Re: Coq packages in Debian : difficult transitions

2022-08-01 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, dem 31.07.2022 um 12:33 +0200 schrieb julien.pu...@gmail.com: > I have a little script that tells me the following packages needs to be > rebuilt when a transition has to be done ; for example: > > $ ./planif_transition.py mathcomp-finmap > mathcomp-finmap > mathcomp-analysis math

Re: Still (mostly) around after 25 years

2020-11-19 Thread Joachim Breitner
Am Donnerstag, den 19.11.2020, 00:19 -0800 schrieb Manoj Srivastava: > A little over 25 years ago as one of many who never knew a Debian project without you: It is good that that’s the only Debian project we know! Cheers, Joachim -- Joachim “nomeata” Breitner • nome...@debian.org • http

Who wants to take over gtk-vector-screenshot?

2020-08-08 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hello, almost a decade ago I create what I think was a pretty cool hack: A tool that allows you to take a screenshot of a running gtk3 program that produces proper vector graphics (SVG, PNG)! This allows you to * write documentation that has crisp and scaling images * copy’n’paste text (e.g. er

Bug#966206: RM: metainit -- ROM; Obsolete, unused

2020-07-24 Thread Joachim Breitner
Package: ftp.debian.org Severity: normal -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nudged by #965722 I think it’s probably best to remove metainit. I wrote that 13 years ago to alleivate the pains during the init system wars, but it never caught on, and is quite obsolete now. If someone disa

Bug#941893: RFA: pam-dbus

2019-10-07 Thread Joachim Breitner
Package: wnpp Severity: normal -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, pam-dbus (which allows you to configure a guest account where people can log in when you approve it by approving a notification popup) was a fun experiment from me years ago, but I never used it, and have not touche

Re: Call for volunteers: FTP Team

2017-08-18 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 17.08.2017, 23:02 +0200 schrieb Jonathan Carter (highvoltage): > On 17/08/2017 20:11, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > it has been quite a while since the last call for volunteers, so here is > > an update: Yeah, we still need people, and we want you. Well, that is, > > if you are

Re: Bug#863354: ITP: autoforwardportergit -- Tool for automatically merging local changes with new distro packages.

2017-05-26 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 25.05.2017, 19:03 +0100 schrieb plugwash: >  Description : Tool for automatically merging local changes with new distro packages. cool. Is that finally the answer to http://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/281-How_to_fork_privately_ and http://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/2

Re: Bug#840777: ITP: hotdoc -- documentation tool using CommonMark

2016-10-14 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 14.10.2016, 19:44 +0200 schrieb Andrew Shadura: > It was previously based on pandoc, and a pandoc backend will be > available again soon, but the dependency tree with a hard pandoc > dependency was just too deep. pandoc (the binary package) seems to have a reasonable set of de

Re: copyright precision

2016-08-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 10.08.2016, 17:30 +0100 schrieb Simon McVittie: > For software with a reasonably helpful upstream and a reasonably sane > build system, I've often found that jumping through the necessary > hoops to write debian/copyright takes about as long as the rest of the > packaging put

Re: Vcs-* and shared repos

2016-06-26 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 24.06.2016, 15:38 +0100 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 03:02:57PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > I never really understood why there is a games team; assuming that > > technically, almost every game is an island. (Ok, legal issues might

Re: Vcs-* and shared repos

2016-06-24 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 24.06.2016, 09:17 +0100 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 11:24:43PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote: > > The Debian Haskell team has migrated a while back from per-package > > repositories to a single repository which contains the packaging (only > > debian/) for the

Re: Bug#827555: ITP: circle -- Show byte statistics as an ascii circle graph

2016-06-17 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 17.06.2016, 21:24 +0200 schrieb Roberto S. Galende: > ok, maybe bytes-circle... > That also means to change the name of the command,  > or could I just change the name of the package? > thanks I would suggest to also change the command name, in order to avoid conflicts with a

