Re: Building windows versions of debian packages

2005-11-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2005-11-19 at 23:02 +0100, Enrico Tassi wrote:

 mh... I do not completely agree... I think a separate repo should be
 the way to start... but at the end I would like to see these packages
 in debian... the best developing environment (not only the best OS).
 
 If you want to start this nice project...
 I can help a bit

Perhaps the people on the debian-win32 list (or its archives) can be
used as a starting point?

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Bug#343403: ITP: libwww-topica-perl -- Read emails from a Topica mailing list

2005-12-14 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: libwww-topica-perl
  Version : 0.5
  Upstream Author : Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/~simonw/WWW-Topica-0.5/
* License : Perl
  Description : Read emails from a Topica mailing list

This module screen scrapes the Topica website and fetches back RFC822 text 
representations
of all the mails posted to a given list. Where possible it fills in the from, 
to and date
fields. It should be noted that in some cases it's impossible to get both the 
sender name
and their email address.

I'll need a sponsor for this module.

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Re: Powerfulness (was: tioga : a powerful plotting system in ruby)

2006-01-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 23:52 +0100, Juergen Salk wrote:

 I am just wondering if we shouldn't be more chary of using 
 meaningless (or soliciting) phrases like powerful in 
 package descriptions in general.

Sounds like something that should be added to lintian. I suggest filing
a wishlist bug with a patch. I recently made a lintian patch to check
for best-practice homepages in the description field, which was easy,
just modify checks/description and checks/description.desc.

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Bug#347202: ITP: xmms-midi -- MIDI plugin for XMMS

2006-01-09 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: xmms-midi
  Version : 0.03
  Upstream Author : Chris Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : 
http://web.archive.org/web/20040401143932/http://ban.joh.cam.ac.uk/~cr212/xmms-midi/
* License : GPL
  Description : MIDI plugin for XMMS
This plugin enables XMMS to play MIDI files through Timidity.

Although upstream is long gone, I use this plugin quite a bit and will
maintain it properly until such time as I no longer use xmms. I'll need
a sponsor. Co-maintainers are welcome.

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Re: libecw

2006-01-13 Thread Paul Wise
Miriam Ruiz wrote:

  I'm not sure if it's license (
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=293346 ) can be considered
  free enough to be in main:

Some feedback from upstream is in this thread:

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-grass-general/2005-August/thread.html#1082
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-grass-general/2005-August/001082.html
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-grass-general/2005-August/001083.html
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-grass-general/2005-August/001085.html
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-grass-general/2005-August/001086.html

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Re: TrueType fonts packages maintenance team proposal

2006-02-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 07:40 +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:

 So, please follow up in -devel to show interest, criticism, laughs
 and the like.

As maintainer (non-DD) of the following two fonts, I think this is a
great idea.

 ttf-khmeros - KhmerOS Unicode fonts for the Khmer language of Cambodia
 ttf-mph-2b-damase - font with ranges from the latest version of unicode

There are a few other fonts I'd like to see in Debian (another Khmer
one, and a few Burmese Unicode ones).

It might be good to write a font policy (if one does not exist), with
suggested package names and standards for package descriptions,
dependencies and the like.

We should also ensure that all the fonts packages have correct debtags.
We could also search for binary packages that duplicate font files
instead of depending on them (even tho there are lintian warnings).

 Please feel free to point me at existing projects I wouldn't be aware
 of (debian-desktop?) which cover similar goals...

I also think that this project has a bit in common with debian-i18n,
perhaps they could be informed too?

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Re: Fonts packages maintenance team (second) proposal

2006-03-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 10:33 +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:

 So, I hereby propose building a Debian fonts team.

I'm interested in participating in this, and would add ttf-khmeros and
ttf-mph-2b-damase to the list of group maintained packages. I'm
interested in order to communicate with and learn from other font
package maintainers, learn from their experience and perhaps add minor
polish to some other packages before etch is released.

I also feel that fontforge needs some love to get new a upstream version
(which re-adds the compact/normal views that I miss), and adopt the
package as the maintainer seems inactive on it. Same with defoma I
think, which IIRC, has lots of Ubuntu patches we could evaluate
applying.

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Re: idea for project machines

2006-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 00:22 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

 Create a new custom chroot with the packages preinstalled on demand.

Sounds like a use-case for combining pbuilder and cowdancer (or lvm
snapshots). No time-consuming tarball extraction, disk usage is reduced
and the original chroot is untouched.

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Bug#341344: ITP: python-urwid -- curses-based UI/widget library for Python

2006-03-28 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #341344
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I intend to package urwid for debian. I'm making packages now.

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Bug#276148: ITP: nsis -- Nullsoft Scriptable Install System (modified for debian)

2005-03-08 Thread Paul Wise
retitle 276148 ITP: nsis -- Nullsoft Scriptable Install System (modified for 
debian)
retitle 276153 ITP: nsis -- Nullsoft Scriptable Install System (modified for 
debian)
owner 276148 !
owner 276153 !
thanks for the banana republic :(

More info and a long description about the version I intend to package:

* Package name : nsis
  Version : 2.05
  Upstream Author : Amir Szekely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://nsis.sourceforge.net/
* License : zlib/libpng License
  Description : Nullsoft Scriptable Install System (modified for debian)

An installer is the first experience of a user with your
application. Slow or unsuccessful software installations are the most
irritating computer problems. A quick and user friendly installer is
therefore an essential part of your software product.

NSIS is a tool that allows programmers to create such installers for
Windows. It is released under an open source license and is completely
free for any use.

NSIS creates installers that are capable of installing, uninstalling,
setting system settings, extracting files, etc. Because it's based on
script files, you can fully control every part of your installers. The
script language support variables, functions, string manipulation,
just like a normal programming language - but designed for the creation
of installers. Even with all these features, NSIS is still the smallest
installer system available. With the default options, it has an overhead
of only 34 KB.

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Bug#351429: ITP: flasm -- command line assembler disassembler of Flash ActionScript bytecode

2006-04-23 Thread Paul Wise
retitle 351429 ITP: flasm -- command line assembler  disassembler of Flash 
ActionScript bytecode
owner 351429 !
thanks

I intend to package flasm for debian. I'll need a sponsor once I have packaged 
it.

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Re: RFC: Better portability for package maintainers

2006-05-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 18:10 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:

  Minimally, package maintainers and developers could take a look on our
  logs and see if there's anything wrong. If there is, in many cases the
  fix is obvious.
 
 You probably need to provide a view by maintainer in order to get
 visibility to many developers.  Typing all of one's packages in one after
 another gets rather boring.

An appropriate place for such an interface could be on buildd.net, which
gathers build logs for several unofficial debian platforms (as well as
the official ones). It would be good if GNUSolaris buildd logs were
available from buildd.net and buildd.net had a page similar to Igloo's
status page.

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free flash stuff WAS: Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 18:58 -0500, Anthony Towns wrote:

 Java is one of the most important packages for which we don't have an
 effective non-free replacement at present. The only one that I can think
 of that would be more important would be flash.

There is a gnash package destined for experimental in NEW, which will
greatly increase debian's flash viewing capabilities (swfdec/gplflash1
don't have huge amounts of support). Other things in NEW are: ming,
flasm and haxe. mtasc (ActionScript - swf compiler) is already in, and
several more development tools are coming, see here:

http://osflash.org/debian_packaging

Anyone interested in free flash stuff should join the debian-flash list
(once it is created) and or send support to the list creation request:

http://bugs.debian.org/365479

There is also a pkg-flash project on alioth, waiting on the list to be
created (or rejected) before we move forward with putting stuff in svn.

