Re: alioth is down (again)

2012-01-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: > Like ldapsearch(1)?  That kind of already exists... More like a frontend to ldapsearch that doesn't require people to know about LDAP, about the Debian schema, nor ldapsearch itself. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To U

Re: lack of replacement for linux-vserver

2012-01-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > Just to be clear, 'that work' is not just a matter of forwarding > messages back and forward between the Debian BTS and the Linux-VServer > developers.  Unless the VServer project continues to support whichever > version we use in a stable rel

Re: PHP 5.4 transition in unstable

2012-02-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > this is just a heads up that we will upload php version 5.4 into > unstable very soon.  It is currently in RC phase and we spoke to PHP > upstream and both parties think this is a good idea to iron out more > bugs for upstream and allow us to ha

severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

2012-02-04 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all, If I notice that software in Debian is ignoring TMP/TMPDIR (since I use libpam-tmpdir), what severity should I file the resulting bugs at? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: os-prober changes

2012-02-07 Thread Paul Wise
[CCing you since I'm not sure you are subscribed] On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Андрей Гаврилин wrote: > I have changed Linux detection and I have added *BSD detection. We > will use It for Mandriva/ROSA. Please report a bug against the os-prober package: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

Re: history transparency

2012-02-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Philip Ashmore wrote: > I think Debian needs a way to be able to pick a point in history and obtain > at least the versions + patches of all the source packages that would have > been installed / available to reproduce the Debian system running on the > users machin

Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

2012-02-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > If I notice that software in Debian is ignoring TMP/TMPDIR (since I use > libpam-tmpdir), what severity should I file the resulting bugs at? I'll file them at wishlist as suggested by the second mail in this thread. This thread has

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > Of course, it's source packages that matter, can't check them that easily. > Could someone who has all the sources downloaded and unpacked check?  My box > that has them decided to not heed wake-on-lan. Just look at the Contents-source files

Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

2012-02-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote: > If you (or the maintainer) review the code or analyse the program's > behaviour and it is using *fixed* (i.e. not random) filenames for the > temporary files or for the directories they are created in (/tmp or > /var/tmp), you mig

Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 13, Ian Jackson wrote: > >> The rule would be that if: >>   * A file is being opened in a sticky directory >>   * The file is going to be created by this operation >>   * O_EXCL was not specified >> then the syscall fails with EPERM. >

Re: severity for bugs in ignoring TMP/TMPDIR?

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: > If $TMPDIR is not set, /tmp is a reasonable default, so I'd expect a *lot* > of matches for '/tmp' in programs with correct behaviour. I get the impression that directly hardcoding /tmp/ usually indicates that safe temporary file/dir function

Re: Source package names for R libraries (and Perl, Python, Java, …).

2012-02-15 Thread Paul Wise
How about a lintian complaint at info/pedantic level called source-package-name-doesnt-match-binary-package that triggers on single-binary source packages and where the binary name doesnt look like a versioned library package? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: Source package names for R libraries (and Perl, Python, Java, …).

2012-02-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > Please don't. There are developers (like me) who prefer source package > names to be as close as possible to upstream's name. As a pedantic/info level warning, you are of course free to ignore it. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/Pau

Re: nm.debian.org web site not responding

2012-02-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:43 PM, olivier sallou wrote: > the web site > > https://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php > > has a forbidden access error for a few days. There were some security issues so it is down until they are fixed. > Do you know who we should contact ? Normally the #debian-newmaint IRC

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > They also don't get turned off very often, but they do get rebooted.  It > should be possible to avoid that long delay by using kexec, though I've > never looked into how well that works in Debian. I tried that today with my laptop running

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Russell Coker wrote: > This problem is being addressed to some extent.  Modern web browsers offer to > reopen all previous windows and tabs when restarted.  IMHO a desktop > environment would ideally be able to open everything again such that a reboot > wouldn't be

Re: New Free Software for 2D Animation

2012-02-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Nandakumar wrote: > The Chalanam 2D Animation Studio > https://launchpad.net/chalanam/ There doesn't appear to be any source code repository or tarballs. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debi

Re: user removal in postrm

2012-02-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621833 and its merged > bugs are a discussion about changing or setting the policy on this. > The consensus is that packages should never remove the users they > create. I tend to think it sh

