Bug#988298: ITP: fidi -- (φίδι) service mock system for testing infrastructure

2021-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Package: wnpp Owner: Manoj Srivastava Severity: wishlist * Package name: fidi Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : Manoj Srivastava * URL or Web page : https://github.com/google/fidi * License : Apache-2.0 Description : (φίδι) service mock system for testing

Still (mostly) around after 25 years

2020-11-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
, and Debian still feels like family. Manoj -- Girls who throw themselves at men, are actually taking very careful aim. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C

Bug#898229: ITP: cloudsql-proxy -- Securely connect to CloudSQL databases

2018-05-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Manoj Srivastava * Package name: cloudsql-proxy Version : 1.11+git20180420.74e2f41-1 Upstream Author : Google Cloud Platform * URL : https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/cloudsql-proxy * License : Apache-2.0

Re: a poll for Dgit workflows

2016-03-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Mar 23 2016, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:57:59PM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 23 2016, Adam Borowski wrote: >> And creates a source package that does not correspond to my >> repository. I don’t need to have a .

Re: a poll for Dgit workflows

2016-03-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ian/patches seems like busy work. manoj -- Everyone has a purpose in life. Perhaps yours is watching television. David Letterman Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: a poll for Dgit workflows

2016-03-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
there is a contention that dgit is for everyone. I think it offers a useful publication medium; and if it allos other people to work with developers who do or do not prefer the repositories to reflect the tree the software is actually built from, then it is a net plus. manoj -- Li

Re: a poll for Dgit workflows

2016-03-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ving to work with version control themselves, I think that debian-single-patch is acceptable (well, in my opinion, of course). manoj -- Today is the first day of the rest of your life. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20

Re: a poll for Dgit workflows

2016-03-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On March 19, 2016 8:27:43 AM PDT, Daniel Stender wrote: >Hi, > >dealing with Dgit beyond a "simple" workflow (clone/fetch - make >changes - dgit push) I >wanted to poll for workflows towards new upstream tarballs and, >connected to that, the >treatment of patches. My work flow is probably not

{MBF}: Upcoming changes in flex to accommodate multiarch

2016-03-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ltsp Lucas Nussbaum pajeng (U) Manoj Srivastava checkpolicy (U) Marco d'Itri ifmail Marius Gavrilescu filters Martin Loschwitz ircd-ircu Martin Quinson pajeng Matt Brown srg Matt Grant ipsec-tools (U) Michael R. Crusoe mira (U) Michele Martone

Communicating about the change in behaviour for ar

2016-01-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
lease announcement for reproducible builds. I have uploaded a version of make the defaults to adding U to the ARFLAGS, but, on research and reflection, I would be open to reverting that and adding a NEWS entry. Manoj -- Anything worth doing is worth overdoing. Manoj Srivastava

Re: Ideas to improve dpkg/ucf with hooks

2015-11-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
I am open to suggestions. Manoj On November 16, 2015 9:38:23 AM PST, Marc Haber wrote: >On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:29:48 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >>On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Marc Haber wrote: >>> I am aware of that. That's one of my reasons for advocating giving >the >>> needed love to ucf

Re: Ideas to improve dpkg/ucf with hooks [was: Putting default config files in /usr]

2015-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Adding in his or callbacks would be easy enough. Do you have an idea of what you would need for your use case? Manoj On November 13, 2015 9:22:45 AM PST, Vincent Danjean wrote: >Le 13/11/2015 17:47, Marc Haber a écrit : >> Actually, I don't quite see why ucf would need hooks since it

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Huh. I have been waiting for emacs/lisp/systemd.el Manoj On September 12, 2014 7:49:45 PM PDT, John Goerzen wrote: >On 09/12/2014 02:27 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> On Sep 12, 2014, at 07:18 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote: >> >>> I'm looking forward for systemd-mta. >> >> It's inevitable. ;) >>

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-09-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hi, ill send out a concrete example when I get back home Manoj On September 7, 2014 8:41:45 PM PDT, Brian May wrote: >On 8 September 2014 04:05, Ben Hutchings wrote: > >> How does git-debcherry cope with the overlapping changes when >generating >> debian/patches? What can you do if it fa

