Re: Extended descriptions size (was Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions)

2009-03-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > The extended description needs to be available to APT, not only via > packages.d.o. I agree with Neil William's comment in the other thread about removing long descriptions from the Packages files. I think the obvious place to put them i

Re: Extended descriptions size (was Re: RFC: Better formatting for long descriptions)

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > It's another instance of duplication - why retain the long description > in the Packages file while a translated version also exists from DDTP? > Probably better for the description to be removed from the Packages > file completely and the D

Re: Debian 4.0 and Lustre

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:38 AM, wrote: > I would like to know if there is any package of debian 4.0 and Lustre. >  This will be the ultimate. lustre appears to be only available in Debian 5.0 (lenny) and later, you might want to upgrade to lenny instead of continuing to use etch. There is als

Re: Re: Debian 4.0 and Lustre

2009-03-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:52 PM, wrote: > I prefer Debian 4.0 because I feel it is more stable than 5.0. Am I right? I am unable to detect any difference in stability between etch & lenny for my use-cases. There is more useful software available for lenny though and it will be security-support

Re: realtime kernel for Debian (was: Please Improve Debian for Multimedia Production)

2009-03-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Grammostola Rosea wrote: > Mmh this is interesting, cause there is an realtime kernel available in the > ubuntu hardy repo, but not in Debian yet. Would be nice if there was one > which users could install. But I'm not an rt-kernel expert at all, so maybe > I shou

Re: [renamed] Debian crda?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > Last time I poked them it seemed it was not easy to figure out how to > deal with, if at all, the optional but recommended RSA signature stuff > [1] with the DFSG. > > [1] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Regulatory#RSADigitalSig

Re: #520646: binNMU oprofile

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Adeodato Simó wrote: > I’m told libbfd.so is a private/internal library of binutils that should > not be dynamically linked against. A static version exists (libbfd.a), > and packages should be using that AFAIK. > > Cc'ing -devel in case there’s a reason it should

Re: [renamed] Debian crda?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Kel Modderman wrote: > The DFSG seems to suggest that the source code to the regulatory database > should be modifiable and the derived work distributed under the same license. It is my understanding that: Debian probably won't need to build the regdb from sourc

Re: [renamed] Debian crda?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > When we do, just adding a second public key to the CRDA  pubkeys dir > and using the corresponding private key (from outside the package) > during the build process of wireless-regdb would be just fine. This > would mean the mainta

Re: [renamed] Debian crda?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: >> Brainwave: no need to add a second public key to CRDA itself, the >> wireless-regdb could install the public key corresponding to the >> private key it was built with. > > Can you elaborate on what you mean? Do you mean for wireless-reg

Re: New quilt source format

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > Is there any information on how the typical package is supposed to use this > new format, See the dpkg-source manual page and this wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0 > (I'm a little confused on this) is it even in pla

Re: NEW processing

2009-03-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Changwoo Ryu wrote: > I suggest just to let those buggy packages in, and to file bugs to the > BTS. Such big problems always happen even with no NEW check involved and > the ftpmasters team can't prevent all of them anyway. Such problems > should be fixed, but why

Re: Suggestions about apt-spy

2009-03-28 Thread Paul Wise
2009/3/28 Stefano Canepa : > Where is a the right place to copy the mirror list? Perhaps a static copy in /usr/share/apt-spy and the dynamically downloaded version at /var/cache/apt-spy/ ? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.de

Re: [Soc-coordination] Official Debian AWS EC2 AMIs?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Gustavo Franco wrote: > Agreed and please don't forget Eucalyptus[0]. > > [0] = http://eucalyptus.cs.ucsb.edu/ Ubuntu already packaged that so it might be worth building on their work. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: demoting a dependency

2009-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Is there a more elegant way to do this? Not sure if it would work with your case, but xchat used this to demote plugin dependencies to recommends: dh_shlibdeps -a -u'-dDepends debian/xchat/usr/bin/xchat -dRecommends' -- bye, pabs http://w

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Afaik, Ubuntu is the only Linux distro which supports and uses tmpfs by > default. The OpenEmbedded distros do this too, I've especially seen that the ones associated with OpenMoko do that. In addition the pkg-fso folk's Debian for OpenMok

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Florian Lohoff writes: >> On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 11:40:57PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Interesting - The unix way IMHO was that /tmp looses content on reboot >> while /var/tmp did not. This had been the case for commercial Unices for >> a

