Glad that you guys will take care of this, as it is way over my head.
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One finds packages depending on obsolete packages, e.g.,
# aptitude -F %p search ?obsolete | xargs -n 1 echo aptitude why|sh -x
+ aptitude why libicu38
i gimpDepends libwebkit-1.0-1 (= 1.0.1)
i A libwebkit-1.0-1 Depends libicu38 (= 3.8-5)
+ aptitude why libltdl3
i php5-mcrypt
Or at least nice(1) those calls.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533019
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Version: 2.87dsf-2
Severity: wishlist
File: /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh
X-debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
I have an idea. Every few days when booting we encounter a file system
check, which takes several minutes. We sit there, helpless,
unable to issue any command. All
Started happening last week, this became doubled:
$ ls /dev/disk/by-id/ | head -n 1
ata-FUJITSU_MHT2040AT_FUJITSU_MHT2040AT_NN4GT531H3AR
- -
^ ^
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
APT prefers experimental
Odd, only the ata- ones are doubled.
$ ls /dev/disk/by-id/
ata-FUJITSU_MHT2040AT_FUJITSU_MHT2040AT_NN4GT531H3AR
ata-FUJITSU_MHT2040AT_FUJITSU_MHT2040AT_NN4GT531H3AR-part1
ata-FUJITSU_MHT2040AT_FUJITSU_MHT2040AT_NN4GT531H3AR-part10
ata-FUJITSU_MHT2040AT_FUJITSU_MHT2040AT_NN4GT531H3AR-part3
FZ == Felix Zielcke fziel...@z-51.de writes:
FZ I'm also running the udev in experimental 146-1 and have the same, but
FZ it affects only my IDE disk not my SATA ones even though they have an
FZ ata-* link too:
FZ $ ls -1 /dev/disk/by-id/
FZ ata-SAMSUNG_SP1213N_SAMSUNG_SP1213N_S00UJ10X203399
FZ
Gentlemen, I can't take it anymore. That's why I hand it to
$ cat spam-bug-reopener
#!/bin/sh -eu
#reopen a Debian bug closed by spam, which you feed in via stdin
bug=$(
perl -nwe 'if (s/^X-Debian-PR-Message: they-closed (\d+)$/$1/){print;exit}')
if test $bug
then
echo reopen $bug|
mail
OK, this reopens and also reports.
#!/bin/sh -eu
#Reopen and report a Debian bug closed by spam, which you feed in via stdin.
bug=$(
perl -nwe 'if (s/^X-Debian-PR-Message: they-closed (\d+)$/$1/){print;exit}')
if test $bug
then
set -x
echo reopen $bug|
mail -s Reopening $bug closed by
Dear debian-devel: has anybody tried piuparts, pbuilder offline?
You see, often there is some package that I suspect is not
diaper-trained, leaving more than just say footprints in /var/log/
upon purge, or perhaps not cleaning back up the Registry (debconf), etc.
So I think: well there's this
Just use a local approx mirror.
Patches are welcome.
I'm saying that if anybody knows how to use piuparts (and/or pbuilder)
offline, then please add an example to the documentation.
Please show all the steps needed, starting at:
# poff
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HL == Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes:
HL tags 512458 +wontfix
HL thanks
HL Hi,
HL On Montag, 2. Februar 2009, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
Just use a local approx mirror.
I'm saying that if anybody knows how to use piuparts (and/or pbuilder)
offline, then please add an example to
LN == Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net writes:
LN - using a local cache/proxy, such as approx, that would have the .debs
LN you need if you first run piuparts online once on the packages you are
LN interested in, before running it offline.
I used to run apt-get through WWWOFFLE, but
I have finally figured out how to remove the items with no owners from
the debconf database.
It took the fancy Makefile below, created by reverse engineering the
extremely complicated debconf system as far as I was able.
The big problem is that it is an extreme mystery how to do just
#
j good_owners:owners
j dpkg -l $$(cat $?)|perl -alnwe 'print $$F[1] if /^.[ic]/' $@
I should have used COLUMNS= dpkg...
I ended up messing up a lot of packages.
That is life here.
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AM == Agustin Martin agmar...@debian.org writes:
AM You can try /usr/share/debconf/fix_db.pl
AM IIRC, it checks for templates with no owners.
Ah, Indeed, it seems to mention that in the code.
I wish these things were documented.
$ find /usr/share/man*/m*|grep debconf|xargs zgrep -i fix
$
Speaking about new control fields, how about Date:?
