On Jan 01, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> > My maintscripts are a total of four commands and they have used for at
> > least 9 months in packages with priority important (nano) and required
> > (debianutils), with no problems reported.
> > If you believe that they are
On Dec 31, Marc Haber wrote:
> Please consider keeping support for separate /usr as it is done today.
> Mounting /usr in initrd is an acceptable workaround.
The whole point of the merged /usr scheme is to support a separate /usr
file system, except that this way it
On Dec 31, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> Yes I have some question. You do not answered point given in #767754
> about dpkg-divert. Moreover guillem and me consider that symlinking
> lib is evil.
Because I still do not really understand your objections nor which
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We have a reasonably tested usrmerge package which can be used to
convert on the fly a system to merged /usr, and the good news is that
there are only three packages which need to be fixed to work on a merged
/usr system.
Thanks to my conversion program in usrmerge there is no need for a flag
On Dec 28, Santiago Vila wrote:
> Hmm... Are you suggesting that "hello-traditional" should be converted to dh?
>
> I have mixed feelings about putting in the same bag things which are
> clearly bugs with things which are not necessarily bugs.
Indeed. So far I have not seen
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On Dec 20, lucas castro wrote:
> I'll take a look at ms-sys-free.
Can you clarify which features it provides over the existing mbr
package?
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On Dec 20, Sam Morris wrote:
> That reminds me... I wonder if anyone has looked into the legal status of
> boot_array from ntfs-3g?
>
> https://sources.debian.net/src/ntfs-3g/1:2015.3.14AR.1-1/ntfsprogs/boot.c/
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On Dec 08, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> Can anybody comment on the recommended way to allow mail forwarded from
> debian.org mail servers?
You whitelist them from your SPF checks, because SPF is the kind of
FUSSP which requires the whole Internet to modify their servers to
support
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On Dec 07, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> Have there also backported recent glibc or systemd to these systems and
> do they support such a configuration? This is what we are talking about
> here.
The *hosts* still use Centos 6, but so far more recent guests releases,
even using
On Dec 03, James Cloos wrote:
> Most openvz run on kernels based on 2.6.32, often with significant
> updates. These platforms are an important segment, given how affordable
> they are. And Debian "stable" is often too archaic for many needs which
> fit nicely on a small
On Nov 08, Michael Biebl wrote:
> What I'm not quite sure yet is, if I should add a NEWS entry for that. I
> guess for most users it would just be useless noise during the upgrade
> process. But I'm willing to add it if others think it's useful to have.
Please don't. Having
On Nov 06, Dima Kogan wrote:
> Hi. Can we talk about this again? Should I Cc -devel, or is the
I hope not.
> reassignment to 'general' enough?
It would be totally wrong.
> The argument for guile in default 'make' is as before. And also the
So I suppose that the arguments
On Sep 28, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> We propose to drop support for i386 processors older than 686-class in
> the current release cycle.
Yes please.
> Indeed, the likely reasons for users to choose i386 over amd64 today
> are to reduce memory consumption or to run i386
On Sep 18, "Iain R. Learmonth" wrote:
> I would have no idea where to start for quantum safe crypto, and while this
> is an issue for upstreams mainly, getting an idea of where Debian is in this
> landscape currently and identifying the most important areas that need work
>
On Sep 17, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> This change landed in stretch on September 14. and is de facto the
> "outright giving up" of LSB support for Debian, from stretch onwards. As
Is there any point in (formally?) maintaining LSB compatibility?
Is there any proprietary
On Sep 01, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
> I don't think 28 kB vs 73 kB is a difference that people will notice
> over the network in *most* situations. Even at just 100 kB/s that's
> 0.28 vs 0.73 seconds, and only when the page is first loaded.
Yes, this is a non trivial difference
On Sep 01, Guido Günther wrote:
> Couldn't we just use the non-minified versions in most situations? A
Not for anything which has actual users over the network.
> heavily loaded wordpress site might not be good example but e.g. doxygen
> documentation probably doesn't suffer
On Aug 31, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:
> Ideally the update generators, targets and units should be split into
> a separate package and not installed by default. Since those are
> really unexpected on Debian.
No, because the system update infrastructure stays idle until some
On Aug 29, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote:
My rationale for this is as follows. First, Debian official installation
image are conceptually part of what we call Debian, i.e., main. I see
no other possible logical interpretation of where those images reside
w.r.t. the archive
On Aug 28, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote:
Our users are finding problems with current common hardware - much of
it depends on loadable firmware. Much (most?) of that firmware is
non-free; we distribute what we can here in the non-free component of
the Debian archive.
