>>> of them appears to have up to date information about the way
>>> it works with systemd or how to troubleshoot issues like this.
>> 
>> My understanding from reading a bit about this just now is that
>> the short version is "install ntpd if you want this to happen."
>> 
>> My impression is that ntpdate has been obsolete for years and
>> upstream has been slowly trying to kill it.  ntpd is the
>> upstream-supported daemon, and it periodically asks the kernel to
>> set the hardware clock.
> 
> The kernel actually does the periodic setting automatically, so
> long as the NTP server reports that it's synchronised (by clearing
> STA_UNSYNC in timex::status).
> 
> (The kernel will only set one RTC device, which is specified in
> the build config.  On systems that have multiple RTCs and only one
> of them works (e.g. the one in the SoC doesn't have battery power
> but the one in the PMIC does) this may not work properly.  It may
> be fixable by disabling the broken RTC in the device tree.)
> 


It would seem reasonable for ntpdate to clear that flag so I opened a
bug report[1] for ntpdate

>> (And it supports various command-line options to make it act like
>> ntpdate if you really want.)
>> 
>> The much simpler systemd-timesyncd doesn't set the hardware clock
>> for reasons that one may or may not agree with (I honestly
>> haven't researched it in any depth),
> 
> It looks like it does iff the RTC is set to UTC:
> 
> /* * An unset STA_UNSYNC will enable the kernel's 11-minute mode, *
> which syncs the system time periodically to the RTC. * * In case
> the RTC runs in local time, never touch the RTC, * we have no way
> to properly handle daylight saving changes and * mobile devices
> moving between time zones. */ if (m->rtc_local_time) tmx.status |=
> STA_UNSYNC;
> 
>> but you can just run ntpd instead if you care.
> 
> But ntpd is also known to have a large amount of code written
> without as much regard for security as one would hope.  It seems
> like an unnecessary risk for most systems.
> 


Thanks for that security tip, I'm tempted to get rid of some ntpd
instances now, however a few more questions come to mind before I rush in:

- for a site with several machines, should they all be querying
pool.ntp.org servers directly or can any other local ntp daemon be
relied on?

- this discussion also reminded me of the clock drift issues[2] for
Xen virtual machines / guests / domU systems.  I don't know if such
problems still exist with modern hypervisors and kernels but I had
encountered them in the past and had been running ntpd on each VM and
then they all appeared to behave.  Does this apply to LXC, KVM or any
other environment?  What are best practices for this today, does
systemd-timesyncd solve everything and do people need to manually
tweak any sysctl like /proc/sys/xen/independent_wallclock any more?
Maybe some of this could go in the wiki too if it is still necessary.

Regards,

Daniel

1. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=856343
2.
http://serverfault.com/questions/245401/xen-hvm-guest-has-severe-clock-drift



Re: systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 27/02/17 20:18, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro> writes:
> 
>> I've observed a system that had a wildly incorrect hardware clock (when
>> it was first unboxed), I ran ntpdate to sync the kernel clock but after
>> a shutdown and startup again it had a wacky time again.
> 
>> I came across the discussion about how the hardware clock is no longer
>> set at shutdown[1]
> 
>> The system has ntpd running
> 
>> Looking at the output of
>>adjtimex --print | grep status
> 
>> the bit corresponding to 64 / STA_UNSYNC is 0
> 
>> There is a time and date page on the wiki[2] and in the manual[3],
>> neither of them appears to have up to date information about the way it
>> works with systemd or how to troubleshoot issues like this.
> 
> My understanding from reading a bit about this just now is that the short
> version is "install ntpd if you want this to happen."
> 
> My impression is that ntpdate has been obsolete for years and upstream has
> been slowly trying to kill it.  ntpd is the upstream-supported daemon, and
> it periodically asks the kernel to set the hardware clock.  (And it
> supports various command-line options to make it act like ntpdate if you
> really want.)
> 
> The much simpler systemd-timesyncd doesn't set the hardware clock for
> reasons that one may or may not agree with (I honestly haven't researched
> it in any depth), but you can just run ntpd instead if you care.
> 
> Alternately, if you really want to use a clock setting mechanism that
> doesn't ask the kernel to sync the hardware clock but you still want to
> set the hardware clock, you can add your own shutdown init script / unit
> to run hwclock --systohc (or even a cron job if you want).
> 


ntpd is definitely running now, it is a default configuration and it was
already on the box a long time before I observed the issue today.

However, at the time when I ran ntpdate, ntp was not running.  I had
brought up the network manually due to an interface renaming issue on
the first boot.  Maybe when somebody runs ntpdate in a scenario like
that the kernel is not sending the new date/time to the hardware clock.
I had simply assumed that it would be persisted at shutdown but maybe
ntpdate could be patched to do whatever ntpd does to encourage the
kernel to persist it.

Regards,

Daniel



systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Daniel Pocock

Hi all,

I've observed a system that had a wildly incorrect hardware clock (when
it was first unboxed), I ran ntpdate to sync the kernel clock but after
a shutdown and startup again it had a wacky time again.

I came across the discussion about how the hardware clock is no longer
set at shutdown[1]

The system has ntpd running

Looking at the output of
   adjtimex --print | grep status

the bit corresponding to 64 / STA_UNSYNC is 0

There is a time and date page on the wiki[2] and in the manual[3],
neither of them appears to have up to date information about the way it
works with systemd or how to troubleshoot issues like this.

Monitoring it with:

hwclock -r ; date

shows that the hardware clock is running slowly, losing maybe 1s per
hour.  I would have expected that if the kernel is syncing to the
hardware clock every 11 minutes then I wouldn't see such changes.

Can anybody make any suggestions or add anything to the wiki?

Regards,

Daniel

1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755722
2. https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime
3.
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html



Accepted postbooks-updater 2.4.0-2 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 postbooks-updater - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (database update 
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Changes:
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Accepted postbooks 4.10.0-2 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 18:10:24 +0100
Source: postbooks
Binary: libxtuplecommon1 libxtuplecommon-dev postbooks
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4.10.0-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 libxtuplecommon-dev - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (development 
package)
 libxtuplecommon1 - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (shared libraries)
 postbooks  - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (GUI)
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted openrpt 3.3.12-2 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 18:10:24 +0100
Source: openrpt
Binary: libopenrpt1v5 openrpt libopenrpt-dev
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 3.3.12-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 libopenrpt-dev - graphical SQL report writer, designer and rendering engine 
(devel
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Changes:
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 .
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Accepted csvimp 0.5.4-2 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 18:10:24 +0100
Source: csvimp
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 csvimp - CSV data import tool for xTuple applications
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files)
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted postbooks-schema 1:4.10.0-2 (source all) into unstable

