Re: RFH: How to compile swf files from source

2010-08-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Charlie Smotherman wrote: > In my package ampache it ships xspf_jukebox.fla and xspf_jukebox.swf and > I recently received bug #591202 which states: ... > Are there debian tools available to do this?  If so what are they? The FLA format is binary and completely un

Re: RFH: How to compile swf files from source

2010-08-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote: > But people working with Flash programs uses FLA format as source format? Only those who specifically rely on Adobe's Flash authoring tools. Anyone who uses Linux and builds their Flash files using free tools will usually deal with plain tex

Re: RFH: How to compile swf files from source

2010-08-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote: > canvas.as:12: characters 0-3 : parse error Unexpected var > > It seems that mtasc only  understands ActionScript 2. Correct. There are no free tools to build ActionScript 3, only Adobe's stuff. The mtasc authors moved on to creating their o

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

2010-08-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > So, out of 273 doc-containing packages on this system, just 70 bothered. > I feel a strong urge to put the commands in a script that will auto-file > a bug against any package in the output of the last command.  How do > maintainers feel abou

Re: eXtplorer web file manager packaging work and SWFUpload packaging

2010-08-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > 2/ Ask for help for packaging swfupload ... > How to fix the SWFUpload issue: > - --- > The SWFUpload is a client side file upload tool that uses a combination ... AFAICT the source code is ActionScript 3 so you

Re: QEMU HPPA image

2010-08-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > QEMU doesn't emulate HPPA, that's why you can't find such an image. Looks like there is/was work in progress to do so though: http://hppaqemu.sourceforge.net/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/hppaqemu/ http://repo.or.cz/w/qemu/hppa.git Se

Re: RFH: How to compile swf files from source

2010-08-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > [Stuff about .FLA files] As a follow-up, Martin Owens has written some code to extract FLA files: http://doctormo.org/2010/08/06/fla-extract/ http://doctormo.org/2010/08/04/flash-sources/ -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulW

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Neil Williams wrote: > It's debug output, it is useful when debugging and you need the output, > e.g. when fixing bugs and the user can just be asked to run the command > from the terminal and post the output to help in debugging the bug > report. Generally, the d

Re: libexplain: need access to debian alpha machine

2010-08-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Peter Miller wrote: > I'm trying to get my libexplain project [1] to build on Debian alpha. > I don't actually have access to an alpha machine, so my feedback loop is > via the Debian build farm [2]... one fix per release. > > This isn't completely satisfactory.  

Re: Downloading Testing with Jigdo unsupported?

2010-08-24 Thread Paul Wise
Probably you are looking for this? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/jigdo-cd/ -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archi

Re: Activating t-p-u by default (was: Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian)

2010-08-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org): > >> > Hmhm, out of curiosity, why is t-p-u “way riskier”. >> >> Mostly because there isn't any large pool of systems using t-p-u the way >> there is for unstable, so the aging process where we get

Re: Bug 181493 should now be closed

2010-08-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote: > The Sun RPC license that has plaqued this bug, has been re-licensed to > the 3-clause BSD license. This affects glibc and krb5-*, and possibly > other packages. > > The change from Sun is documented here: > > http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/ent

Re: [poll] Ubuntu column on DDPO visible by default?

2010-08-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Thomas Weber wrote: > Maybe this is a stupid question, but what purpose does the Ubuntu column > have at all? If I'm interested in a package in Ubuntu, that's what > Launchpad is for. I mean, we don't have the information for the 120 > other derivatives there, eit

Re: how to best handle this library update?

2010-09-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:45 PM, sean finney wrote: > i have the following ideas: > > 1) split out the c++ libraries, make the c++ library conflict with the older >    version of libxmlrpc-c3 (conflicting files) make the -dev package >    depend on both libraries, and hope that a half dozen binNMU

Re: Backports service becoming official

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Now that backports are becoming official, I think that it is the right > time to reconsider Some other possibilities; Move *-backports (and *-volatile) into the main archive like they are in Ubuntu. Merge the backports website into www.de

Re: Backports service becoming official

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > If there's any complexity in the backport, that's probably true.  But I'll > note here that for all the backports I do for my packages, all the changes > in the backport are mechanical (and automated) and maintaining that in a > VCS is just mo

Re: RFC: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-09-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Luca Bruno wrote: > You may also be interested in http://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamGuide Just added a link to Enrico's page from that. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subjec

Re: Oracle’s Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel - is th ere more to it?

