Accepted fio 3.12-1 (source) into unstable

2018-11-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 16:47:49 +0100 Source: fio Binary: fio gfio Architecture: source Version: 3.12-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Martin Steigerwald Changed-By: Martin Steigerwald Description: fio

Accepted fsmark 3.3-3 (source amd64) into unstable

2019-02-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 13:28:59 +0100 Source: fsmark Binary: fsmark fsmark-dbgsym Architecture: source amd64 Version: 3.3-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Martin Steigerwald Changed-By: Martin Steigerwald

Re: Debian, so ugly and unwieldy!

2019-06-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Bjørn Mork - 07.06.19, 19:22: > Adam Borowski writes: > > => Install gtk3-nocsd by default in all desktop tasks but Gnome. > > It's not> > > perfect but it helps. > > That's nice. Thanks for the tip. I enjoy nice tools like eog and > evince, but have always been annoyed by the

Re: Debian, so ugly and unwieldy!

2019-06-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Adam Borowski - 07.06.19, 21:09: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:24:03AM -0700, James Lu wrote: […] > > > * default font is ugly and poorly hinted -- the latter is > > > especially jarring> > > > > on a low-resolution screen I'm at right now, the former still > > > applies to one's proper

Re: Debian, so ugly and unwieldy!

2019-06-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Adam Borowski - 07.06.19, 17:24: > This is about GUI appearance and ergonomy. > > I'll concentrate at XFCE, as I consider GNOME3's UI a lost cause, thus > I'd find it hard to bring constructive arguments there. Similar to you I do not "get" GNOME 3. I have no idea why I would like to use it.

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Adrian Bunk - 08.05.19, 21:45: > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:38:26PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > >... > > > > So let's pick compressors to enable. For compression ratio, xz > > still wins (at least among popular compressors). But there's a > > thing to say about zstd: firefox.deb zstd -19 takes

Re: systemd services that are not equivalent to LSB init scripts

2019-07-14 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hello. Theodore Ts'o - 14.07.19, 22:07: > So requiring support of non-systemd ecosystems is in general, going to > require extra testing. In the case of cron/systemd.timers, this > means testing and/or careful code inspection to make sure the > following cases work: > > * systemd &&

Re: Bits from the DPL (August 2019)

2019-09-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Sam! I took long time to write this even on still recovering from a pace in my life that feels too quick for me. But I intended this to be carefully worded in order to not hurt anyone. I hope I succeeded. My invitation: Before taking anything personal and making the choice to feel hurt

Re: Please stop hating on sysvinit, systemd… and let go of the hating anyway (was Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?)

2019-08-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Russ Allbery - 08.08.19, 20:33:58 CEST: > Ondřej Surý writes: > > So, just to clarify… so, it’s ok to hate systemd, but it’s not ok > > to > > hate sysvinit (spaghetti of shell scripts)? > > Personally, I'd be happy if people would just stop hating on any free > software in general. Even buggy

Re: Please stop hating on sysvinit

2019-08-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Vincent Bernat - 09.08.19, 07:00:41 CEST: > ❦ 8 août 2019 21:47 +02, Simon Richter : > >> inetd performance is very low because it needs to spawn one > >> instance for each connection. systemd socket activation has > >> absolutely 0 overhead except on the first connection (where > >> systemd

Re: Please stop hating on sysvinit

2019-08-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Ian Jackson - 09.08.19, 11:27:31 CEST: > Ondřej Surý writes ("Re: Please stop hating on sysvinit"): > > On 9 Aug 2019, at 09:22, Martin Steigerwald > > wrote: > > > Actually as a user of my services I do not even notice any > > > difference,

Re: Please stop hating on sysvinit (was Re: do packages depend on lexical order or {daily,weekly,monthly} cron jobs?)

2019-08-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Philipp Kern - 08.08.19, 14:48:48 CEST: > On 2019-08-08 14:43, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 02:35:13PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > >> And there’s the problem. If we keep with sysvinit as a baseline of > >> features provided by the init, we end up with just every init > >>

Re: Bits from the DPL (August 2019)

2019-09-24 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Dear Mo. Mo Zhou - 24.09.19, 04:58:06 CEST: > For desktop users, non-systemd init plus a mordern desktop environment > such as Plasma or Gnome would be impossible on Debian, as they depend > on systemd. Some other distro such as Gentoo and FreeBSD have somehow > removed the systemd dependency for

Re: Integration with systemd

2019-10-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Marco d'Itri - 31.10.19, 15:45:47 CET: > On Oct 31, Simon Richter wrote: […] > > The freedom to configure a system without things I do not want is > > one of the main reasons that made me switch over from Windows to > > Debian, a bit more than twenty years ago. > >

Re: Integration with systemd

2019-10-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Theodore Y. Ts'o - 31.10.19, 16:03:29 CET: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 01:19:56PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > alienate me away from Debian. This laptop, for the sake of packaging > > flexible I/O tester, is the last of my machines still running on > > Debian. All t

Re: "the" cloud [Integration with systemd]