This now means
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On Aug 26, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Maybe there's some pragmatic approach that I haven't thought of yet that
will make this less painful. That's what I'm hoping for.
Me too: I really care that Debian will continue to be relevant.
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On Aug 25, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
- for i386, there is still sold new hardware with 32bit-only. Are
there open issues for i386 (apart from the 32bit-generic ones)?
Discussion that we need to get rid of it one day should be started.
Can we fully support cross-grading to
On Aug 25, Ole Streicher oleb...@debian.org wrote:
What is the best way to keep these data up to date in Debian? An
automated process as written in the pull request [1] is probably not the
right way, since it is a potential privacy violation. One could let the
I am frankly tired of people
On Aug 20, Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org wrote:
I have not thought of recreating the history of the upstream versions
correctly. I mostly care about the “what was in Debian” aspect of
history, but it should not hurt to have the upstream branches as well.
I am not sure then that I see how
On Aug 18, Joachim Breitner nome...@debian.org wrote:
this is a follow-up to my question after the dgit talk today: It would
be great to have a git view of the a package’s history in Debian. There
I have spent quite a lot of time in 2014 to figure out how to
automatically import in git
On Aug 16, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
This is sadly very typical of any sort of vendor support. I see this all
the time for complex software stacks with support contracts (you can only
ask them for support if you run it all on some OS that they support) or
for anything that requires
On Aug 02, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.pro wrote:
Does anybody prefer to see packages create certificates during postinst
or is there any preference not to try that and let people do so manually?
There is no point in trying to get a certificate from letsencrypt every
time you install a package
...@lists.alioth.debian.org
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On Jul 19, Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de wrote:
Thanks, I think that's an acceptable interim solution until we can
obtain permission to ship the actual logos under terms we like.
I think it's a crappy solution that makes Debian worse and solves no
problem except DFSG-fetishism.
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On Jul 16, Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org wrote:
I, myself, find our DFSG-freeness pickiness going too far, and I'm sick
of this icon thing. So, here's what I'm going to do: unless I hear
non-IANAL objection until the next upstream release due on august 11
(and I'm BCCing the DPL in case he
On Jul 09, Martín Ferrari tin...@tincho.org wrote:
I can say that it does: start-stop-daemon misses some functionality you
need for programs that don't daemonise and log to stdout/stderr, which
is something I needed only last week. Having said that, I think that
This looks like a job for
On Jun 26, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
Actually it requires us to keep maintaining the
Revert-udev-network-device-renaming patch as long as there will be
systems with a 70-persistent-net.rules file renaming eth* to eth*.
The other solution would be to upstream that patch (maybe
On Jun 25, Martin Pitt mp...@debian.org wrote:
Unlike /dev nodes, network interfaces can't have aliases as far as I
know. Am I missing anything?
No. As is usual with udev, the people who do not understand how it works
are always ready to propose solutions.
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On Jun 25, Marvin Renich m...@renich.org wrote:
If the priority of the goals is realigned to make sense, then we must
eliminate any solution that satisfies the no-state-file goal if it does
not also satisfy the human-usable goal. If this brings us back to where
we currently are, so be it.
On Jun 15, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
I'm not at a stage where I want to involve the CTTE right now. I still
would prefer to gather opinions and see where it goes.
My opinion is that you have not proved either that lz is widely used or
that it is better than xz.
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On Jun 09, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote:
open question: is there a perceived need to dig into the source code
of firefox and, just as was done with google-chrome to create
chromium-browser, permanently patch out certain features?
No: I am a grown up and I can choose by
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On Jun 05, Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net wrote:
Now, USB Ethernet interface (usb) and bridge (br0) have the same MAC.
This is not relevant, because virtual interfaces like br0 are not
subject to renaming.
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On Jun 03, Vincent Danjean vdanjean...@free.fr wrote:
stretch+1 (or maybe +2):
- Check existance/non-emptiness of
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules in udev.preinst,
Show critical debconf note, and refuse to upgrade
No. It is always a real pain when a preinst script
On May 30, Dmitry Smirnov only...@debian.org wrote:
I'm not yet sure what can replace ifupdown in bonded NIC configurations
with
ifenslave...