Re: Bug#827555: ITP: circle -- Show byte statistics as an ascii circle graph

2016-06-17 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 17.06.2016, 19:38 +0200 schrieb Roberto S. Galende: > circle is a program that shows statistics about bytes contained > in a file as an ascci circle graph of deviations from mean in sigma > increments. sounds like a fun tool, but in the interest of keeping the package name spa

Re: Genesis of the git.d.o/gitlab.d.o confusion (Was: Next steps for gitlab.debian)

2016-06-08 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am 8. Juni 2016 22:47:24 MESZ, schrieb Julien Cristau : >On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 15:56:31 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > >> We’ll have to allow for some diversity, if only to try new paths (and >> then, eventually, cut off old ones). Especially as long as there is >

Re: Genesis of the git.d.o/gitlab.d.o confusion (Was: Next steps for gitlab.debian)

2016-06-08 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 08.06.2016, 13:46 + schrieb Luca Filipozzi: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 03:17:44PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > > Let me rephrase, then: can we have a plan that addresses alioth / git / > gitolite / gitlab / stuff rather than standing up yet anot

Genesis of the git.d.o/gitlab.d.o confusion (Was: Next steps for gitlab.debian)

2016-06-08 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 08.06.2016, 10:21 +0100 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:25:07AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > Thanks for the offer. It would be great if I have more hands to help with > > migrating git.debian.org > > Whoah there. Running an official Debian gitlab in

Re: Computing resources for DHG work

2016-05-29 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, minor correction. Our packaging does not use parallelism of the.compiler, but the rebuild-all-tool (dht make-all) can run multiple builds in parallel, using -j n. Greetings,Joachim Am 29. Mai 2016 14:43:54 MESZ, schrieb Sean Whitton : >Hello, > >I received an offer of some computing power

Re: Vcs-* and shared repos

2016-05-25 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 25.05.2016, 09:34 +0200 schrieb Raphael Hertzog: > I fear that adding such expressivity is encouraging bad practice. While > I can understand that a single repository can be convenient and easier > to manage than proper "mr" usage, it also feels wrong on many levels: > - you d

Re: Vcs-* and shared repos

2016-05-25 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 25.05.2016, 08:25 +0200 schrieb Stefano Zacchiroli: > I just wonder whether we should also take the chance of improving the > spec in a way that will allow, down the line, to automatically find the > actual packaging code also in other, more complex situations. Specifying > a

Re: git interface to snapshot.debian.org

2015-08-25 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 25.08.2015, 21:47 +0100 schrieb Ian Jackson: > (Although if a .dsc migrates between suites, the git history > is updated.) I don’t understand that. Is there really git history changed? Or just branches updated? Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner Debian Devel

Re: git interface to snapshot.debian.org

2015-08-25 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 25.08.2015, 13:59 +0100 schrieb Ian Jackson: > > If the answer is „Nothing is stopping, just that someone has to do it“, > > then I’m volunteering, as long as I can do most of it during DebConf. > > There are two problems that are stopping us doing this right away: > > - M

Re: Bug#796529: ITP: local-apt-repository -- Ready to use local apt repository

2015-08-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Sven, Am Sonntag, den 23.08.2015, 18:18 +0200 schrieb Sven Bartscher: > > Note that my package does _not_ touch or put files in /srv. It > > merely > > uses files that are put in a certain directory that, that the admin > > has to create first. Does that mitigate your concerns? > > A problem,

Re: Bug#796529: ITP: local-apt-repository -- Ready to use local apt repository

2015-08-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Marvin, Am Samstag, den 22.08.2015, 16:47 -0400 schrieb Marvin Renich: > I was under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that part of the > purpose of /srv was to allow complete admin discretion with the > directory structure, and that distributions were not to mandate any > specific directory

Re: Bug#796529: ITP: local-apt-repository -- Ready to use local apt repository

2015-08-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Jakub, Am Samstag, den 22.08.2015, 14:54 +0200 schrieb Jakub Wilk: > * Joachim Breitner , 2015-08-22, 13:58: > > With this package installed, every Debian package (i.e. a *.deb > > file) > > dropped into /srv/local-apt-repository > > Sounds like an FHS violation:

Bug#796529: ITP: local-apt-repository -- Ready to use local apt repository

2015-08-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Joachim Breitner -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: local-apt-repository Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Joachim Breitner * URL : http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/local-apt-repository.git

Re: git interface to snapshot.debian.org

2015-08-20 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2015, 11:03 +0200 schrieb Marco d'Itri: > I have not thought of recreating the history of the upstream > > versions > > correctly. I mostly care about the “what was in Debian” aspect of > > history, but it should not hurt to have the upstream branches as well. > I am n

Re: git interface to snapshot.debian.org

2015-08-20 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2015, 05:40 +0200 schrieb Marco d'Itri: > On Aug 18, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > > this is a follow-up to my question after the dgit talk today: It would > > be great to have a git view of the a package’s history in Debian. There > > I h

Re: git interface to snapshot.debian.org

2015-08-18 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 18.08.2015, 15:36 +0200 schrieb Joachim Breitner: > I really like to have a DAG that represents the history of the > package, and I don’t think it is a big complication. The bug tracker > does it also this way, I believe, to produce these nice graphs in the

Re: git interface to snapshot.debian.org

2015-08-18 Thread Joachim Breitner
[Dropping Peter from CC] Hi, Am Dienstag, den 18.08.2015, 15:22 +0200 schrieb Thomas Koch: > > > * Every source package from snapshots.d.o becomes, extracted with > >dpkg-source -x as usual, produces a git tree object. > >I’d probably simply ignore empty directories. > Please add a tra

git interface to snapshot.debian.org

2015-08-18 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, this is a follow-up to my question after the dgit talk today: It would be great to have a git view of the a package’s history in Debian. There is some possible overlap with dgit in the sense that if everyone had been using dgit from the start, then we would have that, but dgit’s objectives are

Re: Bug#790933: ITP: drive - Google Drive tool

2015-07-04 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 04.07.2015, 17:16 +0200 schrieb Sophie Brun: > Le 03/07/2015 21:46, Guillem Jover a écrit : > > drive is an extremely generic name in tech, please use something > > else > > when packaging this, both for the source/binary packages and the > > executables and other related file

Re: httpredir.debian.org, your mirrors redirector

2015-05-10 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 10.05.2015, 14:16 +0200 schrieb Raphael Geissert: > The Debian mirrors redirector, http.debian.net, is now hosted on debian.org > infrastructure under the name of httpredir.debian.org. will http.debian.net continue to work? Greetings, Joachim who for no particular reason fin

Re: Debian 8 "Jessie" released

2015-04-26 Thread Joachim Breitner
> Debian 8 "Jessie" released pr...@debian.org congrats everyone! Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner Debian Developer nome...@debian.org | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: F0FBF51F JID: nome...@joachim-breitner.de | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata sig

Re: Analysis of automatic packaging tools

2015-04-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 23.04.2015, 14:58 +0200 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum: > I've gathered some info on automatic packaging tools such as > dh-make-perl, python-stdeb or gem2deb on > >https://wiki.debian.org/AutomaticPackagingTools > > Please don't hesitate to correct or improve the wiki pag

Re: dose3 support for versioned provides (was: Re: Bits from the dpkg project: 1.17.x series, general news)

2015-04-19 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 18.04.2015, 23:54 +0200 schrieb Johannes Schauer: > for source packages that require versioned virtual packages, dose3 support for > this is needed because otherwise the affected source packages will remain > bd-uninstallable. But right now dose3 can only parse versioned provi

Re: Bits from the dpkg project: 1.17.x series, general news

2015-04-18 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, this: Am Samstag, den 18.04.2015, 21:27 +0200 schrieb Guillem Jover: > * Add support for versioned Provides [!]: > - Packages can provide a specific version, “virtual (= 1.0)” which will > be honored, previously it would just be accepted when parsing. > - Non-versioned virtual packag