Re: Bug#661565: ITP: nyancat -- Terminal-based Pop Tart Cat animation

2012-02-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > if a couple of gag programs can not upgraded.  Couldn't we keep a place in our > namespace and our mirrors for such programs, in a section where best effort is > the rule ?  I do understand it is not that easy; security comes to mind > immed

Re: Bug#661565: ITP: nyancat -- Terminal-based Pop Tart Cat animation

2012-02-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Jonathan McCrohan wrote: > I certainly don't plan on uploading and abandoning this package, but > given the high level of opposition to this ITP, guess there is little > point pursuing it. I would suggest joining the Debian games team, we might sponsor this, since

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

2012-02-29 Thread Paul Wise
Personally I think this is completely the wrong approach to take for compiler hardening flags. The flags should be enabled by default in upstream GCC and disabled by upstream software where they result in problems. The compiler hardening flags have been tested over N years by RHEL, Fedora, Ubuntu,

Re: Split arch:all contents to Contents-all.gz

2012-03-03 Thread Paul Wise
Sounds like a win to me. The tools that might need changing: debmirror apt-file UDD collab-qa/filecontents/*-contents.py -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas..

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > Out of curiousity, what codecs do you miss in the official debian packages? The Voxware decoder is the one codec I've encountered that doesn't work in Debian. AFAICT there is no free decoder for it and the Windows DLL from w32-codecs is n

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Andres Mejia wrote: > MDL should be supported by libmodplug, which gstreamer uses. The symptoms I am seeing are that Rhythmbox says "The MIME type of the file could not be identified". I guess I need to file a bug against file since file --mime-type returns applica

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Miles Bader wrote: > Er ... MP3 encoding ? > > [Is that available in debian-official now?] lame is in squeeze-backports and later: http://packages.debian.org/lame -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Now, is anyone against publishing the list of debian.net entries and the > entry <-> registrant association (provided the above conditions are > met)? That is already published in DNS: pabs@chianamo ~ $ dig -t txt mentors.debian.net | g

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > It's not *always* published. > Try with ipv6 or mozilla.debian.net for example. > > Making this as a rule seems relevant and a good idea to me. > It'd be even better if we could publish a list instead of only > an individual if we want to (bu

Re: libidn re-license

2012-03-06 Thread Paul Wise
I would suggest asking the FSF licensing folks and debian-legal. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAKTj

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I've just seen an (ugly) instance of many quilt patches in > debian/patches that are patching things inside the debian/ folder. I am > wondering if it would be wise to forbid this entirely, and write about > it in the policy (maybe it is ther

Re: debconf13

2012-03-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:39 PM, vangelis wrote: > I'll gonna need all of your experience for debconf12 *if*, as i hope > debconf13 will be in Greece and also the knowledge about hotels, conference > halls, etc this great event needs to be successful. > Please contact me if debian leadership decid

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > (There's a third issue, of course, which is whose environment the daemon > should be inheriting -- the sanitised environment of init, or the > environment of the shell of whoever is running "/etc/init.d/foo start" > or whatever.) That i

Re: [Composer] Creating a music jingle for Debian -> Musical

2012-03-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Adrien Poupin wrote: > As a composer I would like to help if possible. Apparently there is no > login-jingle for Debian, and if I would be pleased to help providing one. > This could build a auditive identity for this distribution... > > Where should I post the inf

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Timo Weingärtner wrote: > Why do people always forget that there is service(8)? I personally got used to using /etc/init.d/foo before service existed. So its not that people forget about service, but that they never learnt about it. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.deb

Re: Organizing a BSP in Shanghai: any advice?

2012-03-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I am seriously thinking about organizing a bug squashing party in > Shanghai. We have already a very nice place to do it (people squared > already agreed for it, it's in the city center), large enough, with a > decent internet connection. >

Re: Time to remove 32/64-bit variants of GMP?

