Intent to package JDE (Emacs Java Development Environment)

1998-06-18 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Hello Debian developers and WNPP maintainer,

I intend to package the Emacs Java Development Environment (JDE) which is an
elisp package that interfaces to the Java Development Kit, and makes Java 
programming a little more comfortable.  JDE is currently listed in the 
Programs that aren't available yet in Debian section of the WNPP.

More information can be found at http://sunsite.auc.dk/jde/

Package: jde
Status: install ok installed
Installed-Size: 423
Maintainer: Ruud de Rooij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 2.0.1-1
Depends: emacs20 | xemacs20-bin
Recommends: jdk1.1-dev
Suggests: jdk1.1-docdemo
Description: Java Development Environment for Emacs or XEmacs
 The Java Development Environment (JDE) is an Emacs Lisp package that
 interfaces Emacs to third-party Java application development tools, such as
 those provided by JavaSoft's Java Development Kit (JDK). The result is an
 integrated development environment (IDE) comparable in power to many
 commercial Java IDEs. Features include:
  * source code editing with syntax highlighting and auto indendation
  * compilation with automatic jump from error messages to responsible line
in the source code.
  * run Java application in an interactive (comint) Emacs buffer
  * integrated debugging with interactive debug command buffer and automatic
display of current source file/line when stepping through code
  * browse JDK doc, using the browser of your choice
  * browse your source code, using the Emacs etags facility or a
tree-structured speedbar.
  * supports latest version of JavaSoft's Java Development Kit
  * runs on any platform supported by Emacs and Sun's Java SDK (e.g., Win95/NT
and Solaris)
  * easily and infinitely customizable
  * works with FSF Emacs and XEmacs
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Re: Intent to package JDE (Emacs Java Development Environment)

1998-06-19 Thread Ruud de Rooij
On 1998/06/19, James Troup wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ruud de Rooij) writes:
 
  Package: jde
 
 [...]
 
  Depends: emacs20 | xemacs20-bin
^^
 
 Why?  We run JDE on Emacs 19.34 here in the department just fine.

According to the requirements as listed on http://sunsite.auc.dk/jde/, to
get JDE to work with [x]emacs 19.x, requires additional and updated elisp
packages, but JDE works out-of-the-box for [x]emacs 20.x.

  Recommends: jdk1.1-dev

 \begin{just checking}You realise, of course, this puts it in
 contrib?\end{just checking}

Yes, I do realize that.  I think a Suggests type dependency is too weak 
here since a significant amount of the funcationality of JDE would be lost 
if jdk1.1-dev wouldn't be installed.

Greetings,

Ruud.
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Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Ruud de Rooij
On 1998/10/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kikutani Makoto writes:
  Yes, my PGP is an international version which was built in Japan, and I
  brought it in my laptop.
 
 The international version infringes the RSA patent and so the owner of the
 patent (PKP?) could theoretically sue you for using it in the US.  All they
 could get is an injunction ordering you to stop, though.  There is no real
 chance that they would bother.  If you are feeling paranoid, delete your
 international version and install the US one.
 
  But of course I can't prove it.
 
 There is no reason why you would need to do so.  The munitions export laws
 (unrelated to the patent issue) forbid the export of strong pgp from the
 US, regardless of its origin.  You are safe from those as long as you stay
 in the US.  Theoretically, you should delete pgp from your laptop before
 you take it home.

I seem to recall that transfer of cryptographic software to a non-US 
citizen is already considered export in the US.

IANAL.

- Ruud de Rooij.

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Re: Call for mascot! :-)

1999-01-28 Thread Ruud de Rooij
On 1999/01/28, Anderson MacKay wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Chris Waters wrote:
  1.  Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC)
  2.  Octopus (my own suggestion)
  3.  Monkey
  4.  Ant
  5.  Bee
 
 Ants and Bees are probably the easiest to do cool 3d raytracings with, if
 that's any thing.  I'd have to take ants.  Lots of little creatures doing
 their own thing, but cooperatively building something really cool as a
 result. Hmmm, that sounds familiar. :)

In that case, we should name our releases after characters from
a Bug's Life :-)

- Ruud de Rooij.