Imagine, freshness dating available right there on the grocer's
shelf, in Packages.gz. No need for the consumer to jump through
additional hoops to find out.
OK, never mind.
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Imagine, freshness dating available right there on the grocer's
shelf, in Packages.gz. No need for the consumer to jump through
additional hoops to find out.
PW Which date would it contain?
The date the maintainer made the polishing touches on the .deb.
That way one could tell, even when
OK, instead of a Date: field in Packages, I can get a better idea of how
well maintained a package is with an updates vs. bugs perspective, e.g.,
for package
do for u in http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html?src=$package \
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=$package
B I actually can't remove the file because Avasys ships
B debian packages of the epkowa backend. Removing the config file is a
B no-no here.
B This has unfortunately always been a problem with conffiles.
J All I know is dlocate said there is no other owners... sounds like
J some policy violation
Can somebody up the time the Packages.IndexDiff and associated files
are kept on the mirrors from one week to two please? These very few
more bytes would save low bandwidth users hours in case they don't
return home within the seven days currently allotted.
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I dutifully re-checked each bug.
Today I got another pile in my mailbox to recheck.
I did not check if they were the ones I had just rechecked.
I instead just gave up.
This is the Bank. You have 60 days to respond that you still want the
money in your account.
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Thanks anyway. You are welcome to do what you wish with my firefox bugs.
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Package: general
Severity: wishlist
This message made by several programs is misleading:
# ed /etc/fonts/conf.d/61-traditional.conf
/etc/fonts/conf.d/61-traditional.conf: No such file or directory
q
# ls /etc/fonts/conf.d/61-traditional.conf
ls: /etc/fonts/conf.d/61-traditional.conf: No such
I guess what bothers me is
# ed /etc/fonts/conf.d/61-traditional.conf
/etc/fonts/conf.d/61-traditional.conf: No such file or directory
makes me need to check do I need to create the directory? instead of
just proceeding to edit the file.
$ vi /zzz/qqq is worse. It only checks when it's time to
With the new style of mass tirage of bugs,
The user submits a bug;
while (sleep 1 year) {
He gets a message asking him to verify if the bug still exists;
He perhaps especially reinstalls the package that he long ago stopped using
He verifies it || the bug is closed
}
Now disposing of
Be sure that somebody looks at new bugs.
As days pass, the test conditions in the report e.g., URLs, deteriorate.
As weeks pass, the user may have removed the package for another.
As months pass, the user may no longer be working on related projects.
As years pass, the user himself might have
DN don't have the time (or often the ability) to go back and
DN reproduce the hundreds of bugs
Yes. Never mind the old bugs then. Just try to reproduce new bugs as
they come in, before they become old bugs.
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The newest fad in Mass bug closings is:
All bugs against package nurd5 have been automatically closed without
further review,
as nurd5 has been removed from Debian.
OK, fair enough, until one checks deeper and finds:
nurd5 has been removed from Debian because:
By the way, it would be great if the mirrors kept more than just a
week of Diffs. It seems every time I get back from a trip, I end up
uploading the whole Packages.gz file again. Two weeks worth would be better.
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LN Now, a mistake was made in with nurd{5,6}. It's easy to fix it, just
LN reopen all the bugs, and mark them as notfound in the version used in
LN their -close message. It would have been a lot more helpful and less
LN demotivating to contact the one who closed the bugs instead of mailing
LN
AM It is a known temporary problem caused by the ... transition,
All I know is on the first days of such transitions, my usual
# apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true --purge dselect-upgrade
barfs up kilometers of broken dep messages, the next day it is fewer,
but still several broken
All I know is on my stripped down computer with no speakers (except
for the boot beep beeper), I asked myself: why can I dpkg-purge
esound-clients, but then if I do apt-get dist-upgrade (vs.
dselect-upgrade), it gets installed back again?
Well it turns out esound-clients is depended on by libesd0
Say, couldn't there be some automatic checks so we users don't encounter
# apt-get dist-upgrade
ERR: trying to overwrite `some file, which is also in package other_package
Happened twice to me today here on sid, #491457, #493711.
