On behalf of the community, thanks for the suggesting this Daniel! We are currently in the process of preparing deb packages for Jitsi Videobridge and our new conferencing app too, so maybe these would also help Debian's users to get better Free communication.
--sent from my mobile On 30 Mar 2014 11:44 AM, "Daniel Pocock" <dan...@pocock.pro> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > > > I'd like to propose that Jitsi be considered as the default messaging, > VoIP and webcam client for the next major Debian release (jessie). > This would mean it is installed by default in a desktop install and it > is the default handler for sip: and xmpp: URIs. > > Currently, Empathy is installed by default > > There are several reasons I am suggesting this and it is possible that > Empathy could address some of them before the release freeze in > November but we should be completely prepared to go with Jitsi if they > continue to be the leaders in this area. > > * Google dependency: Empathy is hard-coded[1] to use Google > media relay (TURN) servers for NAT traversal. It can't > be configured to use a TURN server on a Debian server, > even though we have three TURN servers packaged for our > users. This means that when Google shifts the goal posts > (as they already did, ditching true XMPP to promote > Google hangouts[2]) or when they have a service outage[3] then > Debian's users are left high and dry. There are also privacy > concerns, Google themselves report a 120% increase in the amount > of data they officially and knowingly give to their government[4]. > Jitsi supports any user-specified TURN server for XMPP and they > plan to support TURN for SIP too. > > * Convenient NAPTR discovery. Empathy does not autoconfigure > itself with services (such as Debian.org's own SIP proxy) that > have NAPTR records in DNS[5]. With Jitsi, this just works. > > * WebRTC integration (calling from browsers to Jitsi desktop). > This depends on new media stream features (e.g. DTLS-SRTP and AVPF) > that are not supported in Empathy yet[6]. > > * ZRTP - peer to peer encryption, like PGP for VoIP. Once again, > it has been in Jitsi for ages but is not in Empathy[7] > > * Upstream. Both Empathy and Jitsi upstreams are very > good developers. Jitsi seem to have an edge though. > Just look at how quickly they turned out the > JitMeet multi-party video conferencing solution[8] for WebRTC > browsers - it is a phenomenal achievement and delivered > in good time to help free software gain traction in the > emerging WebRTC space before any vested interests try to > monopolize the technology. > > The whole real-time communications (RTC) space is very important for > free software in general. If it fails to work conveniently and > reliably, the peer pressure of family and friends pull people back into > dangerous non-free solutions. Some of these solutions are a threat to > the whole concept of free software on mainstream desktops. With all > the recent attention on communications privacy, there has never been a > better time for Debian to try and fill this gap with a solution like > Jitsi on the front-end and the various free SIP/XMPP/TURN servers in > the back-end. > > To put it simply, the Jitsi team are blazing a trail in this area and > a Debian initiative to install Jitsi on every desktop will give them > more momentum and ensure more people can talk to each other in line > with our agreed definition of freedom. > > 1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=704234 > 2. > > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/05/google-abandons-open-standards-instant-messaging > 3. http://www.cnet.com/news/outage-hits-google-talk-hangouts/ > 4. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26786593 > 5. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=736149#10 > 6. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/telepathy/2012-June/006122.html > 7. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589778 > 8. https://jitsi.org/Projects/JitMeet > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTN94bAAoJEOm1uwJp1aqDRkgP/0jKZ2GfrIIxTy70p8b5PFDo > e9KKTkDTEINpwAdeyP2BpX5BLTEtuzgRZh+AQi7HZHbPAfCq8Cf24FjJfQyY0AgC > jDpzuX05ahNExPbpWOW4OGwinJ4S3kaPG5/o/IQC66y9tUdH0Lrh8AIvmvEgIJ9j > K0Nb669heMCdrn77ihbk9MtJlGvCE1KVOnrg+SrQLSEE1HsXk8iTXlyoGfE2T/ho > 24PxrKwhnjFoojIe0c2f/cMTMOL3prHyndYZB/Q86AiKExCow+6WtSwzb3po153i > USHFS/e+lA1+GquJXYiJq1FMUB+HiPaLer241yodqr7R5mqSD4igiF7/oQzywYId > OcxjqaLZVGxcqd5s+hmv2vCf3FXC21uDeBULZYP6TulELPGK1i6EJPpg0JqiWZbD > rE8Zs1a9W0zLOamc6jpMMx/rMC1Pml00Y69ek/c1uXW3YfxaEsiyV4cv+i99XU5B > hkkmQf5DbV+P3nQqblIkNPTydWlN/spsaLitWQsfr0cG3l4ZH+zCHKoNVl87g7Sy > CCv8FsnyhJy2wOdB//1OreDRmNK28UWwv+GM3Kf2/BI9oylbBmGbN8q3luy8KlQd > NHAledDQ0c2xEnCK0VF5NtOCQyY+cQriPcTUt1MSpq+m2mnqYj40VqBiDJITf/zz > xF+ESMftdl5n0cqmMNQJ > =UwwC > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > us...@jitsi.org > Unsubscribe instructions and other list options: > http://lists.jitsi.org/mailman/listinfo/users >