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Re: jdk1.1 grave bug (Was: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Ruud de Rooij
On 1999/02/01, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:

 On Monday 1 February 1999, at 10 h 54, the keyboard of 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale E. Martin) wrote:
  java was not found in /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../bin/i686/green_threads/java
 ...
  The binary is somehow actually missing, and I've not done anything weird as
  far as I know.  The other folks who are saying is doesn't work have the

 Sam's message indicates that the i686 directory is used. Since the name inclu
 des a .. could it be a symbolic link problem? Sam, any symlink in /usr/lib/
 jdk1.1/bin? Any chance when deinstalling jdk and reinstalling?
 
 It works for me (tm):

The binaries disappear if you upgrade from an older version of the JDK.

Previously, they were installed in .../i586/ and i686 was a symlink to that.
Currently, they are installed in .../i686/ and i586 is the symlink. dpkg
does not handle that case very well (i.e., not at all)  Something similar
happened to X as well during the hamm freeze, IIRC.

A purge and reinstall will fix this problem, though.

- Ruud de Rooij.
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Re: Move proftpd to contrib

1999-09-17 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 10:42:36PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
  This package has been a major source of serious security bugs and
  indicatiosn are that it will remain as such.  Our Policy states that
  packages that are not sufficiently free of bugs to meet our standards
  should not be in main and should be moved to contrib.  I therefore
 
 I don't think policy says that contrib is a dumping ground for
 crap packages. Can you point out which part to me please?

2.1.3. The contrib section
--

 Every package in contrib must comply with the DFSG.

 Examples of packages which would be included in contrib are
* free packages which require contrib, non-free, or non-US
  packages or packages which are not in our archive at all for
  compilation or execution,
* wrapper packages or other sorts of free accessories for non-free
  programs,
---* packages which we don't want to support because they are too
---  buggy, and
* packages which fail to meet some other policy requirements in a
  serious way.

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Re: emacs and anacron on slink

1999-09-21 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Tomasz Wegrzanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Since I removed emacs 19 anacron sends me mail every day
 in which it says :
 File /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail registered but not 
 installed
 
 and since I removed all emacses from my computer there is
 another line in everyday mail :
 File /usr/lib/emacs/20.3/i386-debian-linux-gnu/movemail registered but not 
 installed
 
 I think this is a bug in emacs uninstalation script

Indeed.  Please remove the offending lines from /etc/suid.conf
yourself.

 I also think no editor should be privileged anyhow by debian
 Everyones favorite editor is very intimate matter and
 forcing anyone to use particular is breaking of users privacy

Why do you think Debian is forcing you to use one specific editor?

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Re: Which gcc builds potato?

1999-09-21 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So, what, if anything, is being built with egcs? 

Nothing, since egcs does not exist in the distribution anymore.

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Re: gnome-utils in slink

1999-09-21 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Tomasz Wegrzanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 gpenguin should fly so CENTER of penguin1.png is
 at the mouse pointer not UPPER-LEFT corner
 
 gw gives me :
 ** WARNING **: Could not open help topics file NULL

Please use the bug tracking system (see http://bugs.debian.org) to
report bugs instead of sending them to the developers discussion
mailing list.

- Ruud de Rooij.
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Re: sash

1999-09-24 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Michael Neuffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 * Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990923 16:15]:
  On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 07:32:50AM -0500, Ashley Clark wrote:
   Couldn't sash include a PAM module that would change the password to
   match root's password whenever it was changed? Or am I oversimplifying
   things?
  
  I don't have enough confidence in Debian's pam, yet, to insist that
  everyone that wants to use sash must implement pam support before
  using sash.
 
 Depending on PAM  would be a fatal mistake.
 sash is for situations when your system is FUBARed,
 therefore you can not assume that you will still have
 a working PAM subsystem either.
 
 It must be completely standalone without needing any external
 libraries.