I am not sure about the obsolete bonding driver, but NM supports the new
teaming driver. [1]
systemd-networkd support is planned but not being
On May 27, Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net wrote:
And I guess it's rather uncommon on Debian to use NM e.g. on server
systems (probably also because most people wonder why they need a
bloated daemon/etc. running just for a network that is brought up/down
once every nnn days)
On May 27, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:
a featureful systemd-networkd.
Will that make NetworkManager obsolete or will there be cases where it
will still be needed?
I am not sure that there is a clear plan about this: when this question
was asked at FOSDEM the answer was a bit vague. :-)
On May 26, Andrew Shadura andre...@debian.org wrote:
In current state ifupdown is probably good enough for what it is used
for, except a few bugs. For advanced uses, it seems, Python-based
ifupdown2 may become a good alternative in the future, and some simpler
things wicd, NM and
On May 25, Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org wrote:
I use the attached script to easily create and sign my tags.
Isn't this the equivalent of gbp-buildpackage --git-tag-only?
Not everybody uses gbp.
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On May 24, Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro wrote:
Git supports signing of commits since version 1.7.9. Everybody should sign
git
commits always.
I do not see a significant benefit in signing all commits as long as
release tags are signed.
I use the attached script to easily create and sign my
On May 18, Mathieu Malaterre ma...@debian.org wrote:
Could a udev guru please comment on the (somewhat) famous issue
`Transport endpoint is not connected` happening when a udev rule tries
to mount fuse filesystem ? The only description I found of this issue
I think that the fuse process is
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On May 13, D. Jared Dominguez jared_doming...@dell.com wrote:
- it does not seem to me to provide any benefit over the firmware-based
names since in practice both would use by default an interface index
in the common case
Firmware based in what sense? From the biosdevname readme,
On May 11, Marvin Renich m...@renich.org wrote:
I see a large enough consensus about switching by default to ifnames,
and I believe that the few people who want MAC-based names for USB
interfaces can easily set NamePolicy=mac or write a custom rule.
Huh? This thread seems to have lots
On May 11, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
For ARM (and any other architecture using Device Tree) the on-board
indices should be specified as aliases 'ethernet0', 'ethernet1', etc.
Is this something that I can experiment on by patching just the device
tree definition or does it
On May 08, Martin Pitt mp...@debian.org wrote:
I propose to retire [mac], i. e. drop
/lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules and enable
[ifnames] by default.
I see a large enough consensus about switching by default to ifnames,
and I believe that the few people who want MAC-based
On May 08, Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote:
That would mean changing local code to _both_ handle en* and eth*,
which is (a) a surprise and (b) unsatisfying in _my_ personal opinion.
I'd rather have it fully and consistently or not at all.
Not at all is going to be harder and
On May 09, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote:
significant (and it will spread to other places, e.g., backups). No
matter how journald will be integrated more tightly in Debian, can we
haz a saner default?
I agree: free disk space may not be free even when nothing else uses
it, e.g.
On May 05, Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org wrote:
I would like to re-evaluate what we change by default for Stretch, that
Me too.
Let's look at the problem from a different point of view. This is what
I remove when building cloud images for my employer's infrastructure:
dpkg --purge \
On May 06, Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org wrote:
That said, as mentioned in my response, I think rsyslog ought to stay
important
until something else replaces it. Logging of *some* kind is important.
We have journald. :-)
Why, when it's just an apt install at away? It's one more
On May 06, Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org wrote:
But is this enough reason to keep w3m at priority standard? Personally I
would rather use ssh -D or such than bothering with a rather limited
text-mode browser.
Agreed.
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On May 06, Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org wrote:
Note that I believe this has changed over time: with the advent of VMs
and containers the expectations what a system should minimally provide
have become smaller.
The differences between VMs and normal servers are very small, limited
only
On May 06, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org wrote:
So, no, there isn't something broken - the uploader needs to file the
bug as set out in the developer reference.
And please have this fixed in stable as well.
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On May 04, mudongliang mudonglianga...@hotmail.com wrote:
I fear that such a short release cycle would strongly disincentive many
commercial vendors from supporting Debian systems: it already happened
to Fedora.
Can you give the detailed problem that happened to Fedora?
Too many
On May 04, Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote:
Too many releases, no more Plesk.
Is not having P(l)est really a bad thing?
If you sell servers or hosting and want to have customers, then yes.
