Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-23 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Russ Allbery r...@debian.org [2009.06.23.0158 +0200]: Meeting in person and exchanging government ID or something that looks good enough to fool people is a compromise position, but I do think there's a general feeling that it's close to a sweet spot in that

Re: Pedantry or clearness

2009-06-23 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva wrote: I've reported a bug asking to change a word in the documentation of emdebian-rootfs. It's written: [snip] What do you think about that? Please keep the discussion to the bug report. IIRC there are about 80-100 bug reports reported every day. If all this

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-25 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Very strange logic. BTW AFAIK justice doesn't identify people because of ID documents. It certainly does. Just imagine what will happen if you make yourself wanted by the authorities and then show your (valid) documents to some police officers. In case you don't

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-25 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 martin f krafft wrote: The government IDs are relevant because when we're collaborating on an OS where there's minimal code review of the work done by maintainers and a well-chosen malicious package could cause millions or billions of dollars in

Re: Running a 32bits on debian amd64 system

2009-07-14 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Mathieu Malaterre wrote: You do not need to be rude when I explicitly quote the actual doc I am reading, which obviously should not recommend the use of chroot FWIW, this is the wrong mailing list for that kind of question. People tend to be more helpful, if the correct form and forum/list is

Thanks to the developers

2007-04-11 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Thanks to all! Many thanks to our release managers and all developers for spending the past 21 months preparing and releasing Etch! Etch is a great OS and a great distribution -- to me it's the best software I ever had. I would switch to something better than debian, but I know that such a move

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Lars Wirzenius wrote: However, changing the popcon debconf question to something like the following might be an acceptable compromise: Would you like to participate in the Debian package popularity contest meter? Blah blah blah. You may also choose to only report

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-13 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 12:21:09AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: The only caveat I can think of (but there might be others) is that it would not be possible to properly count installations that are using corporate (or ISP's) caching proxies (in

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-17 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Presently the number of installations reported to popcon is about the same as the number of subscriptions to debian-security-announce, but I am sure there are many users of debian who don't read d-s-a and many users, who have several -maybe

Re: EULA as well: xsane

2008-09-19 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-09-18 19:19, Robert Lemmen wrote: while the EULA topic is already being discussed: Where is it already discussed? At least not on d-d, as far as I can see/find... Thanks, Johannes NB: Google finds only some ubuntu discussions for me... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: #500000 24 Sep 2008 07:51:01 UTC :)

2008-09-24 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-09-24 11:50, Noèl Köthe wrote: we reached http://bugs.debian.org/50 For the occasion of the 50th Debian bug being reported today, I couldn't resist digging some statistics from bugs.debian.org. Out of the 50 bugs reported so far more than 44 thousand bugs have been

Re: Leverage in licensing discussions

2008-11-07 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 07 novembre 2008 à 00:27 +0100, Michelle Konzack a écrit : The problem is, that even if it is mass production since some time, I can not distribute the firmware as open source since it change the

Re: Leverage in licensing discussions

2008-11-07 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josselin Mouette wrote: Being in favor of open-sourcing firmwares (including those controlling critical security devices in cars) does not mean being in favor of letting anyone ship their own version. In such cases, there needs to be some

Re: DFSG violations in Lenny: Summarizing the choices

2008-11-10 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Palfrader wrote: On Sat, 08 Nov 2008, Theodore Tso wrote: Fortunately for us, at the moment I am not aware of large numbers of highly popular laptops or servers for which non-free firmware is

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gunnar Wolf wrote: But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly handled in a saner way with Evince (or kde-based lookalike) in some distributions? Zillions of

Re: Free solutions for PDF annotations/shared reviews

2008-12-02 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan McDowell wrote: Anyway, I'm probably hugely off topic now. If anyone has experience with Free software and PDF annotations I'd love to hear about it, otherwise I'll try to find some time to build up the SoC work and see what happens.

