particular updates don't come from Debian; I think the one you
want is this one from security.debian.org:
http://security-cdn.debian.org/debian-security/pool/main/s/sudo/sudo_1.8.10p3-1+deb8u6_amd64.deb
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> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 1:32 PM Chris Knadle wrote:
>
>> A logical place to check or the lack of BIOS virtualization features and
>> show an
>> error message for this would be within the .postinst script for the
>> virtualbox
>> package in
e in Debian
contains neither AFAICT.]
Filing a bug on src:virtualbox with severity 'wishlist' or 'normal' for this
issue to discuss it with the maintainer of the virtualbox package(s) seems a
logical thing to do.
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e-ground, which is to add an additional repository to
the sources.list file and add an apt Pin-Priority in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ for
that repository (of say priority 150) such that any installed packages from the
additional repository get updated, but any not-already-installed packages from
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issue, and now "feels similar" to the error you're receiving.
If by chance you've run into the same issue, that would be interesting.
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that was broken, and
before this process there wasn't a known path of how to deal with that. Matter
of fact that's how I started getting into Debian development in the first place.
It is unfortunately not uncommon to find a package [un|under]maintained such
that the pacakg
ong time. I've reviewed the resulting document sections
and it looks great to me.
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ling to replace package files and their .md5sum after checking a
replacement .md5sum file that comes with the overlay package. [This idea
comes from exploits on local Debian packages that I've heard about, BTW.]
The catch is that there'd need to be some way of triggering a
re-installation of the overlay if the package that the overlay is for is
reinstalled.
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As the debian-keyring package would come from the
main archive, that would at least have a trust path to the signing key
of the main distribution repository.
That's what I can think of at the moment anyway.
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On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:12:52 Patrick Matthäi wrote:
> Am 24.02.2014 20:50, schrieb Chris Knadle:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: normal
> > X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> >
> >
> > This package hasn't been orphaned, but
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to fix it [2]. I don't personally think
this was because of malice or conspiracy -- it's far more likely to be some
kind of technical misunderstanding or a design issue than anything else.
[1]: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/303
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On Friday, February 07, 2014 17:09:27 Ian Jackson wrote:
> Chris Knadle writes ("Re: Packaging of stunnel / MIA for Luis Rodrigo
> Gallardo Cruz"): ...
>
> > Well, here's the typical scenario:
> >- maintainer stops maintaining a package, for whatever rea
Leaving off the MIA team on this reply, mainly because I don't think this is
"news" to them per se and I'd rather not "spam" them.
On Friday, February 07, 2014 02:54:09 Sebastian Reichel wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 06:56:04PM -0500, Chris Knadle wrote:
&
Adding Gregor Herrmann to this because he and I were looking to work on
#672198 but we both were swamped with other work.
On Friday, February 07, 2014 00:02:16 Sebastian Reichel wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 03:27:51PM -0500, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 06, 2014
ny
activity for almost two years.
For cases where the maintainer is unresponsive for an extended period, I'd
recommend requesting a new version via a 'wishlist' bug, then releasing a new
version as a -0.1 NMU. Others (myself included) have done this successfully.
As alwa
On Friday, June 14, 2013 02:31:45, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:42:15 -0400, Chris Knadle
>
> wrote:
> >So right now I think that I probably just didn't know that this had been
> >fixed, because I haven't been using the "split file" co
On Thursday, June 13, 2013 08:16:02, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 07:25:34 -0400, Chris Knadle
>
> wrote:
> >On Thursday, June 13, 2013 06:41:16, Marc Haber wrote:
> >> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:17:11 +0100, Ian Campbell
> >>
> >> wrote:
>
trouble with this in mid-2003 on Debian Testing.
However the exact timeframe of the fix doesn't matter much -- what matters is
that it's fixed. ;-)
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cat_parts() uses.
On servers I'm still using the abstraction via the "single config" method, but
I've repeatedly been tempted to use a straight exim4.conf file. [I probably
should.]