Re: New architectures

2009-04-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote: > How packages that run on Linux only should handle those new architectures? Same as for stuff that only runs on i386; port them to kFreeBSD or restrict them to linux architectures and add them to P-a-s. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.or

"Team uploads"

2009-04-05 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all, In Debian we have several teams working on maintaining large numbers of packages (pkg-games, pkg-perl, pkg-gnome for example). I proposed[1] to silence the lintian NMU warnings in the case of "team uploads"; where the person doing the upload is a member of the team in Maintainers but is no

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Romain Beauxis wrote: > I also use lilo for /boot on LVM and I also clearly remember that was the > major reason for the previous debate about the removal of lilo. Grub2 in lenny and later contains an lvm module: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/lvm.mod Has anyone who uses

Bug#522753: ITP: primrose -- compelling tile-placement puzzle game

2009-04-06 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Wise X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel-ga...@lists.debian.org * Package name: primrose Version : 5 Upstream Author : Jason Rohrer * URL : http://primrose.sf.net * License : None (Public Domain) Programming Lang: C++, PHP

Re: Improvements to ‘debian/watch’for fetching f rom VCS

2009-04-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >        What am I missing? One case I can think of; it is (possibly) common for sponsors to check that the result from get-orig-source matches the contents of the tarball uploaded to mentors by the sponsee. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debi

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > as grub was not really maintained. Also grub2 doesn't seems so fast in > development. > I think these kind of project have difficult to maintain motivated > maintainer. I would really love to own a computer that used coreboot, Linux a

Bug#524565: ITP: clamav-unofficial-sigs -- update script for 3rd-party clamav signatures

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Wise X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, pkg-clamav-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org * Package name: clamav-unofficial-sigs Version : 2.7.1 Upstream Author : Bill Landry * URL : http://www.inetmsg.com/pub/ * License

Bug#524846: ITP: between -- game about consciousness and isolation

2009-04-20 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Wise X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel-ga...@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: between Version : 5 Upstream Author : Jason Rohrer * URL : http://www.esquire.com/features/best-and-brightest-2008

Re: Linux-libre for Debian Lenny

2009-04-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:36 PM, maximilian attems wrote: > no point in posting that to devel announce. Agreed. > this work is pointless Only if you think FSF-free is pointless, obviously that isn't everyone. > if you want a working and dfsg free converging linux-2.6 use our sid packages. > w

Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

2009-04-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Bradley Smith wrote: > As some of you may be aware, myself and a few others are working towards > an AVR32 port of Debian, which is now making good progress. One problem > we've come across is since AVR32 is such a new architecture, a fair few > packages have conf

Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

2009-04-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > It unfortunately wouldn't work for the same reason config.{guess,sub} > updates don't work, and more. It would need to be incorporated upstream, > and all debian sources using config.{guess,sub} should be updated to > these newer versions. Tha

Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

2009-04-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > instead.  $* doesn't quote its arguments, and the above works around a > portability problem with $@ (see the Autoconf manual). Thanks, added. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...

Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

2009-04-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Gabor Gombas wrote: > Hmm, wouldn't it be better to look for the newest version instead of > "first one that's newer"? The above would work on a buildd where there is > nothing in $HOME or under /usr/local, but could break on user's machines > if they have a scrip

Re: [Is there a lawyer in the room?] JPEG-LS license issue

2009-04-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > What I do not understand is implementation such as CharLS, which declare: ... > Ref: http://charls.codeplex.com/ On an unrelated note, please do not package this until upstream fixes the security issues that are mentioned on the website

Re: Outdated config.{sub,guess} package list

2009-04-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Speaking of which, where can one read more about that port? Are there > build logs available (one might want to ease your task and keep an eye > on them for some given packages at least)? http://avr32.debian.net/ http://ftp-avr32.debian.n

Re: Outdated config.{sub,guess} package list

2009-04-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Like lintian, your list falsely includes packages that use cdbs to build, > which automatically updates config.{sub,guess}. There doesn't seem to be a bug on lintian about this, please file one. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/Pa

Re: AVR32 port - config.{sub,guess} bug filing

2009-04-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > Good point, how about this? Sent this patch upstream, will see what they say. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe&q

Re: Misc developer news (#15)

2009-05-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, David Paleino wrote: > Also, seems like lists.alioth.debian.org doesn't have the same functionality. > Is there any plan for this? Due to the way pipermail works, removing messages from the archives would break all the URLs. Options for working around this might b

Re: "Debian is switching to EGLIBC"

