Paris, Nov 7-8

2008-10-12 Thread Luk Claes
Hi I'll be in Paris the weekend of November 7th - 8th. It would be nice to be able to meet some French Debian enthusiasts. If you're available that weekend and are in Paris, please send me a message so I can see if I can fit it I my schedule :-) Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: mixing different upstream sources in one package

2005-11-19 Thread Luk Claes
I'd solicit input from others in case someone has some perl (oops, pearl) of wisdom that I have overlooked. Thanks! Maybe you could consider to add a package psutils-addons or something similar? Cheers Luk - -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Luk Claes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin B. McCarty wrote: Simon Richter wrote: Matthew Palmer wrote: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is dig through the Perl code in merkel:/org/bugs.debian.org/scripts and work out how to add this functionality. grin You can use

Re: Requesting NMU for toshutils

2006-01-09 Thread Luk Claes
in.) make[2]: *** [thotswap.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/luk/tmp/toshutils-2.0.1/src' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/luk/tmp/toshutils-2.0.1' make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2 Any hint to fix this is welcome. Cheers Luk -- Luk Claes - http

Re: yorick package maintainer

2006-01-09 Thread Luk Claes
://keyring.debian.org/replacing_keys.html -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint: D5AF 25FB 316B 53BB 08E7 F999 E544 DE07 9B7C 328D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-12 Thread Luk Claes
disagree about whether it's a bug or not, but in that case, you would want to appeal to the tech-ctte, not debian-devel. ...before going to the Technical Committee. Cheers Luk -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint: D5AF 25FB 316B 53BB 08E7 F999 E544

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-13 Thread Luk Claes
Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 06:48:38PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: But if you read this bug (#307833), you'd see that the maintainer doesn't consider it a bug, and has documented why in the README file. It is a bug as the package is not usable without curl or wget installed

Re: Debian Games Team

2006-01-13 Thread Luk Claes
development and games packages in Debian. You can join that list at: [...] You're welcome to join the group, or say whatever you think about this project. I think it's a marvellous idea as gaming is one of the aspects that is IMHO still underrepresented in Debian :-) Cheers Luk -- Luk Claes

Re: Trivial bug on apt-file (Was : Re: Development standards for unstable)

2006-01-13 Thread Luk Claes
still need to change the config file when curl is not installed. This is IMHO however not a *severe* bug as some packages need configuration if you don't choose to use the default. Cheers Luk -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint: D5AF 25FB 316B 53BB

Re: What's wrong with update-excuses?

2006-01-23 Thread Luk Claes
, or worse? It's just a matter of britney not been running the last couple of days AFAIK (though it has run today... so it will probably be shown as 1 days old tomorrow?). Cheers Luk -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint: D5AF 25FB 316B 53BB 08E7

Re: What's wrong with update-excuses?

2006-01-23 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Küster wrote: Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Küster wrote: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?excuse=tetex-base says that tetex-base is 0 days old. However, unstable has 3.0-13 which was uploaded on Jan 18th: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2006/01/msg01818

Re: etch before vista

2006-03-24 Thread Luk Claes
PS: Please, don't send this kind of messages if you can't elaborate or at least put a smily behind it so we know you don't really mean it :-) -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint: D5AF 25FB 316B 53BB 08E7 F999 E544 DE07 9B7C 328D signature.asc

Re: Keysignings and other meetups (Was: etch before vista)

2006-03-25 Thread Luk Claes
it is to access old data. You might want to check https://www.biglumber.com/ which contains already a very nice interface for all of this. Or you might want to use https://nm.debian.org/gpg_offer.php. Have a look at https://nm.debian.org/gpg.php if you want to be listed... Cheers Luk -- Luk Claes

Re: GPG signing of debian packages

2006-04-15 Thread Luk Claes
- -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint: D5AF 25FB 316B 53BB 08E7 F999 E544 DE07 9B7C 328D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEQPrr5UTeB5t8Mo0RAuutAJ4rIa+MPpapQ0UUgokG6uXBIadEGgCgk3qY xGmvKZajOILXoCkI5w15Sjg= =iKYB

Re: GPG signing of debian packages

2006-04-15 Thread Luk Claes
like to type in my gpg-passphrase more frequently than necessary. Even than you should not need to specify the -kkeyid... Cheers Luk - -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint: D5AF 25FB 316B 53BB 08E7 F999 E544 DE07 9B7C 328D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Bug#362809: ITP: libcrypt-openssl-bignum-perl -- Perl module to access OpenSSL multipresicion integer arithmetic libraries.

