Re: Ethernet interface numbering in etch

2007-03-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Julien Cristau: I think the problem is that you can't know in advance whether the device still exists or not, and whether it will be plugged in later (because everything runs asynchronously). Sure, but hotpluggable PCI(e) interfaces are the exception, not the norm. It seems wrong to

Re: Ethernet interface numbering in etch

2007-03-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bastian Blank: On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 08:15:30PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Sure, but hotpluggable PCI(e) interfaces are the exception, not the norm. It seems wrong to optimize for this case. udev sees network devices, not pci devices. and hotpluggable network devices are common

Re: video codecs in HTML 5

2007-03-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* Maik Merten: img gives clear semantics: It's an image. Animated GIF, anyone? video gives clear semantics: Video. Does it begin to run automatically? Can be paused? Saved? What happens if there are two videos on the same page? Are they synchronized? Which one gets to play the audio?

Re: Alioth lists are too strict in checking senders

2007-03-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz: In trying to send mail to an alioth ml I got: The following message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-Verification failed for [EMAIL PROTECTED]\nCalled: 207.44.202.99\nSent: RCPT

Re: Alioth lists are too strict in checking senders

2007-03-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz: Why bother distributing it over the mailing list? It's rather likely you can't contact the author of that message because his or her mailing system is thoroughly misconfigured. Is 'forced to relay through a gateway' an instance of 'thoroughly misconfigured'? Or

Re: Flash player?

2007-03-18 Thread Florian Weimer
* Miguel Gea Milvaques: I've readed swfdec last version is able to reproduce youtube videos. I supose last version is still not in Debian, so you'll need to compile it. youtube-dl and mplayer work surprisingly well for that purpose. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Bug#414534: ITP: sucrack -- multithreaded su bruteforcer

2007-03-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Warren Turkal: Educational reasons. I could see someone demonstrating breaking weak passwords with such a tool. But you already need root privileges to install the Debian package, which makes the whole thing not very convincing. Of course, it doesn't matter how you get hold of such a

Accepted debsecan 0.4.7 (source all)

2007-03-12 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:17:22 +0100 Source: debsecan Binary: debsecan Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: ITH: uclibc

2007-03-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Simon Richter: I plan to make the package cross-buildable for all of Debian's official plus a few unofficial architectures (armeb for example), split each library into its own package in order to save space when installing on an embedded system Is this really necessary? I think for

Accepted debsecan 0.4.6 (source all)

2007-03-02 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:58:39 +0100 Source: debsecan Binary: debsecan Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ron Johnson: Does the BTS ack *mean* that an actual living breathing human has eyeballed the bug? No, it doesn't. But would an ack from a human being mean that the bug will be fixed in due course? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Nikita V. Youshchenko: What do people look on the following idea: not allow packages to migrate from sid to testing if they have unanswered bug reports with severity = normal? I don't think fiddling with testing propagation in this way is a good idea. After all, even if the package has

Re: Where did Bacula 1.38.11-7+b1 come from?

2007-02-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Guillem Jover: The resulting .changes will get a field like this: Source: bacula (1.38.11-7) which can be used to track back from which source this binary originated. Yeah, but this only helps if you've got a source version to compare to. You could derive that from a binary version if

Accepted debsecan 0.4.5 (source all)

2007-02-23 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:35:10 +0100 Source: debsecan Binary: debsecan Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Where did Bacula 1.38.11-7+b1 come from?

2007-02-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* John Goerzen: sid seems to contain bacula 1.38.11-7+b1, a binary-only NMU for i386, which breaks bacula-console and various other packages due to broken deps. The changelog file is signed only buildd_i386-saens. packages.qa.debian.org doesn't know about 1.38.11-7+b1. Here's the build log:

Accepted debsecan 0.4.4 (source all)

2007-02-18 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:52:59 +0100 Source: debsecan Binary: debsecan Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: P3 capabilities

2007-02-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Matthew Garrett: Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P3 server machines can easily handle more RAM, I've had P3 servers with 1G and 2G before. But desktops are limited (desktop and server versions of the P3 CPU have significant differences among other things). Like any other

Re: Mirror of archive maintenance scripts

2007-01-31 Thread Florian Weimer
* Anthony Towns: On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 03:28:19PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: It is now; the katie - dak rename broke it. Uhm, it seems that it's still lacking James' recent changes. Are you sure the mirror is working? They're there and it is. Grep for Binary-Upload-Restrictions. Oops

