On 13.02.2020 09:14, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
Hallo Ulrike,
Quoting from there: "Master-slave is an oppressive metaphor that will
and should never become fully detached from history."
I don't think giving slaves new labels helps them in any way; they will still
be slaves.
You missed the
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Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Jul 28, Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de wrote:
Insserv will become essential together with sysv-rc, and is not
supposed to be simple to remove any more. Dependency based boot
sequencing is going to become the default and suppoted boot sequencing
method. I'll remove the
I have also some thoughs about DPL talk:
Debian is NOT an universal operating system.
Debian is going in direction to be an universal collection
of OSes.
1- One size fits all ?
IMHO the universal os seems to imply this. I don't agree.
We need different solutions. IMHO embedian is an example
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Gabor Gombas wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 06:39:53PM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
BTW it seems that all previous tries to remove the bug in bash failed.
Actually it's not a bug in bash at all. The bug is the combined effect
of how bash behaves and how the NSS functionality
Clint Adams wrote:
[not replying off-list because that seems counterproductive and arrogant]
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 03:49:15PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
Actually, if it's invoked as /bin/sh, it is supposed to be
Bourne-compatible. That's my experience with the current version:
Not
Raphael Geissert wrote:
Hello everybody,
This is a follow up to my previous thread, with a slightly different proposal.
What actually needs to be done is:
* Make dash essential, make it divert the current /bin/sh symlink by default,
make another essential package depend on dash. Prompt the
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Wed, Jul 22 2009, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
If we remove the essential flag, we have a nice feature:
the packages who needs bash need to be documented (via Depends).
Can you tell me how long did it take to move from /usr/doc to
/usr/share/doc?
I
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 04:33:21AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
Steve, let's take a step back and calm down.
Are you saying that your objection to engineering a solution where
dash doesn't need to be essential is that it's not worth the effort?
I *think* that was the point
Gabor Gombas wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:31:04AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I think you are not going far enough. Why should I have dash on
the system when my default shell is posh? or (gasp) zsh?
posh (or strict POSIX in general) is simply not practical, and zsh is
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org writes:
Raphael Geissert wrote:
Hello everybody,
This is a follow up to my previous thread, with a slightly different proposal.
What actually needs to be done is:
* Make dash essential, make it divert the current /bin/sh symlink
Russ Allbery wrote:
martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org writes:
also sprach Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [2009.06.25.0703 +0200]:
The government IDs are relevant because when we're collaborating on
an OS where there's minimal code review of the work done by
maintainers and a well-chosen
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le vendredi 19 juin 2009 à 10:05 +, Sune Vuorela a écrit :
+The usage of this format is highly recommended but as long as it's not
+endorsed by the Debian policy, it will not be required. It is however
And there is no plan to make it required in the future
What
Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Jun 02, Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org wrote:
- there is still a close windows in initram, and possibility
at early rc scripts.
No.
- /var is still not mounted, so programs could not write they status, nor
log failures
So programs which have such
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Y Giridhar Appaji Nag wrote:
I filed a lintian wishlist bug (#527363) requesting a I/W tag when non
documentation packages recommend documentation packages.
(...)
Would there be any objections to filing minor/wishlist bugs against these
packages? I am including a tentative dd-list
Marco d'Itri wrote:
On May 06, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Given that the default configuration is extremely simplistic and doesn???t
use a percent of either exim or postfix features, I still wonder why it
is not something like nullmailer or ssmtp.
Because it's expected from a
Luk Claes wrote:
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:06:26PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Carsten Hey cars...@debian.org [2009.05.05.1645 +0200]:
FWIW, Ubuntu did what I consider the right thing:
Ben Finney wrote:
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes:
On Thu, May 07 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 07 mai 2009 à 11:02 +1000, Ben Finney a écrit :
Those who want a read-only ‘/usr’ don't seriously try to leave it
read-only while installing or upgrading packages, do they?