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debian flash group launched

2006-06-01 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all,

debian-flash aims to support the free/open source flash community in a
manner similar to debian-java does for Classpath/GCJ/Kaffe/etc. The
debian flash email list, alioth project, svn repository and wiki pages
are now setup, lets get to work!

free flash community: mainly http://osflash.org 
previous wiki page: http://osflash.org/debian_packaging
discussion list: http://lists.debian.org/debian-flash/
alioth project: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-flash/
websvn for the svn repo: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-flash
wiki homepage: http://wiki.debian.org/Flash
bugs/commits list: 
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-flash-devel

For those of you already added to the alioth project, We will use a
subversion setup similar to pkg-perl (except, I think its better if we
only commit the debian/ dir), please read this:

http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/subversion.html

And please run this on your dsc:

svn-inject -o foo_1.0-1.dsc svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-flash/packages/

When you commit, diffs will be sent to the pts for your package (cvs
keyword), and to the pkg-flash-devel list:

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-flash-devel

If you wish for your flash related package to be group maintained, add
pkg-flash-devel to the Maintainer field, otherwise it would be nice if
you put in the uploaders, so we can easily track the state of all
flash-related packages using qa.debian.org/developer.php (for those who
don't, we can add them to a section on that page). Those who want to
work on all pkg-flash packages should subscribe to that list.

PS: Thanks to the alioth admins, cord/pasc for the discussion list and
thanks to buxy for the hints for the svn commits stuff.

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Re: Kernel bootsplash without recompiling

2006-06-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 13:41 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

 I don't like the fact that I need to recompile the kernel to get a
 bootsplash. I don't ask for a bootsplash by default, but I would like a
 way to enable it with a standard kernel.

splashy is a better alternative to the kernel-patch:

http://splashy.alioth.debian.org

It is only in experimental, but it works nicely.

Your other questions were answered by Jérôme Warnier.

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Re: Kernel bootsplash without recompiling

2006-06-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 19:55 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:

 Your other questions were answered by Jérôme Warnier.

I forgot the following pages related to boot splashscreens:

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/kernel-patch-bootsplash
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/graphics/splashy
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/graphics/splashy-themes
http://bugs.debian.org/297579
http://bugs.debian.org/356193
http://bugs.debian.org/368828
http://bugs.debian.org/368826
http://bugs.debian.org/188439
http://bugs.debian.org/188440

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Re: debian Packages

2006-06-14 Thread Paul Wise

On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 12:59 +0100, Indraveni wrote:

  I want to know when will the deb packages for egroupware-1.2.2 and
 Bugzilla 2.16 version debian packages will be released.

egroupware 1.2 is available, you will have to wait for 1.2.2, or contact
the maintainer to help her/him out with it:

http://packages.debian.org/experimental/web/egroupware

Bugzilla 2.16 was released with sarge a year or so ago:

http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/bugzilla

Bugzilla 2.22 is in sid:

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/bugzilla

Please use this in future: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

PS: Please don't send HTML mail, or attach yahoo spam to your message.

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Re: Bug#374373: ITP: googleearth-package -- utility for automatically building a Google Earth Debian package

2006-06-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 23:56 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 Wesley J. Landaker wrote:
  But the most important one of all is: I've found it useful, I've got it
  working[1], and I'd like to give others an opportunity to use it if they
  want to.
  
  [1] (almost working--I'm still tweaking it a bit, since I've only been
  working on it for a few hours)
 
 Does it use the loki installer as I read somewhere? I had been
 considering possibly adding loki support to alien as a package format
 (without generation support), which might be a nicer general solution.

It uses makeself as the wrapper format (shell script+tar.bz2):

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/makeself

Inside that is a setup.sh, which runs setup.gtk/gtk2, running strings -a
on those files gives some loki_* functions, looks like it is using the
loki system. The app itself seems to reside in 2 tarballs (data and
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Bug#374440: ITP: python-templayer -- layered template library for Python

2006-06-19 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: python-templayer
  Version : 1.2
  Upstream Author : Ian Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://excess.org/templayer/
* License : soon to be LGPL (being relicenced soon)
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : layered template library for Python

Templayer currently supports only HTML generation, but its simple design
is easily extended to support other file formats.

Templayer was created to offer an alternative to the more common ways of
generating dynamic HTML: embedding code within the HTML (PHP etc.), or
embedding HTML within code (traditional CGI). Neither of these methods
allow for a clean separation of the form, or layout, of a page and the
function of page generation. Instead of mixing HTML and Python, two rich
and extremely expressive languages, we can add a small amount of syntax
to each and keep the two separate and coherent. 

Packaging this so that the tutorial for python-urwid can be built and
installed. Upstream and the python-modules team will by my co-maintainer
on this. 

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Re: xserver-i810 killed by xrandr

2006-06-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 23:50 +0200, Daniel Michalik wrote:

 Is there any possibility to compile and install the packet exactely
 the same way like the original debian packet is but including debug
 symbols and run the xserver manually in a debugger?

mkdir foo ; cd foo
apt-get install fakeroot
apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-video-i810
apt-get source xserver-xorg-video-i810
cd xserver-xorg-video-i810*
DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot -us -uc
dpkg -i ../*.deb

 Is there a better way to find the relevant part? How should I begin my
 work?

Another option is to do a binary-search using the upstream CVS (or git
these days? git-bisect will be handy if so) and find out which change to
the upstream source caused the crashes to start appearing. This is a bit
of a brute-force approach though.

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Re: *-doc package should not gzip PDF file

2006-06-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 16:51 -0400, James R. Van Zandt wrote:

I have no idea how debhelper works. Are there anybody out there that
can help with getting it to stop gzipping files in -doc?
 
 dh_compress already has a list of file extensions where (re-)compressing
 doesn't make sense.  I've submitted Bug#375406 with a patch (below) to
 add .pdf to the list.

If I read the discussion correctly up to this point, some PDFs are
fairly compressible and some are not. Perhaps dh_compress could evaluate
this for each .pdf and only compress those files where the saving is
significant (say 40%)?

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Bug#378112: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit

2006-07-13 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: gzrt
  Version : 0.4
  Upstream Author : Aaron M. Renn
* URL : http://www.urbanophile.com/arenn/hacking/gzrt/
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : gzip recovery toolkit

gzrecover will attempt to skip over corrupted data in a gzip archive,
thereby allowing the remaining data to be recovered.

Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged
gzipped tarballs.

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Re: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit

2006-07-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 19:35 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:

 Please install cpio 2.5 or higher to facilitate recovery from damaged
 gzipped tarballs.

I will drop the version from the description and add cpio to the
suggests. 

I added the suggestion to the description because I guess that .tar.gz
will be the most common type of file being recovered and because
suggests/recommends do not tell humans exactly how/why cpio is useful to
install alongside gzrt.

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Bug#282313: ITP: python-google -- A Python Interface to the Google API

2005-07-13 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #282313
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: python-google
  Version : 0.6
  Upstream Author : Brian Landers, Mark Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://pygoogle.sourceforge.net/
* License : Python license
  Description : A Python Interface to the Google API

 This module allows you to access Google's web APIs through SOAP,
 to do things like search Google and get the results programmatically.
 This API is described here: http://www.google.com/apis/

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Re: Fedora Directory Server port to Debian ?

2005-08-07 Thread Paul Wise
Hi,

 Is somebody working on porting/packaging FDS to Debian?

Since no-one answered you yet, I presume not. However, it has been built
on debian, please read the RFP bug and a couple of mails on a redhat
list:

http://bugs.debian.org/315297
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-directory-devel/2005-June/msg6.html
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-directory-devel/2005-June/msg7.html

As far as I can tell, there is no-one packaging it yet, feel free to
contribute, I imagine that it would be good to have this in debian.

http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html#packaging

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Re: Fedora Directory Server port to Debian ?

