Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-30 Thread James Westby
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:29:01 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Specifically, a behaviour of *recognising* that a package is in source > format 1.0. That's a fact of that package in that state, that shouldn't > change just because time has passed. > > In other words, a source package left as it was from

Re: Ubuntu packages for Debian

2009-12-15 Thread James Westby
On Tue Dec 15 16:26:12 + 2009 Steffen Moeller wrote: > Hello, > > I just received a request to upload a series of packages for Debian that > are already available for Ubuntu. > > Is there a policy document on how to give appropriate credit for the > original work? What if the version we are g

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread James Westby
Ben Finney wrote: > Ben Hutchings writes: > >> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:36 +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: >>> As I understand it, "A enhances B" has (more or less) the same >>> effect as "B suggests A". Thus, the reverse Suggests relation would >>> be redundant. >> A plugin "enhances" the a

Re: piuparts run by every uploader

2009-07-21 Thread James Westby
Jonathan Yu wrote: > I'd like to see a feature to use cowbuilder's chroot instead, though I > don't know of the technical challenges there. Certainly such a feature > would make it easier to use and thus run more often. That would be useful. It requires adding explicit support in piuparts (with th

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-08 Thread James Westby
Guido Günther wrote: > Which isn't a problem on patch-queue branches since you either can > recreate them anytime from what's in debian/patches or simply ammend the > commit. They're supposed to be rebased frequently anyway. "Supposed"? That's not true in my opinion. It would tend to be hostile t

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-06 Thread James Westby
Guido Günther wrote: >> I am concerned that just allowing to use git-format-patch will result in >> people not making an effort to markup other metadata in DEP#3 format, >> like bug numbers or reviewers and leave those as free-form in the body. > We can have Forwarded:, Origin:, Received-by: in thi

Re: RFC round 3: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-03 Thread James Westby
gregor herrmann wrote: > I agree that that's not completely obvious/intuitive for "newcomers" > but consumers of the patch format (command line tools, web > interfaces, ...) are free to expand them to URLs, and those > interfaces are probably more used than the raw source packages by the > people w

Re: RFC round 3: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-03 Thread James Westby
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > it looks like we quickly converged on something relatively well accepted. > Current version: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ Thanks for working on this Raphael, I am glad to see it moving. I have a few comments, but overall I like the current proposal. It is

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 21:37 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11782 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > This is a proposal to formalize a set of meta-information > > to be embedded in patches applied to Debian packages. Most > > patch systems allow for a free-from description preceeding > > th

Bug#532703: ITP: lazr.uri -- library for parsing, manipulating, and generating URIs

2009-06-10 Thread James Westby
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: James Westby * Package name: lazr.uri (binary package python-lazr-uri) Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : lazr developers: https://launchpad.net/~lazr-developers * URL : https://launchpad.net/lazr.uri * License : LGPL (3 or

Re: NEW processing

2009-03-25 Thread James Westby
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 12:32 +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote: > My personal experience is not consistent with this. > > I have several very small ocaml packages waiting in NEW for several weeks now. > I am upstream on these packages, and, honnestly, it takes few minutes to > check > them (only 3 file

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-09 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 12:30 +0100, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > Imagine an orig tarball with a config directory and an orig part-tarball > named orig-config.tar.whatever. The second tarball would overwrite > what's in the config dir of the first one when executing dpkg-source -x. > If you just store tha

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-09 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 09:24 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > If bzr-builddeb wants to provide the tarballs, they must have been > injected at some point (otherwise you won't provide pristine tarballs) > and you could record the additional information at that point. That is almost true, except for

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-09 Thread James Westby
On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 16:07 +0100, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > And how do you store that in a VCS if a second tarball includes files > that actually overwrite files of the main orig tarball. At build time > directories in the main orig tarball are supposed to be overwritten by > the part tarball but if

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-09 Thread James Westby
On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 17:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > There's nothing to specify here, dpkg-source uses all additional tarballs > that match the regexp (exactly like it identifies the .orig tarball > currently). bzr-builddeb will endeavour to provide the ".orig.tar.gz" for a format 1 package

Re: Support of new source packages in squeeze

2009-03-07 Thread James Westby
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 22:19 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > All in all, things are in a rather good shape but I still need some help. > While I tested extensively the dpkg-source side, we still need to ensure > that all our additional tools cope well with the new source package > format (*-buildpac

Re: Tracing bugs between distro's bugtrackers - Was: Re: Help bts-link be a more effective tool

2009-01-19 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:46 +0100, Olivier Berger wrote: > There would be some need for inter-distro work here, maybe... any ideas > on where to discuss that much welcome ;) distributi...@lists.freedesktop.org would be a good place to start. http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distribut

Depending on update-inetd [was: Re: Bug Sprint - Oct 25 to Oct 30 - Register and eat cookies]

2008-10-21 Thread James Westby
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 14:39 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I'm not sure that filing lots of bugs about missing Depends on > update-inetd really delays the release. Chris Lamb is fixing those bugs > faster than I file them anyway ;) You mean like this one? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepor

Re: Not stopping daemons, where are we?