2009-05-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Michael Prokop wrote: > No. Though I think that for essential packages like libc it could be > worth a public discussion. In this case there wouldn't be any point of discussing it, I predict the discussion would simply be "yes", "AOL", "+1", "do it already", "why

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Harald Braumann wrote: > I never talked about Exim. I was just opposing the proposition, that > some esoteric mailer like nullsmtp or esmtp will become the default in > Debian. I find the notion of a "default MTA" to be silly. Most desktops or laptops or cellphone

Re: Environment variables, debian/rules and dpkg-buildpackage

2009-05-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Debuild already creates a build log. I think it would be nice to > include that file in the changes file and have DAK forward it to > buildd.debian.org for archival. git-buildpackage, svn-buildpackage, > ... or even dpkg-buildpackage

Re: [renamed] Debian crda?

2009-05-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Kel Modderman wrote: > (Dropped the CC to linux-wireless as it rejected my other attempt to send > message claiming it was part HTML/Spam. Apologies if you get two copies.) Maybe you should send plain text email instead? > I would rather the build process fail i

Re: @debian.org out of working?

2009-05-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM, LI Daobing wrote: > sounds many f...@debian.org mail address is out of working (including mine). Same here, however it looks like it is fixed now (at least for p...@debian.org). -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: Debian source code search engine

2009-05-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Peter De Wachter wrote: > The software used is OpenGrok, originally developed at > Sun for OpenSolaris (http://opensolaris.org/os/project/opengrok). It's > quite nice, although a bit slow with this amount of source code. Anyone know if there is or will be a fosso

Re: debian and lilypond 2.12

2009-05-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:44 AM, rosea grammostola wrote: > Could someone fix Lilypond in Debian. There are also some people busy with > packaging Frescobaldi for Debian, but it isn't possible to upload it without > having Lilypond fixed and updated to the recent stable version. It looks like li

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd porter box strauss.debian.net available

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote: > I think it would be useful to have a new package with the ssh public key > fingerprints of all accessible debian machines, possibly signed by some DSA > member (to detect local tampering). It would ease a trust path from the user > to the m

Re: Debtags localisation and font tags proposal

2009-05-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Enrico Zini wrote: > To have a software that generate a list of suitable fonts for a user > would also require something more specific than tags. An example that > Arne made was of a font which contains latin and cyrilic characters, but > misses the special latin

stopped daemons starting again during upgrade

2009-05-31 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all, I recently did an upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I did it in single user mode / runlevel 1 (with all the daemons stopped). I noted that during the upgrade various daemons were started again. IMO it is reasonable to expect that stopped daemons stay stopped during an upgrade, expecially in r

Re: Vcs-Svn field and trunk

2009-05-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote: > Recently I've ran into a few cases were doing debcheckout of a package using > svn downloads the whole thing: tags, branches and trunk.  I would expect > debcheckout to give me just the HEAD of development. What should be the sane > behavior

Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:09 AM, John Goerzen wrote: > I'm CCing this to Debian-devel because I think it speaks to a larger > issue. > > I just downloaded a PDF, and tried to copy and paste a bit of text > from it.  I used the selection tool, and Okular offered to speak it to > me, but said "Copy

Re: Bug#531450: ITP: gmameui -- front-end for the arcade games emulator MAME

2009-06-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Loïc Martin wrote: > Christian Marillat wrote: >> Loïc Martin writes: >>> * License         : GPL2+ >> This package should go in contrib because he depends on non-free >> packages (mame-*). >> > > Right, since it depends on MAME (SDLMAME, XMAME - AFAIK only XMAME i

Re: Removal of fc-cache calls in postinsts

2009-06-13 Thread Paul Wise
2009/6/14 Josselin Mouette : > Re-running fc-cache used to be done by defoma, but people kept adding > fc-cache calls manually.  They turned out to have been right, since > defoma support was ripped out of fontconfig a while ago. It was? I still see this file in the fontconfig package (2.6.0-3):

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > The dh_make template for debian/copyright induces many developers to put their > packaging work under the GPL, and I have already seen packages whose license > is > otherwise BSD-ish with such patches. If the maintainer suddenly goes MIA an

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Paul Wise
2009/6/19 Josselin Mouette : > It’s already better, but for more readability, would it be possible to > have a registered list of bug tracking aliases? For example: >        Bug-Debian: #12345 >        Bug-Ubuntu: #2356 >        Bug-GNOME: #5671 Personally I'd prefer URLs (for all bugs, including

Re: [Debconf-discuss] using OpenPGP notations to indicate keysigning practices [was: Re: GPG keysigning?]