2006-04-15 Thread Luk Claes
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libcrypt-openssl-bignum-perl Version : 0.03 Upstream Author : Ian Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://cpan.org/ * License : same as Perl Programming Lang: Perl

Bug#362956: ITP: libcrypt-openssl-rsa-perl -- Perl module providing basic RSA functionality.

2006-04-16 Thread Luk Claes
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libcrypt-openssl-rsa-perl Version : 0.23 Upstream Author : Ian Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://cpan.org/ * License : like Perl Programming Lang: Perl Description

Bug#362953: ITP: libcrypt-openssl-dsa-perl -- Perl module which implements the DSA signature verification system.

2006-04-16 Thread Luk Claes
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libcrypt-openssl-dsa-perl Version : 0.13 Upstream Author : T.J. Mather, E [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://cpan.org/ * License : like Perl Programming Lang: Perl Description

Bug#362957: ITP: libcrypt-openssl-random-perl -- Perl module for RSA encoding and decoding, using the OpenSSL libraries.

2006-04-16 Thread Luk Claes
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libcrypt-openssl-random-perl Version : 0.03 Upstream Author : Ian Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://cpan.org/ * License : like Perl Programming Lang: Perl Description

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-23 Thread Luk Claes
problems... If the meta packages get to testing earlier it's very probable they will not be installable for a long time... Cheers Luk -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint: D5AF 25FB 316B 53BB 08E7 F999 E544 DE07 9B7C 328D signature.asc Description

Re: NMU procedure and /usr/bin/nmudiff defaults

2006-06-04 Thread Luk Claes
and porting bugs (at least) when NMUing for RC bugs... -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint: D5AF 25FB 316B 53BB 08E7 F999 E544 DE07 9B7C 328D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Getting the buildds to notice new architectures in a package

2006-07-15 Thread Luk Claes
by the Release Team, I'm not sure if the news has already reached the P-a-s maintainers... PS. Please reply to me directly, as well as to the list. Ok. Cheers Luk [1] These maintainers are listed at the top of the file http://cvs.debian.org/srcdep/Packages-arch-specific?cvsroot=dak -- Luk

Disturbing uploads (Re: release update: Etch 4.0, Blockers and Goals, Arch status, kernel 2.4, etc)

2006-07-17 Thread Luk Claes
/TransitionBestPractices [2] http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/stalls.html -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint: D5AF 25FB 316B 53BB 08E7 F999 E544 DE07 9B7C 328D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Request for key signing help

2005-05-20 Thread Luk Claes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roberto I am looking for someone to sign my gpg key. I have contacted the three people listed as offering to sign keys in Ohio [0], but I have received no response after a few days. Anibal suggested I ask on d-d. So, if anyone is able to

Re: namespace conflict != package Conflict?

2005-06-10 Thread Luk Claes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Majer wrote: Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Hi folks, I have a noob question for you. I maintain the Cogito package (my first), and it wants to install an executable as /usr/bin/git. The GNU Interactive Tools package (git) also wants to

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-20 Thread Luk Claes
Martín Ferrari wrote: Hi, Hi In our call to move away from net-tools, I want to first start with identifying the packages that still use it: * ifconfig, route: the most difficult ones, both can be replaced by calls to ip, maybe except for some obscure options. * netstat : sstat provides

Re: experimental buildds using too much of experimental ?

2009-03-20 Thread Luk Claes
Mike Hommey wrote: Hi, I noticed that the autobuilt webkit on amd64 depends on the sqlite library package from experimental. This sounds pretty unfortunate, as webkit doesn't require a specific version of libsqlite, and would work fine with the unstable one. On the other hand, as a user, I

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-21 Thread Luk Claes
Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Luk, On Freitag, 20. März 2009, Luk Claes wrote: Below a list of packages/maintainers that use ifconfig/route/netstat: How did you create that list? You seem to be missing a few.. By looking at dependency relations with the net-tools package. I guess some packages

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-21 Thread Luk Claes
Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Luk, Hi Holger On Samstag, 21. März 2009, Luk Claes wrote: Below a list of packages/maintainers that use ifconfig/route/netstat: How did you create that list? You seem to be missing a few.. By looking at dependency relations with the net-tools package. I guess some

