to help.
Thanks,
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On the bts web interface, it's written that closed bugs are cleaned
up after a period of inactivity. Are they permanently erased?
I'd prefer that a complete history of all bugs is preserved.
Thanks,
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www
Josip Rodin wrote:
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 03:00:56PM +0300, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
On the bts web interface, it's written that closed bugs are cleaned
up after a period of inactivity. Are they permanently erased?
I'd prefer that a complete history of all bugs is preserved
be used in an unlimited fashion. Which is usual for a development
tool.
URL:
http://sources.redhat.com/cgen/
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Greg Stark wrote:
Just writing in your conclusions is useless 90% of the time. Your conclusions
may be right but the maintainer doesn't have ESP and can't necessarily deduce
where they came from and what the bug is.
I will try to assemble a test case as soon as I have some time. It's
been a
Branden Robinson wrote:
Ah, so you have a time machine which you used to tell your earlier self
that there was going to be trouble from me over bug 81397?
No comments. :)
You CC'ed your *initial report* to debian-devel and debian-x, before I had
anything at all to say on the subject.
Hi Martin,
please cc to me
Martin Bialasinski wrote:
I have developed a great liking for bug reports somehow.
Then you just need to develope some skill for a) analysing bugs and
writing useful reports and b) not going crazy when developers ask
further question if they don't have a
Colin Watson wrote:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ (hmm, I appear to
have that memorized - I end up grabbing it any time I'm at a public
Windows-based Internet terminal).
way cool. a mud addict friend of mine always used putty, now i see why :)
you can even do x-win
Branden Robinson wrote:
I can handle it just fine when clueful people characterize me as
psychotic. When professional ignorami like you get hysterical on two
mailing lists and the BTS simultaneously over a FAQ, because you upgraded
your production system to an unstable, unreleased operating
Hi
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
There is not enough information in this report to actually do
anything about debugging the problem. You don't even mention what
shell you are using as /bin/sh; what you have in /etc/environemnt;
what you have in the configuration files for the rot user,
This is how it looks like
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet borg
Trying 139.179.21.143...
Connected to borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr.
Escape character is '^]'.
Debian GNU/Linux woody borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr
login: root
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo $PATH
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 07:48:58PM +0200, Eray Ozkural wrote:
Such primitive reaction of yours is not likely to arouse interest
in prospective contributors; to join debian and to work with people
like you.
Fortunately, Eray, we're not all here for your amusement
Hi Matt!!
I don't report a bug due to misconfiguration. Let's see if what you
see applies, though.
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
First, man su to find out where su(1) is getting its environment from.
Searching for 'environment' on that man page, you can find this:
The current environment
Oliver M . Bolzer wrote:
You are still not getting it, arn`t you? It is not about the content at atll,
is about quoting PRIVATE mail in PUBLIC places without asking FIRST. Sorry
for shouting, but this has to be said.
Yes, I am getting it. But I'd always thought that content did matter. [*]
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
There IS a debconf question about it.. it's not like it just does it to you
without asking. Maybe the debconf priority of the question is too low if
too many people are missing it.
Do you think this is also what prevented display managers (xdm, gdm, wings
are the ones
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:34:04PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
If you call your insults to another contributor to debian deserved rant,
then I'd think you are either misinterpreting your status or unaware of
any social skills.
I'm sorry, WHO is misinterpeting
Russell Coker wrote:
I'm sure that Ben will welcome your contributions towards maintaining the
libc6 package. All you have to do is read the list of bugs, solve some, and
send in patches.
I'm not trying to bash Ben. He did a wonderful work in resolving many
bugs and generally keeping
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
Oh, and just to chime in on this little bit, I did not start maintaining
glibc until Aug 31, 2000 (my first changelog entry). So no, I have not
been sitting on this for 7 months. Get your facts straight.
And just to chime in, I appreciate the huge effort and many
Russell Coker wrote:
This is already being done for some packages. Check the maintainer address
on the gcc package for an example.
The thing that determines this is whether there are multiple people who are
skillful and willing to work.