This is _not_ about the sash executable itself using PAM.  It was a
proposal to use the PAM functionality to ensure that the root and
sashroot passwords remain in sync, i.e., whenever root's password is
changed, change the sashroot password as well.

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Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-24 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Peter Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 For those of us who attend in multiple countries we could book plane 
 flights
 together (hopefully get a good deal), play network Quake in the plane, 
 etc.
 
Then we need a sponsor with a big wallet.
 
 ...or a battery-powered hub :-)

Have people forgotten about coax? :-)

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Re: Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-25 Thread Ruud de Rooij
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) writes:

 Am 24.09.99 schrieb joey # kitenet.net ...
 
 Moin Joey!
 
 JH  dh_installdocs uses doc-base, which in turn registers documents for
 JH  dwww and dhelp. Thous it is a superset and should be used, no?
 
 I would recommend using dwww and dhelp directly. dhelp#s parser is written  
 in C and uses a database. So it#s a lot of faster than using doc-base,  
 which is written in perl. Especially on old 486/586 CPUs using dhelp  
 directly speeds up the installation process of packages dramatically.
 
 dhelp comes with a dhelp - dwww converter. So it#s no problem to support  
 both system.

 JH Yes.
 
 Why? What is the advantage of using doc-base?

Because if in the future we get another documentation system in
addition to dhelp and dwww, it will be automatically supported by
every package using doc-base.

Why do we have two Debian documentation systems in the first place?
NIHS?

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Re: Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-28 Thread Ruud de Rooij
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) writes:

 PSG I could see http://localhost/doc/HTML/, but all new docs visible
 PSG as file:/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html could not be seen under
 PSG the http://localhost interface to dhelp.  Is `fhs' supposed to be
 PSG a new Alias?
 
 localhost/doc/ should point to /usr/share/doc. Please submit a bug report  
 for your http daemon.

It should point to /usr/doc/ as a result of the technical committee
decision.

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Re: Re^2: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-29 Thread Ruud de Rooij
/share/doc.
 
 RR while the files are also
 RR accessible via the symlink as /usr/doc/package.  There needs to be
 
 One again: they are *not* accessible via these symlinks! This may work  
 sometimes but not always - hack. A good configured http daemon will not  
 follow these symlinks.

Why not?  A well-configured http daemon can be configured so that
symlinks from /usr/doc will be allowed but not from other locations.

 RR some work around for this, but this should be possible with some Perl
 RR or Shell knowledge.
 
 dhelp is a offline system. dhelp doesn#t convert things during runtime  
 like dwww does.
 
 RR No problem when you see /usr/doc as the one and only directory for
 RR accessing the files.
 
 ??? But we use /usr/share/doc. Read the policy.

READ THE FSCKING TECH CTTE DECISION.

 RR The documentation of every package should be
 RR available as /usr/doc/package in potato (this will change in the far
 RR future, but now we are working on potato).
 
 Great and the next Debian release will have the same or even more  
 problems. I don#t like such hacks. In fact I don#t understand why we  
 should not simply move our documentation to the new directory.

Then read the debian-policy archives and the tech ctte decision.
Surely if it would be that simple, why was there such an amount of
discussion about it.
 
 RR decision.  Maybe you noticed, that newer versions of debhelper and
 RR lintian already support this way to handle this.
 
 I don#t use debhelper.

Good for you.

 RR That's not true.  At least apache supports following symlinks when you
 RR activate this with Options FollowSymLinks in access.conf for the
 RR /usr/doc directory.  Other web servers will support this in a similar
 RR way.
 
 Will apache follow symlinks in /usr/doc or symlinks to all possible files?  
 Using this feature could course real security problems. And of course  
 there#re other http daemons than apache.

One last request.  Can you please use the ASCII character set in your
messages?  Those # (hash marks) instead of apostrophes do not help the 
readability of your messages.

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Re: Intent to give away: gradio, troffcvt

1999-10-05 Thread Ruud de Rooij
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes:

 gradio is a simple program suitable for a newbie maintainer,
 though I suppose we don't have any newbie maintainers given that
 we don't have any new maintainers.