2017-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:16:11 +0100
Source: postbooks-schema
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postbooks-schema-quickstart
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Version: 1:4.10.0-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 postbooks-schema-common - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (demo 
database)
 postbooks-schema-demo - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (demo database)
 postbooks-schema-empty - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (empty 
database)
 postbooks-schema-quickstart - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite 
(quickstart database)
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted reconserver 0.13.3-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:45:28 +0100
Source: reconserver
Binary: reconserver
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 0.13.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 reconserver - lightweight SIP conferencing service
Closes: 850244
Changes:
 reconserver (0.13.3-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Update Build-Deps for reSIProcate 1.11.0~beta1. (Closes: #850244)
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Accepted resiprocate 1:1.11.0~beta1-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:19:41 +0100
Source: resiprocate
Binary: libresiprocate-1.11 libresiprocate-1.11-dev librecon-1.11 
librecon-1.11-dev libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11 
libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev repro resiprocate-turn-server 
resiprocate-turn-server-psql sipdialer telepathy-resiprocate
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1:1.11.0~beta1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 librecon-1.11 - reSIProcate conversation manager - shared libraries
 librecon-1.11-dev - reSIProcate conversation manager - development files
 libresiprocate-1.11 - reSIProcate SIP stack - shared libraries
 libresiprocate-1.11-dev - reSIProcate SIP stack - development files
 libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11 - reSIProcate TURN client (reTurn) - shared 
libraries
 libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev - reSIProcate TURN client (reTurn) - 
development files
 repro  - reSIProcate SIP stack - lightweight SIP proxy daemon
 resiprocate-turn-server - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 resiprocate-turn-server-psql - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 sipdialer  - reSIProcate SIP stack - click-to-call utility
 telepathy-resiprocate - SIP Connection Manager for Telepathy Framework
Changes:
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 .
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   * Fix extraction of RTCP values for HEP.
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Accepted captagent 6.1.0.20-3 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:09:31 +0100
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Version: 6.1.0.20-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 captagent  - HOMER SIP capture agent
Closes: 845827
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted virglrenderer 0.5.0-2 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-01-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Source: virglrenderer
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Version: 0.5.0-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian QA Group <packa...@qa.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 libvirglrenderer-dev - virtual GPU for KVM virtualization - headers
 libvirglrenderer0 - virtual GPU for KVM virtualization
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted syslog-nagios-bridge 1.0.3-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-01-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Version: 1.0.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian Monitoring Maintainers 
<pkg-monitoring-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 syslog-nagios-bridge - Syslog to Nagios integration
Changes:
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 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Improve handling of unusual values in host or tag fields.
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installing kernel debug symbols on stretch?

2017-01-14 Thread Daniel Pocock


I notice the dbg package for the kernel was moved, but it doesn't appear
to be installable.


I've added the necessary entry to /etc/apt/sources.list:


deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ stretch-debug main
non-free contrib


and then I try to get the package:


# apt-get install -t stretch-debug linux-image-amd64-dbgsym
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree  Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 linux-image-amd64-dbgsym : Depends: linux-image-4.8.0-2-amd64-dbgsym
but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.



It looks like the kernel was built over a week ago:

# uname -aLinux srv1 4.8.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.8.15-2 (2017-01-04)
x86_64 GNU/Linux

so would the dbgsym package still be in Incoming?

Regards,

Daniel



Accepted ganglia-nagios-bridge 1.2.1-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2017-01-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 09:50:33 +0100
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Version: 1.2.1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian Monitoring Maintainers 
<pkg-monitoring-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 ganglia-nagios-bridge - cluster monitoring toolkit - scalable Nagios 
integration
Changes:
 ganglia-nagios-bridge (1.2.1-1) unstable; urgency=high
 .
   * New upstream release.
   * Start successfully even when command_pipe not defined.
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Accepted postbooks-updater 2.4.0-1 (source amd64) into experimental

2017-01-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 postbooks-updater - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (database update 
manager)
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 .
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Accepted postbooks-schema 1:4.10.0-1 (source all) into experimental

2017-01-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 postbooks-schema-common - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (demo 
database)
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database)
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Accepted postbooks 4.10.0-1 (source amd64) into experimental

2017-01-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:05:31 +0100
Source: postbooks
Binary: libxtuplecommon1 libxtuplecommon-dev postbooks
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4.10.0-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 libxtuplecommon-dev - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (development 
package)
 libxtuplecommon1 - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (shared libraries)
 postbooks  - multi-user accounting / CRM / ERP suite (GUI)
Changes:
 postbooks (4.10.0-1) experimental; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release.
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Accepted openrpt 3.3.12-1 (source amd64) into experimental

2017-01-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:33:59 +0100
Source: openrpt
Binary: libopenrpt1v5 openrpt libopenrpt-dev
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 3.3.12-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 libopenrpt-dev - graphical SQL report writer, designer and rendering engine 
(devel
 libopenrpt1v5 - graphical SQL report writer, designer and rendering library
 openrpt- graphical SQL report writer, designer and rendering engine
Changes:
 openrpt (3.3.12-1) experimental; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream release.
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Accepted csvimp 0.5.4-1 (source amd64) into experimental

2017-01-12 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:51:39 +0100
Source: csvimp
Binary: csvimp libcsvimp-dev
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 0.5.4-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian xTuple Maintainers 
<pkg-xtuple-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 csvimp - CSV data import tool for xTuple applications
 libcsvimp-dev - CSV data import tool for xTuple applications (development 
files)
Changes:
 csvimp (0.5.4-1) experimental; urgency=medium
 .
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Accepted resiprocate 1:1.11.0~alpha10-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2016-12-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:03:48 +0100
Source: resiprocate
Binary: libresiprocate-1.11 libresiprocate-1.11-dev librecon-1.11 
librecon-1.11-dev libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11 
libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev repro resiprocate-turn-server 
resiprocate-turn-server-psql sipdialer telepathy-resiprocate
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1:1.11.0~alpha10-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 librecon-1.11 - reSIProcate conversation manager - shared libraries
 librecon-1.11-dev - reSIProcate conversation manager - development files
 libresiprocate-1.11 - reSIProcate SIP stack - shared libraries
 libresiprocate-1.11-dev - reSIProcate SIP stack - development files
 libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11 - reSIProcate TURN client (reTurn) - shared 
libraries
 libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev - reSIProcate TURN client (reTurn) - 
development files
 repro  - reSIProcate SIP stack - lightweight SIP proxy daemon
 resiprocate-turn-server - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 resiprocate-turn-server-psql - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 sipdialer  - reSIProcate SIP stack - click-to-call utility
 telepathy-resiprocate - SIP Connection Manager for Telepathy Framework
Closes: 848652
Changes:
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 .
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   * OpenSSLInit: fix code to free compression methods (Closes: #848652)
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Re: contacting all bug reporters for a package?

2016-12-19 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 19/12/16 22:47, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:15:33PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 19/12/16 21:57, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:11:27AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there any easy way to contact everybody who made a bug report against
>>>> a package and ask them to check if the latest upload fixes it?  Or is
>>>> there any script for maintainers to do this?
>>>
>>> I would expect the majority of your users observed the bug on an 
>>> (often production) system running jessie or older stable.
>>>
>>> It is not possible for such users to try random packages from unstable.
>>
>> Well, if it really deserves to graduate from unstable to the next stable
>> release, somebody is going to have to test it sooner or later.
>> Hopefully sooner.  In my own environment I observed that NFS on jessie
>> was less reliable than on wheezy.
> 
> People running production systems with hundreds of thousands of users 
> are definitely not the ones who should test packages from unstable in
> these environments.
> 

So who should test and how should they do it?