2005-08-07 Thread Paul Wise
Hi,

   Is somebody working on porting/packaging FDS to Debian?
 
  http://bugs.debian.org/315297
 
 Bad package description.  It tells me something I don't care about (namely
 the acronym expansion of LDAP) and none of the things I do care about (why
 would I want this package rather than some other directory server).

As with many RFPs, it seems to have just been ripped from upstream.

  As far as I can tell, there is no-one packaging it yet, feel free to
  contribute, I imagine that it would be good to have this in debian.
 
 Out of curiousity, why?  I can't think of any reason to run FDS when we
 already have OpenLDAP, having had the experience of dealing with FDS's
 technological predecessor.  Is it just the multi-master replication that
 people are interested in?

Comparison:
http://directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/FAQ#How_is_Fedora_Directory_Server_different_from_OpenLDAP.3F
http://directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/Features
http://www.openldap.org/faq/data/cache/645.html
http://www.openldap.org/faq/data/cache/649.html

I guess that would be a question for Maykel Moya and Ryan Lovett :)
What is your reason for preferring FDS over OpenLDAP?

Other reason is the marketing buzz surrounding FDS - debian doesn't
have the oh-so-great and recently freed FDS, oh well, looks like we use
fedora. Also, see the last paragraph of this:

http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/06/22/1543207from=rss

 (Whatever the answer is, assuming there is some compelling feature not
 found in OpenLDAP, it should go into the package description.)

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Bug#322688: ITP: lufis -- allows applications using lufs to use fuse instead

2005-08-12 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: lufis
  Version : 0.3
  Upstream Author : Miklos Szeredi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://fuse.sourceforge.net
* License : GPL
  Description : allows applications using lufs to use fuse instead
This is a modified LUFS daemon, which uses the FUSE kernel module.  It
is binary compatible with existing LUFS filesystems, so no recompilation
is needed.

I'm packaging this in order to allow packaging captive ntfs (I'm
surprised debian doesn't have this) without depending on lufs, which is
unmaintained upstream, but use fuse instead, which is maintained
upstream.

The description is pretty cruddy, if anyone has suggestions, that would
be great.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.12-1-k7
Locale: LANG=en_AU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

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Bug#324214: ITP: ttf-khmeros -- free khmer font from the KhmerOS project

2005-08-20 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: ttf-khmeros
* Version : 3.00-2005
* Upstream Author : Danh Hong/Open Forum of Cambodia
* URL : http://www.khmeros.info/drupal/?q=en/download/fonts
* License : To be clarified with upstream.
* Description : free khmer font from the KhmerOS project
Free fonts for the Khmer language, written in Cambodia, developed by
theKhmer Software Iniative, part of the  Open Forum of Cambodia

Any better long or short description is welcome.

I also intend to separately package Khmer OS System, Khmer OS Moul,
Khmer OS Freehand and Khmer OS Fasthand since they have different
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Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Paul Wise
Sami Dalouche wrote:

 Let's take, for example, Skype's example. It is not available in
 non-free/universe, but some people may still be interested in downloading it,

Once debian-unoffical.org supports Ubuntu, just get users to put
debian-unofficial.org in their /etc/apt/sources.list. They claim that
they will be importing Christian Marillat's mplayer/etc repository too
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Bug#329925: ITP: e00compr -- converter for E00 files

2005-09-24 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: e00compr
  Version : 1.0.0
  Upstream Author : Daniel Morissette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://avce00.maptools.org/e00compr/
* License : MIT
  Description : a program to read/write Arc/Info compressed E00 files
 E00compr is an ANSI C library that reads and writes Arc/Info compressed E00
 files. Both PARTIAL and FULL compression levels are supported.

 This package contains the e00conv command-line program, which takes a E00
 file as input (compressed or not) and copies it to a new file with the
 requested compression level (NONE, PARTIAL or FULL). It also contains the
 header file, static library and some examples needed to create programs
 using the library.

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Bug#333331: ITP: khmer-to-unicode -- converts legacy Khmer encodings to Unicode

2005-10-11 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: khmer-to-unicode
  Version : 1.8a
  Upstream Author : Javier Solá [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.khmeros.info/drupal/?q=en/download/others
* License : LGPL
  Description : converts legacy Khmer encodings to Unicode

These programs take a plain text file encoded in either of the ABC or
Limon Khmer legacy fonts and creates a file that is the equivalent in
Khmer Unicode (UTF-8).

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Bug#337074: ITP: as2api -- API documentation tool for ActionScript 2

2005-11-02 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: as2api
  Version : 0.3
  Upstream Author : David Holroyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.badgers-in-foil.co.uk/projects/as2api/
* License : GPL
  Description : API documentation tool for ActionScript 2

as2api parses ActionScript 2 source code and generates HTML API
documentation in the style of JavaDoc.

I'm packaging this as part of a general effort to package osflash.org
related stuff. Wiki page here: http://osflash.org/debian_packaging

I'm in contact with upstream about licence issues. I'll require a
sponsor once these are sorted and I've completed the packaging.

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Bug#337477: ITP: etl-dev -- Voria Extended Class and Template Library

2005-11-04 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: etl-dev
  Version : 0.04.06
  Upstream Author : Robert B. Quattlebaum Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.deepdarc.com/2005/11/01/synfig-developer-preview/
* License : GPL
  Description : Voria Extended Class and Template Library

VoriaETL is a multiplatform class and template library designed to
complement and supplement the C++ STL.

I'm packaging this in order to package synfig, which depends on it.
Co-maintainers welcome, and I'll need a sponsor once the packaging is
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Bug#337516: ITP: synfig -- vector-based 2D animation studio

2005-11-04 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: synfig
  Version : 0.61.00-38
  Upstream Author : Robert B. Quattlebaum Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.synfig.com/
* License : GPL
  Description : vector-based 2D animation studio

synfig is a vector based 2D animation package. It is designed to be
capable of producing feature-film quality animation. It eliminates the
need for tweening, preventing the need to hand-draw each frame.

Some key features:

* Spatial and temporal resolution independence - sharp and smooth ant
any resolution or framerate.
* Supports high dynamic range images (unfortunately this makes it slow.
a 2000% speed-up is planned).
* Comes with geometric, gradient, filter, distortion/transformation,
fractal and other layers.

Homepage: http://www.synfig.com/

I've asked upstream to remove all the PROPRIETARY and CONFIDENTIAL
notices from the source now that he has released it under the GPL. It
also doesn't build with gcc-4.0 at the moment.

Co-maintainers welcome. I'll need a sponsor once the upstream licence
stuff is sorted and I've packaged it.

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Bug#337518: ITP: synfigstudio -- GUI package for synfig (a 2D vector animation package)

2005-11-04 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: synfigstudio
  Version : 0.61.00-39
  Upstream Author : Robert B. Quattlebaum Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.synfig.com/
* License : GPL
  Description : GUI package for synfig (a 2D vector animation package)

synfig is a vector based 2D animation package. It is designed to be
capable of producing feature-film quality animation.

This package contains the graphical user interface for synfig.

Homepage: http://www.synfig.com/

I've asked upstream to remove all the PROPRIETARY and CONFIDENTIAL
notices from the source now that he has released it under the GPL. It
also doesn't build with gcc-4.0 at the moment.

Co-maintainers welcome. I'll need a sponsor once the upstream licence
stuff is sorted and I've packaged it.

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Bug#306290: ITP: ttf-mph-2b-damase -- font with ranges from the latest version of unicode

2005-04-25 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: ttf-mph-2b-damase
  Version : 001.000
  Upstream Author : Mark Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://fixedsys.org/~node_ue/fonts/
* License : Public Domain
  Description : font with ranges from the latest version of unicode

MPH 2B Damase is a SuperUnicode font, including some ranges in Plane 1
and some ranges added only in the latest release of the Unicode
standard, 4.1 (such as Tifinagh, Kharosthi, hPhags-pa, Old Persian
Cuneiform etc).