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 12:10:54AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
So, does anybody still see reasons to continue supporting a standalone
/usr?
There had been lots of responses to that.
Yes, the most repeated argument has been mount /usr via NFS.
Unfortunately, nobody
John Goerzen wrote:
Julien BLACHE wrote:
John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote:
Hi,
I, for one, have heard just about enough of Hey developers, we're doing
$FOO, and it's already been decided, so put up or shut up from people.
I'd like a little bit more along the lines of Hey
Roger Leigh wrote:
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 05:41:06PM +0200, Stéphane Glondu wrote:
Marco d'Itri a écrit :
I know that Debian supports this, but I also know that maintaning
forever large changes to packages for no real gain sucks.
A partial list of invalid reasons is: [...]
How about: my
James Vega wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 03:16:44PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
I find no official documentation on format of debian/watch files.
man uscan
I mean in policy or reference or such official docs.
Now it is a generic convenience (for maintaner) file.
These is also no
James Vega wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 07:24:59PM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
James Vega wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 03:16:44PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
I find no official documentation on format of debian/watch files.
man uscan
I mean in policy or reference
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Michael Biebl wrote:
Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
For these two reason (power and security), I think Debian should offer
a debconf question, (medium priority), about disabling
Didier Raboud wrote:
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
No, users should file bugs if their HW is broken so that those can be
blacklisted too.
Are you joking?
For one year that user could not use debian stable?
BTW for one reported bug, there are 10 unreported bugs.
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Roger Leigh dijo [Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 03:49:54PM +0100]:
How shall I answer that?
I know that I myself use auto-mounting extensively and also don't expect my
father to type someting like mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
Absolutely, but this is a separate issue. You can still,
Bjørn Mork wrote:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org writes:
See the hal-disable-polling man page. In short: hardware support for MMC
media
change notification is broken.
Err. You are using the broken firmware argument both ways.
You should follow your own advice regarding the drives
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Michael Biebl wrote:
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Michael Biebl wrote:
Roger Leigh wrote:
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 05:52:41PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
Roger Leigh wrote:
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 03:55:15PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
hal does not poll removable disks, it does though poll
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
- Ability to recognize and render the following logical entities, in
decreasing order of importance:
+ unordered lists
+ ordered lists
really needed?
+ emphasis
+ strong emphasis
+ definition lists
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Robert Millan wrote:
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:27:19PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
License and copyright are one and the same.
GPL license relies on copyright law, just like almost any other open
source license there is, be it BSD, Artistic or
Samuel Thibault wrote:
I installed grub (and Debian). Trying the Windows hidden partition
(to install windows), grub stopped working (it was rescue mode, but
without capability to rescue something). Also rescue disk +
reconfiguring + update-grub did nothing.
Err, did you re-run
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Steve Langasek wrote:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 09:46:15AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Given that m-t-a is mentioned explicitly in policy, and that default-mta
will be a virtual package, I think this should be recorded in policy as well
- though if a clear consensus emerges on
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le lundi 16 février 2009 à 18:08 +0200, Teodor a écrit :
There is no need to create another standard, FHS is being continued in
the LSB project at linuxfoundation.org / freestandards.org. FHS was
the starting point for LSB.
Even if the LSB project has been criticized
Rondal wrote:
Hi,
UnrealIRCd has many licensing and code-quality issues which would
block it's inclusion in a Debian release.
I admit that the sourcecode is not of the highest quality, but I do not
see where it will block inclusion into Debian. About the licensing issues
I already said
kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz wrote:
__
Od: jackyf.de...@gmail.com Komu: kc.ubuntu...@centrum.cz CC:
debian-devel@lists.debian.org, de...@lists.debian.org Datum:
09.02.2009 18:15 Předmět: Re: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude
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Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:55:34PM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
I'm not so sure that the test should be packages.
The system is too different on early boot from a Debian system.
In what way? Note that a Debian
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Hi,
As I mentioned in my blog[1], I kindof like the suggestion that Bdale
Yes, I find the talk very interesting.