Should Debian stop distributing packages like this if they don't get
tested sufficiently?


>>>> If somebody has opened 2 ore more bugs maybe they may prefer to only
>>>> receive a single email summarizing all their bugs for that package.
>>>>
>>>> For example, nfs-utils has over 100 active bug reports and although I
>>>> spent some time updating it I'm not keen to go through all the bugs one
>>>> by one.
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> Are you fully committed to spend time debugging every problem where
>>> a user confirmed that it is still present?
>>
>> I don't think I ever promised that.
> 
> If you are not willing to promise that, what is the point in asking 
> people to spend their time on reproducing?
> 

Here is the message I sent:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=793661#10

I didn't ask people to reproduce, I asked them to help review their bugs
against the upstream changelog and "if you have time to test the new
package, your help would be very welcome".  If I asked "please confirm
you can still reproduce the bug on the newest nfs-utils" then that would
be a much stronger statement, but that is not what I asked.



>> However, if users confirm problems
>> that should really be release critical, then that gives the release team
>> greater visibility about which packages are really ready going into the
>> freeze.
> 
> Talking about release critical bugs only distracts from the majority of 
> bugs that might be pretty fatal in some environments but are not release 
> critical.
> 

If they are fatal for all NFS server environments (like the crashes with
the jessie kernel) or they are fatal for a specific type of NFS
configuration then they are release critical for this package.  As
already suggested, Debian would have to consider dropping any package in
that situation if we knew about stability problems and nobody was
volunteering to fix and volunteering to test it.


>>> It might take a user hours (or even days) to verify whether a problem is 
>>> still present.
>>>
>>> It would be a very evil if a user would spend effort after such an 
>>> email, but the next he hears from the maintainer would be another
>>> such request to try the then-latest version a year later.
>>
>> I hope the people who try things will engage with the community as a
>> whole (including upstream) and not only rely on a single maintainer.
> 
> Asking submitters to reproduce only makes sense if *you* intend to 
> further debug all problems confirmed to still be present in the latest
> version.
> 
> When *you* ask someone to spend effort to reproduce a problem, then that
> person can expect that *you* will also spend some effort on that problem
> afterwards.
> 
> Never forget that due to your request to reproduce people might be 
> spending days on setting up an environment for testing whether the bug 
> you asked them to re-test is still present in the version you asked them 
> to test.
> 

After the first round of feedback, I did another upload on the weekend.
I believe each upload has provided an incremental improvement over the
previous version in sid and in each case it has been shaped by the
feedback through the BTS.

Regards,

Daniel



Re: contacting all bug reporters for a package?

2016-12-19 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 19/12/16 21:57, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:11:27AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>
>> Is there any easy way to contact everybody who made a bug report against
>> a package and ask them to check if the latest upload fixes it?  Or is
>> there any script for maintainers to do this?
> 
> I would expect the majority of your users observed the bug on an 
> (often production) system running jessie or older stable.
> 
> It is not possible for such users to try random packages from unstable.
> 

Well, if it really deserves to graduate from unstable to the next stable
release, somebody is going to have to test it sooner or later.
Hopefully sooner.  In my own environment I observed that NFS on jessie
was less reliable than on wheezy.

>> If somebody has opened 2 ore more bugs maybe they may prefer to only
>> receive a single email summarizing all their bugs for that package.
>>
>> For example, nfs-utils has over 100 active bug reports and although I
>> spent some time updating it I'm not keen to go through all the bugs one
>> by one.
>> ...
> 
> Are you fully committed to spend time debugging every problem where
> a user confirmed that it is still present?
> 

I don't think I ever promised that.  However, if users confirm problems
that should really be release critical, then that gives the release team
greater visibility about which packages are really ready going into the
freeze.

> It might take a user hours (or even days) to verify whether a problem is 
> still present.
> 
> It would be a very evil if a user would spend effort after such an 
> email, but the next he hears from the maintainer would be another
> such request to try the then-latest version a year later.
> 

I hope the people who try things will engage with the community as a
whole (including upstream) and not only rely on a single maintainer.

Regards,

Daniel



Re: Bug#848695: ITP: telegram -- Official desktop client for the Telegram instant messaging protocol

2016-12-19 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 19/12/16 17:05, Boyuan Yang wrote:

> Just one (and maybe the biggest) question: how would you handle the
> patched Qt?
> 



Note there is also telepathy-morse[1], the Telegram Connection Manager
for the Telepathy framework (and Empathy client)

Regards,

Daniel


1. https://github.com/TelepathyIM/telepathy-morse



Accepted ck 0.4.4-2 (source amd64) into unstable

2016-12-19 Thread Daniel Pocock
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which JavaScript dependencies really need a separate package?

2016-12-19 Thread Daniel Pocock


I had a look at packaging homer-ui (ITP[1]) for HOMER[2].  It is a
powerful web application based on AngularJS for troubleshooting SIP
applications.  It is particularly useful for troubleshooting many of the
SIP products we include in Debian and also for learning about SIP, SDP
and RTP.

There are a lot of JavaScript libraries included, most from the
AngularJS world, and it is unlikely I would personally make a package of
every one that doesn't already exist in Debian.

I opened an RFP bug for each and used those to block the HOMER ITP bug
so I will see if other people package any of the dependencies for other
projects.  If the list of outstanding things becomes smaller I may step
in to get the remaining ones packaged.

- While looking through the list, I noticed that some of them (or at
least files with similar names) are also included within other web
packages.  What is the latest opinion on when JavaScript libs can be
included in a web application package?

- For those JavaScript libs that have complicated build systems that are
not (yet) supported on Debian, is it reasonable for a package like
homer-ui to simply include the intermediate product of the build, just
before it is minified, into the Debian source package?  This may not be
the "preferred form of modification", but it is not difficult to make
modifications to it.

- The FTP masters have also expressed concern about the standalone
packaging of very small[3] JavaScript dependencies.  Is that still the
same for stretch and beyond?

Regards,

Daniel



1. https://bugs.debian.org/837662
2. http://sipcapture.org/
3.
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-javascript-devel/2015-June/010692.html



Re: depending on libssl1.0-dev, buildd fails to find it

2016-12-19 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 17/12/16 17:40, Christian Seiler wrote:
> On 12/17/2016 04:49 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> In my reSIProcate control[1] file, I included the following:
>>
>> Build-Depends: ... , libssl-dev (<< 1.1) | libssl1.0-dev (>= 1.0.0), ...
>>
>> pdebuild correctly builds it for sid with libssl1.0-dev from openssl1.0[2]
>>
>> In the buildd[3] report, it says that libssl-dev is uninstallable on
>> every platform, it doesn't appear to try libssl1.0-dev
>>
>> Is buildd sensitive to the order of the dependencies when multiple
>> options are given?  Or is there some other glitch here?
> 
> sbuild will always use the first alternative of build
> dependencies. If you're doing this to make backporting easier,
> then I'm afraid that won't work - you'll have to manually
> change the B-D for backports.
> 

I'm really hoping to focus my energy on upstream dev and reduce the
effort for packaging.  Adding another extra step for supporting
backports doesn't feel good.