Better short/long descriptions very welcome.

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Bug#308433: ITP: helpdeco -- decompile Microsoft WinHelp files

2005-05-10 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Package name: helpdeco
  Version : 2.1.1
  Upstream Author : Manfred Winterhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://sf.net/projects/helpdeco/
* License : GPL
  Description : decompile Microsoft WinHelp (.hlp) files

helpdeco dissects HLP help files (WinHelp) of Windows 3.0, 3.1, 3.11,
and Win95 and many MVB multi media viewer titles into all files required
for a rebuild using the appropriate help compiler HC30, HC31, HCP, HCW,
HCRTF, WMVC, MMVC or MVC.

This software is in the process of relicencing from a no-commercial-use
licence to the GNU General Public Licence = 2. Upstream (which I
suppose I am now part of, having initiated the relicencing and done the
commits) is checking the current CVS version before release. I will
begin packaging it and send an RFS after the newly relicenced release is
out. Along with the original author, we invited the helpdeo NetBSD
maintainer to join us in maintaining the code and he accepted.

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Re: Gratituous dependences among packages

2009-03-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote:

 kde is a metapackage that includes _all_ KDE that is not related to
 development. If you just want a functional KDE without games and related
 stuff look at kde-core. Then you can install what you want else using the 
 modules
 metapackages (kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdeadmin) or just the application
 you are missing.

I'm of the opinion that generally meta-packages should use Recommends
rather than Depends.

texlive-fonts-recommended dependencies might need to be relaxed to
Recommends too?

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Re: Extended descriptions size (was Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions)

2009-03-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Filipus Klutiero chea...@gmail.com wrote:

 The extended description needs to be available to APT, not only via
 packages.d.o.

I agree with Neil William's comment in the other thread about removing
long descriptions from the Packages files. I think the obvious place
to put them is in dists/unstable/main/i18n/Translations-en (or C) like
the descriptions from DDTP.

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Re: Extended descriptions size (was Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions)

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org wrote:

 It's another instance of duplication - why retain the long description
 in the Packages file while a translated version also exists from DDTP?
 Probably better for the description to be removed from the Packages
 file completely and the DDTP one contains the translated version and
 English ones for those with missing or outdated translations. That way,
 apt spends less time parsing the (smaller) Packages file when doing
 ordinary stuff like package installation and only needs to look at the
 DDTP information when specifically called as 'apt-cache search'.

One issue is that many people will have disabled downloading
translations so they'll need to change their configuration from none
to en:

APT::Acquire::Translation none;

Since en will now be a Translation, perhaps a different config item
is more appropriate:

APT::Acquire::Description en;

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Re: Debian 4.0 and Lustre

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:38 AM,  set...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would like to know if there is any package of debian 4.0 and Lustre.
  This will be the ultimate.

lustre appears to be only available in Debian 5.0 (lenny) and later,
you might want to upgrade to lenny instead of continuing to use etch.
There is also no etch-backport on backports.org. I suggest you contact
the lustre maintainers about adding a backport to backports.org:

http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lustre
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-lustre-maintainers

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Re: Re: Debian 4.0 and Lustre

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:52 PM,  set...@gmail.com wrote:

 I prefer Debian 4.0 because I feel it is more stable than 5.0. Am I right?

I am unable to detect any difference in stability between etch  lenny
for my use-cases. There is more useful software available for lenny
though and it will be security-supported for longer so I use that
where possible.

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Re: realtime kernel for Debian (was: Please Improve Debian for Multimedia Production)

2009-03-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Grammostola Rosea
rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mmh this is interesting, cause there is an realtime kernel available in the
 ubuntu hardy repo, but not in Debian yet. Would be nice if there was one
 which users could install. But I'm not an rt-kernel expert at all, so maybe
 I should forward this to some other people...

 But I think it's good to have some discussion about a realtime kernel for
 Debian on the Debian-dev list...
 Looking forward to your opinions on this.

We have had a Xen Linux image, so there should be no problem to add an
-rt kernel variant. I would suggest filing a wishlist bug with patch
on the linux-2.6 source package.

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Re: [renamed] Debian crda?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez mcg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Last time I poked them it seemed it was not easy to figure out how to
 deal with, if at all, the optional but recommended RSA signature stuff
 [1] with the DFSG.

 [1] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Regulatory#RSADigitalSignature

What is the percieved DFSG/RSA conflict? I can't detect any based on
that section of the page.

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Re: #520646: binNMU oprofile

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Adeodato Simó wrote:

 I’m told libbfd.so is a private/internal library of binutils that should
 not be dynamically linked against. A static version exists (libbfd.a),
 and packages should be using that AFAIK.

 Cc'ing -devel in case there’s a reason it should not be that way. If, on
 the contrary, nobody objects, I’ll file a wishlist against lintian so
 that an error (warning?) is emitted for packages that DT_NEED that
 library (and libopcodes/libiberty as well?)

Please ensure that the lintian warning says to get the package added
to the Debian security team's embedded code copies documentation.

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Re: [renamed] Debian crda?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Kel Modderman k...@otaku42.de wrote:

 The DFSG seems to suggest that the source code to the regulatory database
 should be modifiable and the derived work distributed under the same license.

It is my understanding that:

Debian probably won't need to build the regdb from source most of the
time so we can just ship the upstream regulatory.bin file most of the
time.

When we do, just adding a second public key to the CRDA  pubkeys dir
and using the corresponding private key (from outside the package)
during the build process of wireless-regdb would be just fine. This
would mean the maintainer of crda would also have to be the
wireless-regdb maintainer. I assume the wireless-regdb is
architecture-independent so this would work because the buildds do not
build such packages.

It is possible for users to add more public keys to the CRDA  pubkeys
dir and build their own wireless-regdb using their own private key.

debian-volatile isn't an appropriate place for this because many
stable users don't use volatile and it is fairly important they are
kept up to date with this, kinda like the timezone database.

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Re: [renamed] Debian crda?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:

 When we do, just adding a second public key to the CRDA  pubkeys dir
 and using the corresponding private key (from outside the package)
 during the build process of wireless-regdb would be just fine. This
 would mean the maintainer of crda would also have to be the
 wireless-regdb maintainer. I assume the wireless-regdb is
 architecture-independent so this would work because the buildds do not
 build such packages.

Brainwave: no need to add a second public key to CRDA itself, the
wireless-regdb could install the public key corresponding to the
private key it was built with.

 It is possible for users to add more public keys to the CRDA  pubkeys
 dir and build their own wireless-regdb using their own private key.

The above simplification makes this much easier.

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Re: [renamed] Debian crda?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez mcg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Brainwave: no need to add a second public key to CRDA itself, the
 wireless-regdb could install the public key corresponding to the
 private key it was built with.

 Can you elaborate on what you mean? Do you mean for wireless-regdb to
 put the actual pubkey into the users' system somewhere? Otherwise not
 sure what you mean.

The crda package would contain the default upstream public key.

The wireless-regdb would ship the Debian maintainer's pubkey as
debian/pubkeys/debian.pem in the source package and
/lib/crda/pubkeys/debian.pub.pem (or similar) in the binary package.

Ubuntu would add their pubkey in a similar way.