Re: source code forensic practices

2007-01-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Yaroslav Halchenko: The question is: are there any helper tools for doing source code validation subject to possibly available snippets of code which might be for illegal activity (ie sending out private information, or serve as backdoors, etc)? There are several commercial bug finding

Re: Mirror of archive maintenance scripts

2007-01-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Anthony Towns: On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 10:57:51AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Is their a developer-accessible mirror (on a non-restricted host) of the archive maintenance which are in production, including (most of) the configuration? There used to be a mirror on merkel.debian.org

Re: Draft spec for new dpkg triggers feature

2007-01-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ian Jackson: To restore a package in state `triggered' to `installed', dpkg will run the postinst script: postinst triggered trigger-name trigger-name ... Is this completely POSIX-conforming if there are many triggers? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Mirror of archive maintenance scripts

2007-01-28 Thread Florian Weimer
Is their a developer-accessible mirror (on a non-restricted host) of the archive maintenance which are in production, including (most of) the configuration? There used to be a mirror on merkel.debian.org, but it's no longer current. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Accepted debsecan 0.4.3.5 (source all)

2007-01-25 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:49:17 +0100 Source: debsecan Binary: debsecan Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.3.5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted xml2rfc 1.32.dfsg-1 (source all)

2007-01-20 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:14:41 +0100 Source: xml2rfc Binary: xml2rfc Architecture: source all Version: 1.32.dfsg-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL

Re: Archive signing key for 2007?

2007-01-18 Thread Florian Weimer
* Anthony Towns: The key we'll be using (and indeed are already using) is available as: http://ftp-master.debian.org/archive-key-4.0.asc It's expected to be valid until sometime after lenny is released. Thanks a lot for stopping the yearly key rollover madness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: db.debian.org (and related infrastructure) updates

2006-12-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Paul Waring: I've seen a lot of announcement/verification emails (such as Amazon orders) which go out from an address that does not exist - In the SMTP envelope? I strongly doubt that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Accepted debsecan 0.4.3.4 (source all)

2006-12-24 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 18:52:21 +0100 Source: debsecan Binary: debsecan Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.3.4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: possible grave bug in debian-installer or ifupdown?

2006-12-18 Thread Florian Weimer
* Gabor Gombas: On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:23:13AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: But who has created the allow-hotplug-line? I thought hotplug is dead? Doesn't matter, udev handles allow-hotplug interfaces just fine, I use it on several machines. I've seen it quite a few times that udev

Accepted debsecan 0.4.3.3 (source all)

2006-12-14 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:06:11 +0100 Source: debsecan Binary: debsecan Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.3.3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Names of ROOT packages in Debian

2006-12-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Steffen Moeller: I do not like project in the package name too much. If you think of how www.r-project.org is presented in Debian (as r-..) then it would sound strange to me to add project to a project that does not have project in its name. It's less confusing than root-system, I

Re: Names of ROOT packages in Debian

2006-12-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Christian Holm Christensen: Shared libraries: libroot5.13 for the core libs libroot-*5.13 for add-on libs Libdevel pkgs:libroot-dev for the core libs libroot-*-dev for add-on libs These shouldn't be a problem, I think. Plugins:

Re: Accepted lynx 2.8.5-2sarge2.2 (source i386)

2006-12-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Thomas Dickey: It's a #define. But the change to use the home directory is in the wrong place. I'd point out that it doesn't solve the problem, and that the program is still subject to the same issue as reported, [...] This is not correct. Gracious write operations to the home directory

Accepted debsecan 0.4.3.2 (source all)

2006-12-01 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:08:56 +0100 Source: debsecan Binary: debsecan Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.3.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Naming a 32-bit/64-bit specific Java package

2006-11-29 Thread Florian Weimer
* Benjamin Seidenberg: Less archive/mirror bloat. Which is easily nullified if the more complex Architecture: all approach needs more bug fixes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted debsecan 0.4.3.1 (source all)

2006-11-29 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:47:43 +0100 Source: debsecan Binary: debsecan Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.3.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

2006-11-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* David Weinehall: We do rely quite heavily on the glibc too, yet its documentation is nonfree... The manpages-dev package documents most of the important interfaces, and it's in main. 8-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy

2006-11-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* David Weinehall: On Sun, Nov 19, 2006 at 07:13:22PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] ...and where is SuSv3 in Debian (which package?). [...] Nonfree. http://packages.debian.org/susv3 Uhm, no? susv3: Installed: 6.1 Candidate: 6.1

Re: Allowing @ in user names?