Multiply this extra effort over all the packages that people backport
and the net effect is that some people will stop backporting or will do
it more slowly and the number of up-to-date backports we have may be
slightly less than what it otherwise would be.

There are similar problems with the change from libmysqlclient-dev to
default-libmysqlclient-dev.

Is it possible for a stable update of the jessie version of openssl to
add something like this:

Provides: libssl1.0-dev

in the control file and would that ensure it works without tweaks?

Regards,

Daniel



Accepted resiprocate 1:1.11.0~alpha8-3 (source amd64) into unstable

2016-12-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Accepted reconserver 0.13.0-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2016-12-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Source: reconserver
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 0.13.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
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Changes:
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2016-12-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 17:50:25 +0100
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Version: 6.1.0.20-2
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Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 captagent  - HOMER SIP capture agent
Closes: 846415
Changes:
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 .
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Accepted syslog-nagios-bridge 1.0.2-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2016-12-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 17:24:06 +0100
Source: syslog-nagios-bridge
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Version: 1.0.2-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian Monitoring Maintainers 
<pkg-monitoring-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 syslog-nagios-bridge - Syslog to Nagios integration
Closes: 846856
Changes:
 syslog-nagios-bridge (1.0.2-1) unstable; urgency=high
 .
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   * Make icinga2 the preferred dependency.  (Closes: #846856)
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Accepted ganglia-nagios-bridge 1.2.0-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2016-12-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 17:12:21 +0100
Source: ganglia-nagios-bridge
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.2.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian Monitoring Maintainers 
<pkg-monitoring-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 ganglia-nagios-bridge - cluster monitoring toolkit - scalable Nagios 
integration
Closes: 846852
Changes:
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2016-12-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 14:00:50 +0100
Source: resiprocate
Binary: libresiprocate-1.11 libresiprocate-1.11-dev librecon-1.11 
librecon-1.11-dev libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11 
libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev repro resiprocate-turn-server 
resiprocate-turn-server-psql sipdialer telepathy-resiprocate
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1:1.11.0~alpha8-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 librecon-1.11 - reSIProcate conversation manager - shared libraries
 librecon-1.11-dev - reSIProcate conversation manager - development files
 libresiprocate-1.11 - reSIProcate SIP stack - shared libraries
 libresiprocate-1.11-dev - reSIProcate SIP stack - development files
 libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11 - reSIProcate TURN client (reTurn) - shared 
libraries
 libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev - reSIProcate TURN client (reTurn) - 
development files
 repro  - reSIProcate SIP stack - lightweight SIP proxy daemon
 resiprocate-turn-server - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 resiprocate-turn-server-psql - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 sipdialer  - reSIProcate SIP stack - click-to-call utility
 telepathy-resiprocate - SIP Connection Manager for Telepathy Framework
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 .
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depending on libssl1.0-dev, buildd fails to find it

2016-12-17 Thread Daniel Pocock


In my reSIProcate control[1] file, I included the following:


Build-Depends: ... , libssl-dev (<< 1.1) | libssl1.0-dev (>= 1.0.0), ...


pdebuild correctly builds it for sid with libssl1.0-dev from openssl1.0[2]

In the buildd[3] report, it says that libssl-dev is uninstallable on
every platform, it doesn't appear to try libssl1.0-dev

Is buildd sensitive to the order of the dependencies when multiple
options are given?  Or is there some other glitch here?

Regards,

Daniel





1.
https://sources.debian.net/src/resiprocate/1:1.11.0~alpha8-1/debian/control/
2. https://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openssl1.0.html
3. https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=resiprocate=sid



Accepted nfs-utils 1:1.3.4-2 (source amd64) into unstable

2016-12-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Binary: nfs-kernel-server nfs-common
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1:1.3.4-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian kernel team <debian-ker...@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 nfs-common - NFS support files common to client and server
 nfs-kernel-server - support for NFS kernel server
Closes: 836542 848115 848145 848277
Changes:
 nfs-utils (1:1.3.4-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Daniel Pocock ]
   * Ignore failure to (re)start service during postinst. (Closes: #848115)
   * Correct location of nfs-utils_env.sh in service file. (Closes: #848145)
   * Use FD 9 in start-statd. (Closes: #848277)
 .
   [ Helmut Grohne ]
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2016-12-16 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:35:47 +0100
Source: resiprocate
Binary: libresiprocate-1.11 libresiprocate-1.11-dev librecon-1.11 
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libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev repro resiprocate-turn-server 
resiprocate-turn-server-psql sipdialer telepathy-resiprocate
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1:1.11.0~alpha7-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
 librecon-1.11 - reSIProcate conversation manager - shared libraries
 librecon-1.11-dev - reSIProcate conversation manager - development files
 libresiprocate-1.11 - reSIProcate SIP stack - shared libraries
 libresiprocate-1.11-dev - reSIProcate SIP stack - development files
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libraries
 libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev - reSIProcate TURN client (reTurn) - 
development files
 repro  - reSIProcate SIP stack - lightweight SIP proxy daemon
 resiprocate-turn-server - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 resiprocate-turn-server-psql - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
 sipdialer  - reSIProcate SIP stack - click-to-call utility
 telepathy-resiprocate - SIP Connection Manager for Telepathy Framework
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 .
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   * Resolve some lintian errors.
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Accepted resiprocate 1:1.11.0~alpha8-1 (source amd64) into unstable, unstable

2016-12-16 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 21:52:51 +0100
Source: resiprocate
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libresiprocate-turn-client-1.11-dev repro resiprocate-turn-server 
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Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1:1.11.0~alpha8-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
Description:
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 librecon-1.11-dev - reSIProcate conversation manager - development files
 libresiprocate-1.11 - reSIProcate SIP stack - shared libraries
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 resiprocate-turn-server-psql - reSIProcate SIP stack - ICE/TURN server
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Re: contacting all bug reporters for a package?

2016-12-15 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 15/12/16 17:43, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:26:52AM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 11:11:27 +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there any easy way to contact everybody who made a bug
>>> report against a package and ask them to check if the latest
>>> upload fixes it?  Or is there any script for maintainers to do
>>> this?
>> 
>> I'm not sure this is a good idea ...
> 
> Me neither, although I suppose it's no worse than being manually
> pinged, which happens quite often for me (often for 10+ year old
> bugs)
> 

Yes, I don't think this would be effective if every package maintainer
was doing it regularly.