If you want to be the second developer for libc6
Date:
Wed, 03 May 2000 22:03:20 +0300
From:
Eray Ozkural [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Package: libc6-dev
Version: 2.1.3-8
Severity: normal
The preprocessor macro seems to be undefined. There are also other
subtleties while using pthread lib
Peter Palfrader wrote:
Did you do this first?
No. I'm sending it here because I want it to be seen.
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Wanted to make an ass of yourself in public, eh?
Yep.
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ben Collins wrote:
WOW. Go fucking figure. YOUR BUG REPORT says
PTHREAD_ERRORCHECK_INITIALIZER_NP
while this info page shows
PTHREAD_ERRORCHECK_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP
argh. my first great mistake of the millenium. fuck me real hard.
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Comp. Sci.
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Indeed, you should feel lucky that even the non standard
PTHREAD_ERRORCHECK_MUTEX_INITIALIZER_NP is provided by the
implementation, even though not present in ISO/IEC 9945-1
Yep, I know what NP means. My trouble was something else but I
had thought that it was
Ben Collins wrote:
WHAT TO DO:
- Get a clue
- Read better
Roger that.
Getting a clue:
It looks like I was having a bad day; due to the nature of hack mode
I have done it incorrectly
Reading better:
Looks like I'm still having a bad day. If I can't strcmp then how
will I rightfully
Ben Collins wrote:
Oh, and just to chime in on this little bit, I did not start maintaining
glibc until Aug 31, 2000 (my first changelog entry). So no, I have not
been sitting on this for 7 months. Get your facts straight.
I'm really ashamed, Ben. Sorry, sorry, sorry. :{
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Eray (exa)
Now it's my unavoidable duty to find out what has caused me to file this
bug.
Thanks,
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Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
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www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
Tim Bell wrote:
Now I'm sure Ben is plenty busy with libc6 and whatever else he does,
and I don't mean to blame him for this slipping through. But the
thought that bugs are getting closed without being fixed is worrying.
That's my point. A package like libc6 is burdensome. It would not be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know about freshmeat (I only use it for the software search engine),
but IMHO Sourceforge suffers just as much or probably even more so from the
current Debian hierarchy problem: too generic or just overcrowded categories.
That's two of the problems I'm
Branden Robinson wrote:
You know, kinda like the way I went nuclear on Wichert when he broke vim.
You use vi? Emacs rules.
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:05:50AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
Martin. Yes. I tried. Do you think I'm a newbie or something? Why
do you think the file is owned by root? It's on windows partition...
Hold on ... this is an msdos partition mounted? If so, check
Chad Miller wrote:
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:41:28PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
BUT gmc (and most possibly mc) will not be
able to rename stuff, though you can move
files ;) It's a bug for certain!
Whoa. I don't understand that; what's the difference between moving
Hi Martin,
in the light of what has been discussed...
could you please replicate the bug and report
upstream?
thanks,
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www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
esoR ocsirF wrote:
Greetings,
IANAD, but I would like to suggest an idea that I had. There has been a
lot of interest in getting packages arranged by different
catagorizations, something like the menu. Most ideas that I have seen so
far seem to imply adding new fields to the debs, but his
Neal H Walfield wrote:
I think that this is a reasonable idea, however, it only addresses a
small part of the problem. I feel that a better solution would be to use
a similar method to perl modules: a hierarchal name space. In fact, we
We'll have better than that :) My tool will have a full
I'll be off for a few days, so I may not be able to answer the
posts in RFC: pools... thread.
Happy New Year!!
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Peter Eckersley wrote:
If my I want a file to be readable by everybody *except* user fred, I
can set permissions:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls -l plot-against-fred
-rwr--1 pde fred 1 Dec 27 17:12 plot-against-fred
Of course, I need root access to do it :(
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
This is a big nuisance. I spent months working on a project with
a shared directory without individual user groups. Worse yet, you
can end up with a CVS repository full of files with user-only
permissions (using a local CVS repositor, rather than remote).
Ok. Then
Hi Martin,
cross-posting to debian-devel because your assessment of the
bug is totally wrong.