When wireless-regdb is built, it would:

check the sha1sum/sha256sum of db.txt (alternatively upstream could
add a detached signature if possible to the tarball/git repo)

if the db.txt is identical to the upstream one (or signed by
upstream), ship the upstream regulatory.bin file

if the db.txt has been modified:

if no private key is available, generate one automatically

rebuild the regulatory.bin file using the private key

create the corresponding public key and install it in the package as
/lib/crda/pubkeys/custom.pub.pem when it is not the same public key as
one of the ones in debian/pubkeys/*.pem (avoids shipping two copies of
the Debian pubkey)

this scheme requires standard locations for the private key. I would
suggest either ~/.debian-wireless-regdb.priv.pem or
debian-wireless-regdb.priv.pem in the package build directory.

 It is possible for users to add more public keys to the CRDA  pubkeys
 dir and build their own wireless-regdb using their own private key.

 The above simplification makes this much easier.

 Not sure what you mean, but the idea with the pubkeys directory

The above scheme would allow users who apt-get source wireless-regdb,
edit db.txt, debuild, debi to automatically trust their own key, as
well as trusting Debian's key and the upstream key.

I wonder if any of this would be even remotely acceptable to
regulatory authorities.

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Re: New quilt source format

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote:

 Is there any information on how the typical package is supposed to use this 
 new format,

See the dpkg-source manual page and this wiki page:

http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0

 (I'm a little confused on this) is it even in place yet?

No, see here:

http://bugs.debian.org/457345

 If it's not in place how do we prepare for it?

Convert your packages to it and see if they build fine.

Send patches for stuff that needs to be adapted to use it.

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Re: NEW processing

2009-03-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Changwoo Ryu wrote:

 I suggest just to let those buggy packages in, and to file bugs to the
 BTS. Such big problems always happen even with no NEW check involved and
 the ftpmasters team can't prevent all of them anyway. Such problems
 should be fixed, but why should we wait for weeks or months to fix them?

That is a really bad idea. A better alternative is to have them
automatically rejected. Reduces ftpmaster and QA work rather than
increasing them.

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Re: Suggestions about apt-spy

2009-03-28 Thread Paul Wise
2009/3/28 Stefano Canepa s...@linux.it:

 Where is a the right place to copy the mirror list?

Perhaps a static copy in /usr/share/apt-spy and the dynamically
downloaded version at /var/cache/apt-spy/ ?

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Re: [Soc-coordination] Official Debian AWS EC2 AMIs?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Gustavo Franco stra...@debian.org wrote:

 Agreed and please don't forget Eucalyptus[0].

 [0] = http://eucalyptus.cs.ucsb.edu/

Ubuntu already packaged that so it might be worth building on their work.

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Re: demoting a dependency

2009-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote:

 Is there a more elegant way to do this?

Not sure if it would work with your case, but xchat used this to
demote plugin dependencies to recommends:

dh_shlibdeps -a -u'-dDepends debian/xchat/usr/bin/xchat -dRecommends'

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Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:

 Afaik, Ubuntu is the only Linux distro which supports and uses tmpfs by 
 default.

The OpenEmbedded distros do this too, I've especially seen that the
ones associated with OpenMoko do that.

In addition the pkg-fso folk's Debian for OpenMoko installer script
puts /var/run, /var/lock on a tmpfs and presumably when d-i supports
the OpenMoko devices that will be the default on such devices.

 Again, if there would be a list of cons, I'd be much happier in supporting 
 this
 new policy. Unfortunately I only see disadvantages.

I guess you mean pros rather than cons. One would be that it reduces
the number of useless writes to disk/flash, which could be important
for mobile situations like phones.

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Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
 Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org writes:
 On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 11:40:57PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Interesting - The unix way IMHO was that /tmp looses content on reboot
 while /var/tmp did not. This had been the case for commercial Unices for
 at least some decades.

 I'm pretty sure Michael meant /var/lock when he said /var/tmp above.
 Policy 3.8.1 doesn't change anything about /var/tmp.

The embedded devices I mentioned in another message in this thread
have /var/tmp as a tmpfs too.

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Re: New architectures

2009-04-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org wrote:

 How packages that run on Linux only should handle those new architectures?

Same as for stuff that only runs on i386; port them to kFreeBSD or
restrict them to linux architectures and add them to P-a-s.

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Team uploads

2009-04-05 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all,

In Debian we have several teams working on maintaining large numbers
of packages (pkg-games, pkg-perl, pkg-gnome for example). I
proposed[1] to silence the lintian NMU warnings in the case of team
uploads; where the person doing the upload is a member of the team in
Maintainers but is not present in Uploaders. Does anyone think this
concept of team uploads has merit?

1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-lint-maint/2009/04/threads.html#00043

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Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Romain Beauxis wrote:

 I also use lilo for /boot on LVM and I also clearly remember that was the
 major reason for the previous debate about the removal of lilo.

Grub2 in lenny and later contains an lvm module:

/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/lvm.mod

Has anyone who uses lilo for this tried grub2?

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Bug#522753: ITP: primrose -- compelling tile-placement puzzle game

2009-04-06 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise p...@debian.org
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* Package name: primrose
  Version : 5
  Upstream Author : Jason Rohrer
* URL : http://primrose.sf.net
* License : None (Public Domain)
  Programming Lang: C++, PHP
  Description : compelling tile-placement puzzle game

Long description will be a distillation of the description linked from
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Re: Improvements to ‘debian/watch’for fetching f rom VCS

2009-04-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

        What am I missing?

One case I can think of; it is (possibly) common for sponsors to check
that the result from get-orig-source matches the contents of the
tarball uploaded to mentors by the sponsee.

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Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:

 as grub was not really maintained. Also grub2 doesn't seems so fast in
 development.
 I think these kind of project have difficult to maintain motivated
 maintainer.

I would really love to own a computer that used coreboot, Linux and a
userland bootloader like kboot/kexec-loader/runnix to boot.

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Bug#524565: ITP: clamav-unofficial-sigs -- update script for 3rd-party clamav signatures

2009-04-18 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise p...@debian.org
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 
pkg-clamav-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org

* Package name: clamav-unofficial-sigs
  Version : 2.7.1
  Upstream Author : Bill Landry b...@inetmsg.com
* URL : http://www.inetmsg.com/pub/
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: shell
  Description : update script for 3rd-party clamav signatures

This package provides a script for updating the following sources of
3rd-party clamav signatures until freshclamav gains support for such
signatures. 

The SaneSecurity signatures provide detection of phishing, spear
phishing, fake lottery, ecard malware, casino, fake jobs, fake loans,
419s, fake diplomas, porn, emailed malware and other general spam. 

MSRBL signatures provide detection of image spam and general spam.

SecuriteInfo signatures provide various badware signatures,
securiteinfo.com honeypot signatures, honeynet.cz signatures
and French anti-spam signatures

MalwarePatrol provides detection of mail containing URLs to malware.

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Bug#524846: ITP: between -- game about consciousness and isolation

2009-04-20 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Paul Wise p...@debian.org
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel-ga...@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: between
  Version : 5
  Upstream Author : Jason Rohrer
* URL : 
http://www.esquire.com/features/best-and-brightest-2008/rohrer-game
* License : None (Public Domain)
  Programming Lang: C++, PHP
  Description : game about consciousness and isolation

Long description will be a distillation of the above URL.

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Re: Linux-libre for Debian Lenny

2009-04-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:36 PM, maximilian attems m...@stro.at wrote:

 no point in posting that to devel announce.

Agreed.

 this work is pointless

Only if you think FSF-free is pointless, obviously that isn't everyone.

 if you want a working and dfsg free converging linux-2.6 use our sid packages.
 we are actively working with upstream in getting allmost all drivers
 using request_firmware() and providing the corresponding linux-firmware
 in non-free. see http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing for
 status. excluding drivers/staging 2.6.29 is allmost there, upcoming
 2.6.30 has further request_firmware() and dfsg improvements.

linux-libre goes further and removes even the request_firmware calls
for non-free firmware:

http://static.fsf.org/nosvn/Alexandre_Olivia_-_Linux_Libre_-_LibrePlanet_2009.spx
http://groups.fsf.org/index.php/Alexandre_Oliva_%28LP09%29

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Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

2009-04-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Bradley Smith bradsm...@debian.org wrote:

 As some of you may be aware, myself and a few others are working towards
 an AVR32 port of Debian, which is now making good progress. One problem
 we've come across is since AVR32 is such a new architecture, a fair few
 packages have config.{sub,guess} files that are missing the architecture
 and hence fail to build.