2008-08-02 Thread James Westby
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 14:58 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > If you don't yet have the full list of affected packages, providing > the current list and saying it is incomplete and further bugs will be > filed as daemons are audited should be fine. Hi, Below is the current list that I was able to calcula

Re: Not stopping daemons, where are we?

2008-07-29 Thread James Westby
e to attempt to answer my own questions. On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 16:29 +0100, James Westby wrote: > Therefore I'd like to ask a few questions: > > 1. Are there any objections to the approach that have not already > been raised in the thread? It doesn't appear so. >

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-28 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 23:18 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > No, if the pages exist and other pages tend to treat them as > interesting (i.e. interesting pages link to those pages), Google is > working as advertised if it indexes and reports them. On unactivated account pages launchpad now sets so

Re: Not stopping daemons, where are we?

2008-07-07 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 17:05 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > OK. I don't not remember that. A pointer to that discussion would be > useful. You only included a link to a Ubuntu web page which is IMO not > directly relevant when proposing structural changes in Debian (or at > least: does not provide suf

Re: Not stopping daemons, where are we?

2008-07-01 Thread James Westby
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 15:38 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > I happened to see a similar bug filed against backuppc. > > How many of these bugs have been filed? > Are you aware of the Debian policy regarding mass bug filing [1]? > I have filed two (from memory). I am aware of that policy. > IMO this i

Re: Not stopping daemons, where are we?

2008-07-01 Thread James Westby
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 14:42 +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > As I understand it, there is nothing magic about the approach taken, it > > just doesn't install the symlinks for rc0.d and rc6.d, and expects that > > the process will be cleaned up. It also r

Re: Not stopping daemons, where are we?

2008-07-01 Thread James Westby
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 13:29 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 01 juillet 2008 à 11:55 +0100, James Westby a écrit : > > Given that in runlevels 0 and 6 there is an init script that terminates > > all running processes it is a waste to run an init script for each > > pr

Re: status of bazaar

2008-06-11 Thread James Westby
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 10:56 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Bazaar currently suffers from #454313, but has reverse dependencies > which prevent its sane removal from testing. It looks to me that bazaar > is unmaintained upstream, the last 4 uploads in Debian are NMUs, and > almost nobody is using i

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-02-25 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 10:19 -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > "Dirty history" is not only tolerated, but the *only* sane option with, > lesse... rcs cvs svn darcs tla baz (bzr?) bzr supports both ways of working, either cleaning up, or preserving the history as is. It has rebase support through a p

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread James Westby
On (24/10/07 09:50), Bastian Blank wrote: > > > 13 loop-aes305 > > Deprecated by dm-crypt. Not entirely true. However it is not going to go in to upstream, so the effect is the same. Thanks, James -- James Westby --GPG Key ID: B577FE13

Re: native NMUs

2007-08-14 Thread James Westby
would be confused by this, in that they wont know to unpack a source package that contains only a .diff.gz against a .tar.gz of the appropriate version number. Also, I guess you are opening up the possibility of creating a source package containing both a .tar.gz and .diff.gz, which will also co

Re: svn-buildpackage etc., mergeWithUpstream, and dpatch/quilt/cdbs again

2007-05-16 Thread James Westby
same. These handle most of this well. What I would like to do is come up with a system like one of these, but specialised for Debian packaging, so that the patches are stored under debian/patches, and the information about them is stored in the vcs. However I can't come up with a design that

Re: how to tell people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-_CONFIG_?

2006-10-08 Thread James Westby
, so that it wont be seen on installation, but if the user tries to reconfigure exim4 they will be directed to the correct package. James -- James Westby --GPG Key ID: B577FE13-- http://jameswestby.net/ seccure key - (3+)k7|M*edCX/.A:n*N!>|&7U.L#9E)Tu)T0>AM - secp2

Re: Making SELinux standard for etch

2006-10-08 Thread James Westby
On (08/10/06 17:22), Uwe Hermann wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 10:36:25PM +0100, James Westby wrote: > > If you have exim installed, you must either install postfix or write an > > exim policy, as none currently exists. > > > > Is this still th

Re: Making SELinux standard for etch

2006-10-07 Thread James Westby
s not supported (I'm not trying to trigger that particular debate). James -- James Westby --GPG Key ID: B577FE13-- http://jameswestby.net/ seccure key - (3+)k7|M*edCX/.A:n*N!>|&7U.L#9E)Tu)T0>AM - secp256r1/nistp256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Orphaning my packages