Re: How to type ellipsis on Linux keyboard

2015-02-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 12.02.2015, 15:22 +0100 schrieb Jakub Wilk: > * Jonas Smedegaard , 2015-02-12, 12:54: > >I have¹ the following in my ~/.profile: > > > > setxkbmap dk -option compose:menu > > You might want to enable it globally in /etc/default/keyboard instead. > Documentation: > https:/

Bug#777643: possibly, some keyboard layouts should use U+22C5 DOT OPERATOR instead of U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT

2015-02-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 11.02.2015, 21:15 -0800 schrieb Nikolaus Rath: > > How dare you write ... instead of the proper … :-P > > I'm curious, how do you type that in conviently? I hope it's not copying > and pasting from a template file, and remembering (and/or finding out) > the X11 Compose sequen

Bug#777643: general: possibly, some keyboard layouts should use U+22C5 DOT OPERATOR instead of U+00B7 MIDDLE DOT

2015-02-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 11.02.2015, 23:32 +0100 schrieb Christoph Anton Mitterer: > Anyway, to finally end this ugly matter on the Debian side, I've > forwarded the pointer about this possible issue upstream, so that they > can choose to have what Debian didn't want to do - a proper look at the > mat

Re: Who gets an email when with bugreports

2015-01-19 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 19.01.2015, 19:41 +1000 schrieb Russell Stuart: > Debian's bug submission mechanism does not try to verify you control the > email address you are submitting from. At least trac allows you to put other people’s email address in the CC header, at least in some configurations. >

Re: Can/should we have an efi/efi-any platform architecture?

2014-12-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 12.12.2014, 12:07 + schrieb Wookey: > +++ Sebastian Reichel [2014-12-11 21:25 +0100]: > > How about building for "arch: any" and adding a build dependency > > on a new "efi-support" package, that is only available for > > architectures with efi available? I was about to s

Re: Bug#772736: ITP: pathlib -- Set of classes to handle filesystem paths

2014-12-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 10.12.2014, 17:17 +0100 schrieb Frank Brehm: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Frank Brehm > > * Package name: pathlib > Version : 1.0.1 > Upstream Author : Antoine Pitrou > * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pathlib > * License

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-04 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 04.11.2014, 14:26 + schrieb Ian Jackson: > Joachim Breitner writes ("Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging"): > > Am Montag, den 03.11.2014, 15:40 + schrieb Ian Jackson: > > > There are probably a lot of things missing. If you

Re: Punctuation characters in Debian packaging

2014-11-03 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 03.11.2014, 15:40 + schrieb Ian Jackson: > There are probably a lot of things missing. If you know about some > corner of Debian tooling which has exciting syntax, please add the > information you have. apt-get supports appending - to a package name in its argument to ins

Re: Proper notation for common licenses

2014-09-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, FTWIW, the copyright format specification https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/#license-field explicitly states: Use of a standard short name does not override the Debian Policy requirement to include the full license text in debian/copyri

Re: Why is package X not in testing yet?

2014-08-19 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 19.08.2014, 12:46 +0200 schrieb Sven Bartscher: > That's a bit more tricky than it seems, due to limitations in wget. > wget doesn't support the -N (only download if remote file if newer) > together with -O. So if I rename them wget won't be able to check their > timestamps.

Re: incoming.debian.org opens its doors to the public

2014-08-19 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 17.08.2014, 00:07 +0200 schrieb Ansgar Burchardt: > First, the archive used by buildds is now publically accessible in > http://incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd/. This location provides access > to all recently uploaded packages, split into individual suites, and > provides t

Re: Why is package X not in testing yet?

