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sysvinit. in version 2.87dsf-7. Init now leave it to the kernel to
set the utf-8 flag. Perhaps login should do the same?
I do not know much about TTY setup myself, so I do not have much to
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to install a minimal installation like the
diskless LTSP clients without such package. We want these clients
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Volunteers welcome. :)
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the same error even without -o option...
i've tested it on PPC, the insserv version is 1.08.0-1
Thanks for testing.
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that with LSB-style initscripts, unfortunately.
Actually, I've implemented the concept of override files in inssert, a
program reading these headers, and the local admin can add a file in
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A quick way out is to reinstall all the packages with scripts in
/etc/init.d/.
This way proved to be too quick, trying to reinstall removed but not
purged packages with init.d scripts left behind in /etc/init.d/. I
recommend using something like this instead, to only
/var/log/dpkg.log |
awk '/ upgrade / { print $4 } / installed / { print $5 }' | sort -u
These packages, if they contain an init.d script, are the ones needing
a reinstall.
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involved packages at once?
You can look in /var/log/dpkg.log for the packages that was removed,
and reinstall them.
Again, sorry for the mess. :(
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K20makedevK30urandom K36ifupdownK90reboot
K07sysklogd K20sendsigs K31umountnfs.sh K40umountfsREADME
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--reinstall install package' on the affected packages. A
quick way out is to reinstall all the packages with scripts in
/etc/init.d/.
for p in `dpkg -S /etc/init.d/*|cut -d: -f1|sort -u`; do
apt-get --reinstall install -y $p
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I'm sorry for the problems I have caused.
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not work properly.
If I create a directory in /var/run, I expect it to stay there. And
if I can't expect that, I'd like to see that documented somewhere.
I agree that this need to be documented. We work on some notes for
the sysvinit package, and will include it there.
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it instead of when
the package is installed.
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Here is the list of packages in sarge with directories in /var/run/,
according to the file on merkel:
I got the commands used by Andreas Metzler to extract packages in
sarge with files or directories in /var/run/, and ran the it on etch.
These are the 159 packages
on. :/
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packages with mplayer in the name reported, and some of the are
alternative pcakages (like mplayer-586), so the installation base for
mplayer might be higher than 22%.
I used the numbers in URL:http://popcon.debian.org/by_inst.gz.
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mplayer would be great addition.
I agree, but understand and accept that the license issues need to be
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, pidof and sulogin are moved.
they are used independently from init, and I believe it make sense to
make them available in a separate package.
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pages, and upstream is improving it every day. :)
And it even work with amd64 CPUs. :)
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I have not seen this problem myself, but I guess that might be because
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definitely a bug in the X server too. Because of this I do not
understand why the bug is filed against gnash. :)
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I suspect there are some packages that can be dropped from the first
CD, like obsolete libraries etc, to make room for more useful
packages. At least that is my experience with Debian Edu.
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worked on
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package. The Etch release scheduled for early December will be the
first release with popularity-contest participation being requested by
the default installer. I look forward to see how that will affect the
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. debian-installer beta3 use libparted + tune2fs -j, and
this fail to enable both these features.
I really happy to know that d-i in sid now creates online re-sizable
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, but still, I find this a bit scary.
You are right. The groups in use on an NFS mounted directory should
be the same across all machines. So you should avoid making any files
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packages in NEW to enter.
Besides, there is like 18000 binary packages in Etch already. It is
not like we are short on packages in the next release. :)
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and attach the output:
ls -ld /etc/network
ls -l /etc/network/interfaces
I have no idea what can be the problem, but having more information
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is that we can
automatically detect bugs in the current boot sequence. We already
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to the script, so the change is
very low-risk. Lintian already give a warning for init.d scripts
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Solaris did it when the
Debian boot system was written, and it was used as the example. I
guess that is as good explanation as any on the historical reasons for
the strange setup in the Debian boot system.
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indicate 67 bugs.
The false positives so far
So far. How many of these cases did you manually inspect?
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This script, along with symlinks from halt and reboot, lives in
/usr/local/sbin on all my systems
Replacing halt might be a bit risky, as the story in
URL:http://bugs.debian.org/354163 document. :)
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what is the standard/canonical way of handling device permissions
in Debian (etch in my case) on desktop PCs running a GUI?
As you probably found out from the replies so far, there is no
standard way. :(
Here are some notes I wrote for Debian Edu. You might find it useful.
in the KDE version we use.