I'd like to see this problem go away once and for all.

How about the scripts check for newer versions of themselves in the
following paths and run those scripts instead of returning the
information directly? Then the buildds for new architectures could
simply install the required version of autotools-dev and be happy.

/usr/share/automake/
/usr/local/share/automake/
~/.automake/

Some non-FHS compliant paths could be added for platforms that need them.

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Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

2009-04-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org wrote:

 It unfortunately wouldn't work for the same reason config.{guess,sub}
 updates don't work, and more. It would need to be incorporated upstream,
 and all debian sources using config.{guess,sub} should be updated to
 these newer versions. That sounds like something that's never going to
 happen.

You don't think upstream would accept the patch? Once they do and the
updates trickle down into new upstreams then this will become more and
more of a non-issue. Obviously it will be a long time before that
happens, probably many years.

Here is what I plan to send upstream:

cur_v=`echo $timestamp | sed s/-//g`

for path in \
  $HOME/.config/automake \
  /usr/local/share/automake \
  /usr/local/share/misc \
  /usr/share/automake \
  /usr/share/misc \
; do

if test -x $path/config.sub ; then
  v=`$path/config.sub --time-stamp | sed s/-//g`
  if test $v -gt $cur_v ; then
$path/config.sub $*
exit $?
  fi
fi
done

 The best debian can do is enforce dpkg-buildpackage or some other dpkg
 binary involved in the source extraction or build startup to replace or
 hack the config.{guess,sub} files itself[1] before the build.

That was suggested on IRC the other night, sounds like a good solution
as long as the buildd admins are notified so that they can file bugs.

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Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

2009-04-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:

 instead.  $* doesn't quote its arguments, and the above works around a
 portability problem with $@ (see the Autoconf manual).

Thanks, added.

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Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

2009-04-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Gabor Gombas gomb...@sztaki.hu wrote:

 Hmm, wouldn't it be better to look for the newest version instead of
 first one that's newer? The above would work on a buildd where there is
 nothing in $HOME or under /usr/local, but could break on user's machines
 if they have a script in say /usr/local/share/automake that's newer than
 what the package has, but still older than what would be needed to build
 correctly.

Good point, how about this?

cur_v=`echo $timestamp | sed s/-//g`

for path in \
  $HOME/.config/automake \
  /usr/local/share/automake \
  /usr/share/automake \
  /usr/share/misc \
; do

if test -x $path/config.guess ; then
  v=`$path/config.guess --time-stamp | sed s/-//g`
  if test $v -gt $cur_v ; then
cur_v=$v
latest=$path
  fi
fi
done

if test x$latest != x ; then
  case $# in
0) $latest/config.guess;;
*) $latest/config.guess $@;;
  esac
  exit $?
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Re: [Is there a lawyer in the room?] JPEG-LS license issue

2009-04-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Mathieu Malaterre
mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote:

 What I do not understand is implementation such as CharLS, which declare:
...
 Ref: http://charls.codeplex.com/

On an unrelated note, please do not package this until upstream fixes
the security issues that are mentioned on the website.

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Re: Outdated config.{sub,guess} package list

2009-04-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org wrote:

 Speaking of which, where can one read more about that port? Are there
 build logs available (one might want to ease your task and keep an eye
 on them for some given packages at least)?

http://avr32.debian.net/
http://ftp-avr32.debian.net/status/architecture.php?a=avr32

Would be nice to move this port to debian-ports.org IMO, since the
debian-ports wanna-build is already linked from the PTS.

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Re: Outdated config.{sub,guess} package list

2009-04-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote:

 Like lintian, your list falsely includes packages that use cdbs to build,
 which automatically updates config.{sub,guess}.

There doesn't seem to be a bug on lintian about this, please file one.

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Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

2009-04-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:

 Good point, how about this?

Sent this patch upstream, will see what they say.

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Re: Misc developer news (#15)

2009-05-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, seems like lists.alioth.debian.org doesn't have the same functionality.
 Is there any plan for this?

Due to the way pipermail works, removing messages from the archives
would break all the URLs. Options for working around this might be:

Blocking specific messages in apache using Alias or similar.

Switching to lurker (or another archiver) since that has persistent URLs IIRC.

Eventually mailman 3 will be released and IIRC pipermail will be
removed so switching to another archiver will need to be done anyway
in the long term.

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Re: Debian is switching to EGLIBC

2009-05-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Michael Prokop m...@grml.org wrote:

 No. Though I think that for essential packages like libc it could be
 worth a public discussion.

In this case there wouldn't be any point of discussing it, I predict
the discussion would simply be yes, AOL, +1, do it already,
why isn't it done yet and so on.

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Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Harald Braumann ha...@unheit.net wrote:

 I never talked about Exim. I was just opposing the proposition, that
 some esoteric mailer like nullsmtp or esmtp will become the default in
 Debian.

I find the notion of a default MTA to be silly. Most desktops or
laptops or cellphones proably do not need an MTA. The MTA to choose on
a server depends on what you are doing with the server. My point is
that MTA requirements are too diverse to possibly consider any one MTA
a useful default.

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Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-05-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote:

 Debuild already creates a build log. I think it would be nice to
 include that file in the changes file and have DAK forward it to
 buildd.debian.org for archival. git-buildpackage, svn-buildpackage,
 ... or even dpkg-buildpackage could do this too.

It would be much nicer to discard maintainer-built packages and build
everything on the buildds. Then we get build logs as well as the
opportunity to replicate Ubuntu's automatically created debug debs.

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Re: [renamed] Debian crda?

2009-05-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Kel Modderman k...@otaku42.de wrote:

 (Dropped the CC to linux-wireless as it rejected my other attempt to send
 message claiming it was part HTML/Spam. Apologies if you get two copies.)

Maybe you should send plain text email instead?

 I would rather the build process fail if the packager has not prepared
 themselves a priv/pub key pair for maintaining wireless-regdb package or
 else we could end up with a new key pair created on-the-fly and being used
 to sign a regulatory.bin which is not recognised by the currently available
 crda until it is recompiled with the new key in its PUBKEY_DIR.

Uhh, what? Does crda not read all of the keys available in its pubkey
dir? If not, the scheme I imagined is completely wrong. I assumed that
crda would look at /lib/crda/pubkeys at runtime when it starts up
rather than everything being compiled into the binary.

 Instead the debian packaging could provide some documentation/convenience
 code for expected handling of maintainer priv/pub key pairs for signing
 and authentication of regulatory.bin. Attempted to write such stuff here:

Seems reasonable.

 When new keys are added to debian/pubkeys, the crda package needs to be
 rebuilt with an updated versioned build dependency: the wireless-regdb
 package version with the new key(s).

Why is this? Isn't it enough to just install the wireless-regdb
package containing the new key?

 Made an attempt at packaging wireless-regdb and crda after thinking about
 stuff discussed in this thread, the proposed packaging is at:
 svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-wpa/wireless-regdb/trunk/
 svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-wpa/crda/trunk/

 Can people please take a good look at this please to make sure it is a
 viable packaging effort?

A review:

Please file ITP bugs.

Circular dependencies are bad, please drop the wireless-regdb - crda
Depends down to a Suggests.

The wireless-regdb patches look like they belong upstream.