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-21 Thread Luk Claes
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sat, Mar 21 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: netstat --- munin Err, isn't munin a hugely complex beasty, that has to be configured for the network, and usually lives on a signle machine and polls others? and does alerting and graphing and is a pain

Re: NEW processing

2009-03-25 Thread Luk Claes
Michael Meskes wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 04:24:59PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Mike O'Connor s...@debian.org (25/03/2009): Yes, there have definately been times when packages are rejected from NEW that only got there becuase of a package addition. I'd say its ... And while the new

Re: Architecture usertags

2009-03-25 Thread Luk Claes
Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, Hi I thought I'd sent out this mail, but apparently I did that when I had just reinstalled my laptop and the mailsetup wasn't working yet. Sorry about that. Now almost a month ago, I asked Don Armstrong to create architecture tags in the BTS. I've always felt

Re: Architecture usertags

2009-03-25 Thread Luk Claes
Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Luk Claes l...@debian.org wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, Hi I thought I'd sent out this mail, but apparently I did that when I had just reinstalled my laptop and the mailsetup wasn't working yet. Sorry about that. Now almost

Re: How to depend on 32bit libs on amd64? (and what to do with ia32-libs)

2009-03-30 Thread Luk Claes
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Adeodato Simó d...@net.com.org.es writes: * Goswin von Brederlow [Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:33:32 +0200]: Mark Hymers has talked about providing a mechanism to ensure source packages stay on the pool when other stuff has been built from them (eg. kernel module

Re: How to depend on 32bit libs on amd64? (and what to do with ia32-libs)

2009-03-31 Thread Luk Claes
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Luk Claes l...@debian.org writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Adeodato Simó d...@net.com.org.es writes: * Goswin von Brederlow [Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:33:32 +0200]: Mark Hymers has talked about providing a mechanism to ensure source packages stay on the pool when

Re: New architectures

2009-04-05 Thread Luk Claes
Vincent Bernat wrote: OoO Lors de la soirée naissante du dimanche 05 avril 2009, vers 17:53, Paul Wise p...@debian.org disait : How packages that run on Linux only should handle those new architectures? Same as for stuff that only runs on i386; port them to kFreeBSD or restrict them to

Upcoming point releases for oldstable (Etch) and stable (Lenny)

2009-04-08 Thread Luk Claes
Hi This is just to inform you that there will be soon a point release of Etch: 4.0r8 tomorrow and Lenny: 5.0.1 on Saturday. In a point release packages in oldstable or stable will get updated. Most of these packages will already be in the security archive, though some of them are fixes for major

Re: base-files changed /etc/debian_version in stable

2009-04-14 Thread Luk Claes
Josselin Mouette wrote: Hi, Hi Josselin the point release of lenny contains a change to /etc/debian_version. This was done without any kind of warning, despite the fact that some packages rely on the contents of this file. There were warnings since December 2007 [1], though you're right

Re: base-files changed /etc/debian_version in stable

2009-04-14 Thread Luk Claes
Luk Claes wrote: Josselin Mouette wrote: Hi, Hi Josselin the point release of lenny contains a change to /etc/debian_version. This was done without any kind of warning, despite the fact that some packages rely on the contents of this file. There were warnings since December 2007 [1

Re: About the current state of the Yum package in Lenny

2009-04-17 Thread Luk Claes
Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, I'm sorry that it took us so much time to make a working yum package, but we were quite overloaded with our work, taking over all the customers of another web hosting company (taking all our time doing support). Anyway, I could today take the time to upload a

Re: Should we still purge GConf schemas from the old directory?

2009-04-26 Thread Luk Claes
Josselin Mouette wrote: Hi, a long time ago, packages using GConf used to ship schemas in /etc/gconf/schemas. Now, they are moved to /usr/share/gconf/schemas. However, during upgrades, dpkg would let the old file in place since it was a conffile. This is why dh_gconf still adds, in the

Re: Outdated config.{sub,guess} package list

2009-04-26 Thread Luk Claes
Simon Josefsson wrote: Michal Čihař ni...@debian.org writes: Dne Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:10:24 +0300 Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net napsal(a): Like lintian, your list falsely includes packages that use cdbs to build, which automatically updates config.{sub,guess}. If you don't build depend

Re: Misc developer news (#15)