2006-10-11 Thread Florian Weimer
* Roberto C. Sanchez: Then, I guess the relevant question has to do with whether or not adduser (and the rest of the components that touch or use the username) are RFC2822 compliant. Most certainly they are not. Embedded NUL characters are allowed in local-parts. I don't think this is a

Accepted debsecan 0.4.3 (source all)

2006-10-02 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:46:10 +0200 Source: debsecan Binary: debsecan Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: XS-X-Vcs-XXX field not (yet) announced

2006-09-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* Joey Hess: To make a Vcs-Svn field work, dpkg-dev needs to be modified to recognise that field. A simple modification but it would need to be done for all the other ones for other RCSes, which could be a problem since there are more and more of them. If we wanted to use a formalised field

Re: XS-X-Vcs-XXX field not (yet) announced

2006-09-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Stefano Zacchiroli: As an answer specific for this case. The field is still an X- field, because I actually don't know how and if it should be standardized. If you use the X- prefix and the field gains widespread acceptance, a transition is needed. Debian might be able to do this in a

Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?

2006-09-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Hendrik Sattler: Am Freitag 15 September 2006 17:27 schrieb Michelle Konzack: If I update 600 Sarge systems to Etch, they would currently install discover as a depends. No, it is only a recommends: Which means it will be automatically installed if you follow the documented upgrade

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-08-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* Goswin von Brederlow: However, patching rred to apply patches in a single run would be a good start because all further optimizations will need it. Why should the number of chunks matter? If you use the naïve algorithm, it does. But rred implements something more involved, leading to a

Re: dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?-

2006-08-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Lionel Elie Mamane: Well, I have found one. Myself. You just have to interpret the part after the second point as the integer part of an infinitesimal: Let ε be an infinitesimal, that is a strictly positive number (that is ε 0) smaller than any strictly positive real number (that is ∀

Re: Please comment the license of vim manual and reference

2006-08-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Carlos Z. F. Liu: [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/03/msg00226.html This talks about a different OPL, not the VIM one. The one below, downloaded from http://www.opencontent.org/opl.shtml. The you may not sell this work (clause 1) looks troubling, though, although there eixsts

Accepted xml2rfc 1.31.dfsg-1 (source all)

2006-08-21 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:43:55 +0200 Source: xml2rfc Binary: xml2rfc Architecture: source all Version: 1.31.dfsg-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-08-20 Thread Florian Weimer
* Goswin von Brederlow: What code do you need there? If the rred method keeps the full Index file in memory during patching it can just be fed all the patches one after another and only write out the final result at the end. Combining the patches is a simple cat. #383881 suggests that I/O

Re: cdrtools alternatives

2006-08-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Nathanael Nerode: In reality, as user A, I switched to using cdrdao for making serious audio CDs and CD-RWs, and for burning disks from .iso files: this uses Schilling's scsilib, but not the rest of cdrecord. What about mkisofs? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Thomas Bushnell: As a countermeasure, the FSF tries to extend copyright to interfaces, so that you do create a derivative work merely by programming to a specific interface of a library written by someone else, without copying their code. I'm not sure if this is such a bright idea.

Re: WTF ? (Fwd: Your message to Yaird-devel awaits moderator approval)

2006-08-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Simon Huggins: On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 02:10:04PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: maintainer addresses HAVE to accept bug reports and mails from non-subscribers. This setting is not correct, please fix it asap. If messages do indeed get through to the list why is this a problem? You can't

Re: cdrtools

2006-08-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Daniel Schepler: And since dynamic linking is done at the time the program is run, this would appear to me to be what applies. In particular, it appears to me that you could satisfy the GPL and still dynamically link against a non-free library, and distribute both, by invoking the mere

Re: dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?-

2006-08-11 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michael Biebl: So, what should I do now: 1.) Wait for a 0.10 release. I think my users wouldn't be happy ;-) 2.) Use an epoch. 3.) File a bug report against dpkg. 2) is the typical approach. If it's not a bug in dpkg, could someone please elaborate on the reasoning of this behaviour. .