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-09-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hi, no, I get one patch per commit, plus a fixup patch. no squashing. Manoj On September 7, 2014 8:53:04 PM PDT, Brian May wrote: >On 7 September 2014 13:30, Manoj Srivastava >wrote: > >> >> | I commit | Ephemeral gbranch conta

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-09-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, You need to bag Ron, or pull from the hit repositories directly. Manoj On September 7, 2014 5:24:18 PM PDT, Brian May wrote: >On 8 September 2014 04:05, Ben Hutchings wrote: > >> How does git-debcherry cope with the overlapping changes when >generating >> debian/patches? What can

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-09-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, You have to ask Paul Bremer that. Me, I am merely a happy user. I did grok it at one point, but I no longer recall that. Manoj On September 7, 2014 11:05:50 AM PDT, Ben Hutchings wrote: >On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 22:03 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 07 20

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-09-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Sep 07 2014, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On September 6, 2014 11:30:11 PM EDT, Manoj Srivastava > wrote: > I'll confess up front that I'm a neophyte when it comes to git. From > what I can tell though we've been using git-dpm for feature branches > in pk

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-09-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Sep 07 2014, Brian May wrote: > In another email by Manoj Srivastava: > >> That is really a matter of displaying history. The diagram > displays Git history, not the patches; when B21 is committed, > there is no > patch representing B12, however, that com

Re: Removing < 2048 bit keys from the Debian keyrings

2014-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 02 2014, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, Sep 02 2014, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote: > > >> I don't know how the *-cert-level options in gpg/gpg2 match up with >> that section RFC480. Actually reading the sections in the man pages it >> reads very

Re: Removing < 2048 bit keys from the Debian keyrings

2014-09-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
to resign the keys with the new options. manoj -- Winning isn't everything, but losing isn't anything. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-r

Re: Removing < 2048 bit keys from the Debian keyrings

2014-09-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
key on keys in companyname.com will take | effect. ` manoj -- Have at you! Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 08/26/2014 10:53 PM, Brian May wrote: On 26 August 2014 16:12, Manoj Srivastava wrote: http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Serializing_Git_Branches.pdf has a demonstration of the differences in history given an upstream and two feature branches with two commits each, using git-dpm and git

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hi, rebasing is not an option for any branch that is published, and is very ride to your downstream developers. if git-dpm requires that model of software development, one would have to consider it unsuitable for non trivial package development. I certainly hope that is not the case. Ma

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hi, in my analysis, features a and b are indeed long lived branches with multiple commits over time, independently evolving, until such time they are folded in upstream. I will address the other point when I an motte awake, I recognize that git-dpm creates ephemeral branches, but the com

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hi. http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Serializing_Git_Branches.pdf has a demonstration of the differences in history given an upstream and two feature branches with two commits each, using git-dpm and git-debcherry. Manoj On August 25, 2014 11:01:17 PM PDT, Brian May wrote: >Ok, so I

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hi, habit looked at both, I think I prefer got-debcherry. since it created a (IMHO) cleaner history, easier for me to understand and bisect. Manoj On August 24, 2014 9:34:29 PM PDT, Barry Warsaw wrote: >On Aug 24, 2014, at 08:33 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > >>git-buildpackage's gbp pq system

Re: Redefining critical bug severity

2014-05-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
me that braeking independent packages is covered under some other clause, though, s long as the whole system is not compromised. manoj -- The shortest measurable interval of time is the time between the moment I put a little extra aside for a sudden emergency and the arrival of that emerg

Re: Redefining critical bug severity

2014-05-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ta loss, or a security hole. Under the old reading, this is a critical bug, but not under the new reading. In my opinion, it remains a critical bug, to berak totally unrelated software. manoj -- "Rembrandt's first name was Beauregard, which is why he never used it."