2009-06-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > I think that misses a critical point; i want to use my OpenPGP key for a > variety of purposes both in and out of debian.  I consider it a baseline > tool for managing my digital identity.  While i'm happy to obey > debian-specific guid

Re: Search for porterbox machines on the command line

2014-06-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 7:54 AM, James McCoy wrote: > Paul Wise requested a much more featureful script in #469263. I implemented a script too and blogged about it as well as paravoid's script: http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/log/2011/11/02/convenient-login-to-porterboxen/ Ultimately a

Re: HTTPS everywhere!

2014-06-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Simon McVittie wrote: > Expanding on that a little... That is a great non-technical summary of how bad the situation with SSL and browser implementations is, thank you! -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-req

Unicode 7.0 released - some packages contain outdated embedded data copies

2014-06-18 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all, Unicode 7.0 was recently released. I discovered some source packages contain outdated copies of various Unicode data files. At minimum, the following packages embed part of the Unicode data (UnicodeData.txt). There are probably many more embedding different parts of the Unicode data, ren

Re: Unicode 7.0 released - some packages contain outdated embedded data copies

2014-06-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Make it generic, instead. You could just automatize the table update > through a script, and allow it to either fetch the data over the network > using curl/wget/whatever (default), or to get the data from a local file. That w

Re: Unicode 7.0 released - some packages contain outdated embedded data copies

2014-06-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Alastair McKinstry wrote: > I updated unicode-data already to 7.0, so the data is present and > packaged in Debian > so there is no need to fetch via curl, etc. > Build-Dep on unicode-data and then updates should simply be a binNMU ? That is fine for Debian but u

Re: Unicode 7.0 released - some packages contain outdated embedded data copies

2014-06-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > I'd have to study it a little more, but I'm not sure this actually makes > sense for a package like ICU whose sole purpose in life is handling > Unicode. Could you explain in more detail, I'm not following your thought process here? How do

Re: Unicode 7.0 released - some packages contain outdated embedded data copies

2014-06-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > It’s a bit more than a table. Also, the process involves some > unfree-for-a-BSD (GNU GPL) code that does part of the transformation. > For jupp, I have to do other parts by hand, including review… Could you explain in more detail? Perhap

Re: llvm-defaults vs update alternatives

2014-06-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > Any opinions on the subject? There is already the CC (and CXX etc) environment variable to select the compiler, they should use that. Build systems that ignore those environment variables are broken and need to be fixed. -- bye, pabs

Re: Nonfree Artifacts

2014-06-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Andrew Schurman wrote: > I'm looking into leveraging or creating a tool which can identify > non-free artifacts that should be removed as part of a debian package. You should clarify what you mean by non-free in this situation; * artefacts under licenses that pr

Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-06-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Alastair McKinstry wrote: > udev itself is disabled in scripts as it keeps crashing > on my hardware. (Old powerpc server). Which bug number is this? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.

Re: Q: best strategy/tool to select a mirror (explicitly not via proxies like http.debian.net)

2014-06-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > Thanks in advance for the ideas/feedback If it were me, I would upload only to ftp.d.o and use http.d.n but I guess these packages can't go into the Debian archive? If not maybe you could use mirrorbrain or use the code behind http.d.n.

Re: Q: best strategy/tool to select a mirror (explicitly not via proxies like http.debian.net)

2014-06-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > almost all (...) are in Debian archive ;) Good to hear :) > we are providing backport builds Are you doing that in addition to or instead of providing official backports in the wheezy-backports suite? http://backports.debian.org/Cont

Re: Search for porterbox machines on the command line

2014-07-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Perhaps some of this could be put into devscripts ? Just as ick, DNS is the place for service aliases. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Re: Search for porterbox machines on the command line

2014-07-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > Might have been implemented for the last 5+ years too. A clarification: The Debian sysadmins have had SSHFP records in DNS (and DNSSEC) for a long time. In addition you can get the full list of SSH public keys for Debian machines: sftp:

Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Guillem Jover wrote: > HSTS protects mostly from MITM (except for first connection), but I'm > not sure if DSA is planning to add it. HSTS is a standard part of HTTPS setup on machines run by DSA, so it is very likely they will. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian

Re: How Debian should handle users requests?