Given the significant number of fixes upstream, the significant number
of bugs open for the package, the imminent freeze and the lack of
stability for NFS on jessie (due to at least one kernel bug), I
figured it was a reasonable approach in this case, giving a range of
interested people an opportunity to make the package better.

Based on feedback from one bug reporter, I could have included an
explicit disclaimer/apology that I hadn't read the individual bug
reports, although that was kind of implied by the message text[1]

If doing this again, maybe I would also refine it to try and exclude
the email going to people who contributed patches.  If only a few of
the bugs have patches then it is probably not too hard to thank them
personally while sending the bulk email to the rest.

> In this case, the bug I'd filed against nfs-utils had indeed been
> fixed at some point, so it worked out worthwhile I suppose!
> 

Great, I'm glad my upload may have helped

Regards,

Daniel


1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=793661#10



contacting all bug reporters for a package?

2016-12-15 Thread Daniel Pocock

Is there any easy way to contact everybody who made a bug report against
a package and ask them to check if the latest upload fixes it?  Or is
there any script for maintainers to do this?

If somebody has opened 2 ore more bugs maybe they may prefer to only
receive a single email summarizing all their bugs for that package.

For example, nfs-utils has over 100 active bug reports and although I
spent some time updating it I'm not keen to go through all the bugs one
by one.

Given that a lot of things were fixed upstream between 1.2.8 and 1.3.4
it is quite possible some people can close their own bugs, or even
better, tell us if the bug is still unfixed and potentially RC.

Regards,

Daniel



Accepted nfs-utils 1:1.3.4-1 (source amd64) into unstable

2016-12-13 Thread Daniel Pocock
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testing Debian NFS servers

2016-12-13 Thread Daniel Pocock


Before jessie, I used to see Debian NFS servers of various sizes running
for months without reboots.

After upgrading to jessie, I started to encounter crashes which have
eventually been traced[1] to NFS.  Other users have seen[2] this too.
For anybody trying Debian as an NFS server for the first time, it may
not have been the best experience.

I noticed the nfs-utils package had been needing[3] some attention and
so I've prepared an update to v1.3.4 for sid.

While I've done some basic testing of the new nfs-utils with a backports
kernel on jessie, I'm not able to test every permutation of NFS
versions, Kerberos support, etc.  It would be really helpful if other
people who are using NFS might have a look at this too.

Regards,

Daniel


1. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=847549
2. http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-fsdevel/msg98540.html
3. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=847681



Re: auto-removal and alternative dependencies

2016-12-08 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 08/12/16 16:59, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On 2016-12-08 13:08, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 01:41:38PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/12/16 13:35, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>>> > On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 01:02:20PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> [...]
>>>
>>> I don't think that clearly addresses the case of alternative
>>> dependencies.
> 
> It does when one of the alternatives doesn't exist in the archive.
> 
>>> My packages do not "require" nagios3, although they will work with it
>>> if the user doesn't have Icinga.
>>>
>>> Maybe that clause could be extended to state that packages (may|may
>>> not) include alternative dependencies that are not in main, as long as
>>> at least one of the alternatives is in main.
>>
>> Not sure what Andrey is supposed to be quoting here, but see
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681419#275
>> (Conclusion/ruling at the bottom of that post.)
> 
> Andrey was quoting the section of policy that the TC ruling you mention
> applies to.
> 
> Specifically there's no practical difference between
> "package-in-non-free | package-in-main" and "package-removed-from-debian
> | package-in-main" so far as acceptable dependencies for packages in
> main are concerned.
> 

Reading that entire resolution, it concludes:

6. The Technical Committee resolves that alternative dependencies of
   the form "Depends: package-in-main | package-in-non-free" are
   permissible in main, and do not constitute a violation of the
   policy clause cited in point 1.

7. We nevertheless recommend that packages in main consider carefully
   whether this might cause the inadvertent installation of non-free
   packages due to conflicts, especially those with usage
   restrictions.

so I think that is suggesting my packages (ganglia-nagios-bridge and
syslog-nagios-bridge) can potentially continue to include nagios3 as a
permitted dependency as long as they also have at least one alternative
dependency (icinga) that is in main.

Despite the names of my packages, I'm not encouraging people to install
Nagios and I'm completely happy for people to run them with Icinga or
whatever else they want to try, but I don't want to force them to ditch
nagios3 if they are willing to keep it.

Regards,

Daniel



Re: auto-removal and alternative dependencies

2016-12-08 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 08/12/16 13:35, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 01:02:20PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> I have two packages that depend on: nagios3 | icinga
>> 
>> nagios3 is being removed[1], but icinga[2] is still available, so
>> why can't my packages continue to list nagios3 as a possible
>> dependency for the convenience of those people who continue to
>> use it?
> "the packages in main
> 
> must not require or recommend a package outside of main for
> compilation or execution (thus, the package must not declare a
> "Pre-Depends", "Depends", "Recommends", "Build-Depends", or
> "Build-Depends-Indep" relationship on a non-main package)"
> 

I don't think that clearly addresses the case of alternative dependencies.

My packages do not "require" nagios3, although they will work with it
if the user doesn't have Icinga.

Maybe that clause could be extended to state that packages (may|may
not) include alternative dependencies that are not in main, as long as
at least one of the alternatives is in main.

Regards,

Daniel



Re: auto-removal and alternative dependencies

2016-12-08 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 08/12/16 13:22, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> On 08/12/16 13:02, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> I have two packages that depend on: nagios3 | icinga
>>
>> nagios3 is being removed[1], but icinga[2] is still available, so why
>> can't my packages continue to list nagios3 as a possible dependency for
>> the convenience of those people who continue to use it?
> 
> I would need to check the code, but the auto-remover probably checks the first
> dependency and ignores the rest (just like e.g. wanna-build and britney). So 
> you
> could just swap them and make that: icinga | nagios3.
> 

OK, I will swap them in the next upload

I try to backport things and it would help me minimize the workload if
cases like this were tolerated in sid and testing.

Regards,

Daniel



auto-removal and alternative dependencies

2016-12-08 Thread Daniel Pocock



I have two packages that depend on: nagios3 | icinga

nagios3 is being removed[1], but icinga[2] is still available, so why
can't my packages continue to list nagios3 as a possible dependency for
the convenience of those people who continue to use it?

Regards,

Daniel



1. https://packages.qa.debian.org/i/nagios3.html
2. https://packages.qa.debian.org/i/icinga.html



Re: [Letsencrypt-devel] Certbot in Debian Stretch

2016-11-29 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 28/11/16 18:13, Peter Eckersley wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 12:48:35PM +0100, Christian Seiler wrote:
>  
>> Note that per backports rules, $RELEASE_N-backports must track
>> $RELEASE_N_PLUS_1, so if you remove certbot from Stretch, you'll
>> also have to remove it from jessie-backports.
> 
> Thank you for pointing this out Christian. This policy removes what might have
> been the simplest option, and seems to mean that we'll want to work hard on a 
> plan
> where Certbot is in Stretch in a way that works both for us upstream and for
> the Debian release team.
> 

This would probably mean making sure the client is checking the network
API version and giving the user helpful, distro-specific instructions if
there is a mismatch, e.g. a Debian user would see a message "The Let's
Encrypt API no longer supports your client version, it is now essential
for you to install certbot by (running apt-get upgrade | using
$RELEASE_N-backports)"

To get the message exactly right, it would be useful if the certbot
utility would actually check the apt catalog for both an SRU and
backport and tell the user exactly which one is sufficient to get them
going again.