2010-09-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Oracle recently announced [1] their own 2.6.32-based Unbreakable Enterprise > Kernel for their RHEL derivative called Oracle Linux. The announcement > promises severe performance improvements compared to the stock RHEL kernel. > > Do you

Re: recovering from compromised keys

2010-09-23 Thread Paul Wise
On 9/24/10, Simon McVittie wrote: > Suspend-to-RAM also works, but is obviously not secure against attackers > waking up the laptop and exploiting some bug in a locked screensaver, or > remote access, or whatever. Don't forget about folks using cold boot attacks to grab your key from RAM. I also

Re: recovering from compromised keys

2010-09-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Roland Mas wrote: > Could that be mitigated by the kernel maybe?  Like, it could wipe the > part(s) of the RAM where the key is stored before actually shutting > down the host. For the hibernate case, probably yes. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Keeping content of binary and source packages in UDD (Was: Search for a file in all Debian source packages)

2010-10-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: > But in principle it does sound like a good idea to feed this information > into UDD.  What do you think about keeping content of binary and source > packages inside UDD? Sounds very good to me. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Marius Vollmer [magit] MIA?

2010-10-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Miles Bader wrote: > He's the maintainer of the "magit" package, which doesn't seem to have > received any attention in a long time.  I sent email to him a few weeks > ago, but haven't received any reply. > > Has anyone had contact with Marius Vollmer, or know what

Re: Marius Vollmer [magit] MIA?

2010-10-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Miles Bader wrote: > Thanks for the tips -- I'm not a DD, so I don't think I access to > non-public databases, etc, but these "developers-reference" guidelines > seem useful for the future. Access to the MIA db for non-DDs is usually easy to get via DD. Just ask t

Re: [MBF proposal] Empty packages in the archive

2010-10-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Luca Falavigna wrote: > I've conducted an analysis looking for empty binary packages. > > Here is a dd-list of binary packages packages which would get a bug with > severity serious: ... > Debian Pkg-e Team >   efl-dev ... > Jan Lübbe >   efl-dev (U) ... > Albi

Re: Development packages for pulseaudio

2010-10-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:07 PM, darkestkhan wrote: > Shouldn't there be *-dev packeages for pulseaudio? There are: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libpulse-dev -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Development packages for pulseaudio

2010-10-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:42 PM, darkestkhan wrote: > thanks, foor some reason I didn't test for "pulse" alone... well nwo I > will be able to test lightspark ;) lightspark is already in Debian, no need to compile it: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/lightspark -- bye, pabs http://wik

Re: Misc Developer News (#24)

2010-11-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Simon Ruggier wrote: > Has anyone considered patching the screenshot tools of GNOME or KDE to > include support for automating the process of submitting to > screenshots.debian.org? It would almost certainly cause a big increase > in the number of submissions. Pl

Re: Misc Developer News (#24)

2010-11-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Simon Ruggier wrote: > I suspect that wouldn't be received very well. I'll file it on debshots > though. There isn't much the debshots author can do if upstreams for the screenshot programs don't want support for uploading screenshots to screenshot sites. -- b

Re: source package format 3.0 with multiple tar balls

2010-11-13 Thread Paul Wise
dpkg-source unpacks the second tarball to a subdirectory based on the -manual postfix. The upstream tarball contains a manual subdirectory: $ tar tf luatex-beta-0.64.0-doc.tar.bz2 | head -n2 luatex-beta-0.64.0/manual/ luatex-beta-0.64.0/manual/graphics/ So the manual/manual thing comes from the

Re: Misc Developer News (#24)

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Toni Mueller wrote: > I guess the majority of packages don't lend themselves to have a > screenshot. All libraries, and many daemons, come to mind. Would it be > possible to exclude the screenshot feature for such packages? It always > takes some time to find the

Re: Misc Developer News (#24)

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Ian Campbell wrote: > Why does the "no screenshot available" message need to be an image? If > no screenshot is available why not insert the relevant text instead? Currently packages.d.o does not know if a package has a screenshot or not. To do that it would need

Re: Untrusted search path vulnerabilities

2010-11-18 Thread Paul Wise
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 22:58, Jakub Wilk wrote: >> A number of packages in the archive sets the PYTHONPATH environment variable >> in an insecure way. They do something like: >> >>      PYTHONPATH=/spam/eggs:$PYTHONPATH >> >> This is wrong, because if PYTHONPATH were originally unset or empty,