Re: dak now supports ~ in version numbers

2006-08-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* martin f. krafft: Thanks to the work of our DPL Anthony aj Towns (and all the other people who have worked on this without my knowledge), I am happy to announce that dak, our archive management software, finally supports the use of the tilde ('~') in version numbers. Should we really start

Re: dak now supports ~ in version numbers

2006-08-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Don Armstrong: Should we really start using this feature even though it violates section 5.6.12 of the Policy? Policy was written like that because the changes delineated in martin's message had yet to be implemented. It should be updated accordingly, but that by itself is no reason not

Accepted debfoster 2.6-2 (source i386)

2006-07-30 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:32:36 +0200 Source: debfoster Binary: debfoster Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.6-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: debfoster Maintainer Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer

Re: Status of iproute package for Etch

2006-07-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Milan P. Stanic: For new kernels there are new upstream releases at: http://developer.osdl.org/dev/iproute2/download/ and they are named as iproute2-kernel.version-releasedate Do the newer versions include documentation of the semantics of the ip commands (and not just the syntax)? -- To

Accepted debfoster 2.6-1 (source i386)

2006-07-23 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:40:16 +0200 Source: debfoster Binary: debfoster Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.6-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: debfoster Maintainer Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marc Haber: The machine in Question is a P3 with 1200 MHz. What's making the process slow is the turnaround time for the http requests, as observed multiple times in this thread alone. Then your setup is very broken. APT performs HTTP pipelining. On my machines, I see the behavior Miles

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mike Hommey: The fix is to combine the diffs before applying them, so that you only need one process the large Packages file once. I happen to have ML code which does this (including the conversion to a patch representation which is more amenable to this kind of optimization) and would be

Re: cgiirc Hijacking

2006-06-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mario Holbe: We did. 0.5.4-6sarge1 was on s.d.o as soon as possible. Since there were no newer version in unstable, the version on s.d.o should have had automatically override even the unstable version. Of course, if you don't source in s.d.o, you don't get security updates :) In this

Re: egroupware upgrade drops several applications -- suggestions?

2006-06-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Peter Eisentraut: The upgrade to the new egroupware upstream drops several applications such as the trouble-ticket system and the forum (because they were unmaintained or the functionality was picked up by something else). I'm not sure how to arrange an upgrade to this new version. On

Re: Bits from the stable release team

2006-06-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Martin Zobel-Helas: After we got some basic overview of what had to be done, we decided to delay all kernel-related updates until r3. Otherwise we would have delayed r2 even more, as that kernel update requires a complete rebuild of the Debian Installer. Frans Pop is currently taking care

Re: A clean way to introduce delay between scripts in /etc/init.d?

2006-06-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Yui-wah LEE: What is a clean way to introduce a delay between the scripts in /etc/init.d ? Attempts at synchronization based on time are doomed to fail. I could force a delay between the two scripts by introducing another script (run at S26) that does nothing but sleep for a fixed time

Re: GBit performance problem with nfs client

2006-06-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bastian Blank: On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 12:53:48PM +0200, Gordon Grubert wrote: Problematic Debian-Client (structurally identical to Suse-Client): - Linux DEBIAN-CLIENT 2.6.15.1 - Yukon Gigabit Ethernet with default drivers (Debian Sarge AMD64) Sarge don't have a kernel 2.6.15. But this is

Re: use of invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $? in prerm scripts

2006-06-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ian Jackson: Florian Weimer writes (Re: use of invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $? in prerm scripts): Ian Jackson: If the old package's prerm fails, dpkg tries the version from the new package instead, precisely to avoid this problem. See the policy manual for details

Re: Uploading packages built against testing?