2014-07-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > I'd recommend that reportbug(-ng) provide a clear message when creating > a bug, just like some other packages do it (evolution to name my > preferred mail client). This will then filter more this kind of reports. Please file bugs about i

Re: Bug#755285: marked as done (general: Black screen on resume after suspend)

2014-07-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > Considering the language is English, it would be a pity if the reader > made this mistake. Let's assume a modicum of 'common sense' at least. With an international project like Debian, we can't assume that English is everyone's first langu

Re: Bug#755382: ITP: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-cn -- “Source Han Sans CN” A sans-serif Pan-CJK font family (CN subset) that is offered in seven weights

2014-07-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 3:59 PM, LIU Dongyuan wrote: > * Package name: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-cn Due to the need for Adobe's ADFKO, this will have to go to contrib. IIRC ADFKO will become open source at some point and the font could move to main then. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.or

Re: Bug#755385: ITP: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-jp -- “Source Han Sans JP” A sans-serif Pan-CJK font family (JP subset) that is offered in seven weights

2014-07-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 4:13 PM, LIU Dongyuan wrote: > * Package name: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-jp Due to the need for Adobe's ADFKO, this will have to go to contrib. IIRC ADFKO will become open source at some point and the font could move to main then. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.or

Re: Bug#755386: ITP: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-kr -- “Source Han Sans KR” A sans-serif Pan-CJK font family (KR subset) that is offered in seven weights

2014-07-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 4:16 PM, LIU Dongyuan wrote: > * Package name: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-kr Due to the need for Adobe's ADFKO, this will have to go to contrib. IIRC ADFKO will become open source at some point and the font could move to main then. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.o

Re: How Debian should handle users requests?

2014-07-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 07:50:17AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> I think that would probably just add more noise to debian-devel. > > Maybe "general" bugs should go to debian-user instead? That would be change

Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Yes it does. No... > I just tried chromium and iceweasel on this laptop (running sid, a few > days out of date). Both will turn "http://www.debian.org"; into > "https://www.debian.org"; due to HSTS. This works whether I enter the > "http:

Re: myth(?): places in the world where https is illegal? Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > The current problem with HTTPS is that it bundles encryption with > authenticity. > This needs to be unbundled[1]. My opinion is that even a transparent > opportunistic encryption (f.e. like DANE implementation in postfix) > would improve the o

Re: Bug#755382: ITP: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-cn -- “Source Han Sans CN” A sans-serif Pan-CJK font family (CN subset) that is offered in seven weights

2014-07-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 6:09 AM, James Cloos wrote: >>>>>> "PW" == Paul Wise writes: > >>> * Package name: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-cn > > PW> Due to the need for Adobe's ADFKO, this will have to go to contrib. > PW> IIRC ADFKO w

Re: Bug#755382: ITP: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-cn -- “Source Han Sans CN” A sans-serif Pan-CJK font family (CN subset) that is offered in seven weights

2014-07-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > I would be happy to be proven wrong on this; feel free to package it > for main if fontforge can take the place of all the commands mentioned > in the upstream build system. The way to prove that would be to only > ship the non-OTF

Re: How Debian should handle users requests?

2014-07-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > As a more radical suggestion, perhaps it should divert the usual > output email to debian-user ? Probably we should ask the inhabitants > of debian-user what they think of this idea... Better to delete the general/base/cdrom/project pseudo-pa

Re: How Debian should handle users requests?

2014-07-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > "general" and "project" are maybe useful though.. general only receives misguided user support requests, not useful. project doesn't receive new reports; not useful. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Bug#756172: ITP: ssh-cron -- cron-like job scheduler than handles ssh key passphrases

2014-07-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > It is possible to restrict keys in .ssh/authorized_keys so that they are > only allowed to run specific commands, see the 'command="command"' bit in > man:sshd(8). One probably wants to combine this with no-port-forwarding > and similar op

Re: First steps towards source-only uploads

2014-08-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:38 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Ansgar Burchardt [2014-08-01 09:37 +0200]: >> * The source package includes a Package-List field that also has >>an arch=* column. dpkg (>= 1.17.7) will include this. > > Can we read up more on this somewhere? It is the def

Re: Bug#756521: ITP: kadeploy -- Scalable, efficient and reliable cluster provisioning solution

2014-08-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > FAI and Kickstart rely on an installation process (even if not > debian-installer's): packages are extracted, installed and configured. > Kadeploy and CloneZilla rely on cloning: you install and configure one > system first, then create an i

Re: Bug#756521: ITP: kadeploy -- Scalable, efficient and reliable cluster provisioning solution

2014-08-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > A straightforward way is exemplified by the case of SSH, where the server keys > are regenerated if they are absent. It then only takes to delete the keys > when > preparing images to avoid the problem of duplicated IDs or privacy leaks. I

Re: RFH: testing util-linux/experimental

2014-08-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > One of the notes there includes mentioning that losetup has completely > dropped support for encryption. This also means that the Debian-specific > patch to extend this functionality has been dropped[HASHPATCH]. This > mean that the moun

Re: Time to drop debcheck on optional/extra and arch:all?