2014-08-19 Thread Joachim Breitner
Dear Pietro, Am Montag, den 18.08.2014, 23:51 +0200 schrieb Pietro Abate: > On 18/08/14 18:10, Sven Bartscher wrote: > > If we have a package, which doesn't migrate to testing, we usually > > check the "Why does package X not in testing yet?" page or the PTS. > > Usually they do a great job in te

Re: DD's cheat card (was Re: Bug#754416: makefs: FTBFS on mips: Must set MACHINE_ARCH to one of mipseb or mipsel)

2014-07-26 Thread Joachim Breitner
Am Samstag, den 26.07.2014, 15:59 +0200 schrieb Philipp Kern: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:58:59AM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > Am Montag, den 14.07.2014, 08:49 + schrieb Thorsten Glaser: > > > Kibi wrote: > > > >Joachim Breitner (2014-07-13): > > &

Re: DD's cheat card (was Re: Bug#754416: makefs: FTBFS on mips: Must set MACHINE_ARCH to one of mipseb or mipsel)

2014-07-14 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 14.07.2014, 08:49 + schrieb Thorsten Glaser: > Kibi wrote: > >Joachim Breitner (2014-07-13): > >>Am Sonntag, den 13.07.2014, 13:02 +0200 schrieb Cyril Brulebois: > >> >> [10]https://www.debian.org/intro/organization > >>not

Re: DD's cheat card (was Re: Bug#754416: makefs: FTBFS on mips: Must set MACHINE_ARCH to one of mipseb or mipsel)

2014-07-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 13.07.2014, 13:02 +0200 schrieb Cyril Brulebois: > > Maybe a “gift” job for a Debian Contributor would be to put together > > a “DD’s cheat card”, with infos about how to contact DSA, WB team, > > etc. – nothing about the how-to of packaging, but about the orga‐ > > nisational

Re: "thanks" messages on mailing lists/bug reports

2014-06-28 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 27.06.2014, 15:45 +0200 schrieb Sven Bartscher: > I recently started contributing to debian. > Before that, most of my writing with people I don't know personally > through the internet was on Stack Exchange. > On Stack Exchange, messages that only consist of thanking people or

Re: edos.debian.net is back as qa.debian.org/dose

2014-05-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Ralf, Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2014, 22:10 +0200 schrieb Ralf Treinen: > There are still some features that I would like to add, like automatically > recognizing cases that are related to ongoing transitions, or related > bug reports, but that is for the future. If you have other ideas of what

Re: Bug#748102: ITP: botch -- Bootstrapping helper

2014-05-14 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 14.05.2014, 14:15 +0300 schrieb Niko Tyni: > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:39:41PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 14.05.2014, 11:39 +0200 schrieb Johannes Schauer: > > > - shell scripts connecting the tools for meaningful operations >

Re: Bug#748102: ITP: botch -- Bootstrapping helper

2014-05-14 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 14.05.2014, 11:39 +0200 schrieb Johannes Schauer: > - shell scripts connecting the tools for meaningful operations > - analyzing cross bootstrap phase > - analyzing native bootstrap phase > - create a transition order cool. Can this also be used in a relative

Re: Non-source Javascript files in upstream source

2014-05-08 Thread Joachim Breitner
Dear Ben, Am Donnerstag, den 08.05.2014, 12:21 +1000 schrieb Ben Finney: > > Well, I say "Let's do something else, I'll have another look later". > > I am using https://wiki.debian.org/BenFinney/software/repack> for > another package, to remove non-source JavaScript files from the Debian > source

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-29 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 28.04.2014, 23:01 -0700 schrieb Manoj Srivastava: > Debian Haskell Group >haskell-tasty-golden >haskell-terminal-progress-bar related to dependencies on the systems locale, it seems. Not related to make. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner Debian Develo

Re: automatically maintaining/tracking repackaged upstream tarballs

2014-04-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 23.04.2014, 09:10 -0500 schrieb Gunnar Wolf: > Just note that, in order for Files-Excluded to work, you have to > declare the current version of the copyright format. Some days ago, I > had quite a bit of head scratching after I added this header to > Collabtive¹, only to find