2009-05-01 Thread Luk Claes
Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com wrote: Also, seems like lists.alioth.debian.org doesn't have the same functionality. Is there any plan for this? Due to the way pipermail works, removing messages from the archives would break all the URLs.

postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-06 Thread Luk Claes
Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:06:26PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Carsten Hey cars...@debian.org [2009.05.05.1645 +0200]: FWIW, Ubuntu did what I consider the right thing: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21235281/mdadm_2.6.7.1-1ubuntu4_2.6.7.1-1ubuntu5.diff.gz

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-06 Thread Luk Claes
Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 06 mai 2009 à 23:29 +0200, Luk Claes a écrit : Maybe we should also consider changing the default MTA to postfix? Given that the default configuration is extremely simplistic and doesn’t use a percent of either exim or postfix features, I still wonder why

Re: i386.changes vs source.changes

2009-05-14 Thread Luk Claes
Malte Forkel wrote: Hi, I recently noticed that when I'm packaging software sometimes a i386.changes file gets created, and sometimes a source.changes file gets created. I couldn't find an explanation in the New Maintainer's Guide or in the Policy Manual. I guess its something to do with

Re: Bug#531581: Critical problems on hppa and ia64 buildds

2009-06-03 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Küster wrote: [a failed build was wrongly assigned as a RC bug of texlive-base, and since the reason was a problem on the buildd, I assigned it to buildd.debian.org] Luk Claes l...@debian.org wrote: buildd.d.o is not the place to reassign bugs for particular buildds to. If it's

Re: Bug#531581: Critical problems on hppa and ia64 buildds

2009-06-03 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Küster wrote: Luk Claes l...@debian.org wrote: And what should one do with a bug like this? At the moment it's quite irrelevant whether one of our packages has a bogus RC bug. But what if that happens when I'm hoping for a transition to testing? Are you now talking about the failure

Re: Bug#531581: Critical problems on hppa and ia64 buildds

2009-06-04 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Küster wrote: Luk Claes l...@debian.org wrote: That doesn't solve my problem: Should I - make sure that the porters, buildd admins etc. are aware of the problem and simply close the bug? You might want to downgrade the bug and only close it when it is realy solved? And what

Re: Bug#531581: Critical problems on hppa and ia64 buildds

2009-06-04 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Küster wrote: Luk Claes l...@debian.org wrote: Fine, though taking the trouble to talk to the porters might still be worthwile. Yes, but definitely not after I've spend hours of my little Debian arguing about non-bugs with people who don't read what I say and instead insist

Re: Bug#531581: Critical problems on hppa and ia64 buildds

2009-06-04 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Küster wrote: Frank Küster fr...@debian.org wrote: Luk Claes l...@debian.org wrote: Fine, though taking the trouble to talk to the porters might still be worthwile. Yes, but definitely not after I've spend hours of my little Debian

Re: Bug#531581: Critical problems on hppa and ia64 buildds

2009-06-04 Thread Luk Claes
Norbert Preining wrote: On Do, 04 Jun 2009, Luk Claes wrote: Except for arguing, mixing (non?) bugs and resisting to upload an easy workaround might have made things worse btw... And that easy workaround would be??? To only conditionaly use a command that seems to not always be available

Re: Bug#531581: Critical problems on hppa and ia64 buildds

2009-06-04 Thread Luk Claes
Don Armstrong wrote: On Thu, 04 Jun 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: If it is not a bug in the package (in other words, no change made in the package would fix the issue), I see no point in keeping it open. It would be nice, however, is a psuedo-package were created for the buildds (or one

Re: Bug#531581: Critical problems on hppa and ia64 buildds

2009-06-05 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Küster wrote: Luk Claes l...@debian.org wrote: Norbert Preining wrote: On Do, 04 Jun 2009, Luk Claes wrote: Except for arguing, mixing (non?) bugs and resisting to upload an easy workaround might have made things worse btw... And that easy workaround would be??? To only conditionaly

Re: Bug#531581: Critical problems on hppa and ia64 buildds

2009-06-05 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Küster wrote: retitle 530832 maintainer scripts created by tex-common may not assume tex-common to be present in postrm remove thanks ia64, I assume that you have moved the broken remains of texlive-base away manually? He's called Lamont btw... oh right, that's the bugsubmitter all