2012-03-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > In the short term this isn't possible, because there's no sparc64 > architecture specified or supported in the archive.  So I'd say it's > entirely up to you as the maintainer whether to support lib64gmp10, or if > you'd rather nudge folks

Re: usefulness of ITPs (Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over)

2012-04-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > But are they always usefull? Does a package that is ready for upload > already need an ITP? That is the question. The point of an ITP is that it should be sent before starting the packaging. If the package is already done then ... wel

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd

2012-04-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > I had problems with my laptop also waking up mysteriously randomly on > unknown events and I managed to solve it just disabling all wakeup > events except PBTN That sounds like an hack. Wouldn't it be better to log the resume r

Re: Bugs for packages which don't exist anymore / missing maintainer

2012-04-01 Thread Paul Wise
Ideally the BTS would have a better way (probably involving the version trees) to associate these bugs with source and or binary packages still in the archive. Where it couldn't do that the usual auto-archiving (but not closing since the package could be reintroduced) would be appropriate. This wou

Re: state of security hardening build flag efforts

2012-04-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > This is very exciting! It was only a short time ago when just a handful > of packages were building with hardening options. Now we're almost to 20% > on stack-protector. :) Thank you everyone for your great work! Very nice, thanks for pushing it!

Re: state of security hardening build flag efforts

2012-04-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Kees Cook wrote: > Ah-ha, yes. I will do that. :) Thanks > I haven't attempted to push these things to upstream yet, but I still > think it would be a great idea. > ... Thanks for the info! I hope someone manages to do this in the next decade. -- bye, pabs htt

Re: thoughts on using multi-arch based cross-building

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:34 PM, peter green wrote: > I've been attempting to use multi-arch for cross-building packages for > raspbian (a debian derivative I am working on for armv6 hardfloat) and run > into a few things which I thought i'd share and/or ask about. I'd like to see cross-toolchai

Re: thoughts on using multi-arch based cross-building

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Wookey wrote: > It's possible, but some more is still needed to have them built by the > normal buildds. Wanna-build needs support for cross-arch dependencies; > that's not been done yet. Splitting (multiarching) libc++-dev is also > needed to build the g++ cross-co

Re: Question about debian experimental.

2012-10-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > I have a question. Since maintainers of LXDE are extremely busy last Perhaps you would like to join the LXDE package maintainers team and help them out? They don't appear to be using the pkg-lxde group on alioth though, so best con

Re: (seemingly) declinging bug report numbers

2012-10-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Well but it's up to interpretation, whether that wouldn't be a worrying > sign, too. I mean that bugs are fixed rather via Ubuntu. Where bugs are reported doesn't matter, as long as they get fixed. Personally I look at the bug tra

Re: (seemingly) declinging bug report numbers

2012-10-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Simon Josefsson wrote: > I can confirm the trend for a couple of organisations. The primary > reason that I identified was the retirement of security support for > Lenny and that Lenny packages are removed from many Debian mirrors which > made it difficult to use

Re: Popularity of bzr-builddeb and dh-make

2012-10-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:35 AM, Benjamin Drung wrote: > A poll is a good idea. Can you recommend a site that allows setting up a > poll? The Debian secretary was at one point going to setup devotee for this sort of thing, don't think that ever happened though. If you want some FSAAS (free-softw

Re: Debian should move away from MD5 (and at best also from SHA1) (in secure APT and friends)

2012-10-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > I further looked around: > e.g. the Release file seems to only use MD5 not so good :( Wrong, the Release file has had all 3 since sarge. woody had MD5 & SHA-1. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Debian should move away from MD5 (and at best also from SHA1) (in secure APT and friends)

2012-10-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Sources files seems to use MD5, SHA1 and SHA256... though MD5 seems to > have a "special status" (Files vs. Checksums-). > That might be just historic, though. > > Similarly the Packages files... MD5/SHA1/SHA256... Only since whee

Re: Debian should move away from MD5 (and at best also from SHA1) (in secure APT and friends)

2012-10-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Then what's this: > ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/Release Sounds like you have a person in the middle hacking your network (or a browser bug), it works for me: pabs@chianamo ~ $ GET ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dist

Re: Discarding uploaded binary packages

2012-10-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Russell Coker wrote: > We could have a lintian warning for any occurance of the string "/home" in a > packaged file and have error conditions for "/build" and the current value of > $HOME for the account running lintian. Based on a quick grep of /usr/bin on my la

Re: Discarding uploaded binary packages

2012-10-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Russell Coker wrote: > For a warning it doesn't matter much if we have a few false-positives. For > the error conditions that I suggest for /build and $HOME I find it difficult > to > imagine false-positives except the case where a DD uses their own home > direc