Re: automatically maintaining/tracking repackaged upstream tarballs

2014-04-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 23.04.2014, 09:27 +0200 schrieb Daniel Pocock: > On 23/04/14 01:09, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > >> Given all the recent issues with popular packages containing minified > >> JavaScript and other sourceless files, I'm hoping

Re: --> APT's New Version <--

2014-04-02 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 02.04.2014, 13:49 +0800 schrieb Thomas Goirand: > I really first thought it has to do with the day of washing the lions > ceremony [1]. I'd suggest avoiding such a date for announcements in the > future. Anyway, I then checked the facts, and really ... \o/ !!! I very much agr

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 13.03.2014, 14:06 +0100 schrieb Andreas Tille: > > This would be quite annoying in my usual workflow. > > I hope you are aware that taring up two byte identical trees usually > does not lead to a byte identical tarball. Well, I was hoping that uscan would not simply create

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-12 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 12.03.2014, 18:37 -0300 schrieb Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer: > > Do you (or anyone) know if it repacks the file consistently? I.e. will > > two developers, who both use uscan to get the original tarball for the > > same version and with the same File-Excluded get ident

Re: jquery debate with upstream

2014-03-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 11.03.2014, 19:02 + schrieb Ian Jackson: > I think that if we want a more convenient and reliable way to avoid > them being used during the build, we should have a way to make > dpkg-source remove the files from the tree as it unpacks the source. debian/clean is sufficien

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 11.03.2014, 11:22 +0100 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: > Quoting Russ Allbery (2014-03-11 03:32:54) > > Paul Wise writes: > > > >> I'd suggest an acceptable workaround is to include the source in the > >> debian.tar.gz/diff.gz or to repack the upstream tarball, probably the > >>

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 11.03.2014, 10:34 +0800 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > nor mess with tarball repackaging (which I consider ugly, a cludge, and > > to be avoided if possible) > > Recent versions of uscan can automati

Re: jquery debate with upstream

2014-03-10 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 10.03.2014, 20:29 +0100 schrieb Philipp Kern: > as long as the code in question is not under a license that requires the > full, non-minified source to be reproduced and if the copyright notices > and license terms as potentially required by the license are present, I > don't

jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-10 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, I keep discussing the same issues caused by minified JS files (mostly JQuery) in their source tarballs over and over. Could maybe those who care deeply about this write a concise wiki page with all that upstream needs to know about our expectations, so that I can point them to it? That page sh

Re: Bug#735134: perl: rename(1) is ancient

2014-02-02 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 02.02.2014, 19:31 +0100 schrieb gregor herrmann: > On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:05:45 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > A > > > maintained version is available as a separate package, > > > libfile-rename-perl. > > This is a frustrating package name for an end user binary. Reminds

Re: init multiple instances of a daemon

2013-12-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, thanks for bringing this up. I was always very happy when a package provides good integrated handling of multiple instances, and for many years (silently) have the opinion that this should be provided by many more packages in Debian. My preferred solution is the one done by the OpenVPN packag

Re: Bug#730674: ITP: piwik -- Open Source Web Analytics Software

2013-11-28 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 27.11.2013, 17:50 -0800 schrieb Shawn Landden: > * Package name: piwik are you aware of http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=448532 and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=506933 and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609521 Greeti

Re: asking for advice: all dependencies incl. version numbers

2013-08-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Dear Illes, Am Donnerstag, den 22.08.2013, 17:47 +0200 schrieb FARKAS, Illes: > This is a researcher asking for advice. > > > I'd like to download/parse for each version of each debian package > which other package versions it depends on. > > > Do you think this information available in mana

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-07-20 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 18.07.2013, 14:45 +0200 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 11:35:46PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer > wrote: > > - Using the full source tarball. Saddly this means having to compile most > > of > > it in order to get the tools for buildi

Re: AGPLv3 Compliance and Debian Users

2013-07-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 11.07.2013, 13:41 + schrieb Jeremy T. Bouse: > I would find > having the Debian package install a tarball that could be linked to and > downloadable from the end user to be unnecessary duplication if all that > would be needed would be a link then why not just have th