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On Thursday, June 06, 2013 16:30:48, Roger Lynn wrote:
> On 06/06/13 14:00, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 05, 2013 15:35:14, Marc Haber wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:53:59 -0400, Chris Knadle
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >> >Attempting
On Thursday, June 06, 2013 13:18:39, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Chris Knadle [130606 14:53]:
> > I'm glad you asked this, because it prompted me to investigate further.
> > This was something I was told was commonly done, but it looks now like
> > it might be a misnome
On Wednesday, June 05, 2013 15:35:14, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:53:59 -0400, Chris Knadle
>
> wrote:
> >On Sunday, June 02, 2013 17:10:02, Marc Haber wrote:
> >> Exim's default in the packages is not to send authentication data over
> >> a
On Tuesday, June 04, 2013 13:40:56, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Chris Knadle writes:
> > On Tuesday, June 04, 2013 06:31:37, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >> That's not necessarily true as a result of it being a 1.0 format
> >> package (there were ways to use quilt patches w
On Tuesday, June 04, 2013 06:31:37, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On 04-06-13 04:48, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > Unfortunately no: the Postfix source package looks like it's in 1.0
> > format, so there aren't any quilt patches.
>
> That's not necessarily true as a res
z
dpkg-source: info: upstream files that have been modified:
postfix-2.10.0/Makefile.in
postfix-2.10.0/conf/main.cf
postfix-2.10.0/conf/main.cf.tls
postfix-2.10.0/conf/master.cf
postfix-2.10.0/conf/postfix-files
... [many other files patched]
The last set of lines above list the upstream postfix files that got patched.
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> > postfix), is already patched with debian patches? or I need compile
> > debian patches to that dir?
> >
> > Thanks and sorry for banal question :-/
> >
> > Pol
>
> Hi Pol,
>
> probably you should patch
On Sunday, June 02, 2013 17:10:02, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 15:06:40 -0400, Chris Knadle
>
> wrote:
> >I can understand why one would want this, but I can also understand why it
> >hasn't been done. Without first setting up TLS, this would involve
>
On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 20:02:42, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Chris Knadle writes:
> > On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 15:46:15, Russ Allbery wrote:
> >> That's exactly the point, and is why I would prefer not to write those
> >> notifications into a file that no one
nt being from the local machine only. However -- if
there are many repeat events of some error that all have to be separately
acknowledged, I can easily see how that could be very annoying.
> Oh, and a pony. Don't forget the pony. Or an otter, I like otters.
Otters are pretty cute looking. They remind me of gophers.
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On Friday, May 31, 2013 07:15:36, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2013 19:51:04 -0400, Chris Knadle
>
> wrote:
> >For Exim, the one thing I would want to change would be to ship a
> >configuration that by default created an SSL certificate and enabled
> >MAIN_TL
ID and my
response is "I don't use Facebook". It's a cultural divide that ends up
causing an electronic communications divide.
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On Thursday, May 30, 2013 15:48:14, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
> On 29/05/13 08:18, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > On Monday, May 27, 2013 21:02:22, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> >> > Now that we are done with systemd for the time being, can we have the
> >> > flame
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 05:11:06, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Chris Knadle [130529 08:29]:
> > - Exim configuration is more human readable than Postifx's, IMHO.
> >
> > Postfix configuration is concise but terse, and there are typically
> > block
problem -- this tends to end up with serious data loss.
>
> That's exactly the point, and is why I would prefer not to write those
> notifications into a file that no one ever looks at. (Which is why I
> don't find sending them to syslog much more appealing, since the average
>
at all.
# 'queueonly' - only a queue running daemon is started, no SMTP listener.
# setting this to 'no' will also disable queueruns from /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/exim4
QUEUERUNNER='combined'
The 'queueonly' option has a daemon that processes the queue for mail s
nfig options.
- Exim logging is cleaner than Postfix's, IMHO. Postfix seems to
"redeliver mail to itself" repeatedly which makes it more difficult
to grep the logs for a complete transaction.