Re: GR: Orphaning another maintainer's packages

2012-10-27 Thread Paul Wise
I don't think we need GRs to decide development procedures like this. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/

Re: suggestion

2012-10-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > When somebody implements it. Someone already did: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/unstable/win32-loader.txt -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Philip Ashmore wrote: > While this feature allows gdb to know the correct source locations, using it > implies that packages requiring the feature contain incorrect source paths - > wouldn't it be better for these packages to contain correct source paths in > the f

Re: Let dak commit all source packages to Git

2012-11-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: > For every debian source package that enters the archive, dak should commit the > source code to a public readable Git repository and put a signed tag on it. While we are discussing wacky ideas, there is a derivative putting the entire installed

Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update

2012-11-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Neil McGovern wrote: > Unblocks and Freeze Policy > -- > ... > We're also reducing the acceptance criteria [RM:POLICY] - we're now only going > to accept: > ... Which policy applies in the case of unblock requests that are pending action by

Re: Bits from the release team - Freeze update

2012-11-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Neil McGovern wrote: > The policy and diff from the start can be found at > http://release.debian.org/wheezy/freeze_policy.html Which policy applies to #685913 (and all the other open unblocks)? The policy announced at the beginning of the freeze or the current pol

Re: Bug#692863: ITP: heimdall -- tool for flashing firmware on Samsung Galaxy S devices

2012-11-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > There's another ITP that suggested heimdall-flash: > http://bugs.debian.org/644520 Marcin Juszkiewicz was also packaging this and I suggested android-tools-heimdall since we also have android-tools-adb and android-tools-fastboot. -- bye, p

Re: Candidates for removal from testing (2012-11-14)

2012-11-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Niels Thykier wrote: > We are considering removing the following packages from testing as > they have unfixed RC bugs filed against them. The packages can be > found in the attached dd-list. ... > Alexander Wirt >ferm Um, DSA might not be happy about that sin

Re: Bug#693310: ITP: spiped -- create secure pipes between socket addresses

2012-11-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Peter Pentchev wrote: > Description : create secure pipes between socket addresses > > spiped (pronounced "ess-pipe-dee") is a utility for creating symmetrically > encrypted and authenticated pipes between socket addresses, so that one may > connect to one ad

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > >> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=661239 >> >> Hmm, that doesn't look like a valid bug report to me. Especially I >> don't see why dhclient would be able to disrupt systemd in such a way >> that you'd need to do a hard re

Re: Usertags browser/search

2012-11-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Wookey wrote: > Usertags are very flexible but rather undiscoverable. I have been using this to backup my usertags but you can also use it to browse all the usertags known by the BTS and grep through them: rsync rsync://bugs-mirror.debian.org/bts-spool-index/user

Re: Bug#693492: ITP: litecoin -- peer-to-peer network based digital currency

2012-11-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > Litecoin is a fork of Bitcoin. Please get that documented in the security team's embedded code copies file: http://wiki.debian.org/EmbeddedCodeCopies -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-de

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 4:01 AM, Marc Haber wrote: > How many non-Linux platforms does Arch Linux (sic!) support? Looks like just Hurd: http://www.archhurd.org/ It seems that they are talking about Arch BSD too: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=142679 > I know of two non-Linux platfor

Re: x32 port bootstrap is uploaded

2012-11-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Daniel Schepler wrote: > Later I'll try to document this a bit more on the wiki, create a stub > root index.html redirecting to the wiki, and possibly create an > x32.debian.net alias. Please do move it to debian-ports.org when you are able, I don't think we want

Re: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > * Package name: linux-minidisc Thats a strange name considering it builds and runs on MacOS, Windows, Linux, FreeBSD and Haiku. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ.