2019-11-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Thomas, Thomas Goirand - 01.11.19, 01:26:58 CET: > On 10/31/19 5:13 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > It is similar with "the" cloud. > > Why is there quotes around "the", and why do you think there's only a > single instance of a cloud o

Re: Integration with systemd

2019-11-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Adam D. Barratt - 01.11.19, 07:47:48 CET: > On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 00:54 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-10-31 at 22:40 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > On Oct 31, Svante Signell wrote: > > > > When elogind enters testing there would be many more people > > > > running > > > > Debian

Re: Integration with systemd

2019-11-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 01.11.19, 09:25:07 CET: > Adam D. Barratt - 01.11.19, 07:47:48 CET: > > On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 00:54 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > > > On Thu, 2019-10-31 at 22:40 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > > On Oct 31, Svante Signell wrote: > &g

Re: difficulty in understanding options in init-system-GR

2019-12-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Marco d'Itri - 07.12.19, 11:45:36 CET: > On Dec 07, Mo Zhou wrote: > > The rest options, i.e. B A D H G, look nearly the same to me: > > "first tier support for systemd, second tier for others" > > > > The only difference I noted is the bug severity for non-systemd > > support. > > > > In

Re: Integration with systemd

2019-10-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! I thought about just silently unsubscribing from debian-devel… but as I got the impression that almost no one argues for the freedom to choose the init system here in this thread, I decided to speak up: Theodore Y. Ts'o - 31.10.19, 00:57:48 CET: > And if we do this in core Debian

Re: Integration with systemd

2019-10-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 31.10.19, 13:19:56 CET: > While I do not expect maintainers of Debian packages to implement > support for alternate init systems themselves, I still believe if > someone works constructively and consistently on making such support > available in Debian, it w

Re: Heads up: persistent journal has been enabled in systemd

2020-02-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Andrey Rahmatullin - 05.02.20, 22:17:14 CET: > On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 07:44:43AM +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > > > We just had a GR where the project voted it was just fine to > > > systemd all the things, so this sort of thing is to be expected. > > > > Are you suggesting that voters fully

Re: Heads up: persistent journal has been enabled in systemd

2020-02-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Scott Kitterman - 06.02.20, 06:27:44 CET: > >Are you suggesting that voters fully understood the implications? > >Is this OK now to replace everything with systemd counterparts? > > > >I certainly voted with considerations for _init_ system. > > > >If I recall correctly, no GR option suggested to

Re: Heads up: persistent journal has been enabled in systemd

2020-02-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 06.02.20, 12:26:32 CET: > Vincent Bernat - 06.02.20, 07:58:32 CET: > > ❦ 6 février 2020 09:50 +11, Dmitry Smirnov : > > >> and 2) continuing to use rsyslog isn't an option if the default > > >> changes.> > > > > > > N

Re: Heads up: persistent journal has been enabled in systemd

2020-02-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Vincent Bernat - 06.02.20, 07:58:32 CET: > ❦ 6 février 2020 09:50 +11, Dmitry Smirnov : > >> and 2) continuing to use rsyslog isn't an option if the default > >> changes.> > > No. I just don't want default to change. IMHO rationale for this is > > weak but everybody keeps arguing that it would

Re: Heads up: persistent journal has been enabled in systemd

2020-02-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Ansgar - 06.02.20, 13:25:06 CET: > On Thu, 2020-02-06 at 12:30 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Especially as I found that I did not use journalctl in my daily > > practice anyway. > > Given you wrote earlier that you moved all but one of your machines > away from

Re: Heads up: persistent journal has been enabled in systemd

2020-02-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 06.02.20, 14:32:57 CET: > Ansgar - 06.02.20, 13:25:06 CET: > > On Thu, 2020-02-06 at 12:30 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > Especially as I found that I did not use journalctl in my daily > > > practice anyway. > > > > Given you w

Re: Heads up: persistent journal has been enabled in systemd

2020-02-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Sam Hartman - 06.02.20, 17:11:20 CET: > >>>>> "Martin" == Martin Steigerwald writes: > Martin> Well, that is *exactly* why I thought the GR is not going > to Martin> be helpful. > > Martin> Cause in *no way* it appeared t

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Dear Ondřej, Ondřej Surý - 01.01.20, 09:39:35 CET: > Andrew, > > look at the subject, then look at what you wrote. If you can’t find > enough kindness in the situation and you are angry then it might be > better to not write anything at all. If one outcome of the GR is to ask people to shut up…

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Dear Andrej, dear Andrew, Andrej Shadura - 01.01.20, 13:02:00 CET: > On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 12:40, Andrew McGlashan > > wrote: > > reasonable stakeholders, it is very limited to a small group of > > Debian users known collectively as DDs .. the current "gods" of > > Debian whom have ultimate

Re: HFS/HFS+ are insecure

2023-07-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Marco, hi, Marco d'Itri - 21.07.23, 10:55:39 CEST: > On Jul 21, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > You are totally correct. > > > Kernel team, please blacklist HFS/HFS+ for automounting. > > > > Isn't this a userland policy decision? udisks will happily trigger a > > module load for hfsplus if

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