Martin Bialasinski wrote:
Hi,
I can rename a directory to which I have permissions in shell
orion:mp3$ ls -ald Rob\ Zombie/
drwxrwxr-x2 root windows 16384 May 21 2000 Rob
Jason Henry Parker wrote:
At a guess, I would say this is a non-bug.
I'm saying that I can't rename a file using gmc which I *can*
otherwise rename. So your first guess in not very accurate.
You know how to rename something in gmc, yes? You do that
in the properties of a file, by editing the
Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
Try to reproduce what I do there. The permissions on parent
are irrelevant. That's a vfat filesystem. Permissions are
same everywhere anyway if you wonder.
Sorry sorry sorry sorry. Permissions on parent of course do matter
as you express. However, in this case
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
reall necessary?
No, but it's a good idea. It makes it much easier to work
Brian May wrote:
zsh has in /etc/zshrc:
[[ $UID == $GID ]] umask 002 || umask 022
My only dislike is it overrides my default setup in ~/.zshenv of 077.
It seems wrong to put this stuff in zshrc, that only gets used for
interactive shells. zshenv gets processed for all shells, but is run
Joseph Carter wrote:
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 07:54:00PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
personally the plain text database is one of dpkg's greatest assets.
its a royal pain to repair a binary database when it gets fscked. and
yes i have already been saved from a total reinstall through the
Hi Thomas,
I got back to working on ontology, and I'd like to give an answer to
one of your previous remarks. Your last e-mail was a bit harsh but
I'm hoping that you will find my view worthwhile. ;)
Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
I think that logic has a great deal to do with semantics.
I
Brian May wrote:
2. Get rid of maintainer scripts (don't ask me how...) so that
upgrading packages is guaranteed not to destroy your computer, even if
the package came an from untrusted source. This could be carried
further by saying no daemons can be started by UID=root without
express
Mistakenly sent to debian-devel. This is off topic.
Merry Xmas to you all!!
Cheers,
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Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Brian May wrote:
- harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist.
I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
reall necessary?
cu,
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Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
e-mail:
Anand Kumria wrote:
In future please send those kinds of emails privately.
mis-take. :)
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Nathan E Norman wrote:
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
reall necessary?
It's useful when you're in a development environment where
Brian May wrote:
exa == exa Eray writes:
exa Brian May wrote:
- harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist.
exa I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
exa annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
exa reall
Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:
Hello!
I'm starting work on a new linux package manager. The idea is to be able to
replace rpm, dpkg, apt, dselect (backend) with one,written mostly from scratch
and designed to be as simple (code, not features) and clean as possible. For
now, the work
Joseph Carter wrote:
I think if dpkg used some sort of hashed database index it would be a hell
of a lot nicer to people's CPUs and memory. Whether or not that requires
a re-implemenetation of dpkg or not isn't for me to say since I haven't
looked at dpkg's code in 3 years.
That smells
Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:
I wrote..
It should be re-usable as a library for implementing packages/modules
for PLs·
Erm, now I'm getting confused. I assume you mean that this package manager
should also be a framework for loadable modules. Isn't that way outside the
Branden Robinson wrote:
Wow, I may have to revise my opinion of France, then.
Isn't France the same country that tried to spy on Netscape's SSL
implementation?
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www:
Randolph Chung wrote:
The recent article in one of the Linux magazines about using netboot
and dhcp to automate installs in a computing lab was very
interesting. How can debian installer do something like that?
i didn't see this article, but in many cases these are done with ghost
I'm building a package that needs the source of another (existing)
package in Debian. You have to configure the source directory
of that other program. What's the proper way to do that? I don't want
to replicate the source dirs becase they take many megabytes.
Thanks,
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Eray (exa) Ozkural
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:27:43 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Avoid it like hell. This is really unpleasant. Please, please consider all
alternatives. For example, fixing the program so that it doesn't require the
other source.
I was wrong anyway, but I'll avoid that in the future :)
Thanks,
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For those who're keen on seeing the insight and sourcenav packages,
I've made some progress on the matter. I was unable to spare
any volunteer time due to a hardware crash this week and a problem
with the lame cable company the week before that, so there was
a small delay. :I
It seems that the
Yep, I ITP'ed sourcenav and insight.. a _minor_ problem with
the tcl/tk stuff, but I think I'll just wrap it up soon.