Re: "Do not CC me"

2012-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > And to add to the confusion, the BTS does not automatically subscribe the > contributors to a thread, As a submitter of bugs, I do not need (nor want) to be CCed on every mail to a bug, just the ones that require my input. So I would oppose

Re: "Do not CC me"

2012-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > The solution to this is very simple. Have the > mailing list manager to add a Reply-To: header > on each messages. > > I've done this on few of the lists I manage, and since > then, nobody sends double-messages. > > But, probably, mailman i

Re: dput-ng/1.1 in unstable

2012-12-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > While the traceback is ugly, that's valid. Note 0xDEFACED isn't 8 long, > it's 7. Even though it's unlikely we'd get that key, I figured the DD > would use a UID that's valid. Anything less than the full fingerprint (8, 7 or whatever) shou

Re: Math Fonts for Iceweasel and MathJax

2012-12-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Dmitry Shachnev wrote: > I can split the fonts into a separate package. Will it be OK if I keep > the current path (/usr/share/javascript/mathjax/fonts/), or should I > change it to something else to make it possible to load the fonts from > other applications? On

Re: Math Fonts for Iceweasel and MathJax

2012-12-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Dmitry Shachnev wrote: > OK. I maybe can try to add a fontconfig script or something like that. No need for a script, just install them in the right directory. > My another question is: there are 5 types of fonts, one of which is quite > heavy: > > $ du -sh /us

Re: Packaging upstream tarballs with mixed C and Python sources

2012-12-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Игорь Пашев wrote: > I think override_dh_auto_{build,install,clean} in debian/rules could help. > For example: > > override_dh_auto_build: > cd server && ... # build server > $(MAKE) ... # build in top dir Best talk upstream into providing a better build

Re: Knowing the release names in advance (was: Feedback)

2012-12-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > $ man debian-distro-info > > Debian OS provides API to query such information. > In addition, stable alias names are also provided (stable, testing, > unstable, experimental). > As a last resort you can also scrape archive mirrors dists (e

Re: [RFC] Go (golang) packaging

2013-01-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Any feedback is appreciated. Please read the wiki page before you > comment, it contains more rationale than this email. Thanks. Since golang apparently doesn't support dynamic linking, every package built against a golang library will h

Re: [RFC] Go (golang) packaging

2013-01-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Only when not using the “official” compiler (gc), e.g. gccgo has support > for dynamic linking. Then we should use gccgo until the official compiler supports this. > AFAIK not, but I will add this to the list of questions I want to ask

Re: [RFC] Go (golang) packaging

2013-01-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > Another question: Have you considered asking for a archive Section for > those packages? I guess with no special section yet all those packages > would be section libdevel as they are for static linking only, wouldn't > they? http://wiki.d

Re: Knowing the release names in advance (was: Feedback)

2013-01-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Simon Paillard wrote: > Like a machine-readable http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/README ? Yeah, or something like this: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...

Re: Knowing the release names in advance (was: Feedback)

2013-01-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > Maybe distro-info-data's csv file should be published on mirrors, to > even provide historical names. > > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/distro-info-data.git;a=blob;f=debian.csv;h=ed3302e57d18f7697eec0b67fee259b904436684;h

Re: [RFC] Go (golang) packaging

2013-01-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > One might argue that the static case is actually better because it is > more predictable, but our post-release support model is heavily > dependent on minimal changes (because we cannot do full QA > post-release). Such minimal changes are im

Re: Time to merge back ubuntu improvements!

2013-01-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 5:09 AM, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Slightly different approach: However, for serious server deployments we in > Debian might want to think about supporting older releases a little longer > than atm. > > A scheme like > > veryoldstable -> oldstable -> stable -> testing -> unsta

Re: debian/* license of non-free packages

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Nick Andrik wrote: > Recently I was trying to convert the debian/copyright file of a > non-free package ( unrar-nonfree ) to 1.0 format. > The main license of this software is non-free (mainly because it does > not allow reverse engineering of the RAR algorithm) b

Re: debian/* license of non-free packages

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 2013-01-10 at 06:26 +0200, Nick Andrik wrote: > We have unrar-nonfree that builds the binary package unrar and > unrar-free that builds the binary package unrar-free. We also have unar that builds the binary package unar. > I guess you meant > > unrar-nonfree can probably be removed from

Re: debian/* license of non-free packages

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Nick Andrik wrote: > The main reason I decided to deal with unrar is because of e-book > reader calibre needing the libunrar.so library [1] in order to read > CBR files. I see. > Can unar provide such an interface? It is LGPL, so it could be made to provide suc

Bug#697897: RFP: xul-ext-stylish -- a user styles manager for the web

2013-01-10 Thread Paul Wise
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-Cc: Debian Mozilla Extension Maintainers , debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: xul-ext-stylish Version : 1.3.1 Upstream Author : Jason Barnabe * URL : http://userstyles.org/ : https://addons.mozilla

Re: Retrieving source package from repository without touching sources.list?