Unless d-bus started to support this during the last month, setting
plugdev via PAM will not always work (only when using pmount). Same
probably goes for network-manager and its netdev group.
:(
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for these archs, but that normally take longer time. I only
have i386 machines myself, so I can not help you.
What about convincing the upstream developers to change the license to
one of the free software licenses? It would solve the problem for
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by the packages with this
lintian message? Is the autobuilders able to build these packages?
If the autobuilders fail, I recommend you report that as a important
or serious problem, and it it isn't, I recommend you report it as a
normal bug.
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Doesn't policy violation warrant Critical severity?
Well, policy isn't a stick to beat other maintainers with, it is a
tool to make sure our packages are well integrated and work properly.
Thus, policy issues are not problems by themselves, they are policy
issues because
have been able to moderate it if it wasn't for the listadmin
package.
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redesign to avoid the
current bottleneck. I'm not sure, as I only see it from the outside
through URL:http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html.
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other to be configured before they are configured.
I'm not sure if missed this argument, choose to ignore it, or do not
consider it an argument, so I thought it best to repeat it in case you
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I take this as an indication that the amount of people not using
popcon is almost the same across all archs. :)
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say the bug is in the user expectations, not in the use of
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symlink seem like the bug to me. :)
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Is this a bug or is there a Grand Plan^© behind the way Deb did it?
Will it ever work?
It is ment to be fixed in initscripts version 2.86.ds1-16. Is it not
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to the popularity-contest HTTP collector. The
interesting parts of the server on the other hand would be the parts
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loads the shared ldap
library from /usr/ on invocation. This make it unusable in a system
with LDAP users.
Switching to dash as /bin/sh gave us a nice surprise with reduced
memory consumption and faster boots as well, but that was not the
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isn't GPL, and can not be claimed to be
GPL. And a google earth clone is rather useless without permission to
fetch data from google.
I recommend earth3d and the NASA worldwind spinoffs if you want free
map data. :)
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not this list. :)
I have not seen any arguments from Google myself, but I have not
looked for it either.
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standalone package reporting when the machine is installed or
something like that, instead of weekly.
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the rate of increase have not slowed down yet. I guess people are
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If only LDAP had client side server failover like NIS. It would make
it easier to switch to LDAP for us. We would still need the compat
mechanism to control machine access.
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connection problems, and thus
making sure a client survive network splits as long as at least one
NIS server is available.
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sure machines boot no matter the type of hardware
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the needed pieces are ready by then.
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What are the needed pieces?
I am sorry, do not have time to write a full update, so I give a quick
pointer instead. The list we use to discuss the boot system work is
initscripts-ng-de...@. See for example
URL:
hacking,
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around, by editing
the dependency information in the files in /etc/init.d/. Any sysadmin
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if it proves to be a bad idea at the moment.
If the release team are OK with the switch, I assume the consensus in
this matter is that we should try to switch and see how it goes.
I am currently busy elsewhere, so it will at the earliest happen next
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be in rcS.d/, and all others should be in rc[1-5].d/. When we get
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and parallel boot. Do your machine get IP address via
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to all of you is simple. Should the APT default be
changed or Squid be changed? Should the bug report be reassigned to
apt or stay as a bug with Squid?
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But apt has been using pipelining for years. Why has this only just
become a problem?
It has been a problem in Debian Edu for years. Just recently I
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for runlevels
0 and 6, as it is not possible to switch away from those and back to
runlevels 1-5. It is important to make sure services are restarted
We want to make sure services stopped when switching to runlevel 1 are
started when switching back to runlevel 2.
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the
heirloom-package print an error message during installation (#579287).
When installing Debian Edu in test mode, the installer grep for error:
in the installation log and report any errors found, causing a false
positive to be reported after installation.
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from the list, more people are needed to do this in
a reasonable amount of time. :)
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collector, to make sure any kernel messages
generated are collected at the correct time.
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that
rcS.d/ is not the single user runlevel (it is not used when switching
to single user after boot), and is more accurately called rc.boot in
other distributions.
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file or command line argument to dash, to allow
us to keep the old behaviour for Squeeze while allowing users to
convert dash to be POSIX compliant locally?
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like this for 25 more years, and the computer
systems introduced into the university will just have to cope with
it. :)
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packages also after
installation? Or port PackageKit to Debian and use it instead?
Anyway, a draft system is in d-i at the moment, and I welcome help
with updating the hardware mappings to get more packages installed
automatically by d-i. :)
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