Re: problems with the concept of unstable - testing

2008-12-16 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Didier Raboud wrote: Romain Beauxis wrote: You can't get both recent *and* stabilized software. For a solid release to be done, one needs to hold new improvements for a while. Yes. But there is a bunch of non-DD people that strongly want to use

Re: problems with the concept of unstable - testing

2008-12-17 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josselin Mouette wrote: Actually I don’t think we should recommend testing at all to desktop users. Why? Except during freeze times, I find unstable to be much more usable, and keep testing for (non-production) servers. IMHO, there is

Re: Josselin Mouette and Planet Debian

2008-12-18 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Julien BLACHE wrote: I'd argue about that official thing that people have been using to qualify d-d-a. It's an announce list for developers, by developers. I'm not sure what's official in there. I'd tend to say anything official is project

Re: Josselin Mouette and Planet Debian

2008-12-18 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Romain Beauxis wrote: Le Thursday 18 December 2008 16:37:38 Johannes Wiedersich, vous avez écrit : The point is it was an 'announcement' and it was perceived as inappropriate (not only OT) by many. I fully disagree

Re: Josselin Mouette and Planet Debian

2008-12-18 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:28:09PM +, Russell Coker wrote: The creation of a fake picture of Manoj wearing leather makes it clear that Joss was intending to make an insinuation of homosexuality in order to offend. I'm really speechless... I mean, even from you

Re: Josselin Mouette and Planet Debian

2008-12-19 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Romain Beauxis wrote: Le Friday 19 December 2008 01:04:05 Johannes Wiedersich, vous avez écrit : Joss, it is disappointing that after all that time since your faux pas [1], you still seem to fail to understand that what might be acceptable within

Re: Josselin Mouette and Planet Debian

2008-12-19 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Loïc Minier wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: What slightly upsets me about the issue is not what happened, but rather that the French appear so arrogant as to think what happened on a world wide announcement is fine, just

Re: Josselin Mouette and Planet Debian

2008-12-19 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Romain Beauxis wrote: I start a discussion trying to explain how misunderstanding can happen and it ends up claiming that french are arogant. I am sorry, if I misunderstood your point as defending Joss's announcement, while you were just trying to

Re: percentage of popcon submitters

2009-01-16 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Josefsson wrote: Merely the number of distinct IP addresses downloading a particular popular update from security.debian.org at least once would be interesting. Did you think about thousands of computers having 'private ips' with some nat

Re: Release update: deep freeze, planned dates, and remaining bugs

2009-02-01 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Adeodato Simó wrote: The weekend of February 14th is going to be our tentative target for release. Please, don't release before ready, but actually about half an hour before that date would be more fun: At 23:31:30 UTC on February 13, 2009, a celebration is expected as the Unix time number

[OT] prime numbers was Re: Release update: deep freeze, planned dates, and remaining bugs

2009-02-02 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
David Paleino wrote: As someone noted on debian-italian, one second later would be just as cool: $ factor 1234567891 1234567891: 1234567891 (i.e. it's a prime number) From my quick check, these events don't seem to be so rare: $ for i in $(seq 1234567890 $[1234567890+3600]); \ do factor

Re: Bug#484129: release.debian.org: packages in tasks should be fixed in priority and removed in last resort after discussion

2008-06-03 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-06-03 19:59, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 04:18:46PM +, Joey Hess wrote: Pierre Habouzit wrote: No it's not. The principal goal of testing is to evaluate what would be our next stable if we tried to release *RIGHT

Re: Bug#484129: release.debian.org: packages in tasks should be fixed in priority and removed in last resort after discussion

2008-06-04 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-06-03 22:26, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 03 juin 2008 à 21:06 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich a écrit : As I've understood it so far, testing is for 'people trying to help the developers by testing the software prior to release'. If too

Re: Bug#484009: removed bugs are marked as 'obsolete'

2008-06-04 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-06-04 14:09, Riku Voipio wrote: ...for a certain subclass of _powerusers_ who are willing to walk through a minefield[1] using buggy software. For more typical endusers, buggy and unreliable software is a just big source of frustration.