2006-05-29 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mark Brown: On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 10:27:45AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: Would it be acceptable to build bacula (or any other package with that problem) in an etch environment, or on sid with manually installed libssl from etch, and upload that to unstable? After checking that it works

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Manoj Srivastava: I will not be signing his keys, ever, based on this action of what I consider to be bad faith. Based on discussion with other people who seem to find this action amusing, but not unacceptable, I find that my decision to vaive my personal requirements of two

Re: bits from the release team

2006-05-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Goswin von Brederlow: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Goswin von Brederlow: Doesn't work if the key is ever compromised and a new one has to be created out of schedule. Or when you spend your x-mas holidays away from your system and couldn't upgrade before new years eve

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michael Meskes: This may be a silly question but doesn't my signature only state that I certify this key really belongs to the person it seems to belong to? Exactly. It does not tell us anything about your views regarding that person or the purpose of the key itself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: use of invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $? in prerm scripts

2006-05-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: On Tue, 23 May 2006, Florian Weimer wrote: I suppose it would be preferable to fix the stop target of the init There is nothing preferable about it. Stop targets *are* to exit with status 0 if the service is already stopped. Makes sense. In this case, fixing

Re: use of invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $? in prerm scripts

2006-05-25 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ian Jackson: Francesco P. Lovergine writes (Re: use of invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $? in prerm scripts): Unfortunately sometimes the daemon does not stop for an error in the maintainer script and that prevents upgrading for ever, even when the package has been corrected. [...] If

Re: libdb transition policy?

2006-05-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* Andreas Barth: Why that? It would only affect packages that (correctly or wrongly) also depend on libdb4.2. (And libdb4.2 unfortunatly doesn't have versioning, otherwise, it wouldn't be any issue; lidb4.3 and libdb4.4 are better in that regard.) Berkeley DB 4.2 was compiled such that every

Re: libdb transition policy?

2006-05-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Nikita V. Youshchenko: * Nikita V. Youshchenko: However, if I will build library against libdb4.4 instead of libdb4.2, this will probably break any binaries built against the library - both packaged and local. What kind of interface does libetpan expose? Based on the package

Re: libdb transition policy?

2006-05-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Nikita V. Youshchenko: However, if I will build library against libdb4.4 instead of libdb4.2, this will probably break any binaries built against the library - both packaged and local. What kind of interface does libetpan expose? Based on the package description, I wouldn't expect the

Re: use of invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $? in prerm scripts

2006-05-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michael Prokop: Using: invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || true /etc/init.d/$PACKAGE stop || true would be a replacement already used in some packages like for example at, binfmt-support, dnsmasq, drbd0.7-utils, freeradius, hal, scanlogd, sl-modem-daemon, snort. I suppose it would be

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Nathanael Nerode: (2) Upstream status. There hasn't been a new upstream for sysklogd since 2001. All of the others are active upstream. Have you checked if SuSE's syslog-ng is heavily patched? If it's mostly alright, it's probably a good indicator that syslog-ng is the way to go (and I

Re: #252593: roxen2: Won't purge

2006-05-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Turbo Fredriksson: I've had some time left and I thought I'd spend that to fix some bugs... What should I do with this bug? Roxen2 is only available in 'oldstable' (woody)... But how do I direct an upload there? Or should I put it into sarge, so that it can be removed THERE instead? Hmm?

Accepted debsecan 0.4.2 (source all)

2006-05-20 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 17:38:05 +0200 Source: debsecan Binary: debsecan Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: reportbug defaults

2006-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: On May 16, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that many ISPs now block outbound port 25 (at least on consumer-level service), except for what is relayed through their mail servers. Agreed. It's not reasonable to expect that port 25 connections from large

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Emmanuel le Chevoir: Florian Weimer a écrit : * Jeroen van Wolffelaar: Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new license: the Operating System Distributor License for Java (DLJ)[2][3

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bill Allombert: I don't think it is appropriate to use debian-devel-announce to advertise non-free softwares epecially when we are striving to provide a free alternative. I tend to agree. Any pointer to that discussion ? I could not find any on debian-legal. From reading the license I

Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email

2006-05-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Norbert Tretkowski: (Nice when the error is because the mail was over 50MB.) There are better ways to transfer big files than SMTP. That's presumably why the receving side rejected the message. Apparently, nullmailer cannot deal gracefully with that situation. 8-( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: using /usr/bin/nologin instead of /bin/false in adduser?