Regards,

Daniel



Re: [Letsencrypt-devel] Certbot in Debian Stretch

2016-11-24 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 24/11/16 17:39, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 05:22:29PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> ...
>> For networked services, it is different.
>>
>> Debian has already been carrying updated versions of Firefox and
>> Chromium in stable including bundled dependencies too.  Maybe we need to
>> have an objective way of deciding which other projects genuinely deserve
>> the same treatment.
>> ...
> 
> The problem with Firefox/Chromium is not "networked services".
> 
> The problem is that it is not feasible to backport all security fixes
> to a 3 year old version of such a browser.
> 
> And the "objective way of deciding" is that not shipping any web browser 
> would not be a realistic option.
> 
> For nearly any other package, not shipping it in a stable is the better 
> option for Debian.
> 

Why do you say it is the better option?

If a package is very useful and has made certain efforts to be stable
(e.g. not arbitrarily changing the command line syntax) and it is a leaf
package, maybe it is time to consider it?

The alternative is that more and more frequently, the user is tempted to
get things from upstream apt repositories.  If many upstreams go down
that path and more users accept it as normal, the net result may be even
worse.

Regards,

Daniel



Re: [Letsencrypt-devel] Certbot in Debian Stretch

2016-11-24 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 24/11/16 16:37, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 02:45:26PM +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016, at 13:39, Philipp Kern wrote:
>>> So if you, as an upstream maintainer, have a change that is needed for
>>> compatibility with changes in network APIs and the change is reviewable
>>> by humans, a stable update could be possible. It's still on a
>>> case-by-case basis, so you would need to ask and the Release Team cannot
>>> approve what they do not know about.
>>
>> There are more cases where Debian stable is getting new upstream
>> releases.
>> It's mostly to keep up with the security (MySQL, PHP),
>> ...
> 
> These are long-term supported upstream stable branches.
> 
> Debian cannot just sacrifice stability by throwing the latest upstream 
> release of some random packages into stable.
> 
> And rewarding an upstream not able or willing to provide stability would 
> also set the incentive the wrong way.
> 

"not able or willing to provide stability" is rather broad.

I agree that for compilers and scripting languages a lot of stability is
essential.

For networked services, it is different.

Debian has already been carrying updated versions of Firefox and
Chromium in stable including bundled dependencies too.  Maybe we need to
have an objective way of deciding which other projects genuinely deserve
the same treatment.

> If it is likely that some packages cannot be supported until the end of 
> the (non-LTS) lifetime of stretch in mid/end-2020, then please file RC 
> bugs to keep these packages out of stretch.
> 


An RC bug against libmusicbrainz5-1 would impact packages that are in
the default desktop.


$ apt-cache rdepends --recurse --no-suggests --no-recommends \
libmusicbrainz5-1




Re: Crowd funding campaign to package browserify in debian

2016-11-24 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 24/11/16 09:31, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> On Thursday 24 November 2016 01:31 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> If you can expand the scope of your crowdfunding effort to cover
>> those libraries needed for homer-ui, then I'm happy to promote
>> the crowdfunding in the HOMER and free RTC communities.
> 
> Can you ask the upstream to create a list of dependencies
> (preferably in package.json format so we can use our existing tools
> to create a tracker)? Without this, we cannot know how many
> dependencies and how complex the packaging is.
> 
> 

The list includes the contents of this directory:

https://github.com/sipcapture/homer-ui/tree/master/lib

and this subdirectory (all these are Angular JS deps):

https://github.com/sipcapture/homer-ui/tree/master/lib/angular-third



They are removing Highcharts, it is very-non-free and requires a
payment.  There is a Github issue for tidying up the other lib/*
contents to make it easier for a package maintainer to work with the tree:

https://github.com/sipcapture/homer-ui/issues/81

Regards,

Daniel



Re: [Letsencrypt-devel] Certbot in Debian Stretch

2016-11-24 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 24/11/16 00:06, Peter Eckersley wrote:

> So Let's Encrypt definitely wants to get to a place where we have some very
> stable APIs for other people to code against. We're trying to do that with the
> Certbot command line itself, working hard to ensure that if people upgrade, it
> doesn't break scripts they might have written around the client. And in the
> long run, I suspect ACME will mature and stabilise too.  But it's especially
> tricky to expect long-run-future-compatibility from a service that's only been
> online for a year.
> 


Personally, I haven't seen a strong response to this challenge in any
previous discussions like this.  It has been raised before.

The rational for the freeze is that we don't want things to break after
a release is declared stable.

For those things that use a networked API, however, they break anyway.
Therefore, the logic we apply to the terms "freeze" and "stable" becomes
very shaky.  Sure, if somebody runs their own locally hosted version of
the service (e.g. boulder), they may be happy to have the same client
forever as well.  These cases are probably very limited though.

The fact that a project tries to keep the command line API (and maybe
API and ABI) 100% backwards compatible is a very good thing, as you
point out, people script a lot of this stuff.

As well as the real-time communication projects I mentioned in my
earlier reply, this type of situation also arises with a whole range of
other network APIs these days, for example, the MusicBrainz[1] API used
by libmusicbrainz[2] for various music players or the libphonenumber[3]
library that tracks telephone area codes and country codes.

Debian's users, including developers, often want the benefits of these
services but the upstream developers of these services, especially if
they are volunteers, are often unable to keep up with all the
obligations for making stable release updates on every distribution.

Regards,

Daniel


1. https://musicbrainz.org/
2. https://packages.qa.debian.org/libm/libmusicbrainz5.html
3. https://packages.qa.debian.org/libp/libphonenumber.html



Re: Crowd funding campaign to package browserify in debian

2016-11-24 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 24/11/16 06:26, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> On Thursday 24 November 2016 01:25 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> Would you be interested in helping package JS dependencies for 
>> homer-ui[1] in Debian?
> 
> Right now, my plates are full. I will have a look once I complete
> gulp and webpack.
> 
>> We already have a homer-api package[2] but it is most useful with
>> the UI.  There may be some overlap with some of the JavaScript
>> you already plan to package.
> 
> That would be a bonus.
> 

If you can expand the scope of your crowdfunding effort to cover those
libraries needed for homer-ui, then I'm happy to promote the
crowdfunding in the HOMER and free RTC communities.