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OB == Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OB Le mercredi 06 août 2008 à 08:14 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
Say, couldn't there be some automatic checks so we users don't encounter
# apt-get dist-upgrade
ERR: trying to overwrite `some file, which is also in package other_package
How do you pros keep the latest linux-doc package installed, like
linux-image-2.6-686, but for linux-doc? Too barfy:
# set linux-doc-2.6 #virtual package
# dpkg-unhold $@
# apt-get purge linux-doc-2.6.25 #by hand each new version
# apt-get dselect-upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade #both not strong
Say, often a developer upgrades a group of related packages, but they
don't hit the mirrors at the same time. This causes apt-get
dselect-upgrade and dist-upgrade to remove the older parts instead of
holding back for the newer parts. One must use apt-get upgrade for the
many days the condition
I.e., here we see apt gets it right for php5, but not for gimp:
# apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true dist-upgrade
Investigating php5
Package php5 has broken dep on libapache2-mod-php5
Package php5 has broken dep on libapache2-mod-php5filter
Package php5 has broken dep on php5-cgi
Or group
AP apt-get dist-upgrade is not meant to be run on a daily basis on sid, but
AP only as needed and for when you actually look at the output to make sure
AP it doesn't remove something you actually want. Second of all, real men
AP use aptitude, which handles these kinds of dependencies in a smarter
TF aptitude safe-upgrade
TF aptitude dist-upgrade
OK works good and I am sold.
Maybe I can even use aptitude to solve my other posting today
how to keep the latest linux-doc package installed?
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How do you pros keep the latest linux-doc package installed, like
linux-image-2.6-686, but for linux-doc?
PW Sounds like you want to file a wishlist bug asking for linux-doc-2.6
PW to become a meta-package built from the linux-latest-2.6 source
PW package.
Bugs 347284, 480060
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What is the recommended procedure for changing from e.g. lilo to grub?
Since you plan to drop lilo post-lenny, I guess this will be a quite
common question during the lifetime of lenny. Users will notice that
lilo is being deprecated and wonder how to switch. Maybe something to
document in
Urg..., as titled.
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W: Failed to fetch
http://emacs.orebokech.com/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not
Found
RF == Romain Francoise rom...@orebokech.com writes:
RF Either build from source yourself, or go back to Emacs 23.
Holy moly. My .emacs file has evolved greatly since emacs 23 using
Aren't there any checks in place to prevent a package from becoming
uninstallable?
E.g., bug #615530, #615528.
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Well OK, but can't the package owners get a friendly mail once a day
yoo hoo Holmes, your package is now broken, lest they relax at the
beach totally unaware one day Auntie Nelda might suddenly have the urge
to use their package in a hurry?
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BF == Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes:
BF Why is Auntie Nelda using the unstable repository? Is she comfortable
BF running an OS from a repository with no promises about stability? If
BF not, who advised her to do that?
Let's find out,
Speaking about mirrors. I gave up on using them for apt-get update and
haven't looked back since.
* http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=616064
* http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=616489
Works for me!
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Well that is all pleasant and good, and I hope you fellows get your
mirror issues resolved. However I think you fellows should take a lesson
from Google™ who doesn't bother the consumer about mirrors... it's all
under the hood, from best cache worthy HTTP headers to ISPs who use them
best, or who
Recently I replied to a certain message on this list with my familiar
S W runs the command gnus-summary-wide-reply-with-original
keystrokes, only to receive
I'm subscribed to the list, no need to CC me:
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct
No need to reply to this message.
And
JV == James Vega james...@debian.org writes:
JV As for #616489, that doesn't make any sense. How can apt know the hash sums
JV don't match if it hasn't downloaded the file in order to compute the hash
sum
JV for comparison?
I don't know. All I know is it also seems to happen at
...and when it happens it takes out apt's index files for several hours
# apt-cache policy coreutils
coreutils:
Installed: 8.5-1
Candidate: 8.5-1
Version table:
*** 8.5-1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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Also note the uni2ascii package.
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Could the Debian obituaries start including the age, and cause of death
please. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obituary#Contents
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BB == Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org writes:
BB Before demanding private information from others, you could fix your MUA
BB to include a name of your own.
Well you could first help by not using a Blank surname!
:-)
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Recently Debian sid split the kernel into these two packages,
linux-image-2.6.39-1-486_2.6.39-1_i386.deb
linux-image-2.6.39-1-686-pae_2.6.39-1_i386.deb
My Thinkpad ended up being told by the installation scripts to use -486.
But my Thinkpad isn't really very old... how can one double check to
RC == Russell Coker russ...@coker.com.au writes:
RC Why not just install the other kernel and try booting it?
Maybe it will lead to subtle data loss. You never know. That's why I was
hoping to dig out of the .debs just how they determine which Thinkpads
are hip, and which to skip.
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BH == Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes:
BH The clue is in the name. And expanded in the description, in case you
BH don't know what PAE is.
$ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.39-1-686-pae|grep Celeron
supported by the Intel Pentium Pro/II/III/4/4M/D, Xeon, Celeron, Core and
That's me.
JM == Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
JM How about trying a “grep pae /proc/cpuinfo” instead of looking for
JM approximate CPU descriptions?
And indeed lshw says
product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.40GHz
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr mce
AR == Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name writes:
AR Or specifically mention early Centrino CPUs not having PAE support.
Celeron™ too! So just say may or might like the pros do.
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Ah,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_bit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing
you know I am learning more and more from you fellows every day.
I have some specific recommendations: forget about listing individual
brands,
Gentlemen, I shall be delivering my talk,
Reflections of a bigtime Debian bug reporter
http://jidanni.org/comp/bug_reporter.html
at the 2009 Taiwan Mini Debian Conference
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTaiwan/MiniDebConf2009
2009/09/26-27. Please be gentle.
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I need some help with
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=526521
I want to know the proper package to assign this bug to.
All I know is we are supposed to use iptables recipies to protect our
computers, and when I use
# iptables -A b -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
in
retitle 526521 add /etc/sysctl.d/iptables.conntrack.accounting.conf
severity 526521 wishlist
thanks
LB == Lars Bahner lars.bah...@gmail.com writes:
LB You don't really need to file a bug. You need to add a file
LB /etc/sysctl.d/iptables.conntrack.accounting.conf
LB which should contain the
. And I still think a
LB wishlist bug against iptables is appropriate and would have helped
LB Jidanni, had it existed.
It would have not likely helped me, Jidanni, as I just use cookie cutter
recipes, and all I know is I need to update this recipe I got from
somewhere,
iptables -F; iptables -X
You people are lucky you have me on board.
Because I am a very simple minded person.
All I know is I use some thing documented there on the iptables man
page, and I get a warning. I noticed that warning because I happened to
look in /var/log/syslog one day.
The warning says something worse will
We have added a day trip to the Taiwan Mini-DebConf program, to visit
the Google Corporation, in Taipei 101, the world's tallest building.
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTaiwan/MiniDebConf2009#Monday2009-09-28
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SpamAssassin is run on Alioth, but its results are ignored.
The spam, though detected, is not separated out from the stream.
We have tried over and over to get in touch with anybody in charge.
Maybe somebody reading debian-devel can tell an Alioth administrator.
SpamAssassin is run on Alioth, but its results are ignored.
The spam, though detected, is not separated out from the stream.
SG This is isn't actually true
$ GET http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.eeepc/2539/raw |grep
X-Spam-Status
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=9.2 required=5.0
Re: http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/thread=147634
Thank you all for your attention to this issue and allowing us to
finally find people in charge for
http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.linux.debian.devel.eeepc/thread=2462
Now what is needed is for the spam threshold
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTaiwan/MiniDebCamp
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OK, but can somebody adjust the spam filtering on
debian-eeepc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
to make it just as spam free as
debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Thanks.
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found 513142 1.8.42
tags 513142 - unreproducible
notfixed 513142
thanks
I wish the line below,
Please inform the package maintainer about this problem.
would say which package it is talking about. Or at least it could say
don't tell the maintainers of x y and z'.
Setting up
Can somebody put the unihan.txt file back where it belongs via NMU for 551789?
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BF == Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes:
BF explicit as to why you think it's relevant here
I was hoping someone on debian-DEVEL could speed the process with a NMU
or something.
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# PW == Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes:
#PW I think this bug should be reassigned back to the unicode package and
#PW changed to severity important
reassign 551789 unicode
severity 551789 important
#PW it needs to be adapted to the latest upstream formats and probably
#PW also handle the old
I had a certain somebody in mind that I wanted to nominate for the post
of Debian Public Relations Director. But alas, no such mechanism exists amongst
$ w3m -dump http://www.debian.org/devel/constitution |grep -i nominate
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Package: general
Severity: wishlist
Many executables in .../sbin have their man pages in section 1 instead
of section 8.
Perhaps a piuparts like script could comb over the apt-file search
results to target them.
Not sure if a policy violation. Or if should be made part of policy.
P.S., I am
HL Do you intend to file individual bugs? I'd appreciate this.
Actually I've filed many individual bugs, some even just today.
Then I got this great idea that instead of me just mentioning in to
packages that I've stumbled into, there could be a systematic combing of
all Debian.