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d systems are a special case
because local storage is a premium, and the local storage is likely flash
which has limited rewrite cycles. Even here my preferred solution here is to
increase the local storage enough to run exim4-daemon-light, because that's
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for the resolver myself.
> I'm not sure if it makes sense to recommend aptitude in its present state.
I don't personally feel this way, but I can understand why you do. It can
sometimes be tricky to work around package conflicts.
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the text-user interface of aptitude
> launched by typing "aptitude" is interactive interface. Am I right?
Yes. aptitude has an interactive interface available, apt-get does not.
I think the point of the note in the release-notes is to point users to
aptitude for an interactive termin
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 07:39:44, Michael Biebl wrote:
> On 27.02.2013 00:50, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > When this was brought up in the bug report, the response was
> > "network-manager can be installed, then disabled", but how to do that
> > wasn't docume
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 07:39:44, Michael Biebl wrote:
> On 27.02.2013 00:50, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > When this was brought up in the bug report, the response was
> > "network-manager can be installed, then disabled", but how to do that
> > wasn't docume
nager or wicd mentioned there, nor mentioned in the Installation Guide [3]
for Wheezy.
Suggestions?
[1]: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=688772#464
[2]: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata
[3]: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/install.txt.en
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On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:45:14, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:28:14PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 05:04:55, martin f krafft wrote:
> > > also sprach Holger Levsen [2012.10.16.0945
+0200]:
> > > > > We
Out of curiosity, how would a user /know/ whether a package has been built via
a buildd rather than on a DD's local machine?
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On Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:44:10 PM Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 03:10:01PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > Last I looked into this [which has admittedly been a while], Bind 9 was
> > the
> > only DNS server that had actually implemented DNSSEC, and the o
ve. [I can see how it does from an
administration perspective.]
[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-alternatives.html
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> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 07:59:00PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> >Related note: I likewise repeatedly have confusion over how to deal with
> >testing Network Status from within shell scripts for doing operations that
>
y
reaction, because they are both my choice. (There's an interesting 10-minute
video [2] discussing some of these issues which I think is worth watching.)
Finally, I want to make it clear that none of the above is meant as criticism
of any kind -- it's meant purely as an attempt to he
to think of it, the right thing for me to do
is to open up a Wishlist bug for this -- so I'll be doing that today.]
[1] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/wouter/ipcfg.git
[2] http://penta.debconf.org/dc12_schedule/events/953.en.html
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On Saturday, August 11, 2012 18:02:04, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 03:38:25PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> >> systemd may seem better in /most/ cases because it does have some nice
> >> features, but I don't think it's better in *all*
d up switching back to file-rc.
> Let's welcome OpenRC and see how it goes... This doesn't mean that
> we are choosing *now* what will be the *default* init system. Just
> that we are open to a new alternative.
If and when there are Debian packages available for OpenRC I&#
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:54:15, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:41:37AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > I'm confused concerning the above; the point of a VCS in this context is
> > to track changes to the source package, and the patches are themselves
>
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:52:02, Gergely Nagy wrote:
> Chris Knadle writes:
> > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 06:38:49, Adam Borowski wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:10:28AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> >> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 03:17:17PM +0900, Norbert
n/patches, and if Git has been told to
ignore debian/patches then it cannot bring those files back. Patching the
source can be an effort especially concerning documenting why the patches were
done and the source of the patches, so these seem like they'd be important to
track rather than something to ignore.
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On Sunday, May 13, 2012 13:41:13, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 12-05-13 at 10:51am, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 13, 2012 06:28:03, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > On 12-05-13 at 11:49am, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > > Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13
ouple of these things although I'm no longer using them -- Debian was
an extremely tight fit even when these things were new.
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ackages installed.
>
> That said, it is not _forbidden_ to track version numbers of Ubuntu,
> debian-multimedia.org and obsolete Debian distro releases.
Just to let you know:
debian-multimedia.org has just switched domain names to deb-multimedia.org
I think this was done to comply with De
multiple complaints.
FWIW there's a [debian-private] mailing list:
debian-private: Private discussions among developers
and this list is not archived.