Even though I am not a newbie maintainer, I am willing to take this
package, if noone else volunteers.  I've got a TV/radio card and use
this package myself.

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Re: procps trying to overwrite /bin/kill

1999-10-06 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Mirek Kwasniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:24:35AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
  Package: procps
  Version: 1:2.0.3-3
  
  Preparing to replace procps 1:2.0.3-3 (using 
  .../procps_1%3a2.0.3-4_i386.deb) ..
  .
  Unpacking replacement procps ...
  dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/procps_1%3a2.0.3-4_i386.deb 
  (--un
  pack):
   trying to overwrite `/bin/kill', which is also in package bsdutils
   dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
  
  This seems to be seriously broken.
 
 No, news bsdutils package is without kill.

Then there should be a proper conflicts or replaces header in the
procps package.

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Re: permission denied on owned files

1999-10-06 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the
 subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the
 build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here is what I get:

 $ cd sbuild
 sh: cd: sbuild: Permission denied
 $ ls -l
 total 9
 drw-rw-r--   2 buildbuild1024 Oct  6 09:47 sbuild
 
 So, where do I look to figure out why I am not allowed access to these
 files/directories?

In order to access a directory you must have execute permission (the
x-bit) on it.

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Re: bootpd/tftpd bug

1999-10-06 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Eduardo Marcel Macan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I have only noticed it on a slink machine, I ask someone who has 
 potatoes to test it too...
 
   I am configuring one machine as a boot server in order to install
 Debian in a PowerPC (IBM 43P) I have here, but one strange thing is happening.
 
   bootpd gets the request and sends the machine an IP number ok, and
 tells it that the file to get is /rescue2200prep.bin (notice the slash).
 but when it asks tftp to send /rescue2200prep.bin it gets an access
 violation, if I manually invoke a tftp session and ask for 
 rescue2200prep.bin it comes right.
 
   The problem is that there is no way of preventing bootpd from adding 
 the slash to the bootfile name, neither making tftpd accept the slash (it
 does not accept it for security reasons I think).
 
   I looked at the bug database and it seems that noone reported 
 such thing before, maybe it can be in potato too. If so, I can file 
 a bug report (against netstd).

By default, tftpd is set up to serve only files from /boot, which is
also the default directory if a relative path is specified (this is
documented in the manual page tftpd(8)).  You can change this
behaviour by editing the tftpd line in /etc/inetd.conf: change the
occurrence of /boot to / .

If bootpd silently translates a relative path into an absolute one,
that sounds like a bug against bootpd.  Please use the bug reporting
system to file a bug, then.

As a workaround, you could configure bootpd to send the path
/boot/rescue2200prep.bin to the client, which will be allowed by the
tftpd server.

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Re: Permission policy

2000-03-16 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Radovan Garabik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 01:43:22AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
  BTW: there is a idea for settig groups for console access to devices
  like cdrom, floppy, sound, mic, cam... so each user who logs into the
  sonsole will get added to that groups, then your program does not need to be
  sgid anyrthing, which is bad anyway since everybody even on networked
  terminal could start it.
 
 I am by setting all linux installations this way:
 I add this line to /etc/security/group.conf:
 login;tty?|tty??!ttyp*;*;Al-2400;floppy, audio
 and configure pam to use it.

This has a trivial attack.  Once someone logs in to the console, he
is a member of the floppy group, therefore he can do the following:

cp /bin/sh ~
chgrp floppy ~/sh
chmod g+s ~/sh

And later when he logs in through the network, he simply runs

~/sh

to regain access to the floppy group.

(of course, this attack can be prevented using mount options to
disable setgid executables on all filesystems where users have write
access)

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Re: WNPP

2000-03-28 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Brian Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ...or maybe not.  It's got cryptographic hashing algos (tiger, sha1, etc), so
 I probably can't package it due to wonderful US laws. Drat.

So dpkg must be moved to non-us because it contains an implementation
of a cryptographic hashing algorithm (MD5)?

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Re: Mozilla PSM (https support)

2000-09-13 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Note that Netscape 4.75 is in main.

Since when?

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