Regards,

Daniel



Re: Crowd funding campaign to package browserify in debian

2016-11-23 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 23/11/16 17:42, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> On Friday 11 November 2016 05:04 PM, Pirate Praveen wrote:
>> We have already completed 19 days of work (120 new packages and
>> 8 updates). We raised only half the target and completed close to
>> the same amount of work.
> 
> We are onto our second round of crowd funding 
> https://www.generosity.com/community-fundraising/debian-browserify-2
>
>  libjs-fuzzaldrin-plus (required for gitlab) and many other node
> modules are now built using grunt and now targeting gulp and
> webpack in our second round. gulp and webpack is needed for babel,
> which is a build dependency of handlebars (required for diaspora).
> gulp is also needed for at.js, which is a dependency of pagure.
> 

Would you be interested in helping package JS dependencies for
homer-ui[1] in Debian?

We already have a homer-api package[2] but it is most useful with the
UI.  There may be some overlap with some of the JavaScript you already
plan to package.

Regards,

Daniel


1. https://github.com/sipcapture/homer-ui
2. https://packages.qa.debian.org/h/homer-api.html



Re: Certbot in Debian Stretch

2016-11-23 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 23/11/16 09:57, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On Tue, November 22, 2016 02:40, Peter Eckersley wrote:
>> I'm an upstream developer for Certbot, previously known as the Let's
>> Encrypt client (https://certbot.eff.org). Certbot is a flexible and very
> popular
>> way to get certificates from Let's Encrypt;
> 
> Thanks a lot for your efforts. This is really useful indeed.
> 
>> The ACME protocol that it uses to talk to Let's Encrypt is also rapidly
>> evolving through an IETF working group
>> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/acme/charter/), and the Let's Encrypt
>> server-side codebase (https://github.com/letsencrypt/boulder) is
>> currently working with an ACME backwards compatibilty window of 6-12
>> months, but probably not longer than that.
> 
> I'm a bit surprised by this policy. To my knowledge, concepts like automation
> and "hassle-free" are central to the Let's Encrypt concept. Obviously are
> online for more than a year, so installing Let's Encrypt certificates on them
> is not quite automated or hassle-free if you need to upgrade certbot several
> times during the projected lifetime of the server.
> 
> Is it really necessary to have such, in my opinion, really short API
> lifetimes?
> Surely you want to extend and develop it, but this can be done while keeping
> compatibility with existing clients in the field.
> 

I'm guessing that the Let's Encrypt people eventually hope to achieve
that, but they are saying they are not going to make that level of
commitment before the next Debian freeze.



Re: Certbot, Ring in Debian Stretch

2016-11-21 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 22/11/16 02:40, Peter Eckersley wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm an upstream developer for Certbot, previously known as the Let's Encrypt
> client (https://certbot.eff.org). Certbot is a flexible and very popular way
> to get certificates from Let's Encrypt; it's issued about 300,000 currently
> active TLS certs to Debian servers (and a lot more to Ubuntu servers). We hope
> that over time, a lot of server software can be well-integrated with Certbot
> in order to use authenticated TLS connections by default (see
> https://certbot.eff.org/docs/using.html#plugins for some of the integration
> efforts to date).
> 
> We're writing to figure out a plan for Certbot versioning and updates for
> Stretch's stable lifetime. Certbot is still a fairly rapidly-improving,
> not-quite-1.0 piece of software. The ACME protocol that it uses to talk to 
> Let's
> Encrypt is also rapidly evolving through an IETF working group
> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/acme/charter/), and the Let's Encrypt
> server-side codebase (https://github.com/letsencrypt/boulder) is 
> currently working with an ACME backwards compatibilty window of 6-12 months,
> but probably not longer than that.
> 

Thanks for raising this Peter

This is not just an issue for certbot, it is also an issue for any
package that supports an evolving networked service.  It is a particular
challenge for software in the real-time communications space (e.g. SIP,
XMPP, WebRTC).  The exciting new peer-to-peer Ring[1] client is also
evolving quite rapidly like certbot and stale versions will impact the
success of that initiative.

The approach we take with the freeze is good for certain types of things
(e.g. compilers and scripting languages) and backports has helped
mitigate this as you already observe.


> In order to both ensure that Certbot remains compatible with the deployed
> Let's Encrypt service, and to ensure that users have as good an experience as
> possible when they use Certbot, we do not think it would be wise to support a
> specific version of Certbot from the Stretch freeze early next year through to
> the EOL of that release.
> 
> There seem to be a few options available:

I'd like to suggest an additional point relevant to all of the options:
how well does the certbot client react when it is no longer usable?
Does the protocol include a mechanism to check the version?  Does the
client give an explicit error telling the user to update the client and
can it be tweaked so that Debian users are shown a message about getting
the latest package from stable-backports?  Or will the user see some
random error that doesn't mention the client version at all?


> 
> 1. Leave Certbot out of the Debian Stretch release, and rely on
> backports as the recommended way to run Certbot on Debian. That's what we
> currently do with Jessie:
> 
> https://certbot.eff.org/#debianjessie-apache
> 
> 2. Periodically declare a released version of Certbot to be well-tested,
> stable, and free of detectable regressions or breakage of existing workflows,
> and include it in Stretch's stable-updates repo.  We're currently trying the
> Ubuntu equivalent of this process out with a proposed xenial SRU from
> letsencrypt 0.4.1 to Certbot 0.9.3:
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-letsencrypt/+bug/1640978
> 
> We expect that such updates would occur every ~3-6 months. If the Debian
> development community agreed to such a plan, we'd feel comfortable working
> with it.
> 


>From my experience as an upstream developer, trying to do this type of
thing for multiple distributions becomes time consuming and tedious and
it takes time away from the upstream work.  If your primary focus is
upstream development and standards work it can be difficult to also be
fluent in the rules of every distribution, it becomes quite tedious.
This workflow tends to work better where other volunteers within the
distribution are willing to prepare the uploads to stable-updates and
equivalents.


> 3. Someone could maintain a fork of a near-future Certbot release for the ~5
> year lifecycle of the Stretch Debian release. The upstream team definitely
> doesn't think this is a good idea, and we don't have the resources to support
> such an effort.
> 
> Looking at the three options above, I think we'd default to doing 1, but we
> would be open to pursuing option 2 if the Debian developer community supports
> it, and think there could be advantages in terms of allowing other packages to
> assume that Certbot is installable, or even Depend: on it, for enabling TLS.
> 
> 





1. https://packages.qa.debian.org/r/ring.html



Accepted qpid-proton 0.14.0-3 (source) into unstable

2016-11-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Qpid Proton
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Python 3.
Closes: 828521 843024
Changes:
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   * Bumped debhelper compat version to 10
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openssl 1.1.x for travis-ci users

2016-11-20 Thread Daniel Pocock

Many upstreams use travis-ci or another CI solution to automatically
build their code and run unit tests

It will be hard for such upstreams to incorporate OpenSSL 1.1.x support
if they can't easily get the package in there.

What is the suggested way for such upstream projects to solve this?