Re: Nonresponsive maintainer of fbxkb

2010-11-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Peter Zotov wrote: > I've just wrote a small bugfix to fbxkb package (a simple > keyboard indicator) and tried to mail that to the maintainer, > but his email is gone (the corresponding entry in changelog > is dated 2007). What's the correct process for incorpora

Bug#348775: general: terminal emulators' alternatives settings' priorities annoy users

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > . unlike browsers with $BROWSER and desktop-specific settings, there >  is no standard, cross-distro way to make a user-specific choice of >  terminal ... > To solve (2): one could introduce a TERMINAL environment variable > analogous to M

Re: Notification escape sequences

2010-12-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Thomas Thurman wrote: > I am proposing an escape sequence which, when transmitted over SSH or > telnet, requests the client to display a desktop notification.  I have > written up a description, with some example code, at > > http://people.collabora.co.uk/~tthurma

Re: xsnow

2010-12-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:05 AM, lucas.g...@gmail.com wrote: > That's kinda sad... > > Re-implementation as GPL seems the best course... If you are using compiz it looks like there is a plugin for that: http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Snow -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To

Re: List of FTBFS in Ubuntu

2010-12-03 Thread Paul Wise
2010/12/3 Lucas Nussbaum : > From time to time, I do archive rebuilds for Ubuntu too, and I thought > that the results would be interesting for DDs as well, since a FTBFS in > Ubuntu might indicate that the package will FTBFS in the future in > Debian, due to toolchain changes for example. Would

Re: List of FTBFS in Ubuntu

2010-12-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 03/12/10 at 16:00 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > >> Would it be possible to get this listed in the Ubuntu box in the PTS? > > Erm, it would be possible, but that requires a bit of work. Also, I don't > rebuild Ubun

Re: Introducing the "Debian's Automated Code Analysis" (DACA) project

2011-01-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > FOSSology? https://fossology.debian.net/ -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Introducing the "Debian's Automated Code Analysis" (DACA) project

2011-01-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Has the service ever been announced anywhere before this mail of yours? > (It is mentioned in the db.d.o archive, but not much more than that) Not AFAIR, I missed the talk at DebConf10 that Russ mentioned though. Looks like the setup a

Re: Security implication of using force-reload instead of restart ?

2011-01-09 Thread Paul Wise
The same problem occurs with all libraries and is really the responsibility of the sysadmin to deal with. Install debian-goodies and run checkrestart after every relevant upgrade. For desktop users the upgrade software can help, for example PackageKit: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2007/08/23/pac

Re: Forwarding bugs upstream

2011-01-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Drake Wilson wrote: > Which upstream bug trackers, if any, would make the above not work? Sourceforge and probably Gforge/FusionForge trackers. The only tracker I'm aware of which would work is Trac, some instances of which allow anyone to put in anyone else's e

Re: How to build a 32-bit package in Debian?

2011-01-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > What is the recommended course of action for such a package? For now: build on a 32-bit system or in a 32-bit chroot. Other options in increasing order of preference: Add deps to ia32-libs. Add lib32 packages for the deps. Help fix

Re: Equivalent packages between Linux distributions

2011-01-19 Thread Paul Wise
You might want to look at the PackageMap project started by a Debian/Gentoo contributor: http://blog.hartwork.org/?p=373 http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/packagemap -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Re: security updates introducing breakage

2011-01-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Brian May wrote: > What is policy when security updates for stable introduce new > regressions in software that weren't there before? Can these get fixed > in stable? If a stable security update contained a regression, usually that is fixed with an update in the

Re: Bits from the Security Team (for those that care about bits)

2011-01-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Iustin Pop wrote: > First, tests run during a package build are good, but they do not > ensure, for example, that the package as installed is working OK. I've > been thinking that (also) providing tests to be run after the package is > installed (and not on the bu

Bug#611793: ITP: sleepisdeath -- a storytelling game for two players

2011-02-02 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Wise X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel-ga...@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: sleepisdeath Version : 16 Upstream Author : Jason Rohrer * URL : http://sleepisdeath.net/ * License : None

Re: Bug#593339: RFP: freeorion -- FreeOrion is a free, open source, turn-based space empire and galactic conquest computer game

2011-02-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > * [a show stopper] it requires Nvidia's CG Toolkit -- non-free >  non-distributable.  The upstream is in love in that piece of crock, and >  declares it is and should be mandatory. Looks like that is no longer required since November 2010:

Re: Help needed please help

2011-02-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Marin George Sorin wrote: > Hy can you please help me get rid of red screen ...please i asked so many > ppl and no 1 knows how to help me...it`s about GRUB4DOS 0.4.4 i can give you > every detail please answer me You have contacted the email list for Debian develo

Re: Kernel

2011-02-08 Thread Paul Wise
[presumably you are not subscribed, CCing you] On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Pontus Andersson wrote: > Hi. I like to make a request regarding the Debian Linux kernel. > I think the "tux boot" should be compiled with the Debian logo.. > With tux boot I mean that some distros e.g. Arch and slackw

Re: Upcoming FTPMaster meeting

2011-02-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > Since there is no support for auto-building arch-independent binaries I would hope that throwing away developer built debs would also apply to arch-independent packages, IIRC that was part of the proposal. There was talk of a Build-Architec

Re: Upcoming FTPMaster meeting

2011-02-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > On ARM, it's 90MB, I guess MIPS should be similar. > The man page says 65MB even in -9, but I guess they didn't count in the > code, libc, buffers and the likes. > > Trying to run unmodified Debian on 64MB is a suicide, I'd say the weakest >

Re: Adopt a removed package: how to ?

2011-02-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > I plan to adopt a removed from archive package (see #183373). > > How can I do ? > > I have marked myself as ITA of 183373. It is the right way ? Since it will be a new package, that probably should be an ITP. > I plan to download prev

Re: RFC: bringing back task packages

2011-02-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > it would be very exciting to have the possibility to select a blend at the > installation. To circumvent the limitation of space, how about having a single > line to select ‘Chose a Debian Pure Blend‘, that would lead to a page that > provi

Re: Aren't there any checks in place to prevent a package from becoming uninstallable?

2011-02-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > We don't care if something is temporarily uninstallable in unstable. The > only way to prevent that from happening would be to keep packages from > entering unstable unless all their dependencies are in unstable already, > and that would pr

Re: potential MBF: first alternate depends not available in main

2011-03-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > If you have non-free enabled and install a package from main, it should > install > the dependencies from main. So you should have e.g. "rar | rar-nonfree" > instead > of the other way round. non-free stuff shouldn't be in main de

Re: Call for projects for Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > What about a project to port systemd to kfreebsd ? :) That is unlikely to be useful, upstream has explicitly said they are targeting Linux only. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-r

Re: potential MBF: first alternate depends not available in main

2011-03-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Carsten Hey wrote: >> But, anyway, I believe that the first depends of an alternate depends >> relation >> should be available in main and propose to file bugs about this. >> >> Do you agree this warrants a mass bug filing? I couldn't find this written >> out >>

Re: potential MBF: first alternate depends not available in main

2011-03-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > So does that mean a depends on "apache | apache2" is forbidden, as apache is > not in main? I guess so, unless apache2 provides apache. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists

Re: Disable ZeroConf: how to ?

2011-03-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > If you want to change debian to be ubuntu it would be the time to look > for another distribution that can be used on servers. (unfortunately I > do not know an alternative.) Ubuntu actually has better pro-active/defence-in-depth security th

Re: Advanced Startup/Shutdown with multilayered block-devices

2011-03-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Well, I'm curious to see whether other people find it worth, to > implement "all this". I always wondered why my ext3/ext4 over LVM over LUKS rootfs (default d-i encrypted system) gets complained about just before shutdown (by bot

Re: cdn.debian.net as a project service?

2011-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Peter Palfrader wrote: > (i.e. list of mirrors somewhere on ftp.d.o). We have had the mirrors list on each mirror for a long time: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian/README.mirrors.txt ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debi

Re: cdn.debian.net as a project service?

2011-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Paul Wise wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Peter Palfrader wrote: >> >> > (i.e. list of mirrors somewhere on ftp.d.o). >> >> We have had the mirrors list

Re: cdn.debian.net as a project service?

2011-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:46 PM, The Fungi wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 01:06:03PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> If one has or downloads a list of mirrors, what's a good way to >> choose the best one? Ping time? > > Package: netselect-apt > Description: speed tester for choosing a fast Debia

Re: cdn.debian.net as a project service?

2011-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > Another strange thing about apt-spy is that it picks a subset of mirrors > without an apparent rule.  It claims it uses > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt yet it ignores most (but > not all!) of non-country-primary ones.