Re: Switching the default /bin/sh to dash

2009-06-24 Thread Luk Claes
Mike Hommey wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 06:47:07AM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Donnerstag 25 Juni 2009 05:21:45 schrieb Raphael Geissert: I just noticed I forgot to say something: What won't change: * Bash will still be used as the default interactive shells for users * the sh

Re: Switching the default /bin/sh to dash

2009-06-25 Thread Luk Claes
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:10:46AM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote: And so that all users that upgrade do not benefit from the goal of this change? Even better. This is to avoid causing undesirable effects when upgrading. People have always been concerned about such

[Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)]

2009-06-30 Thread Luk Claes
Hi Below the content of a bounce I got when replying to a wanna-build request... blacklisting domains seems to be accepted as the ones in control of its mailservers should be able to fix possible issues, but blacklisting all mail based on the country part of a domain??! I guess it's another sign

Re: Switching the default /bin/sh to dash

2009-07-01 Thread Luk Claes
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Giacomo A. Catenazzi] Hmm, so a switch to dash it is not because of POSIX, but because of better code and lighter shell for our scripts? Which is also a good reason for the change. Yes, it is a good change. I would love to switch every installation to dash as

Re: Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-11 Thread Luk Claes
Christian Perrier wrote: During the last meeting of the D-I 'team' (ahem) which logs can be read from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Meetings, the situation of the kernel packages wrt testing transition was raised. Apparently, having a new kernel in testing (whether this is 2.6.30 or

Re: Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-11 Thread Luk Claes
maximilian attems wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 01:08:05PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: It needs quite some work to get reverse dependencies handled and getting it built on all architectures. Both of which are the main responsability of the kernel team... it is mostly done, beside the strange

Re: mail server broken: are debian reject messages logged ?

2009-07-13 Thread Luk Claes
Alastair McKinstry wrote: Hi, Hi I've just returned from a two-week vacation during which time my mailserver at home was broken (ADSL line problems). In fact the DNS was also unreachable, so mail bounced badly. If you sent me a mail in the last two weeks, please resend. In particular, I

Re: How to orphan a package without being the maintainer

2009-07-17 Thread Luk Claes
LIU Qi wrote: Hi all, Long time ago I ITA(http://bugs.debian.org/430431) a package, prokyon3. Because few persons use this software and I switched to gtk instead of qt after I adopted this package (it is qt based), I use this software very rarely and I want to orphan it. I have not uploaded this

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-17 Thread Luk Claes
Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:19:50AM +0200, Steffen Moeller wrote: Not? Was the originally uploaded package correct? Amazing. Hm. Then, it should be lintian errors that denote a build as a failure, indeed, and these should somehow be detected by the mechanism that uploads

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-17 Thread Luk Claes
Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:44:54AM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:19:50AM +0200, Steffen Moeller wrote: Not? Was the originally uploaded package correct? Amazing. Hm. Then, it should be lintian errors that denote a build

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-17 Thread Luk Claes
Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:10:56PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: Right. However, having sbuild run lintian would allow a buildd maintainer to assess issues with packages by looking at *warnings*, rather than 'just' errors. This isn't something

Re: Switching /bin/sh to dash (part two)

2009-07-20 Thread Luk Claes
Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 06:04:13PM +0200, Raphael Geissert wrote: Hello everybody, This is a follow up to my previous thread, with a slightly different proposal. What actually needs to be done is: * Make dash essential, make it divert the current /bin/sh symlink by default,

Re: Switching /bin/sh to dash (part two)

2009-07-21 Thread Luk Claes
Raphael Geissert wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: It is not like you will be able to remove bash from the vast majority of the Debian systems out there anyway, so it doesn't matter if it remains essential for a while. The goal of dropping bash from essential is not to remove bash

Re: Switching /bin/sh to dash (part two)

2009-07-23 Thread Luk Claes
Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 06:04:13PM +0200, Raphael Geissert wrote: This is a follow up to my previous thread, with a slightly different proposal. What actually needs to be done is: * Make dash essential, make it divert the current /bin/sh symlink by default, make

Re: Switching /bin/sh to dash without dash essential

2009-07-23 Thread Luk Claes
Sam Hartman wrote: Folks, there was a longish discussion on IRC starting about an hour ago about dash and bash. I agree we want to move the default /bin/sh to /bin/dash. However I'm failing to understand why we want dash to be essential. If I'm not using dash as my /bin/sh why do I need it?