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> while it is considerably harder to implement it on a mailing list (and
> probably impossible to make it entirely correct at that), something
> reasonably similar that works in most cases shouldn't be terribly hard
> to implement. People abusing the shortc
On Thursday, May 03, 2012 17:28:29, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 05:13:09PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > Drat. I forgot about APRS. APRS has become fairly popular among hams, so
> > much so that it now comes built-in to several radios, and even HTs
>
by hams to track
themselves and/or their cars and loved ones as they drive around.
The rigs used in cars likely aren't running a Linux OS, but the base station
nodes that receive and report the APRS traffic probably are, and as Debian has
been friendly to hams it's one of the
LUKS encryption, and I recently had to hard-power-off the
box.]
I was successful in getting DMA to send mail using SMTP AUTH over TLS to port
587. [The only snag was that I had to reconfigure Mutt to set
"envelope_from=yes", otherwise the sending email address was invalid, but this
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:55:20, Riku Voipio wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 12:48:10AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
...
> > The quoted 2010 survey [2] showed Exim was the most popular MTA (which I
> > found surprising), deployment of Exim growing just slightly faster than
&
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 04:53:03, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 12:48:10AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > I think it would be useful to describe what issue(s) there are concerning
> > 8BITMIME and why this is important. I've found some information [1]
> >
ending local outbound
mail to a server via port 587 over TLS with authentication, to retry sending
at increasing time intervals, using a "queue runner" but without a daemon
listening, and to notify the sender on a permanent failure. Thusfar I've only
been able to find all of that in a
lly is received in some other part of the country, all
over radio), etc.
Due to low data rates, packet radio isn't as popular today as it was in the
1990's, when telephone modems that were typically in use were also slow. [The
early 90's is when I was doing packet radio.]
[1] htt
On Friday, April 27, 2012 03:54:51, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 05:18:35AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > This is getting OT and a better question for debian-user, so this will
> > be my last post regarding this issue.
> >
> > On 27.04.201
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 23:18:35, Michael Biebl wrote:
> This is getting OT and a better question for debian-user, so this will
> be my last post regarding this issue.
Agreed. Same.
> On 27.04.2012 04:34, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > AFAICT I really want the 'quiet' lin
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 20:39:56, Michael Biebl wrote:
> On 27.04.2012 02:29, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > Specifically I'm looking to see the daemon startup console *text*
> > messages, but without verbose kernel bootup noise that is gotten if the
> > 'quie
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 16:45:08, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] Chris Knadle
>
> > The default of passing 'quiet' to the kernel is also apparently picked
> > up by systemd, which then suppresses the daemon startup messages. If
> > 'quiet' is rem
isy.
The 'systemd.sysv_console=true' turns on on startup messages when the 'quiet'
option is used, however the startup messages don't seem to be the same as when
'quiet' is turned off, even when also passing 'systemd.log_color=true'. I'll
inves
migrate at [4].
[1] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenRC
[3] http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/openrc.git
[4] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/openrc/
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s Reference, because I believe this view of NMUs is
fairly different than the current written language it contains. For starters
I'm going to email this suggestion to the Developer's Reference Team.
Thanks very much.
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg00486.html
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On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 04:04:49 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
> Chris Knadle writes:
> > I think the above is reasonable and fits the Debian "do-acracy"
> > methodology.
> >
> > At the same time, I also understand that this is a tough call to make.
> >
vy-handed". Perhaps in these cases, adding an additional
maintainer that is currently working on the package(s) and notifiying the
current maintainer(s) that this has been done seems reasonable.
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On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:42:33, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:28:33AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > The way section 5.11 is written, it implies NMUs are for bug fixes only.
> > It literally states "Fixing cosmetic issues or changing the packaging
On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:21:45, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:00:43AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > Debian has NMUs (Non-Maintainer Uploads) -- however this is mainly meant
> > for uploading critical bug fixes without having to resort to hijacking
what can one
do? I think the current answer unentiontially ends up being some version of
"get used to dissappointment"... so I'm asking the question in the hope of
figuring out a better answer.