2006-09-18 Thread James Westby
package by the same author, and he is great to work with. I was wondering what the upload ettiquete should be. There is no now, version, no bugs, and the packaging is fine. Do I try and find a sponsor just for a change of maintainer, or do I wait until there is something to do? Let me know what you

Bug#385349: ITP: bazaar-webserve -- allow a bzr branch to be accessed via the web

2006-08-30 Thread James Westby
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: James Westby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: bazaar-webserve Version : Unknown Upstream Author : Goffredo Baroncelli * URL : http://goffredo-baroncelli.homelinux.net/bazaar-dev/ * License : GPL Programmin

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread James Westby
On (17/08/06 00:57), Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > On 2006-08-17 00:53:16, James Westby wrote: > > > >You could see if chmod u+x configure in your debian/rules fixes it, > >but > >it shouldn't be necessary. > > > How I am going to do that? configure i

Re: Not able to build a package with pbuilder

2006-08-16 Thread James Westby
flict between pbuilder and dpkg-buildpackage? > I think I remember someone metioning this before, and it turned out to be caused by something that seemed completely unrelated. Unfortuanately I cannot remember what. Helpful eh? James -- James Westby --GPG Key ID: B577FE13-- h

Re: RFC: ssl-cert2 design

2006-07-28 Thread James Westby
On (28/07/06 12:12), Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:53:22 +0100, James Westby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On (28/07/06 10:03), Lars Wirzenius wrote: > >> pe, 2006-07-28 kello 00:03 +0100, James Westby kirjoitti: > > But, yes, like all of

Re: RFC: ssl-cert2 design [Was: Re: Using the SSL snakeoil certificate]

2006-07-28 Thread James Westby
On (28/07/06 13:16), Lars Wirzenius wrote: > pe, 2006-07-28 kello 10:53 +0100, James Westby kirjoitti: > I don't like it when people make using helper packages de facto > required. And debhelper isn't standard (meaning that you can expect > everyone to use it), merely very c

Re: RFC: ssl-cert2 design [Was: Re: Using the SSL snakeoil certificate]

2006-07-28 Thread James Westby
On (28/07/06 10:03), Lars Wirzenius wrote: > pe, 2006-07-28 kello 00:03 +0100, James Westby kirjoitti: > > * Make it easier for package maintainers > > - One extra dh_ call and maybe one more file in debian/ > > How badly is this tied to debhelper? Any chance of desi

RFC: ssl-cert2 design [Was: Re: Using the SSL snakeoil certificate]

2006-07-27 Thread James Westby
ging is currently native, and the insertion of the lib in to the script will be removed, I just haven't done it yet. Thanks, James -- James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jameswestby.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using the SSL snakeoil certificate

2006-07-03 Thread James Westby
I am willing to work a bit on getting it in to shape, does anyone want to volunteer to help out and then create patches for all the necessary packages? James -- James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jameswestby.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Reclaiming automake

2006-07-01 Thread James Westby
g. While I'm out I'll be test building all the files with a .diff in the failures dir. And tonight I might test build those in the success/used dir for building without automake as I'm sure some of them don't need it. Good luck, James -- James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jameswestby.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Reclaiming automake

2006-06-30 Thread James Westby
; coordinate there. I've just filed #376047 too, so any bugs filed > should be made to block that one. > I will help out where possible. I will hopefully email you later with information on the packages that were referenced as [1] (snipped) that might help you out as well. James -- James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jameswestby.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using the SSL snakeoil certificate

2006-06-30 Thread James Westby
got a suggestion for a way to find the list of packages that generate a certificate in their postinst? That would help the decision. James -- James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jameswestby.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ITA: cyrus-sasl2?

2006-06-27 Thread James Westby
scribe to that mailing list, and get yourself added to the alioth project and then coordinate your work with them. James -- James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jameswestby.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Netatalk and SSL

2006-06-19 Thread James Westby
the same gnutls libs. Do you have a reference please? Is there a bug against gnutls? You might like to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss these problems further, and for any help that I can provide you with. James -- James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jameswestby.net/ -- To

Re: GPL-compatible libcrypto replacement?

2006-06-08 Thread James Westby
ls as libcrypto as it is not meant to be a drop in replacement, it is a whole different project. I don't think there is a GPL compatible reimplementation of libcrypto, but maybe I'm wrong. Why do you require the same symbols? Have you already written the code for libcrypto? If not what does it

Re: Real Life hits: need to give up packages for adoption

2006-05-29 Thread James Westby
rypt, libtasn1, libksba > (security-critical, some work required, having a team for these > packages would be ideal) I would like to be part of the team for these packages. James -- James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jameswestby.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w