Re: AGPLv3 Compliance and Debian Users

2013-07-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 11.07.2013, 17:48 +0800 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Lars Meyser wrote: > > This is also my personal reading of the license, I would like to hear others > > opinions before I start filing bugs. > > Perhaps you missed "if you modify the Program" in i

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-06-06 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 06.06.2013, 12:24 +0200 schrieb Philipp Kern: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 09:10:39PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: > > I think, most of developers are clever enough to define, whether the > > built failed "accidentally" and needs to be restarted, or it requires > > some fixing an

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 11.05.2013, 12:00 +0200 schrieb Christoph Egger: > Barry Warsaw writes: > > For the 13.04 release, Ubuntu made a change to its procedure whereby > > source-only uploads to the development release (e.g. raring) actually go to > > e.g. raring-proposed first. The builds are atte

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-11 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 10.05.2013, 16:05 -0400 schrieb Barry Warsaw: > For the 13.04 release, Ubuntu made a change to its procedure whereby > source-only uploads to the development release (e.g. raring) actually go to > e.g. raring-proposed first. The builds are attempted and only if they > succeed,

Uploading only arch:all (Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes)

2013-05-06 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 06.05.2013, 16:57 +0200 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow: > Maybe as an intermediate and imediate step we could switch to > uploading only arch:all debs for mixed packages. That is already > supported by DAK and the buildds and would drop a lot of locally build > debs. sounds inter

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2013-05-05 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, let me comment Am Sonntag, den 05.05.2013, 14:22 +0200 schrieb Joerg Jaspert: > Preparing Transitions: > Some base package(s) should be changed in a maybe incompatible > way. All of its reverse (Build-)Depends will be rebuild, updated, > and fixed in the PPA before they get t

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-03 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 04.05.2013, 00:10 +0300 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: > "Bernhard R. Link" writes: > > Once we drop that and only give people the right to modify the > > software we distribute but no longer the possiblity to do so > > on their own, the "Free" we are so proud on gets mood. >

Re: Bug#706048: ITP: nsnake -- classic snake game with textual interface

2013-04-24 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Alexandre, Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 20:09 -0300 schrieb Alexandre Dantas: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Alexandre Dantas > > > * Package name: nsnake > Version : 1.6 > Upstream Author : Alexandre Dantas > * URL : http://www.alexdantas.net/proj

Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-04-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 15:15 + schrieb Thorsten Glaser: > So, normally, you can only upload a new version of foo after bar gets > available on your regular mirror. (Making it temporarily available > locally for development is, of course, okay – just don’t upload that.) sounds good i

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-19 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 18.04.2013, 19:28 -0700 schrieb Nikolaus Rath: > Joachim Breitner writes: > > Am Dienstag, den 16.04.2013, 21:19 -0700 schrieb Nikolaus Rath: > >> Has someone already written a tool to automate this? I.e., parse > >> debian/control and run the

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 16.04.2013, 21:19 -0700 schrieb Nikolaus Rath: > Has someone already written a tool to automate this? I.e., parse > debian/control and run the appropriate apt-get command? The package haskell-debian-utils contains a program named apt-get-build-depends that does exactly that.

Re: Legal possibility of more open package reviews.

2013-04-10 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 09.04.2013, 17:54 +0200 schrieb Bernd Zeimetz: > > Suggestion #3: have a system where any other DD can review > > a package in the NEW queue, not only the FTP masters or the > > FTP assistants. > > That would include publishing the contents of the NEW queue, > at least to all

Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-04-02 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 01.04.2013, 17:06 +0200 schrieb Luca Falavigna: > Just for the record, FTP Team managed to keep the NEW queue around ten > packages for more than one year and a half, average processing time > was less than two days. I did a few uploads during that time and really enjoyed the

Re: RFC declarative built-using field generation

2013-02-08 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 07.02.2013, 20:51 -0400 schrieb Joey Hess: > Did occur to me later that another option would be to just generate > Built-Using for all build dependnecies when the field is turned on in a > package. This would list too much, but perhaps that wouldn't matter. > OTOH, perhaps t