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and likely to be longer. I believe
that timeframe makes the assumption that the work is correct, i.e. meets the
QA/multiarch/backportability requirements.
My personal conclusion to all this is simply "something's gotta give".
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itional 1.1.x packages are stuck
waiting because they do not have access to the pkg-wine git repo.
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On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 05:14:34, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 04/11/2012 06:12 AM, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > - if the init script left behind was part of a Debian package, deleting
> > the init script means removing part of the configuration from the Debian
> > pacakge
t of 'yes' is dangerous.
- the current administrator at the keyboard may not be the one that wrote or
installed the custom-installed init script, so the upgrade may need to be
completed before the question of whether the init script can be deleted has a
satisfactory answer, but an a
7;ve been using wicd for over two years and never had this problem, but I'm
also running a custom-built kernel (and have been for a long time).
Any idea why wicd would prevent your laptop from suspending? The best first
guess I have is perhaps a bug with the wireless card driver or fi
turns into a situation where a prospective new
packager then needs to figure out how to re-assign the ITP to someone else,
(because hijacking an ITP is just rude) before working through debian-mentors
to get a sponsored upload. This isn't simply theoretical, as a package I've
been slowly
g and building our package -
> AT> or to put it with your words "after it left the factory".
The proposed test would not have caught this problem, because the library is
built separately from apache2, and apache2 had not been updated AFAIK.
The bottom line is that even though it sounds
On Friday, March 23, 2012 19:23:11, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 06:59:52PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > On Friday, March 23, 2012 18:26:37, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > > On 23.03.2012 20:07, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > > > Right now the situation may be
On Friday, March 23, 2012 19:06:48, Michael Biebl wrote:
> On 23.03.2012 23:59, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > Lennart Pottering during his talk said that daemons needed to be patched
> > to fully work with systemd, but didn't say specifically what they needed
> > to be patched
On Friday, March 23, 2012 18:26:37, Michael Biebl wrote:
> On 23.03.2012 20:07, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > Right now the situation may be somewhat reversed, because in the general
> > case, daemons need to be patched to work correctly with systemd.
>
> This is simply not true.
[It's been a year
since the video, so perhaps some or many of them have been updated.]
But to answer your concern, someone said it best during one of the talks
during DebConf10: "Debian is software, and software can be changed." i.e
there's no reason to fear, regardle
e at LinuxConf in Australia last
March, which I found informative. This is linked to from [2], where there is
also a link to a PDF of the slides.
[1] https://blip.tv/linuxconfau/beyond-init-systemd-4715015
[2] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd
-- Chris
--
Chris Knadle
chris.kna.
y bugs in the future are caused by systemd/upstart!
The above case where I'm wondering about how systemd would handle it, because
it sounds like systemd might see that gdm/X failed to start and would try to
start it again repeatedly to no avail. [I have not yet tried systemd to test
for th
t least) two attack vector may be left (which is
> basically the same as when blocking whole repositories):
If you look at 'man 5 apt_preferences' you'll see that apt gives default
preference to installing the most up-to-date version. Downgrading a package
requires root access, a
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 17:13:55, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 12-03-18 at 04:48pm, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 18, 2012 13:23:13, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > > On 03/18/2012 09:50 PM, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > > > Some public discussion with the re
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 13:23:13, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/18/2012 09:50 PM, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > Some public discussion with the repository maintainer about this might be
> > warranted. Such would be worhwhile even if the outcome is not what is
> > desired, becaus
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 04:51:10, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Chris Knadle writes:
> >> On Saturday, March 17, 2012 21:53:18, Russ Allbery wrote:
> >>> Hence the Debian patent policy.
> >>>
> &
e legal framework
> that it has available while making public statements when that legal
> framework interferes with project goals.
The above explains the whole reason d-m.o exists.
However perhaps it also might explain the tenuous relationship d.o has with
d-m.o because d.o may need to
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Reinhard Tartler
wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Chris Knadle
wrote:
> >> On Monday, March 05, 2012 10:42:50, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> Friendly discussion with the maintain
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