Re: Comments on the Changing the default system shell talk

2009-07-26 Thread Luk Claes
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Hi, Hi in the talk you said you add a choice for /bin/sh and you add more freedom. The choice being that the admin may dpkg-divert /bin/sh to whatever shell he wants and he then can fix whatever breaks. Great. We already have exactly that now. There is nothing

Re: Comments on the Changing the default system shell talk

2009-07-26 Thread Luk Claes
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Luk Claes wrote: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: A faster and smaller default system shell is important to a lot of our users. I see this asserted a lot. I am pretty sure that the average user very likely does not care. The embedded system

Re: Comments on the Changing the default system shell talk

2009-07-27 Thread Luk Claes
Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 05:08:20PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: On upgrades you are asked if you want to have dash as default system shell unless you have dash already installed, then we leave it as is. On my unstable box I received dash a few days ago, because an upload

Re: Comments on the Changing the default system shell talk

2009-07-27 Thread Luk Claes
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: I just would like it to be even better. And I haven't seen any real constructive discussion about different methods of providing /bin/sh. Mostly just angry replies along the lines of We don't want to break things. We do it

Re: Comments on the Changing the default system shell talk

2009-07-27 Thread Luk Claes
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes: On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: So the deconf thing is purely a temporary thing and goes away. There won't be a choice left. Users will just get /bin/sh pointing to dash

Re: Comments on the Changing the default system shell talk

2009-07-27 Thread Luk Claes
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Luk Claes l...@debian.org writes: Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Luk Claes wrote: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: A faster and smaller default system shell is important to a lot of our users. I see this asserted a lot. I am pretty sure

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 Squeeze release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Luk Claes
Paul Wise wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote: I'm eager for more details, in particular: In addition: I seem to remember that some arch:all packages can only be built on some architectures due to being firmware for specific CPUs or similar.

Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 Squeeze release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Luk Claes
Daniel Baumann wrote: Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: - which auto-builder will rebuild arch:all packages? especially because this will break packages with 'faked' arch:all binary packages, such as e.g. syslinux where syslinux-common has to be build on i386. This will be solved by an extra field

Re: Launching and l10n NMU campaign for the squeeze release cycle

2009-08-22 Thread Luk Claes
Christian Perrier wrote: Despite the current incertainties about the planned release date, I think it is now time to launch the l10n NMU campaign for squeeze. I agree that it's probably not a bad timing to start a l10n NMU campaign. The process is roughly the following: - warn the

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-03 Thread Luk Claes
Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 01:31:40AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: Le Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 12:47:44PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : I know it is fancy and modern to think that Debian native packages should only be used for things

Re: Where did Bacula 1.38.11-7+b1 come from?

2007-02-22 Thread Luk Claes
be fixed ofcourse... and which is RC after being binNMUed ;-) Cheers Luk -- Luk Claes - http://people.debian.org/~luk - GPG key 1024D/9B7C328D Fingerprint: D5AF 25FB 316B 53BB 08E7 F999 E544 DE07 9B7C 328D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bug Squashing Party -- May 17th - 20th

2007-05-15 Thread Luk Claes
David Claughton wrote: Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: where to find available RC bugs: http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?ignore=sidignnew=onnew=5 I'm just curious - the ignore=sid part means exclude bugs that only affect sid, correct? Which means bugs which affect lenny but are already

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Luk Claes
Gustavo Franco wrote: Let me outline the 'testing' pros and cons from my point of view: cons - * testing metric is too simple, packages are allowed to enter testing only after a certain period of time has passed no matter if much people tested it before that and just when they don't

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Luk Claes
Gustavo Franco wrote: On 6/12/07, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: Do you think that the numbers are positive in terms of testing usage, really? I see the numbers even if not that reliable as proof of my argument that just a few (almost half if compared with unstable)

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Luk Claes
Gustavo Franco wrote: On 6/12/07, Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: On 6/12/07, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: I don't get it at all why removing experimental would bring us anything but a more experimental unstable... Sure, a more

Re: Two proposals for a better Lenny (testing related).