Please adjust the packaging so it works on lenny, you've used some
debhelper/quilt features that don't work there (or in testing yet). At
some point we'll have lennyandahalf and I think a cf80211/mac80211
kernel plus crda/wireless-regdb are an important part of that.

I'm a bit worried about the Build-Depends on tzdata, does that mean
crda embeds the TZ data in its binary and needs a binNMU whenever
tzdata is updated? This is especially bad for TZ updates in stable.
Ah, I see you only embed it in /lib/crda/setregdomain_zone_codes,
which still means binNMUs. I suggest that you send upstream a patch
for doing this TZ - regdomain mapping at runtime in the crda binary
using the installed zone.tab file when available. Preferably it should
detect when the zone.tab file is updated and reload the mapping and
reset the regdomain based on the mapping.

See my comment above about embedding the wireless-regdb keys in the
binary, which I think is a bad idea.

Please use these as the homepages, they are slightly more specific:

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Regulatory/#CRDA
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Regulatory/#Theregulatorydatabase

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Re: @debian.org out of working?

2009-05-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM, LI Daobing lidaob...@gmail.com wrote:

 sounds many f...@debian.org mail address is out of working (including mine).

Same here, however it looks like it is fixed now (at least for p...@debian.org).

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Re: Debian source code search engine

2009-05-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Peter De Wachter pdewa...@gmail.com wrote:

 The software used is OpenGrok, originally developed at
 Sun for OpenSolaris (http://opensolaris.org/os/project/opengrok). It's
 quite nice, although a bit slow with this amount of source code.

Anyone know if there is or will be a fossology instance indexing
Debian source packages?

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Re: debian and lilypond 2.12

2009-05-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:44 AM, rosea grammostola
rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could someone fix Lilypond in Debian. There are also some people busy with
 packaging Frescobaldi for Debian, but it isn't possible to upload it without
 having Lilypond fixed and updated to the recent stable version.

It looks like lilypond is unmaintained in Debian, so that is unlikely
to happen until it gets a new maintainer or newly active maintainer.
CCing the maintainer, hopefully they will respond.

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Re: Debian GNU/Hurd porter box strauss.debian.net available

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Felipe Sateler fsate...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it would be useful to have a new package with the ssh public key
 fingerprints of all accessible debian machines, possibly signed by some DSA
 member (to detect local tampering). It would ease a trust path from the user
 to the machine. Having to look up these messages (if they exist in the first
 place), and creating a trust path from yourself to the poster when one might
 need to connect is suboptimal I think.

Agreed.

Adding the Debian machine SSH keys to the PGP web of trust via
monkeysphere would be nice too.

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Re: Debtags localisation and font tags proposal

2009-05-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org wrote:

 To have a software that generate a list of suitable fonts for a user
 would also require something more specific than tags. An example that
 Arne made was of a font which contains latin and cyrilic characters, but
 misses the special latin characters for Serbian.

The language stuff should be automatically generated from the fonts
themselves. I suggest basing that on what Fedora has done for
automatic font installation with PackageKit:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AutoFontsAndMimeInstaller

The technical details are that they run fc-query --format '%{=pkgkit}'
/tmp/newathu.ttf, which gives output like this:

$ fc-query --format '%{=pkgkit}' /tmp/newathu.ttf
font(newathenaunicode)
font(:lang=aa)
font(:lang=af)
font(:lang=an)
font(:lang=ast)
font(:lang=av)
font(:lang=ay)
font(:lang=be)
font(:lang=bg)
font(:lang=bi)
font(:lang=br)
font(:lang=bs)
font(:lang=ca)
font(:lang=ce)
font(:lang=ch)
font(:lang=co)
font(:lang=crh)
font(:lang=cs)
font(:lang=csb)
font(:lang=cy)
font(:lang=da)
font(:lang=de)
font(:lang=el)
font(:lang=en)
font(:lang=eo)
font(:lang=es)
font(:lang=et)
font(:lang=eu)
font(:lang=fi)
font(:lang=fil)
font(:lang=fj)
font(:lang=fo)
font(:lang=fr)
font(:lang=fur)
font(:lang=fy)
font(:lang=gd)
font(:lang=gl)
font(:lang=gv)
font(:lang=ho)
font(:lang=hr)
font(:lang=hsb)
font(:lang=ht)
font(:lang=hu)
font(:lang=ia)
font(:lang=id)
font(:lang=ie)
font(:lang=ik)
font(:lang=io)
font(:lang=is)
font(:lang=it)
font(:lang=jv)
font(:lang=ki)
font(:lang=kj)
font(:lang=kl)
font(:lang=ku-tr)
font(:lang=kum)
font(:lang=kw)
font(:lang=kwm)
font(:lang=la)
font(:lang=lb)
font(:lang=lez)
font(:lang=lg)
font(:lang=li)
font(:lang=lt)
font(:lang=lv)
font(:lang=mg)
font(:lang=mh)
font(:lang=mo)
font(:lang=ms)
font(:lang=mt)
font(:lang=na)
font(:lang=nb)
font(:lang=nds)
font(:lang=ng)
font(:lang=nl)
font(:lang=nn)
font(:lang=no)
font(:lang=nr)
font(:lang=nso)
font(:lang=ny)
font(:lang=oc)
font(:lang=om)
font(:lang=os)
font(:lang=pap-an)
font(:lang=pap-aw)
font(:lang=pl)
font(:lang=pt)
font(:lang=qu)
font(:lang=rm)
font(:lang=rn)
font(:lang=ro)
font(:lang=ru)
font(:lang=rw)
font(:lang=sc)
font(:lang=se)
font(:lang=sel)
font(:lang=sg)
font(:lang=shs)
font(:lang=sk)
font(:lang=sl)
font(:lang=sma)
font(:lang=smj)
font(:lang=smn)
font(:lang=sn)
font(:lang=so)
font(:lang=sq)
font(:lang=sr)
font(:lang=ss)
font(:lang=st)
font(:lang=su)
font(:lang=sv)
font(:lang=sw)
font(:lang=tk)
font(:lang=tl)
font(:lang=tn)
font(:lang=tr)
font(:lang=ts)
font(:lang=ty)
font(:lang=uk)
font(:lang=uz)
font(:lang=vo)
font(:lang=vot)
font(:lang=wa)
font(:lang=wen)
font(:lang=wo)
font(:lang=xh)
font(:lang=yap)
font(:lang=za)
font(:lang=zu)

fc-query will hopefully become available to Debian when fontconfig
2.7.0 is released. The output above is based on RPM's PROVIDES thing.
For Debian we could either invent another control field or use
Provides: font-lang-code in binary packages and Provides:
${font:Provides} in source packages and create a dh_font_provides or
similar.

fc-query also has human-readable output not dissimilar to the fc-match
-v output:

http://fpaste.org/paste/13184

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stopped daemons starting again during upgrade

2009-05-31 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all,

I recently did an upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I did it in single
user mode / runlevel 1 (with all the daemons stopped). I noted that
during the upgrade various daemons were started again. IMO it is
reasonable to expect that stopped daemons stay stopped during an
upgrade, expecially in runlevel 1. Does anyone else agree? Is this a
bug in each of the packages with a daemon or in the init system?

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Re: Vcs-Svn field and trunk

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Felipe Sateler fsate...@gmail.com wrote:

 Recently I've ran into a few cases were doing debcheckout of a package using
 svn downloads the whole thing: tags, branches and trunk.  I would expect
 debcheckout to give me just the HEAD of development. What should be the sane
 behavior?

Checking out trunk sounds like reasonable behaviour, I guess file
minor bugs when you encounter this issue.

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Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:09 AM, John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote:

 I'm CCing this to Debian-devel because I think it speaks to a larger
 issue.