Re: Bug#484129: release.debian.org: packages in tasks should be fixed in priority and removed in last resort after discussion

2008-06-04 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-06-03 19:59, Pierre Habouzit wrote: It depends of your definition of usable. I don't think it's usable on a daily basis because: FWIW, let the users decide what they use or want to use. I took a curde estimate by counting what the readers

Re: Bug#484129: release.debian.org: packages in tasks should be fixed in priority and removed in last resort after discussion

2008-06-04 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-06-04 16:11, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: [1] search +testing +lenny on The searches were performed without the '+' to have 'testing or lenny' etc. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

Re: Bug#484009: removed bugs are marked as 'obsolete'

2008-06-04 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-06-04 16:31, Charles Plessy wrote: Our packages are free software, so imperfect ones removed from the archive can be redistributed in third-party apt repository if there is a niche for this. This way, the decisions of removal can be proven

Re: Bug#484009: removed packages are marked as 'obsolete'

2008-06-05 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-06-04 20:34, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 04 juin 2008 à 17:13 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich a écrit : update-manager update-notifier Update-manager *does* have an unfixed RC bug, and the GNOME team is too busy currently to fix

Re: Bug#484009: Bug#484129: release.debian.org: packages in tasks should be fixed in priority and removed in last resort after discussion

2008-06-05 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-06-04 18:36, Pierre Habouzit wrote: No it's not. A user that prefers to have broken software rather than no software (if the option non broken software is absent) should use unstable. I mean it. You can easily use testing by default,

bug closed by $p4m mail?

2008-07-03 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all! One of my bug reports appears to have been closed by a s_p_a_m mail: #325588: kile crashes on auto-save, incurring data loss It has been closed by Theron Landers [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Their explanation is

Re: bug closed by $p4m mail?

2008-07-03 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2008-07-03 08:58, Lars Wirzenius wrote: For unarchiving and un-closing, use the control bot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I didn't know about the 'unarchive' command. Thanks, everything is fine now! Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: Available papersizes vs. default papersizes

2008-08-04 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-08-03 18:44, Frank Küster wrote: I would like to solve a long-standing bug and finally make TeX aware of libpaper and its system-wide paper size setting. Good! However, taking the intersection of paper sizes the different program's configuration files accept as default, I end up with

Re: Should the X packages pre-depend on awk?

2008-08-04 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-08-02 22:28, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 04:48:14PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 09:27:10AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: [snip] So, must these packages pre‐depend on awk? No, but I think we may have a bug

Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?

2008-08-13 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 08/09/2008 03:12 PM, Rudi Effe wrote: [snip] (4) missing eyecandiness: grey and simple icons, no rounded corners, dominating dark grey, low percentage of area used for content/ information (too much frame). Install gtk-qt-engine and configure it from control centre. Johannes $

Re: Amarok: SECURITY ISSUE in Debian Etch and Lenny

2008-08-18 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 08/18/2008 06:08 PM, thacrazze wrote: Hallo, in the Amarok package is a security issue It is fixed in Amarok 1.4.10 (http://secunia.com/advisories/31418/, http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/1/4/10) Please update the packages with the fix. They already have been updated as to

Re: #545996: please inform submitters they need to subs cribe

2009-09-11 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frans Pop wrote: Holger Levsen wrote: But I also think the acknowledgement mail should contain the information that the submitter is not being subscribed by default and how s/he can subscribe. IMHO this is very wrong: the user has already taken

Re: Help offered 2 - opinion wanted about debian.org

2006-10-13 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
HXC wrote: I also wondered what the community finds about the colours and layout used for the website Does it need to be upgraded? Do find a new layout or other colours more appealing? If so what do you have in mind? Or do you think the current theme is just fine? The current theme and