Here is how I currently get the dependencies for my resiprocate builds:

https://github.com/resiprocate/resiprocate/blob/master/.travis.yml



Re: testing OpenSSL 1.1.0 on jessie

2016-11-18 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 18/11/16 21:09, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 02:22:23PM -0500, Zack Weinberg wrote:
>> Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>> I wanted to try compiling some upstream projects against OpenSSL 1.1.0
>>> on jessie, without installing the package though. I tried the following:
>>>
>>> dget -x 
>>> http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.1.0c-1.dsc
>>>
>>> cd openssl-1.1.0c/
>>> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -j13
>>>
>>> and it builds but only 4 of the headers appear to install:
>>
>> Start over from scratch with -j1.  Seriously.  I haven't tested 1.1.0,
>> but the last time I built OpenSSL its makefiles were
>> _catastrophically_ broken with any amount of parallelism.  You
>> probably didn't even get a complete build, and the source code may
>> have been damaged.
> 
> The Makefiles were completly changed in 1.1.0 and it should
> support parallel building now.
> 
> You might want to try -J13 instead of -j13. I've never tried the
> -j option. Maybe something is broken in the rules files.
> 
> 

I unpacked the source package again, dropped the -j and built it like this:

$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc


Now it appears all the headers are installed under debian/ and I can
(try to) build stuff against it as described in my original email


$ find debian/ -name '*.h'
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/aes.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/asn1.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/asn1_mac.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/asn1t.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/async.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/bio.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/blowfish.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/bn.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/buffer.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/camellia.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/cast.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/cmac.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/cms.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/comp.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/conf.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/conf_api.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/crypto.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/ct.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/des.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/dh.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/dsa.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/dtls1.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/e_os2.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/ebcdic.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/ec.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/ecdh.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/ecdsa.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/engine.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/err.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/evp.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/hmac.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/idea.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/kdf.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/lhash.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/md2.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/md4.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/md5.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/mdc2.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/modes.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/obj_mac.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/objects.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/ocsp.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/opensslv.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/ossl_typ.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/pem.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/pem2.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/pkcs12.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/pkcs7.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/rand.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/rc2.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/rc4.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/rc5.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/ripemd.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/rsa.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/safestack.h
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debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/ssl.h
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Re: testing OpenSSL 1.1.0 on jessie

2016-11-18 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 18/11/16 22:12, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 09:15:53PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 18/11/16 21:10, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 03:53:20PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to try compiling some upstream projects against OpenSSL 1.1.0
>>>> on jessie, without installing the package though.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the following:
>>>>
>>>> dget -x
>>>> http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.1.0c-1.dsc
>>>>
>>>> cd openssl-1.1.0c/
>>>> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -j13
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and it builds but only 4 of the headers appear to install:
>>>>
>>>> ls debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/
>>>> aes.h  asn1.h  asn1_mac.h  asn1t.h
>>>>
>>>> Is this correct?
>>>
>>> No it's not.
>>>
>>
>> Could you suggest how I can get a build of OpenSSL 1.1 like this?
> 
> I can't actually reproduce your poblem, it just works for me (with
> -j4, only have 4 cores.)
> 
>> I don't need to build .deb files, I just need it to be within the
>> debian/ tree for me to refer to from other build trees.
> 
> You could also just point to openssl-1.1.0c/include/openssl/,
> 
> Please note that there is also:
> debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/openssl/opensslconf.h
> 
> 

In my tree, that isn't there, this is all that I see:

$ find debian/ -name '*.h'
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/aes.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/asn1.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/asn1_mac.h
debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/asn1t.h


If it is working for you on jessie, maybe there is something different
in my jessie system.  I have some packages from backports, could any of
those impact this build?

Regards,

Daniel



Re: testing OpenSSL 1.1.0 on jessie

2016-11-18 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 18/11/16 21:10, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 03:53:20PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wanted to try compiling some upstream projects against OpenSSL 1.1.0
>> on jessie, without installing the package though.
>>
>> I tried the following:
>>
>> dget -x
>> http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.1.0c-1.dsc
>>
>> cd openssl-1.1.0c/
>> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -j13
>>
>>
>> and it builds but only 4 of the headers appear to install:
>>
>> ls debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/
>> aes.h  asn1.h  asn1_mac.h  asn1t.h
>>
>> Is this correct?
> 
> No it's not.
> 

Could you suggest how I can get a build of OpenSSL 1.1 like this?

I don't need to build .deb files, I just need it to be within the
debian/ tree for me to refer to from other build trees.

Regards,

Daniel



testing OpenSSL 1.1.0 on jessie

2016-11-18 Thread Daniel Pocock


I wanted to try compiling some upstream projects against OpenSSL 1.1.0
on jessie, without installing the package though.

I tried the following:

dget -x
http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.1.0c-1.dsc

cd openssl-1.1.0c/
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -j13


and it builds but only 4 of the headers appear to install:

ls debian/libssl-dev/usr/include/openssl/
aes.h  asn1.h  asn1_mac.h  asn1t.h

Is this correct?



I tried building another project against it by adding these to the other
project's configure:

MY_OPENSSL=${HOME}/debian/openssl-1.1.0c

CPPFLAGS="-I${MY_OPENSSL}/debian/libssl-dev/usr/include ..."

LDFLAGS="-L${MY_OPENSSL}/debian/libssl1.1/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu ..."

but it failed quite badly, probably because of missing headers under
${MY_OPENSSL}/debian/libssl-dev/usr/include



Re: OpenSSL 1.1.0 / transition process

2016-11-15 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 16/11/16 00:01, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2016-11-15 17:42:59 [+0100], Daniel Pocock wrote:
>> Would the OpenSSL maintainers and/or release managers consider making a
>> wiki page about the transition with the most common questions about it,
>> similar to the upstream wiki but with a Debian focus?
> 
> I started one at
>   https://wiki.debian.org/OpenSSL-1.1
> 

Great, thanks for doing that, I dropped in a couple of additional
questions (testing upstream builds with travis-ci, testing on jessie)



Re: OpenSSL 1.1.0 / transition process

2016-11-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 15/11/16 16:54, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Lots of people have posted in this thread that they see problems with
> our current approach to the openssl transition.
>
> Do the openssl maintainers have an response ?

I just started looking at this thread 2 minutes ago.  I really don't
know where to start.

Would the OpenSSL maintainers and/or release managers consider making a
wiki page about the transition with the most common questions about it,
similar to the upstream wiki but with a Debian focus?

The questions which come to my mind (and may already be answered):

- will it definitely go ahead for stretch?

- will the stretch freeze and release dates be delayed to allow people
to catch up?

- is it expected that package maintainers spend time patching for this,
or we can wait for upstreams to support it?

- given the huge number of packages listed on the transition page, I
couldn't help feeling that it would be useful to be able to get some
reports about how many packages have now had a bug forwarded upstream,
how many upstreams have released a newer version with the fix, how many
upstreams have a fix that is not released, etc

Wearing my upstream hat, I do hope to ensure my own packages support it
sooner rather than later.  Some of them will go into NEW though because
they have ABI or API version numbers in the binary package names, so
they won't be available immediately.

Regards,

Daniel



Accepted qpid-proton 0.14.0-1 (source amd64 all) into unstable, unstable

2016-10-31 Thread Daniel Pocock
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Changed-By: Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro>
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