Re: isync/mbsync's TLS config (was Re: OpenSSL disables TLS 1.0 and 1.1)

2017-08-07 Thread Ralph Amissah
On 2017-08-07 20:12, James McCoy wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 03:11:18PM -0400, Ralph Amissah wrote:
> > I believe this is the reason I am currently unable to backup my
> > gmail account with isync/ mbsync
> 
> That's because isync defaults to TLSv1 unless you tell it to do
> otherwise.
> 
> https://sources.debian.net/src/isync/1.2.1-2/src/drv_imap.c/?hl=2675#L2877
> 
> Add "SSLVersions TLSv1.2" to your IMAPAccount stanza and it will start
> working again.
> 

Perfect. Thanks for taking the trouble.

Thanks,
Ralph

P.S. For my (fairly old) config originally from Arch wiki there I had to add
two lines:

SSLType IMAPS
SSLVersions TLSv1.2

and to remove two others:

# UseIMAPS yes
# CertificateFile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt

There were messages about configuration settings being mutually exclusive
and others depreciated.

> Cheers,
> -- 
> James
> GPG Key: 4096R/91BF BF4D 6956 BD5D F7B7  2D23 DFE6 91AE 331B A3DB



Re: OpenSSL disables TLS 1.0 and 1.1

2017-08-07 Thread Ralph Amissah
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Colin Tuckley  wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Kurt Roeckx  wrote:
>
>> If I upload things to experimental and ask people to test it,
>> I will get no feedback at all.
>
> None the less, that is the correct thing to do.
>
> After an upload to unstable the first thing that will happen is that
> every DD will file an RC bug against it to stop it transitioning to
> testing citing no testing and massive breakage of depending packages
> with no fix available.
>
> Colin
>
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>

Greetings,

I believe this is the reason I am currently unable to backup my
gmail account with isync/ mbsync

Not only valuable for me as a backup, this makes mail available for
use with notmuch with both emacs and mutt.

Of course if this persuades gmail to update soon, great.

Anyhow, assuming this to be the reason for my inability to download
mail today, what an effort to reply to these emails I am now stuck in
the bloody browser again, no vim, no emacs ...

Ralph

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Colin Tuckley  wrote:
> On 07/08/17 19:38, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>
>> If I upload things to experimental and ask people to test it,
>> I will get no feedback at all.
>
> None the less, that is the correct thing to do.
>
> After an upload to unstable the first thing that will happen is that
> every DD will file an RC bug against it to stop it transitioning to
> testing citing no testing and massive breakage of depending packages
> with no fix available.
>
> Colin
>
> --
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> Debian Developer | +44(0)7799 143369 | 0xFA0C410738C9D903
>



[ralph.amis...@gmail.com: outrageous, thievery]

2015-11-09 Thread Ralph Amissah
I post not in anger but sadness, I should not let my voice go uncounted.

Attached is my note to Daniel of earlier today, before his posting of
"an abrupt end to Debian Live". Debian Live which he said Debian should
have (as a Debian developer) in 2006 and went on to deliver, rather
nicely (with (and without) help).

- Forwarded message from Ralph Amissah  -----

From: Ralph Amissah 
To: Daniel Baumann
Subject: outrageous, thievery
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 09:28:44 -0500
Message-ID: <20151109142844.GA28261@niu>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30)

Daniel, (already one of the more active Debian Developers then) I
remember you telling Debian at Debconf 2006, Mexico about how "we"[1]
needed a live-maker within the project. I said then that I thought this
one of the most important projects within Debian (I was surprised that
there was not more interest and effort offered by others at the time,
though there was some, those so keen now did not seem to pay attention
then).  Already then it was clear that it would one day be able to and
possibly be the preferred way to do a Debian install... as I said,
important. I saw how you contributed to Debian then, and I know how you
have contributed since. Instead of welcoming you and your work, there
seems to have been an effort to isolate you.

Well clearly others have seen the fruits of your labor as a threat and
with envy, and ripe for their plucking!

Outrageous! Disgusting. It is nasty. A bit strange to think that I
"know" some of those guys.

My interest in Debian proper, dropped with your earlier treatment, it
took away the desire to be a closer part of it. At least that took out
much of any idealized notion of the inner workings of it. And there have
been other moves since. I continue to be amazed by the politics of
groups within Debian.  This though has the feel of blatant thievery.
Chals characterization of a dictatorial coup would seem to be most
accurate.