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-02-07 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 06.02.2013, 16:31 -0800 schrieb Russ Allbery: > Normal > versioning problems that we just take for granted in C, such as allowing > the coexistence of two versions of the same library with different ABIs on > the system at the same time without doing the equivalent of static >

Re: Building and using shared libraries using gccgo

2013-02-05 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 05.02.2013, 17:03 +0100 schrieb Adam Borowski: > On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 04:36:44PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > It's not a matter of "a little infrastructural complication", it's about > having the slightest chance of reasonable security sup

Re: Building and using shared libraries using gccgo

2013-02-05 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 05.02.2013, 10:53 + schrieb Steve McIntyre: > Paul Wise wrote: > >On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > > > >> Assuming we ship Go libraries compiled as shared libraries, where do we > >> get the SONAME from? There is no mechanism for Go libraries to

Haskell and Built-Using (Was: Go (golang) packaging, part 2)

2013-01-30 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 30.01.2013, 16:52 +0800 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Iustin Pop wrote: > > I would add one thing here: Haskell/GHC also (currently) doesn't create > > shared libraries, and instead builds the program statically, but the > > Debian Haskell group still t

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 23.12.2012, 23:18 +0100 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: > > With my scheme, he could install i-want-all-prof-packages and the > > package manager will automatically install the missing -prof packages. > > Actually, that's not guaranteed, since your proposed > i-want-all-prof-packages

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-23 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 23.12.2012, 22:15 +0100 schrieb Wouter Verhelst: > No, that's not true; a Recommends is not a Suggests. That’s not what I said. But it is a suggestion in the sense that installing a package without the package that is Recommends is valid. > It seems perfectly suited for your

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 22.12.2012, 12:51 -0600 schrieb Peter Samuelson: > According to the package description, you only need the -dev package if > you actually plan to configure the window manager instead of using its > defaults. Which presumably most people do, so I guess the Recommends > makes se

Re: Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 22.12.2012, 14:39 +0200 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: > On Sb, 22 dec 12, 13:17:32, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > Users tend to fall into one of three classes: > > A. Users that, if they have foo-dev installed, always also want > > foo-prof install

Package variant selection policy using meta packages

2012-12-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Dear developers, I’d like to get opinions on whether it is ok to (ab)use meta packages, alternative dependencies and conflicts to provide package selection policy features to our users that are not supported otherwise. Here is an example (and it is the use case that I am considering): Haskell li

Re: Bug#696429: ITP: jhc -- a haskell compiler.

2012-12-21 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 21.12.2012, 08:21 +0900 schrieb Kiwamu Okabe: > Jhs is useful for me, now. > I am trying to rewrite NetBSD bootloader with Haskell. > > [..] Great, just checking :-) Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner Debian Developer nome...@debian.org | ICQ# 74513189 | GP

Re: Bug#696429: ITP: jhc -- a haskell compiler.

2012-12-20 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Kiwamu, Am Freitag, den 21.12.2012, 02:22 +0900 schrieb Kiwamu Okabe: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Kiwamu Okabe > > * Package name: jhc > Version : 0.8.0~darcs20120314 > Upstream Author : John Meacham > * URL : http://repetae.net/computer/jhc/ >

Re: Introducing codesearch.debian.net, a regexp code search engine

2012-11-06 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 06.11.2012, 23:10 +0100 schrieb Michael Stapelberg: > Joachim Breitner writes: > > Since you have all code extracted anyways, could you extend the page to > > allow for easy code browsing? Might be faster than "apt-get source; > > less ...&quo

Re: Introducing codesearch.debian.net, a regexp code search engine

2012-11-06 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 06.11.2012, 19:05 +0100 schrieb Michael Stapelberg: > I hereby announce a new Debian project: Debian Code Search. Great! > I hope you find it useful and would love to hear your feedback. Since you have all code extracted anyways, could you extend the page to allow for easy

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