2007-06-12 Thread Luk Claes
Gustavo Franco wrote: Hi Luk, On 6/12/07, Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gustavo Franco wrote: (...) * Switch unstable (release) for not automatic updates They are only automatic as far as the Release Team wants them to be as explained earlier... I'm not writing about automatic

Re: Automated mails to maintainers of packages with serious problems

2007-06-21 Thread Luk Claes
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi, Hi Lucas The main problem is with packages that have dummy RC bugs to prevent them from migrating to testing (see #395332 for example). Such packages are difficult to detect, and, for packages that have been in that case for a long time, one might question if the

Re: Intend to orphan pscan.

2007-06-30 Thread Luk Claes
Charles Plessy wrote: Dear debian-devel, I am maintaining a package that shares binary names with three others, cons, hsffig and pscan. I contacted their developpers in private, via debian-devel, and then through the BTS. I got an answer from the maintainer of cons, but the maintainers of

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-08 Thread Luk Claes
Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: Hello, Hi The maintainers of the xmms package in Debian are proposing the removal of the aforementioned package. Please read on. The rationale given does not seem to clarify why the proposal is for removal instead of the maintainers just orphaning the package?

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-08 Thread Luk Claes
Neil Williams wrote: On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 11:48:39 +0100 Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kapil Hari Paranjape [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Such a minimal port is hardly worth doing. It is possible to migrate from glib1 to glib2 in such a way (see #359299) but it is much harder to go

Re: NMU's for non RC bugs

2007-07-17 Thread Luk Claes
Neil Williams wrote: In the process of fixing one RC bug (#359299) in order to fix another (#289668) I am testing a possible fix for two other related bugs in the first package (g-wrap) : 428800 and 383049 (just merged). The related bug is currently only normal severity: g-wrap binary

Re: open bugs against removed packages still in stable

2007-07-24 Thread Luk Claes
Neil Williams wrote: When a package is removed (gchangepass, printtool), the removal message asks for the open bugs to be closed or re-assigned. These two packages still exist in stable and/or oldstable. It isn't appropriate to reassign any of these bugs, the question is should the bugs still

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-08-12 Thread Luk Claes
On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 10:13:45AM +, William Pitcock wrote: Josselin Mouette joss at debian.org writes: Le dimanche 12 août 2007 à 09:34 +, William Pitcock a écrit : I wonder what kind of crack you are on. Your website shows the 1.3.0 release date as being 2 march 2007. This

Re: dists/etch/Release.gpg missing from DVD images

2008-10-04 Thread Luk Claes
Hi Is it still the case that one needs to manually add an (gpg checking) exception for DVD images for upgrades from etch to lenny? If so, can someone please provide a text (license: GPL v2) for inclusion in the release notes? Thanks already. Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dists/etch/Release.gpg missing from DVD images

2008-10-04 Thread Luk Claes
Jens Seidel wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 05:53:22PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Is it still the case that one needs to manually add an (gpg checking) exception for DVD images for upgrades from etch to lenny? If so, can someone please provide a text (license: GPL v2) for inclusion in the release

Re: What you can do for Lenny

2008-10-06 Thread Luk Claes
Russell Coker wrote: On Tuesday 07 October 2008 03:44, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and if you could refrain from upload new upstream versions of packages to Sid, you would make all our lives easier. Some reasons: * New packages won't reach Lenny anyway. * Upload

Re: What you can do for Lenny

2008-10-06 Thread Luk Claes
Russell Coker wrote: On Tuesday 07 October 2008 07:25, Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any plan to fix things to allow separate uploads to testing and unstable for Lenny+1? It's already existing, but we like packages to be tested *before* they enter testing... Much more

Re: List of RC-buggy source packages by maintainer/uploader

2008-10-06 Thread Luk Claes
Felipe Sateler wrote: Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Guenter Geiger (Debian/GNU) [EMAIL PROTECTED] gem This was fixed by an NMU, but can't transition to testing due to dependency on libquicktime 2:1.0.3+debian-2. What to do in cases like this? Contact the release team to see if it's possible

Re: List of RC-buggy source packages by maintainer/uploader

2008-10-07 Thread Luk Claes
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Debian GNOME Maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] libgda3 (U) libgda3 has been fixed in unstable with high urgency. Needs unblocking. unblocked Debian Python Modules Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] matplotlib Seems to be fixed in t-p-u, but hasn't migrated to

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged 'lenny-ignore'?

2008-10-20 Thread Luk Claes
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Mon, Oct 20 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 09:38:00PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: ... and if it is *not* different, why should be the release managers be considered responsible for it? They just decide (and kudos for all their hard work,

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