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I tried to find all bugs with section 8 in their title via
http://bugs.debian.org
An error occurred. Error was: You have to choose something to select by
I'll try this to at least find (most of) mine:
$ w3m -cols -dump
Well just like many of the comments to 348864, I just hate the teasers
in section 1 that only root can run.
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Tags: security
Severity: wishlist
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rho...@deb.at
GF == Gerfried Fuchs rho...@deb.at writes:
GF Hi!
GF * jida...@jidanni.org [2010-02-22 18:12:46 CET]:
Do mention secur...@debian.org on
It seems for us experimental archive users, most of the year we see e.g.,
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6-4.8 which is a virtual package.
python-apt: Depends: libapt-inst-libc6.9-6-1.1 which is a virtual package.
Depends:
I don't get it. Even booting still requires bash
$ find grub* -executable|xargs checkbashisms #grub-pc 1.98+20100617-1
script grub-common.preinst is already a bash script; skipping
script grub-pc.postinst is already a bash script; skipping
script grub-pc.postrm is already a bash script; skipping
In Debian Project News - June 14th, 2010
AR == Alexander Reichle-Schmehl toli...@debian.org writes:
AR Debian Community Poll
AR The Poll is available at http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska . Torsten asks to
AR spread the link to as many users as possible.
And there at tinyurl, we read
|What is the
Better get those 0 byte files off of the mirrors. Apt is stuck.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=595691
That's the only way to get out of this mess without needing to alert
users.
Get rid of the zero byte files on the mirrors, push out a new apt, and
hope nobody notices.
You can
OK, it seems only debian-multimedia has the problem. I'll tell
maril...@debian.org to please see
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=595691 .
P.S., the way the progress messages appear, one cannot tell which server
we are working with, but instead the last transaction completed etc.
Your posting looks identical to one for a package that didn't yet exist
in Debian.
Readers think when they see the Subject: I swear I already use a such
named package.
Therefore there should be put into place a system to allow you to use a
different subject.
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Yes, my aptitude is frozen right now at the same spot :(
AH I am also experiencing this, seems to just be a problem with the main
AH repo. I use http://ftp.uk.debian.org.
The problem is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=595691
FT Too late to hope this problem will not be
New and noteworthy packages
---
The following packages were added to the unstable Debian archive recently:
* rtkit -- Realtime Policy and Watchdog Daemon [97]
* scenic -- telepresence software for live performances and installations
[98]
* sea-defender -- Sea
I recommend first putting the packages in place, then afterwards the
index files. After a successful apt-get update, I got upon upgrade
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main libuuid1 i386 2.19.1-2
404 Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80]
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/
W: Failed to fetch
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/PackagesIndex
MD5Sum mismatch
W: Failed to fetch
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/non-free/binary-i386/PackagesIndex
MD5Sum mismatch
W: Failed to fetch
P.S.,
E: Failed to fetch
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/sqlite3/libsqlite3-0_3.7.7-1_i386.deb:
404 Not Found [IP: 35.9.37.225 80]
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AM == Albrecht Mann n...@nexnode.net writes:
Can't be a mirror issue. I'm not using a mirror.
AM Yes you are.
OK, psst... tell me the root URL, I promise I will only use it for
testing. (Hmmm, that's what I told the .TW mirror before I ditched him,
so better not tell me.)
E: Failed to fetch
SP == Simon Paillard spaill...@debian.org writes:
SP Jidanni, could you please report such issues to debian-mirrors ?
OK, but nobody sees it there,
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/2011/07/msg5.html
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All I know is you fellows broke nodm rather royally for me.
I use nodm on desktops and laptops, with Debian flavor:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
I did aptitude forbid-version nodm and will
Package: general
X-windows programs don't work anymore for root.
And whatever is making these messages sure doesn't give a clue as to
what package to reassign the bug to.
# emacs -Q #sometimes things work, (but only for a few minutes.) But mostly
they don't start at all anymore:
# emacs -Q
TJL == Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes:
TJL These both sound like dbus misconfiguration to me. Does something as
TJL simple as xclock work?
Yes xclock works.
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TJL == Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes:
TJL jida...@jidanni.org writes:
Yes xclock works.
TJL Ok. You really need to describe what sort of setup you are using before
TJL it is possible to guess what could be wrong. Are you starting dbus
TJL session bus at all?
I think so. I
TJL This is probably your dbus system bus. It's hard to say since pstree
TJL does not show what arguments were used.
# pstree -aA|grep dbus
| |-grep dbus
|-dbus-daemon --system
|-dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
|-dbus-launch --sh-syntax
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