So, after more than twelve hours of boredom on an airplane and half a
night of not-being-able-to-sleep-due-to-jetlag, which is certainly
enough to think
Robert Millan wrote:
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 03:18:24PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
: Origin: Debian
: Label: Debian
: Suite: testing
: Codename: lenny
: Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:39:59 UTC
: Architectures: alpha amd64 arm armel hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel
powerpc s390 sparc
:
Russ Allbery wrote:
Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Therefore Lenny is not Debian, but a superset of it?
This is troubling. Do you have any suggestions on how to address this?
I recommend not attributing such judgements to the configuration files of
software packages.
Sorry???
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Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.9.5.3-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:59:10 +0200
Source: intel-microcode
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Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.20080401-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Source: lxr-cvs
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Version: 0.9.5+cvs20071020-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:08:15 +0200
Source: latencytop
Binary: latencytop
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.3-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:05:34 +0200
Source: latencytop
Binary: latencytop
Architecture: source i386
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL
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Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:56:34 +0200
Source: g15daemon
Binary: g15daemon libg15daemon-client1 libg15daemon-client-dev
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.9.5.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL
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Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:57:37 +0200
Source: inspircd
Binary: inspircd inspircd-dbg
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.1.18+dfsg-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian IRC Team [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo
Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description:
inspircd - Modular IRCd written in C++
inspircd-dbg - Modular IRCd written in C++ - debugging symbols
Changes:
inspircd (1.1.17+dfsg-2) unstable; urgency=low
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[ Giacomo Catenazzi ]
* init.d script: cleanup (remove bashism, add cron target, remove
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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:09:06 +0100
Source: g15stats
Binary: g15stats
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:18:15 +0100
Source: microcode.ctl
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Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.17-8
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo Catenazzi
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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:48:48 +0100
Source: intel-microcode
Binary: intel-microcode
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.20080220-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo
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* Fix the postrm script so there is no duplicate update-rc.d
* Fix the manpage so there are no more errors in it
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[ Matt Arnold ]
* Fix prerm so it works (Closes: #466924)
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[ Giacomo Catenazzi ]
* Added me as uploader
* Add again support of dpatch in debian/rules
* Build
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Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:12:26 +0100
Source: latencytop
Binary: latencytop
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.3-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL
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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:33:10 +0100
Source: intel-microcode
Binary: intel-microcode
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.20080131-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:51:39 +0100
Source: latencytop
Binary: latencytop
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED
-By: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description:
g15daemon - Screen multiplexer for Logitech G15 Keyboard
libg15daemon-client-dev - Development packages for libg15daemon-client
libg15daemon-client1 - Development packages for libg15daemon-client
Changes:
g15daemon (1.9.5.3-1) unstable
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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:45:54 +0100
Source: microcode.ctl
Binary: microcode.ctl
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.17-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED
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Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:19:53 +0100
Source: g15macro
Binary: g15macro
Architecture: source i386
Version: 1.0.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED
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Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:18:47 +0100
Source: apt-zip
Binary: apt-zip
Architecture: source all
Version: 0.18
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:42:59 +0100
Source: g15daemon-audacious
Binary: g15daemon-audacious
Architecture: source i386
Version: 2.5.4-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed
-By: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description:
g15daemon - Screen multiplexer for Logitech G15 Keyboard
libg15daemon-client-dev - Development packages for libg15daemon-client
libg15daemon-client1 - Development packages for libg15daemon-client
Closes: 463073
Changes:
g15daemon (1.9.5.2-2
-By: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description:
g15daemon - Screen multiplexer for Logitech G15 Keyboard
libg15daemon-client-dev - Development packages for libg15daemon-client
libg15daemon-client1 - Development packages for libg15daemon-client
Changes:
g15daemon (1.9.5.2-1) unstable
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:59:19 +0100
Source: g15composer
Binary: g15composer
Architecture: source i386
Version: 3.2-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED
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