It has no doubt to do with power (perhaps indirectly money is involved
as well), your work & work area being seen as strategically important.
They do it because they can, & justify it whatever which way they will.

I am sorry. I feel pretty bruised on your behalf.

We have not spoken in a long while. I hope we have the chance to talk in
happier times.

Greetings.
Ralph

P.S. We are ok, not much to report.

- End forwarded message -
[edits: addition of footnote, &; s/picking/plucking/]

Indeed I am a friend of Daniel and primarily a user of Debian (a minor
contributor of a package (sisu[2]) that I wrote that I am happy to have in
Debian). In other circumstances I would consider myself at least an
admirer of individuals involved on the other side of this. Indeed I (use
use some of your software daily and) have met a number of you over the
years at a number of Debconfs and have fond memories for example of
visits to Cambridge when I lived in the U.K. and of being "introduced"
to Debian by Debian insiders.

Thanks to all who have stood up for Daniel, he is a wonderful, generous,
(and capable) person. And yes, I do think him "wronged" by "Debian".
There are others that know him pretty well, who have followed a fairly
long sequence of events who must be outraged as well.

Of course I wish Debian well, but I do not see your "handling" of Daniel
as its finest hour. This will no doubt "blow over" as it must ultimately
for the good of the project, but it sticks in my craw as it no doubt
does others, and there should be some record of conscientious objection.

Ralph Amissah

[1] to be clear, "we" was Debian.
[2] http://www.sisudoc.org/
https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=s...@lists.sisudoc.org



Re: cdrtools

2006-08-10 Thread Ralph Amissah

And note: the CDDL is one of 9 preferred licenses:

http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:11636:200607:nknhhdligldemhkfbhpd


One of the preferred licenses *by the OSI*. Debian has nothing to do
with the OSI and doesn't not rely on the OSI to be told what is free
or not. Can't you even understand something that simple?


I understand things but if Debian people have problems to understand
that the OSI is the only independend institution that deals with OSS
Licenses, you are obviously a bit out of order.


"Debian" has no problem understanding that they will independently
determine what licenses are suitable to "Debian".

If you want your software in Debian, use a currently Debian approved
license.

On 10/08/06, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Note that the name "dvdrecord" is illegal too as this name is "too
close" to the name cdrecord and many people use the name "dvdrecord"
for the newer versions of cdrecord that include DVD writing although I
did never mentioned this name for my software.



Surely you jest... then again, perhaps you don't.

It is highly unlikely (that any jurisdiction would recognise) that there could
be any restriction on use of the name "dvdrecord" resulting from the
existence of another highly generic name cdrecord:
cdrecord and dvdrecord are generic names, describing what the
software does... granted you may have a claim to cdrecord having named
your software thus, but even this might be challenged by close similarly
generic cdrecordtype variants... it is questionable whether cdrecorder
or recordcd for example would be protected...

you cannot by virtue of using the generic type name cdrecord control
variants of the genric term let alone (yet) another name that is as generic
(and different): dvdrecord.


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Re: Centralized darcs (was Re: centralized bzr)

2006-08-06 Thread Ralph Amissah

On 06/08/06, Norbert Tretkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

* John Goerzen wrote:
> Darcs has a nice way of pushing patches via e-mail, with GPG
> signatures even.

That's the only feature I miss after I switched from darcs to
mercurial.

Norbert


At last someone mentions mercurial.

This is a personal (developer/programmer, and packager)
(idiosyncratic) use case:

I tend to use darcs with darcs build package for debian builds.
But mercurial is so easy to set up and convenient to use, i end up
using it for both macro and micro development purposes, ...
(mercurial takes care of programming needs, darcs packaging)

If the darcs repository is contained with the directory
./foo-1.0.1/_darcs
then that would be kept within a mercurial repository at ./.hg
and all trivial development changes, interim and otherwise
are tracked at that level the .hg repository including the
contents of _darcs.
(this making mercurial the macro and micro manager)

darcs commits and tagging occur only when the debian
package is to be built.

mercurial is fast, and pleasure to use.

darcs and mercurial, the ones that i want (and both).

Ralph


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