Thanks,
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Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
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To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to
I ITP'd this before, hands off :) Why don't you check the list BTW?
And the wnpp? That's why the BTS is being used, right?
Here are the bug report numbers for your reference
#68583: ITP: Insight
#68584: ITP: sourcenav
These are the ITP's I made some time ago, still working on them.
I've
I was running dpkg-scanpackages to construct a custom apt source.
This was the first time I really ran it, so I encountered the
peculiar style that I had to conform to.
This was what I had to write to make a Packages file in a flat dir:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html/debian$ dpkg-scanpackages .
You may use the following apt source for my ddclient deb and
the sather debs that I've fixed for woody.
deb http://139.179.21.143/~exa/debian/ ./
Please see ITPs on wnpp and on this list for information on these
packages.
Thanks,
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Thomas Guettler wrote:
But I am interested
what you think about this crazy idea to remove
version numbers (like debian2.2) from debian?
It's really crazy. Removing version numbers mean that the
dependency graph must be synchronized globally which is
impossible AFAIK. In addition to this, it
orion:exa$ galeon
/usr/bin/galeon-bin: error in loading shared libraries: libgtkembedmoz.so:
cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
What's happening? Where's this library? How could I install the package
if this is a dependency?
Thanks,
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If that lib's in M17, how do I get M17 debs?
Thanks,
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+ Eray exa Ozkural . . . . . .
+ CS, Bilkent University, Ankara ^ . o . .
| mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. ^ . .
Seems like my mirror has somehow not been
able to update. The latest I've got is M15..
Should check fmirror configuration.
Thanks,
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+ Eray exa Ozkural . . . . . .
+ CS, Bilkent University, Ankara
,
/usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin in user's default path.
That way, filesystem standard compliance is not disturbed, and the users
have those programs in their path by default.
Thanks,
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Eray Ozkural
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:16:16 Peter S Galbraith wrote:
Can anyone tell me how many CDs the official ISOs have for:
- i386 main + main/non-US ( + contrib ?)
- sources
I have a home made 4 CD set of binary i386 main + contrib + non-free
I don't know how many CDs sources take.
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Eray
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:36:26 Ben Collins wrote:
Official sets are main+contrib, which is 3cd's. This can include non-US or
not (only CD1 is different in that case). Sometimes vendors provide a 4th
binary CD with non-free (may or may not include non-US/non-free). The
source CD's are also 3
to run it.
I request you to re-consider the proposal. Supplying a symbolic link would
be better than putting the /sbin in user's path, because we may then decide
which programs in /sbin are needed by normal users.
Thanks,
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the archive
space or the manpower or extra trouble.
I disagree. From experience, I know that up to %50 speedup can be gained
in number crunching stuff. I'd suspect %20 could be pretty normal for
most CPU hungry apps, and the overall speedup would be significant.
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Eray Ozkural,
CS Dept
Michael Stone wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 03:27:18PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Ed Szynaka wrote:
> > > How does this account for drastic changes to something
like libc that
> > > might take weeks or months to shake out?
>
> Build daemons could take care of
J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 14:12:49 -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote:
try this hypothetical release method out:
there are two trees. let's call them devel and production. debian saavy
folks (maintainers) run devel. new packages are uploaded to devel where
they are
, but not at
the cost
of missing a huge proportion of good software out there. That's what
distribution is
all about, right? Giving people some choices.
Paul
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exa
Eray Ozkural,
CS, Bilkent Univ.
Hi,
I'm not a debian developer yet (and seems like I won't even attempt till I
feel that new maintainers are welcome), but I just wanted to comment on
how a re-organization might be done.
First of all, I'd like to state that dpkg system is all very well thought.
Speaking of modularity, package
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 02:34:55PM +0300, Eray Ozkural wrote:
I'm not a debian developer yet (and seems like I won't even attempt till I
feel that new maintainers are welcome),
If you've got a really useful package done up that you think would add
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