 I just downloaded a PDF, and tried to copy and paste a bit of text
 from it.  I used the selection tool, and Okular offered to speak it to
 me, but said Copy forbidden by DRM.

This thread has now reached LWN:

http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/335415/8447f6ec4310c100/

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Re: Bug#531450: ITP: gmameui -- front-end for the arcade games emulator MAME

2009-06-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Loïc Martin loic.mart...@gmail.com wrote:
 Christian Marillat wrote:
 Loïc Martin loic.mart...@gmail.com writes:
 * License         : GPL2+
 This package should go in contrib because he depends on non-free
 packages (mame-*).


 Right, since it depends on MAME (SDLMAME, XMAME - AFAIK only XMAME is in
 Debian atm), whose license is restrictive, I had put it in Section:
 non-free/games (debian/control). Was that the right thing (I must say I
 still have trouble with some Debian terms) or is there something else to do?

I note the GPLv2+ is probably not compatible with the MAME non-free
license. How does gmameui interact with MAME? Is the way it does that
likely to form a derivative work? If so we cannot distribute gmameui.

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Re: Removal of fc-cache calls in postinsts

2009-06-13 Thread Paul Wise
2009/6/14 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org:

 Re-running fc-cache used to be done by defoma, but people kept adding
 fc-cache calls manually.  They turned out to have been right, since
 defoma support was ripped out of fontconfig a while ago.

It was? I still see this file in the fontconfig package (2.6.0-3):

/usr/share/defoma/scripts/fontconfig.defoma

I read somewhere a future version of fontconfig (presumably the branch
shipped with Fedora) won't even need the dpkg trigger, running apps
will automatically detect newly installed fonts.

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Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Charles Plessyple...@debian.org wrote:

 The dh_make template for debian/copyright induces many developers to put their
 packaging work under the GPL, and I have already seen packages whose license 
 is
 otherwise BSD-ish with such patches. If the maintainer suddenly goes MIA and
 the patch is non-trivial, then in theory if we want to respect what is 
 written,
 we are stuck with a GPL'ed patch. Therefore, we have an optional License field
 to make things crystal clear if necessary.

Sounds like dh_make needs a bug report about the default packagaging
license, could you file one?

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Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Paul Wise
2009/6/19 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org:

 It’s already better, but for more readability, would it be possible to
 have a registered list of bug tracking aliases? For example:
        Bug-Debian: #12345
        Bug-Ubuntu: #2356
        Bug-GNOME: #5671

Personally I'd prefer URLs (for all bugs, including Debian ones) for
the simple reason that no additional information is needed to access
the bugs.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] using OpenPGP notations to indicate keysigning practices [was: Re: GPG keysigning?]

2009-06-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Daniel Kahn
Gillmord...@fifthhorseman.net wrote:

 I think that misses a critical point; i want to use my OpenPGP key for a
 variety of purposes both in and out of debian.  I consider it a baseline
 tool for managing my digital identity.  While i'm happy to obey
 debian-specific guidelines for debian-specific purposes, i have no
 intention of obeying debian-specific guidelines for projects outside of
 debian, except perhaps by coincidence.

 I'm *not* saying that i will sign keys blindly or anything, but there
 are scenarios and groups i interact with where it is meaningful and/or
 useful to sign a role key, a machine key, or a pseudonymous key, for
 example.  If debian makes up some debian-specific guidelines that say
 you must not sign pseudonymous keys, i cannot follow those
 instructions without changing my key (or having a debian-specific key
 unrelated to my non-debian identity, which seems to defeat the whole
 point of the binding).

Would subkeys help in this scenario? (hint hint, some good docs about
real-world subkey usage are needed).

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Re: A standard patch rule for our rules

2009-07-01 Thread Paul Wise
Nice poem :)

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Re: Re-activating an emeritus account

2009-07-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM, John Ferlitojo...@inodes.org wrote:

 I've been trying to become a Debian Developer again for a while. I am
 currently in emeritus status. The correct process for this according
 to [1] is to email da-mana...@d.o which I have done twice in the last
 year with no response.

Try prodding the DAMs (Ganneff  Myon) or FD (bzed, Yoe, Myon, man-di)
on IRC on #debian-devel or #debian-newmaint. It is possible that the
mails went missing or unnoticed somehow.

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Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Salvatore
Bonaccorsosalvatore.bonacco...@gmail.com wrote:

 Having only the bugnumber should work too, but the URL is then:
 https://sourceforge.net/support/tracker.php?aid=1215086

That can be further shortened to this:

http://sf.net/support/tracker.php?aid=1215086

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Re: Reporting bug on documentation

2009-07-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:32 PM, mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote:

  Where should I report broken links from:

 http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/new-maintainer

  There is a link to :
 http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/new-maintainer.html#mentors

 which does not exist.

The link works for me.

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Re: Reporting bug on documentation

2009-07-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Neil Williamscodeh...@debian.org wrote:

 Are you sure?

Yes.

 Is it a cached page you're seeing?

Nope, cache = off in ~/.wgetrc

 From this end, none of the pages exist.

 http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/scope.html
 http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/developer-duties.html

 Some mirrors have also lost the content:

 http://www.uk.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/developer-duties.html

 Some mirrors retain the files:

 http://www.fr.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/developer-duties.html
 http://www.fr.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/new-maintainer.html#mentors

www.debian.org now uses GeoIP, which means that I get a different
www.d.o mirror to you by default. I guess the uk mirror is borken
somehow.

Anyways, asking on debian-www would be appropriate.

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Re: Coordinating efforts to get a new kernel in testing?

2009-07-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote:

 Like FTBFS of linux-modules-extra-2.6 on 3 architectures I guess? That
 seemed to me like a valid reason not to want to migrate .29 to testing.

Also the armel linux-2.6 FTBFS:

https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=linux-2.6;ver=2.6.30-2;arch=armel;stamp=1247068753

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Re: How to get all dependent source packages

2009-07-16 Thread Paul Wise
apt-src might be useful to you.

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Re: How to orphan a package without being the maintainer

2009-07-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM, LIU Qiliuq...@gmail.com wrote:

 Long time ago I ITA(http://bugs.debian.org/430431) a package, prokyon3.
 Because few persons use this software and I switched to gtk instead of
 qt after I adopted this package (it is qt based), I use this software
 very rarely and I want to orphan it. I have not uploaded this package
 once and I am not the maintainer of this package. How should I orphan
 this package? Just change the owner of this bug to QA group? Also I
 think I submitted a wrong bug report:
 http://bugs.debian.org/537334
 How should I deal with that?

retitle 430431 to O:
merge 537334 into 430431

More information here:

http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/

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Re: The wider implications of stuffing the NEW queue with issues it was not designed for.

2009-07-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:

 Damaged the project... no.  Caused a RC bug to be overlooked... yes.
 I recently encountered a package where the library's binary package
 was not named after the SONAME.  This caused a lintian error which was...
 overridden.  And it broke horribly when the SONAME change went unnoticed
 because... well... the binary was never named after the SONAME and thus
 the check wasn't active anymore.

The person who did this should probably reconsider their need to
maintain library packages or be force-fed 100 copies of libpkg-guide
(and its bugs) printed on sandpaper.

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Re: Whence /usr/lib/debug?

2009-07-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Florian Weimerf...@deneb.enyo.de wrote:

  Separate debug information objects [name?] must be installed under
  /usr/lib/debug.  The file name must be the result of calling
  realpath() on the path to the actual DSO containing code, prepended
  with the string /usr/lib/debug.  Separate debug information
  objects must not be provided for static libraries under
  /usr/lib/debug.

If anything is added to policy I think the wording should allow for
multi-arch too, since that is apparently coming soonish.

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