Re: what to do is maintainer is lacking?

2012-04-19 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 18.04.2012 16:26, schrieb Scott Kitterman: On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 04:57:14 PM Thomas Goirand wrote: On 04/18/2012 08:27 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: If a maintainer isn't (capable of) doing the necessary work on a package themselves, then after a while the best thing they can do is admit

Re: Comments on Mate DE

2012-11-20 Thread Michael Schmitt
Sorry to be a bit late there :) Am 21.09.2012 16:41, schrieb Jon Dowland: That's not really of any interest to -devel, and I guess you're quoting info from private mail here. Please let's keep this list useful. I disagree. It was very useful to get a glimpse on why he had / has so many issues

Re: debian mate

2012-11-20 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 05.11.2012 00:41, schrieb Andrew Kolotenko: On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 02:57 +0400, Виталий Короневич wrote: debian gnome-edition - ok debian kde-edition - ok debian lxde-edition - ok debian xfce-edition - ok when will debian mate-edition? what for? the ones above are enough imho For you maybe,

Re: debian mate

2012-11-20 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 05.11.2012 00:41, schrieb Wouter Verhelst: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 02:57:35AM +0400, Виталий Короневич wrote: debian gnome-edition - ok debian kde-edition - ok debian lxde-edition - ok debian xfce-edition - ok when will debian mate-edition? When someone (you?) does the work to package (the

Re: debian mate

2012-11-20 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 05.11.2012 00:51, schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 02:57:35AM +0400, Виталий Короневич wrote: debian gnome-edition - ok debian kde-edition - ok debian lxde-edition - ok debian xfce-edition - ok Those aren't really editions comparable to Ubuntu's editions or

Re: debian mate

2012-11-20 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 20.11.2012 20:12, schrieb Josselin Mouette: Le mardi 20 novembre 2012 à 18:37 +0100, Michael Schmitt a écrit : One of the biggest problems with MATE so far is that it currently depends on libraries and other things that have been deprecated and removed in Debian and should

Re: debian mate

2012-11-20 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 20.11.2012 23:07, schrieb Jon Dowland: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 06:37:48PM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote: And whatever they or anybody else does in that regard, it will come to late for wheezy. All of MATE will come too late for Wheezy. It's already too late for Wheezy. That may be common

Re: debian mate

2012-11-20 Thread Michael Schmitt
Hi Russ, as I see you, as a member of ctte, are kind of in favour of MATE for jessie and not wheezy... :( Am 20.11.2012 23:27, schrieb Russ Allbery: Michael Schmitttcwardr...@gmail.com writes: That may be common thinking, agreed. But I am that extremely worried about the current upgrade

Re: debian mate

2012-11-20 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 20.11.2012 23:14, schrieb Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez: On 20/11/12 22:55, Michael Schmitt wrote: If one likes Gnome2.x or MATE or not is a question of taste, to acknowledge that many users are just mad about Gnome3 is a fact. To offer no real sane upgrade-path for those users is... dunno how

Re: debian mate

2012-11-21 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 21.11.2012 03:23, schrieb Russ Allbery: Michael Schmitttcwardr...@gmail.com writes: as I see you, as a member of ctte, are kind of in favour of MATE for jessie and not wheezy... :( I have no opinion on MATE. I personally switched from GNOME 2 to Xfce on the one system where I use an

Re: debian mate

2012-11-21 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 21.11.2012 05:06, schrieb Matt Zagrabelny: Hi Michael, On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Michael Schmitttcwardr...@gmail.com wrote: Am 20.11.2012 23:14, schrieb Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez: On 20/11/12 22:55, Michael Schmitt wrote: If one likes Gnome2.x or MATE or not is a question

Re: debian mate

2012-11-21 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 21.11.2012 09:48, schrieb Jon Dowland: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 04:03:33AM +0100, Michael Schmitt wrote: So much for the general rules... but exceptions ARE possible! And I just try to make a case here about how important it might be! IF you had a set of MATE packages all ready to go and you

Re: debian mate

2012-11-21 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 21.11.2012 10:30, schrieb Neil Williams: On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 04:03:33 +0100 Michael Schmitttcwardr...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK is completely impossible that Debian ships MATE for Wheezy. Wheezy has been frozen time ago and by policy no new packages are allowed in the archive for testing

Re: debian mate

2012-11-21 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 21.11.2012 11:19, schrieb Marc Haber: On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 04:03:33 +0100, Michael Schmitt tcwardr...@gmail.com wrote: Am 20.11.2012 23:14, schrieb Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez: AFAIK is completely impossible that Debian ships MATE for Wheezy. Wheezy has been frozen time ago and by policy

Re: debian mate

2012-11-21 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 21.11.2012 14:15, schrieb Josselin Mouette: Le mercredi 21 novembre 2012 à 04:03 +0100, Michael Schmitt a écrit : Gnome3-classic (fallback) is the option more like to what was gnome2. I have been using it for a while and is a good option if you want a desktop like gnome2. It may be for you

Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 22.11.2012 08:37, schrieb Josselin Mouette: Le jeudi 22 novembre 2012 à 07:21 +0100, Michael Schmitt a écrit : Now I see how that works for the gnome folks! *lol* Really, if the general gnome attitude is all complaints are dumb and should be ignored, what we do is the holly grail

Re: debian mate

2012-11-23 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 22.11.2012 16:57, schrieb Ian Jackson: Michael Schmitt writes (Re: debian mate): Am 21.11.2012 10:30, schrieb Neil Williams: As part of the Debian release team it is Adam's call to make. He's declared his decision which is fully in line with the freeze policy and that's