2006-05-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Roberto C. Sanchez: Out of curiousity, what happens when someone tries to login and /usr is unavailable? If the shell is set to something in /bin, it will still be used. What is the default action when the user's shell is not available? It's also interesting how this interacts with

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Florian Weimer
* Frank Küster: Most PDF files in Debian are already compressed; at least those which are generated on a Debian system, and somehow TeX is involved are. And those which haven't been rebuilt could well be non-free anyway (because we lack the source code). 8-

Re: bits from the release team

2006-05-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Goswin von Brederlow: Doesn't work if the key is ever compromised and a new one has to be created out of schedule. Or when you spend your x-mas holidays away from your system and couldn't upgrade before new years eve. Exactly, and this begs the question why we rotate keys at all. -- To

Re: bits from the release team

2006-05-06 Thread Florian Weimer
* Pierre Habouzit: Proposal 1: Proposal 2: Proposal ...: Sure, it is possible to devise arbitrarily complex schemes. For a key that is basically used to create a digital signature that protects against tampering along the mirror network, even yearly key rotation is way over the top. IMHO,

Re: bits from the release team

2006-05-05 Thread Florian Weimer
* Lionel Elie Mamane: Why can't we have a master key that signs the yearly keys? After all, we have a long-term unique X.509 master key, so what's the difference with OpenPGP? End users are typically not exposed to the X.509 keys, which makes things a lot easier. By the way, if you've got a

Re: effectiveness of rsync and apt

2006-05-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Goswin von Brederlow: Tyler MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Eaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://rsync.samba.org/rsync-and-debian/rsync-and-debian.html Has anyone ever done some log file analysis to figure out how much bandwidth would be saved by transferring package deltas

Re: Packages containing RFCs

2006-04-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Simon Josefsson: text/xml2rfc From the debian/copyright file: | The software is released under the following license. Note that the | output produced by xml2rfc may include more restrictive copyright | statements, to conform with ISOC and IETF requirements. This is why | some of the

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: On Apr 21, Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KERNEL==*.*, GOTO=persistent_net_generator_end No visible change. There's an error message in the syslog: Apr 21 10:05:30 l udevd-event[6705]: rename_net_if: error changing net interface name eth0.1_ifrename to eth0

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mike Bird: Metapackages are great. Need to add KDE to a system? Wham. Done. If you don't like them, don't install them. The KDE case is different because the dependencies of the kde package are already intertwined. Ideally, tasksel would be changed to use the dependencies of any meta

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: On Apr 21, Guus Sliepen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure there are people who use both ifrename and udev, and if udev Which part of ifrename does not work with udev you did not understand? Certainly nameif works with udev. Why should I care about missed events for my

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Adam Borowski: Idea: if /etc/iftab is present on upgrade, you can consume it, producing relevant rules in that place (and displaying a message to the admin). There's also /etc/mactab, which is processed by nameif (from the net-tools package). Ideally, this one should be processed, too.

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: On Apr 20, Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks like a bug in udev. It should not try to identify devices based on names a user can and will change. I think I missed which alternative design you are proposing. I'm not familiar with udev, sorry. This change

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: On Apr 21, Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This change also broke the vlan package, which hasn't got to do much with interface renaming (from a user perspective). New VLAN interfaces are called eth0.1_ifrename instead of eth0.1. Interesting, I think this happens

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-20 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: udev receives the hotplug event for eth0 udev starts dispatching the event for eth0 udev runs ifrename which renames eth0 to eth1 udev cannot detect this and continues dispatching the event for eth0 This looks like a bug in udev. It should not try to identify devices based

Re: libgtk2.0-0: changelog.Debian.gz is not an upstream changelog

2006-04-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Christian Marillat: Apparently you don't understand (or don't care), because this is the second time I file the same bug report (#344125), but as this package isn't a native package the upstream changelog should not be here. Accoridng to Policy section 4.4, it's okay to list other changes

Re: libgtk2.0-0: changelog.Debian.gz is not an upstream changelog

2006-04-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Christian Marillat: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Christian Marillat: Apparently you don't understand (or don't care), because this is the second time I file the same bug report (#344125), but as this package isn't a native package the upstream changelog should not be here

Re: libgtk2.0-0: changelog.Debian.gz is not an upstream changelog

2006-04-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Russ Allbery: Accordingly, for my packages, I mention (as sub-bullets to the * New upstream release bullet) any upstream change that: * Closes a Debian bug (and include the bug closer). * Is a major feature enhancement or a major bug fix likely to be of interest to a substantial

Re: Lintian package-has-a-duplicate-relation

2006-04-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Daniel Stone: Why? If your library's ABI is changing with every revision, you should be bumping the soversion. Or you shouldn't provide a DSO at all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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