Hi, Wouter:
El Lunes, 05 Septiembre 2005 19:52, Wouter Verhelst escribió:
[...]
spam, as in, unsolicited bulk email, was named after a particular
brand of corned beef. See http://www.spam.com/
Not exactly. Spam, as unsolicited bulk email, was named after a particular
Monty Python's Flying
Hi, Andreas:
El Martes, 06 Septiembre 2005 18:20, Andreas Schuldei escribió:
* Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-09-06 17:39:06]:
Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by
law should be sufficient for the wiki content in most cases.
i spoke to a german
Hi, Sylvain:
El Viernes, 16 Septiembre 2005 16:12, Sylvain Beucler escribió:
Hello,
I have a couple Debian packages that I need to patch with custom local
changes. The patches are small and I hence can follow the security
updates from the security team.
However, I wonder if there's already
Hi, Sami:
El Domingo, 18 Septiembre 2005 23:22, Sami Dalouche escribió:
OK, may be an overkill.
But what happens with your solution if skype depends on libskype, which is
not available from debian's repository ?The user has to download several
.debs in order to install a single software ?
Hi, Kevin:
El Jueves, 13 Octubre 2005 09:03, Kevin Mark escribió:
[...]
Hi Thijs and fellow DDs,
something just sprang into my brain as you mentioned the 'm$ office
thingy'. gnome is a meta-package and someone wondered how he could
install 'his' gnome. here is a scenerio:
apt-get install
Hi, Sune:
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 14:27:23 Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2011-01-11, brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.net wrote:
I've noticed a trend lately that I am often asked to forward the bugs I
report to the Debian BTS upstream, either by the maintainers or
automatically by a
Hi, Sune:
On Thursday 13 January 2011 00:12:06 Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2011-01-12, Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net wrote:
I have considered to take this one step further. Close bugs reported in
Debian BTS with a severity of important or less that is a bug that
should primarily
Hi, John:
On Thursday 13 January 2011 19:25:59 John Goerzen wrote:
On 01/12/2011 09:35 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
[...]
But still, let's say that a Debian developer has X minutes to spend on
Debian a day.
Let's be true: it's not that a Debian developer has X minutes to spend but
that a Debian
Hi, Andreas:
On Thursday 13 January 2011 09:19:35 Andreas Tille wrote:
[...]
In short: The Debian maintainer is responsible that a bug will be
reported upstream. I don't see a problem if he delegates the actual
work to somebody else who is able and willing to do the job (but please
be nice
Hi, Peter:
On Friday 14 January 2011 10:29:57 Peter Samuelson wrote:
[Jesús M. Navarro]
If any, bugs you (properly) pass to the upstream developer are bugs
that will cost you not a dime of your valuable time from them on.
You didn't read the rest of the thread, did you?
Yes I did. And I
Hi, John:
On Friday 14 January 2011 16:49:18 John Goerzen wrote:
[...]
I think it is a huge waste of time to expect DDs to go through 400 bugs
just to see if the problem is still there. Just close them outright.
Why the package(s) got 400 bugs to start with? If the problem is there, then
Hi, Mike:
On Saturday 15 January 2011 19:51:43 Mike Bird wrote:
On Sat January 15 2011 01:59:06 Julien BLACHE wrote:
insserv has issues, but it's still an improvement over the previous
situation and, unlike the other new init systems, it's actually
backward-compatible.
I have no
Hi, Mike:
On Sunday 16 January 2011 19:48:24 Mike Bird wrote:
[...]
I filed a bug[1] with a simple patch[2] to give people fair
notice of the pros and cons of insserv but unfortunately
Julien Cristau simply closed the bug without explanation[3].
Regarding your patch, I find the first part of
Hi, Mike:
On Sunday 16 January 2011 23:37:20 Mike Bird wrote:
On Sun January 16 2011 13:40:58 Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
Regarding your patch, I find the first part of it being quite to the
point while the second paragraph is unneeded as long as the information
is included in /usr/share/doc
Hi, Ian:
On Monday 17 January 2011 13:32:33 Ian Jackson wrote:
Don Armstrong writes (Re: Why is help so hard to find?):
A possible hack would be to have insserv ignore any initscripts which
are conffiles which when run without options exit with zero status.
It could probably safely invoke
Hi, Olaf:
On Thursday 20 January 2011 09:51:27 Olaf van der Spek wrote:
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org
wrote:
Then, maybe explicitly request upstream - at appropriate forums and in
appropriate polite wording - to help debian team(s) to handle the bug
Hi, Ian:
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 14:11:44 Ian Jackson wrote:
Thijs Kinkhorst writes (Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze):
In the past such things have not been allowed with the argumentation that
even though stable may contain bugs, users rely on the behaviour that
stable
Hi, Olaf:
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 17:18:58 Olaf van der Spek wrote:
2011/2/1 Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net:
So, may I propose (if not already done) a document that outlines with
enough detail what Debian maintenance policy is and why from an upstream
point of view
Hi, Josselin:
En fecha Domingo, 27 de Febrero de 2011, Josselin Mouette escribió:
[...]