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Wise
Sounds like you are looking for chdist: pabs@chianamo ~ $ chdist create foo http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free Run chdist apt-get foo update And enjoy. pabs@chianamo ~ $ chdist apt-get foo update Get:1 http://ftp.debian.org unstable InRelease [228 kB] Get:2 http://ftp.deb

Re: Retrieving source package from repository without touching sources.list?

2013-01-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > It's called pull-debian-source Sounds like something that should be moved into devscripts. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: problematic shlibs entry in substvars file

2013-01-15 Thread Paul Wise
The version difference is probably due to symbols stuff, read deb-symbols(5), dpkg-shlibdeps(1), dpkg-gensymbols(1) and this wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/ImprovedDpkgShlibdeps No idea about the other stuff, you appear to have four copies of the C library installed and are maybe atte

Re: Bug#698256: ITP: lz4 -- Extremely Fast Compression algorithm library

2013-01-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Nobuhiro Iwamatsu wrote: > * Package name: lz4 > Description : Extremely Fast Compression algorithm library > > LZ4 is a very fast lossless compression algorithm. Is it faster than lzop? How does it compare to lzop, gzip, lzip, xz, bzip2 in terms of comp

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-15 Thread Paul Wise
Thanks a lot for your work on this! and to everyone else who worked on or shaped the proposal. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Johannes Schauer wrote: > - should Debian be bootstrappable in a fully automated fashion? We >created the algorithms that can allow this to happen, we just need >

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Wookey wrote: > I intend to send an update mail on the state of this later this week. Excellent. > Does asking d-devel for feedback count as news? Having this > functionality available for packagers would count as news... But I > agree that telling people about

Re: problematic shlibs entry in substvars file

2013-01-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:44:53AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : >> The version difference is probably due to symbols stuff, read >> deb-symbols(5), dpkg-shlibdeps(1), dpkg-gensymbols(1) and this wiki >> page: >>

Re: how to handle architecture dependent headers in subdirectories

2013-01-16 Thread Paul Wise
Would it be possible to use something similar to the bits/ dir in eglibc? Or would your proposal replace that? /usr/include/python2.7/bits -> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/python2.7/bits And in /usr/include/python2.7/* #include -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Bug#698656: ITP: adequate -- Debian package quality testing tool

2013-01-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > adequate checks quality of installed packages. Please add the commands needed for running adequate to this list of checking tools: http://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian#Check_points_for_any_package -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org

Re: Candidates for removal from testing (2013-01-24)

2013-01-25 Thread Paul Wise
n Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > So all in all it is ugly (as in most PHP webapps), but it doesn’t seem > release-critical to me. The SWF files do not appear appear to have source code in glpi. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Question about PTS web interface

2013-01-26 Thread Paul Wise
The PTS has a lot of unstable-isms, patches welcome though. Outside the freeze, experimental probably isn't particularly important to inform people about though. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "u

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: > I have a package (closure-compiler[1]) with files copyrighted by six different > parties unsystematically distributed over a large source tree. > > Has anybody already written a tool to automatically create the files section > of the debian/cop

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Wise
On the other side of the fence are folks who believe in the separation between upstream and Debian so much that they refuse to package software they are upstream for (I'm not among them, but I know they exist). -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-de

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 13:28 +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote: > Fossology seems to have been removed because it was un-maintained, > (ITP #483297 then RoQA #656591 at version 1.1.0). > But upstream looks (very) active and released version 2.1.0 three months ago. > Paul, do you think it is worth bringing it

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-01-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Iustin Pop wrote: > I would add one thing here: Haskell/GHC also (currently) doesn't create > shared libraries, and instead builds the program statically, but the > Debian Haskell group still tries to package as best as they can the > development libraries, for all

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-01-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > Having multiple package managers which don't know about each other on a system > is evil™ (but in some cases, can be managed properly). Some integration between dpkg and domain-specific package managers could be useful. With DEP-11, we cou

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