Re: cdn.debian.net as a project service?

2011-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > Not nessecarily, it really depends. For example in Australia local > mirrors are much faster than US mirrors. And your ISPs mirrors are usually faster than other ISPs mirrors. Some ISPs give free access to their mirror; the mirror t

Re: cdn.debian.net as a project service?

2011-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Michael Vogt wrote: > There is a "mirror" method in apt since some time that is a bit of a > combined cdn/README.mirrors approach. Its not much used and probably > has some rough edges but should be a good starting point. > > The idea is that you have a sources.li

Re: Re: Mirror problems?

2011-03-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > Seeing how many mirrors are affected, either the apt change should be > reverted or the list of mirrors should be updated to pinpoint those that > are known to work correctly ; or both. What about this: apt downloads both Release/Release.gpg

Re: Mirror problems?

2011-03-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > don't even use Debian as there system. And then those that do use Debian > use stable usually (or even oldstable), meaning you have to put every > update inside there. Good luck, it's not something I want to do. I would have thought it woul

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Well, I have been doing this, for a LONG time, to preserve my sanity when > working as upstream or in a native auto-tooled package: > > 1. No spawn from autotooling allowed in the VCS.  EVER.  .gitignore it >   away at once.  A

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: > Would you consider the existence of autotools autogenerated files inside > an upstream source a valid reason to rebuild upstream source in a > get-orig-source target? I would consider autotools generated files (Makefile.in, configure, etc)

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: > Sorry, I was not precise.  I also regard Makefile.in and configure (and > files which are used by configure to run properly) as useful in an > upstream tarball.  However, files like config.log etc. should be cleaned > up. Agreed. That would

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: > I just accept your opinion that repackaging is not warranted and I did > not in the past - but I was never really sure whether this is really > reasonable.  I'm somehow missing *clear* rules when to rebuild the orig > tarball and when not.

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: > The problem is that the regenerated files are not identical to the > original files and you simply get a diff which finally makes different > Debian source packages depending how often you start the build process. You won't get a diff if yo

Re: Need for automatic USB stick backup package

2011-03-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: > Would such a package be useful? I personally wouldn't use that script for a number of reasons: It assumes that $HOME is /home/$USER It assumes that the sysadmin hasn't already mounted something on /mnt It mounts and backs up without

Re: Need for automatic USB stick backup package

2011-03-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: > On 22 March 2011 00:49, Paul Wise wrote: > >> The mount could trigger unknown kernel vulnerabilities in filesystem code > > The USB Stick would be automounted anyway. How is this different? Automounting is disabled o

Re: Needed input from Australian users and developers:; choosing timezones for Australia in D-I

2011-03-22 Thread Paul Wise
I agree with the other Australians in the thread; the east-coast timezones are currently all the same but might not be in the future so we shouldn't rely on them being the same and we should allow selection of Australia/Sydney vs Australia/Melbourne. I would suggest doing what Ubuntu do for timezo

Re: Release Candidate 2 of Debian Installer

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Wise
How about letting the person doing the installation write the labels if they want to use LABEL and use UUID by default. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@l

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:11 AM, wrote: > Speaking about new control fields, how about "Date:"? > > Imagine, "freshness dating available right there on the grocer's > shelf, in Packages.gz. No need for the consumer to jump through > additional hoops to find out." Which date would it contain? >

Re: Proposal of new control field: Date

2009-02-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM, wrote: > PW> Which date would it contain? > > The date the maintainer made the polishing touches on the .deb. We don't have that date. We do have: The date from the changelog/changes file. Depending on the workflow the maintainer uses, this could be when they

Re: Proposed release goal: fix debian/rules build-arch

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Charles Plessy (17/02/2009): >> maybe Build-Recommends could also solve this… > > Does "build reproducibility" mean something to you? The combination of the simultaneous need for Build-Recommends and build reproducibility will probably le

Re: Python related changes for unstable/squeeze

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Matthias Klose, 2009-02-16] >> Besides the "normal" pending update of the python version for the >> unstable distribution, there will be more changes around python >> packaging, including the introduction of python-3.x and addressing >> s

Re: Bug#515793: ITP: CGIT -- C-code Web Front-end to GIT

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Iulian Udrea wrote: > I'm still thinking of a way to get rid of git source and not affect the > rest. Get upstream git to stabilise libgit into a proper shared library. Please see #407722, which I set as blocking the ITP #515793. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debia