2014-08-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > Do we care about any distinction between optional and extra any longer? I would say no we don't and suggest these steps: Remove it from policy: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-priorities Get dak to override all

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Hum... Well, to me, what's important is that the code gets > peer-reviewed. ... by both humans and by automatically by computers; compiler warnings, static analysis tools, fuzz testers etc. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: bits from the DPL -- mid-April to mid-August 2014

2014-08-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > Does this list of expenses mean that you now have a good overview of > Debian's cash flow? In April, I understood that this was a major > outstanding problem. I'm happy to see that we are spending Debian money on > useful sprints and event

Re: Two-minute(!)-survey on motivation and free time contribution of open source developers

2014-08-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Stefan Kullack wrote: > It would be fantastic if you could spend two minutes on three simple > questions! > > Here is the link to the survey: https://de.surveymonkey.com/s/MFKXYLP You might get more feedback if you weren't using a proprietary SaaSS (service as a

Re: Raising priority of Debian packages

2014-08-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > The problem that set off this entire discussion is the question of whether > we want to raise the priority of perl, perl-modules, and > init-system-helpers to important to match rsyslog, move the Perl modules > used by init-system-helpers to p

Re: Bug#760167: ITP: cligh -- Command-line interface to GitHub

2014-09-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > PS. Is it any tool to generate ITP bug from debian/ directory? No, because ITPs are meant to be filed *before* the debian/ directory exists. > Source package is already available at github: kaction/deb-cligh. This should have been done aft

Re: Bug#760167: ITP: cligh -- Command-line interface to GitHub

2014-09-06 Thread Paul Wise
It was pointed out off-list that my mail could be considered harsh. If so I apologise for this, I certainly didn't intend that. On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 13:56 +0400, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > My reason was that I am noob, and it takes undefined amount of time for > me to find out how to package new ki

Re: Bug#758234: Raising priority of Debian packages

2014-09-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > We should probably also monitor package conflicts. We made a big fuss about > node vs nodejs (and rightly so); but I bet that we have lots of other > package pairs in the archive that can't be co-installed for no good reason. We have this alread

Re: Detecting more undeclared conflicts (was: Re: Bug#758234: Raising priority of Debian packages)

2014-09-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote: > would it make sense to extend this test and not only check whether packages > that share a file listed in Contents.gz can be co-installed but also packages > which access/change/create the same files in their pre/post-install maintainer > s

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Rebecca Palmer wrote: >> Someone already >> proposed, in the wiki, to add "Games". I like the idea a lot, and it >> perfectly makes sense to select all games at once. That was me. We don't yet have a games-all metapackage in the games blend, games-finest is probabl

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced > users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and > there's no obvious way to know what will happen (other than looking at > the package source of

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Markus Koschany wrote: > Creating a games-all metapackage would be easily doable As someone who has been trying to maintain a system (rather than metapackage) that is basically that (plus a bunch of games removed from Debian), I don't think it is actually that eas

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Philipp Kern wrote: > It should likely be raised to priority=standard, which would make it part of > the "standard system utilities" task. smartctl is relatively important for > problem diagnosis with disk drives. I don't think it is necessary everywhere: Various

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Philipp Kern wrote: > I guess I would want to see it installed on all non-chroot installs, hence > maybe hw-detect makes more sense. If there's a SCSI/ATA disk drive, install > smartmontools. Sounds good to me. You also need smart-notifier on desktops where the d

Re: Seeking help with OpenVPN scripts and systemd

2014-09-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > I think the better way how to convert openvpn to systemd would be: > > to convert all AUTOSTART= VPNs to openvpn@ enabled instances and all > other to disabled openvpn@ instances at upgrade time. I guess there > might be a need to some more sub

Bug#761348: ftp.debian.org: need machine-readable metadata about suites & repositories

2014-09-13 Thread Paul Wise
Package: ftp.debian.org Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Various places in Debian infrastructure (QA especially) hard-code aspects of the Debian archive (suite, code, component, arch names etc). This is a problem because after new suites or architectures are added, we

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