(Also, customers would not care less if the servers came with Centos
installed so only
On May 02, Dimitri John Ledkov x...@debian.org wrote:
Could we:
Freeze in 6-8 months
Release in 10-12 months
I fear that such a short release cycle would strongly disincentive many
commercial vendors from supporting Debian systems: it already happened
to Fedora.
There is also the problem
On May 02, Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.au wrote:
If I upgrade a Jessie openvz container on my proxmox box, systemd fails to
start up. This is no surprise, the kernel seems to be rather old:
Indeed. Did you check if a newer PVE kernel maybe has a backport of the
features needed to use
On Apr 15, Elena ``of Valhalla'' valha...@trueelena.org wrote:
Si avvicina la data della DUCC-IT 2015 e con essa un po' di deadline.
Potete iniziare a pubblicare una bozza di programma, in particolare con
gli orari di inizio/fine di tutte le giornate?
Il wiki dice ancora forse anche Domenica
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On Feb 18, Simon Richter s...@debian.org wrote:
With my embedded hat on, it would be nice if there was an easy way to
drop this extra dependency, as it means a lot of essentially dead code
loaded on systems that don't use systemd.
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/users/md/libsystemd-dummy.git/
On Feb 16, Alastair McKinstry alastair.mckins...@sceal.ie wrote:
The breakage of compatibility of existing systems (e.g. with /usr on a
separate partition) has left a sour taste. I spent a weekend repairing
systemd introduces no such breakage. Also, /usr on a separate partition
was partially
On Feb 16, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote:
to debian-users: you don't have complete choice (yet), but i have
demonstrated with a few hours work that there is a way to run
(certain) desktop environments without requiring libsystemd0 or any of
its dependencies, and after a
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On Jan 09, Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net wrote:
Shouldn't the length be limited by the Debian policy?
Shouldn't the length be limited by common sense?
In this case I think that listing the packages without the description
of each one would be enough...
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Version: 5.2.4~bpo70+1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it
Changed-By: Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it
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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 20:12:24 +0100
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Version: 5.2.3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it
Changed-By: Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it
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On Dec 13, Alexandre Detiste alexandre.deti...@gmail.com wrote:
Would it be OK / ugly / forbiden to do a
rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/info/cron.postrm
in systemd-cron preinst script ?
Ugly, but sometimes there is no other option.
I am quite sure that I had to do this once or twice in my packages and
On Dec 04, Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
If you can run a CGI inside a chroot/container/whatever, you can run a
small web server on a local port / Unix socket, and reverse-proxy it,
just as easily.
While using many more times the resources. You obviously have no idea of
the
On Dec 04, Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net wrote:
While using many more times the resources. You obviously have no idea of
the challenges of providing secure web hosting for non-trivial
quantities of web sites.
So what do you want to imply would be secure?
The point is not
On Nov 28, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:
a) Upgrades should _not_ change init: whatever is installed should be
kept.
I disagree: upgrades should get the default init system unless the
system administrator chooses otherwise.
b) New installs should get systemd-sysv as default
On Nov 28, Simon Richter s...@debian.org wrote:
I disagree: This is not safe and can break systems.
Everything is not safe and can break systems, so this is not a very
compelling argument.
I have a system where the network connection is so important that the
pppd is invoked via the inittab,
On Nov 25, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez arturo.borrero.g...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a Debian-specific policy on how to apply these directives?
We are working on one, but the general idea is please enable as many
security features as feasible. :-)
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ciao,
Marco
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On Nov 20, Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote:
The first issue (fstab now fatally blocks boot) is something the systemd
maintainers have considered (as I understand it) and rejected.
The behaviour of systemd will not be changed, but I have plans to add
a fstab sanity check to preinst.
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On Nov 19, Salvo Tomaselli tipos...@tiscali.it wrote:
Should the upstream tarball be repackaged to remove them, or not?
They do not need to be removed at least if they can be rebuilt from the
source in the package (but they do not have to).
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ciao,
Marco
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On Nov 17, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
This is what many still (retorically) wonder about: we the systemd
maintainers did not reject that change,
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=15;bug=746578
Please try to be less selective in your quoting: the issue was
On Nov 16, Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu wrote:
I was really confused that this needed to go to the TC; from what I
could tell, it had no downside systems using systemd, and it made
things better on non-systemd systems. What was the downside of making
the change, and why did it have to go to
On Nov 14, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote:
This is just a proof that storing the patches as real commits is useful.
And that's the point of the patch-queue tag. Instead of having the patches
only as real commits in the local repository, they get pushed to the
public repository too
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