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
both make and make-guile; currently without build profiles, and once jessie is out I shall add build profiles to the control file. In the meanwhile, of anyone is bootstrapping, and needs help, I would be happy to be of assistance. manoj -- "We're the weirdest monkeys e

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
rthwhile. make remains lean; make-guile is identical exept for the added guile support. manoj -- Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be SHOT AGAIN! Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
gled make upstream source. manoj -- "Of course power tools and alcohol don't mix. Everyone knows power tools aren't soluble in alcohol..." -- Crazy Nigel Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD2

Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ld bring. Thanks for listening manoj -- Perl itself is usually pretty good about telling you what you shouldn't do. :-) --Larry Wall in <11...@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> Manoj Srivastava 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C signature.a

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
g and fix. Not asking me has led to a gap in my disaster recovery preparedness :P I do not think silently swapping out a critical piece of infrastructure, where the underlying technology is so different, without asking is serving our users well. manoj -- To be abl

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-05-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, May 01 2014, Paul Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 10:55 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Opened bug in Savannah BTS: >> https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?42249 > I pushed a fix for this. See if it helps. I have built a new version into experiment

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
pdated and no error was detected. Opened bug in Savannah BTS: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?42249 -- Having a wonderful wine, wish you were beer. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Apr 29 2014, Felipe Sateler wrote: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:01:58 -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > >> Felipe Sateler >>csound (U) >>pulseaudio (U) Add to that: > Kari Pahula >gecode > Russ Allbery >krb5 (U) Missing

make 4.0: archive rebuild resulted in 73 packages broken (help wanted)

2014-04-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
xracer -- God, I ask for patience -- and I want it right now! Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Why Debian

2014-04-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ian works like my brain thinks and OS should :-) manoj -- "Cats are smarter than dogs. You can't get eight cats to pull a sled through snow." --Jeff Valdez Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C

Re: --> APT's New Version <--

2014-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
called deity. Or one of 64 million other names used for it in south asia. I think those other names are equally apt. manoj -- It's amazing how many people you could be friends with if only they'd make the first approach. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/>

A new version of make-dfsg has been uploaded to experimental, please test

2011-07-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
uploaded to experimental. NEWS.Debian has an incompatibility list. Testing this new version of make will be appreciated. manoj -- The minute a man is convinced that he is interesting, he isn't. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC

Re: Lintian check for missing desktop files?

2011-03-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Mar 06 2011, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 04:22:01PM -0800, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Do you have concrete data to add here, apart from speculation? I >> would be interested in such data (as the once and perhaps future >> maintainer of f

Re: Lintian check for missing desktop files?

2011-03-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, Mar 05 2011, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 06:52:39PM -0800, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > I was a fan of fvwm for years and I even have configured my xfce with >> > fvwm keycodes to have the same handling. However, if you ask me the >> > t

Re: Lintian check for missing desktop files?

2011-03-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, Mar 04 2011, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 09:27:07PM -0800, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > (isn't it only icewm and ratpoison and blackbox we might 'lose' by >> > simply killing the debian menu) >> >> And fvwm, &

Re: Lintian check for missing desktop files?

2011-03-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
gt; Down with the debian menu! Long live the fdo menu. > (isn't it only icewm and ratpoison and blackbox we might 'lose' by > simply killing the debian menu) And fvwm, manoj -- Mirrors should reflect a little before throwing back images. Jean Coctea

Re: Branching changelogs or not

2011-02-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ong tunnel with the legal department -- Comedy, like Medicine, was never meant to be practiced by the general public. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
nupg lets you use > subkeys to sign UIDs on other keys). I use my card for everyday uses, and to sign emails. Signing keys is more involved, though that has ony happened 15 times for me so far. manoj -- If you keep anything long enough, you can throw it away. Manoj Srivastav

Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files

2010-08-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
oad/ \ ftp://ftp.fvwm.org/pub/fvwm/version-2/fvwm-([\d\.]*)\.tar\.gz\ debian debian/urepack --8<---cut here---end--->8--- -- The sheep died in the wool. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
neself, one should guard oneself well. For one out of the three watches of the night a wise man should keep watch. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
The first is to ensure your partner understands that nature has root privileges - nature doesn't have to make sense. -- Telsa Gwynne Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, May 09 2010, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 02:45:39PM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> One of my concerns about upstart is that systems that want to >> use SELinux and upstart _have_ to also use an initramfs, which is yet >> another co

Re: Parallellizing the boot in Debian Squeeze - ready for wider testing

2010-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
for the details (I am arguably biased). I am also willing to re-work the patch to not link with libsepol, so minimizing the dependencies to libselinux. manoj -- There is always something new out of Africa. Gaius Plinius Secundus Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/>

Re: Best practices for development workstations

2010-03-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
gt; 2b. Xen, KVM, qemu, or VirtualBox I have a desktop (and a separate laptop) both running Sid. I have a virtual machine that runs SELinux in strict mode for package building on the desktop. I do not test on the build virtual machine; most of my testing is done on my desktop. manoj