Now, maintainers receive a lot of bug reports, and have limited time to
spare on Debian. Given the choice between:
1. packaging a new upstream release that fixes a lot of bugs;
2. fixing a nicely
Hi, Josselin:
En fecha Domingo, 27 de Febrero de 2011, Josselin Mouette escribió:
Le dimanche 27 février 2011 à 14:50 +0200, Dmitry Baryshev a écrit :
Who should do this investigation? I did it because I know how to debug
this. If user don't know how to debug this, his bug report will be
Hi, Russ:
En fecha Martes, 1 de Marzo de 2011, Russ Allbery escribió:
Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net writes:
En fecha Domingo, 27 de Febrero de 2011, Josselin Mouette escribió:
Now, maintainers receive a lot of bug reports, and have limited time to
spare on Debian. Given
Hi, Ian:
En fecha Martes, 1 de Marzo de 2011, Ian Jackson escribió:
Jesús M. Navarro writes (Re: What bug reports are for):
Hi, Josselin:
You seem to forget the very reason bug reports are here. Their point is
not to offer a service to our users - if you want that, you?ll need
paid
Hi, Don:
En fecha Martes, 1 de Marzo de 2011, Don Armstrong escribió:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
Is *that* Debian's official position? That the bug report system is
not there to offer a service to Debian users?
The BTS exists to help maintainers fix and track fixed bugs
Hi, Russ:
En fecha Martes, 1 de Marzo de 2011, Russ Allbery escribió:
Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net writes:
I think I'll go here into troubled waters but It's my opinion (as
somebody that has worked implementing and policying issue tracking
systems, so I think it's
Hi, Steve:
On Wednesday 11 November 2009 08:17:50 Steve Langasek wrote:
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 07:37:56AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
IMHO, with not very convincing arguments. And no sign of answer about
the real potential problem: would that be another trademark issue.
Whatever
Hi, Petter:
On Tuesday 20 July 2010 14:41:49 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
The number of submissions to the Debian popularity-contest collector
is falling, and has done so for some time now. This can be easily
seen on URL: http://popcon.debian.org/stat/sub-i386.png .
This is mostly caused by a
Hi, Hans:
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 19:38:02 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
Hi community,
well, I think, the main problem is, WHO are the persons, you want to
actiuvate.
[...]
Group 4: People, who decide in business, which OS to use.
[...]
Group 4: Business deciders are a big problem. They only
Hi, Manoj:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 07:17:15 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21 2010, Will wrote:
Also I imagine that it helps that they have some kind of commercial
support behind their projects, whereas Debian has little/none of that.
One of the issues I have faced in trying
Hi, Ben:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 08:09:44 Ben Finney wrote:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
This one [claim of Debian's libraries being out-of-date] always
boggles me and makes me wonder if we should present Debian unstable or
testing as the typical installation. Debian testing (and
Hi, Russ:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 07:55:52 Russ Allbery wrote:
Will ay1...@gmail.com writes:
1, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
This one always boggles me and makes me wonder if we should present
Debian unstable or testing as the typical installation. Debian
Hi, jj:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 10:11:34 j jj wrote:
Years ago, when I chose which linux should be installed to my computer, it
is dpkg which attracted me. No other linux systems have such a feature.
However, ubuntu and redhat both have the same feature now.
The question is : what is the
Hi, Andreas:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 10:38:03 Andreas Tille wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:28:36AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
IMHO we should care about improving Debian, going toward the perfection,
not about increasing the number of users (which should
be a nice secondary
Hi again, Russ:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 14:21:09 Russ Allbery wrote:
Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net writes:
[...]
I don't agree; I think it's very hard to say the same thing about testing.
I already told you that's about perceptions and that each one has his own so
I'll try
Hi, Neil:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 20:28:49 Neil Williams wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:53:53 -0700
[..]
Removing packages from testing does not remove them from any existing
installation, so it's hard to see how the removal of packages which are
plainly not suitable for release in stable
Hi, Don:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 23:51:10 Don Armstrong wrote:
[...]
Testing's primary purpose is as a staging ground for the next release;
while it'd be nice to try to keep it working as a fully installable
version all of the time, progress to the next release is more
important than that.
Hi, Ian:
On Monday 26 July 2010 13:49:00 Ian Jackson wrote:
Brian May writes (Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was:
Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling):
I would really like to see a HTML/HTTP browser based interface for the
BTS. I would have several
Hi Marc:
On Monday 26 July 2010 17:54:29 Marc Haber wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:32:49 -0400, Will ay1...@gmail.com wrote:
Additionally, an HTTP interface to reportbug would be a good idea.
Many new users find it difficult or unnecessary to set up an MTA when
they first install, so allowing
Hi, Fernando:
On Tuesday 27 July 2010 04:00:11 Fernando Lemos wrote:
2010/7/26 Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net:
[...]
How many BTS reports have you closed?
I don't mean to sound offensive here, but this thread is fruitless.
All I see is people talking and talking over
Hi, Enrico:
On Friday 17 September 2010 09:08:39 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
* Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org schrieb:
Some users just don't have recent enough autotools to rebuild the
configure.
They should simply install it. Similar as they need recent toolchain,
make, pkg-config,
Hi, Enrico:
On Friday 15 October 2010 13:39:13 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
* Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de schrieb:
No, the userland code that interprets the exports file does.
So why that artificial dependency ?
More precisely: where's the dependency between a local resolver
and an
Hi, Michael:
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 00:38:41 Michael Biebl wrote:
Hi,
[...]
The idea is, to have a distinct group. Members of that group have
administrative privileges using sudo and PolicKit.
[...]
While I think the idea of using a distinct group for users with
administrative
Hi, Josselin:
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:15:56 Josselin Mouette wrote:
[...]
Le mardi 19 octobre 2010 à 02:12 +0200, Jesús M. Navarro a écrit :
What about the old-fashioned wheel group[1]?
This would be an even worse disaster than “admin”, for similar reasons.
Users of the “wheel” group
Hi, Pedro Paolo:
On Wednesday 27 October 2010 14:46:08 Pedro Paulo Argolo wrote:
Debian
needs better support video cards from Nvidia and ATI video boards
Intel. I had configuration problems because of that, and for a typical
user is a very embarrassing situation. ~: (
You should ask for
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