Re: Bug#516351: ITP: see -- lightweight Linux text file and man page viewer

2009-02-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Joop Stakenborg wrote: > * Package name: see mime-support already contains /usr/bin/see, so you'll probably need to rename it see-editor or something? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.de

Re: Packaging question

2009-02-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > 1) I prefer to have web based applications running in a virtual host > instead of poluting the /var/www folder with entries. Is it allowed to > create a package which installs application in a virtual host in Apache? Check out the draft

Re: Bug#516659: ITP: w3bfukk0r -- scan webservers for hidden directories (forced browsing)

2009-02-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > But what (besides web crawling) is the (legal) purpose of that? And why > does it need a word list? Presumably it is a useful tool as part of a security professional's penetration testing toolbox? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/Paul

Re: Is the FHS dead ?

2009-02-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Luke L wrote: > Something to think about: Shouldn't SQL databases and web servers, and > file servers, be under /srv/? /srv/www, /srv/mysql, /srv/smb, etc.? The bikeshed shall be coloured 'yes'. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: LXDE doesnt support Debian Menu

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > Is that a violation of a must directive and therefore a bug that will > need fixing ASAP?  AIUI packages that have a GUI are required to have > debian menu, but I'm not sure if the window manager / desktop has the > same requirement. The

Re: Is the FHS dead ?

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> >> Luke L writes: >> >>> Something to think about: Shouldn't SQL databases and web servers, and >>> file servers, be under /srv/? /srv/www, /srv/mysql, /srv/smb, etc.? >> >> The current FHS reserves /srv's name

Re: Upcoming Section changes in the archive

2009-02-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 27 février 2009 à 21:40 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : >> Select one of cli-mono or ecma-cli and please also get me a short >> description :) > > How about: > > cli-mono -- The Common Language Infrastructure, the Mono implement

Re: OSS-only applications

2009-03-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Quite a few packages support only OSS, not ALSA.  Nowadays there's quite > little probability that your sound board only has an OSS driver, and so > there is quite little probability that quite a few packages work out the > box. Is ALSA su

Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

2009-03-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: >> If the -dbg files were more like these sizes: > ... > >> I doubt there's be too much concern > > Remaining concerns: > > - each of these dbg packages requires manual modification to the source >  package (incl. adding the package to deb

Re: Pristine source from upstream VCS repository

2009-03-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Ben Finney wrote: >> See pristine-* for hints about things that can change between one >> environment and another. > > I don't know what ‘pristine-*’ refers to there. I get no result from > ‘apropos pristine’, so if you're referring to a command, I have no > corres

Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?

2009-03-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > With rpm there's no such problem, as a separate debug package is > created automatically. I just have to keep it somewhere. That is exactly the plan for debug.debian.net. IMO it needs to sidestep dh_strip though, since debhelper isn't manda

Re: Prefix level in Quilt patches (was: Support of new source packages in squeeze)

2009-03-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > How can I reliably inform the Debian packaging tools that my quilt > patches are in ‘patch -p0’ format? You don't want to use -p0 otherwise you'll get bugs from buxy about not supporting dpkg source package v3. I'm using this to generate my pa

Re: Prefix level in Quilt patches

2009-03-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Paul Wise writes: > >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Ben Finney >> wrote: >> >> > How can I reliably inform the Debian packaging tools that my quilt >> > patches are in ‘patch -p0’ format? >&g

Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > One of the new features announced in MoinMoin 1.7 is OpenID > authentication. Could this please be enabled on the Debian wiki? That would likely make it much harder to fix #385797 - Wiki does not have a license. I think once we've sorted tha

Re: DebianWiki migrated

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > I don't see how the use of a different authentication system > intersects with that bug at all. Can you elaborate what you think the > issue is? I'm making an uneducated guess that allowing editing by people we cannot contact will be bad for l

Re: removing unmaintained (unused?) X input drivers

2009-03-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Julien Cristau wrote: > the following X input drivers will be removed from the archive soon > unless someone steps up to maintain them (both upstream and in Debian). > If you use one of these, now is the time to make yourself known. Should debian-user and forums.

Re: Gratituous dependences among packages

2009-03-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Ana Guerrero wrote: > kde is a metapackage that includes _all_ KDE that is not related to > development. If you just want a functional KDE without games and related > stuff look at kde-core. Then you can install what you want else using the > modules > metapackag

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