Re: Status of kernel patch packages

2010-03-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
This should be pretty simple to do, really. manoj -- When one is overcome by this wretched, clinging desire in the world, one's sorrows increase like grass growing up after a lot of rain. 335 Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 A

Re: Invite to join the Release Team

2010-03-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
et that as you being a > coward who does not deserve to be heard in the future. > > Please be responsible and do help us out here. Wow. Are we back in kindergarten here? manoj -- 'Ooohh.. "FreeBSD is faster over loopback, when compared to Linux over the wire

Re: Bug#540215: Introduce dh_checksums

2010-03-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
clean system. For what it is worth, ucf can also tell dpkg about the files and hashes that it manages (it already stores the data, all that has to be added is calls to the hypothetical dpkg-register). manoj -- Oliver's Law: Experience is something you don't get u

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2010-01-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
's database can no longer be trusted to be accurate anyway. So the fact that the removal of the package is not registered in ucf's database makes no difference really (an untrusted DB expected to be out of date is now known to meet expectations). manoj -- "Even more amazin

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2010-01-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
atabase can no longer be trusted to be accurate anyway. So the fact that the removal of the package is not registered in ucf's database makes no difference really (an untrusted DB expected to be out of date is now known to meet expectations). manoj -- He who hesitates is sometimes

Re: quilt 3.0 source format and dpkg-source/dpkg-buildpackage

2009-12-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
n't that bad. As far as I can tell, git-bundle is not submodule friendly. I would appreciate 3.0 (git) supporting submodules; and I'd be willing to write code for that (once I am done relocating, that is) manoj -- With your bare hands?!? Manoj Srivastava <http

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Dec 09 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > Hi Manoj, > > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 12:12:36PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > For me this assumes that data created during this task belongs to >> > the package that requested the creation of the dat

Re: New Menu category Applictions/Multimedia

2009-12-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
g menu which are in the Debian one. > We can make a new thread for this. manoj -- There are new messages. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debia

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
historical data that it keeps. Next? manoj not really a novice in software design anymore. -- Pudder's Law: Anything that begins well will end badly. (Note: The converse of Pudder's law is not true.) Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 49

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Dec 07 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > Hi, > > (uhm.. I really hate it, if I can't hold the promises to myself I made; > in this case: not further discussing it, but still here is > another answer) > > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 10:04:14AM -0600, Manoj Srivastav

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Dec 07 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:47:11PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> In this particular case, what is the harm befalling the user? >> > >> > Well, I don't think that making an Operating System is

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 09:28:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: >> >> > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 11:44:39AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> Ma

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 08:35:38PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> > I never said that. The problem are not the files owned by the package, >> >> > but the files owned by ucf, which are modifi

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Norbert Preining wrote: > On So, 06 Dez 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> So, policy does not require dependencies to be around at least >> during purge. > > Ah yes of course, sorry. I was referring to the remove phase, where it > is also not

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, Dec 06 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 11:44:39AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Making a package essential in order to avoid a if clause in >> postinsts is very likely too frivolous a reason to pass muster, yes. > > I do not

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
t to call other utilities to clean up indirect mods, iff they exist. Which is what is happening here. If you want tohter things to happen, you have to make a case for why (a case that goes beyond I wish it were so). manoj -- To be, or what? Sylvester Stallone Manoj Srivasta

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
packages to be present during the `purge' | phase. ` So, policy does not require dependencies to be around at least during purge. manoj -- My only love sprung from my only hate! Too early seen unknown, and known too late! -- William Shakespeare, "Romeo and Jul

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, Dec 05 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 05:25:29PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 05 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: >> >> > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 06:37:45PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: >> >> It is the pack

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ot;You can't make a program without broken egos." Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
cy violation. > Or should we simply not care about packages modifying files (via > external tools) and not reverting those changes when beeing removed? If you are going to remove the file, why bother reverting any changes? manoj -- It is a poor judge who cannot award a prize

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
nt that? Should ucf be 'required' to avoid that? What purpose would that serve? manoj -- Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
manoj -- The Constitution may not be perfect, but it's a lot better than what we've got! Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Has Debian abandoned Python?

2009-12-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, Dec 04 2009, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 03/12/09 at 23:55 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 03 2009, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: >> >> > Right now we're working on updating the Debian Python Policy. Once we'll >> > be happy with the firs

Re: Debian as open project

2009-12-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, Dec 04 2009, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>         Nothing wrong with that. But when people are told to shut up >>  since Supe Speshul Sekrit discussions are going one betwen Really Ver >>  Important People, and the  people

Re: Has Debian abandoned Python?

2009-12-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
on in Debian has usually been held right out in the open. Going away and crafting what you think is going to be a finished policy and expecting wide adoption of the fait accompli is likely to have surprising outcomes for you. manoj -- Love the sea? I dote upon it -- from the beach. Ma

Re: Debian as open project

2009-12-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
urself is like trying to bite your own teeth. Alan Watts Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe&q

Re: Debian as open project

2009-12-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
on tops walks a lonely street; the "chain" of command is often a noose. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Bug#559134: ITP: shc -- a generic shell script compiler

2009-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ng accepting it), I am just commenting on the arguments being presented here. manoj -- No matter how many reporters share a cab, and no matter who pays, each puts the full fare on his own expense account. -- Edward P. O'Doyle Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/>

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
iting /etc/fstab? makes it easier to test the script out without altering current setup. manoj -- There's such a thing as too much point on a pencil. Allen Smith, "Let the Crabgrass Grow" Manoj Srivastava <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, Nov 28 2009, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 16:43 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 28 2009, Neil Williams wrote: >> >> > On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:56:01 +0100 >> > Patrick Matthäi wrote: >> > >> >> Am 28.

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
at belong to other packages is a policy violation; and even editing configuration files blonging to he package itself must preserve all user changes. It seems to be that a better approach is to inform the user, and let the admin make the changes needed. manoj -- Any clod can

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
when 'a' contains parentheses. Larry Wall in <199710211647.jaa17...@wall.org> Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.d

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
n it again, after #554682 is fixed. I would like to help, especially when it comes to support for submodules. manoj -- Youth had been a habit of hers so long that she could not part with it. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F2

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
otic titles like over master of the multiverse; we are called "Developers" for a reason. mannoj -- Don't make a big deal out of everything; just deal with everything. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
izens -- as long as the project still supports hppa. manoj -- "Mind if I smoke?" "I don't care if you burst into flames and die!" Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
j -- It would be nice to be sure of anything the way some people are of everything. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Nov 18 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:42:47AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : >> >> I beg to differ. This sounds like a maintainer that is not >> providing the support for their package, and needs to orphan that >> pa

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e things worth dying for. Kirk, "Errand of Mercy", stardate 3201.7 Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: possible MBF about Policy 8.2 (Shared library support files)

2009-11-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
n, you must not put them > | in the shared library package. Otherwise, several versions of the > | shared library cannot be installed at the same time without > | filename clashes, making upgrades and transitions unnecessarily > | difficult. > Manoj Srivastava >l

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
bugs. manoj -- Prejudice: A vagrant opinion without visible means of support. Ambrose Bierce Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
manoj -- We promise according to our hopes, and perform according to our fears. Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Nov 04 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 11:29:53PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> > Do you understand why people are getting annoyed ? > >> They have a lot of bloody gall to be annoyed thatpeople file >> bugs about serio

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Nov 03 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 01:01:02PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : >> >> when we do add such a lintian check to the blacklist, we also file serious >> bugs against those packages in the archive; and aggressively work to either

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-on-essential-package-without-using-version >> E: ftp-master: depends-on-build-essential-package-without-using-version >> E: ftp-master: build-depends-on-build-essential >> E: ftp-master: no-standards-version-field >> E: ftp-master: invalid-standards-version Bugs fil

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Nov 03 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 09:30:04AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > The ideal solution would be to have dak know the previous state and do >> > not accept _regressions_ wrt the previous set of fatal upload errors >> &

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
at will shortly be a dead path. > maybe Russ' solutions is the one NMUers would implement anyhow and > hence is overkilling to look for something more complicated. > >> This answer is independent of what we decide should go into that set of >> checks. > > ACK.

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
gs are filed Why had this not been done when lintian was warning them about these errors, then? manoj -- Trespassers will be violated! Manoj Srivastava <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To

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