Re: RFC: Why are so many debian packages outdated?

2012-07-26 Thread Miles Bader
I _knew_ Apple was behind this somehow! -miles -- Ocean, n. A body of water covering seven-tenths of a world designed for Man - who has no gills. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: glibc very old

2012-07-25 Thread Miles Bader
Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net writes: So... these functions were made almost an order of magnitude slower in the (overwhelmingly) common case, in order to handle rare and exceptional cases...? This depends on the processor. You should get a processor that handles rounding-mode change in

Re: glibc very old

2012-07-25 Thread Miles Bader
Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net writes: But with: ... int r = fegetround(); if (r != FE_TONEAREST) fesetround (FE_TONEAREST); y = exp(x); ... I only get a 9% slowdown. I suppose that withing glibc code, it can be lower. Makes sense... I can imagine the way

Re: glibc very old

2012-07-23 Thread Miles Bader
Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net writes: Based on a glance at the source, it seems like the math libraries were changed in lots of little ways between 2.13 and 2.16 [and it looks like the FPU-twiddling that made expf slow in 2.13 has been _added_ to the generic version of the exp

Re: glibc very old

2012-07-22 Thread Miles Bader
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: Is there a reason that Debian has such an old version of glibc, even in unstable? The current upstream version of glibc seems to be 2.16, whereas Debian has 2.13 (which is circa 2011-02). The basic reasons are that 2.14 was a dud of an upstream

glibc very old

2012-07-17 Thread Miles Bader
Is there a reason that Debian has such an old version of glibc, even in unstable? The current upstream version of glibc seems to be 2.16, whereas Debian has 2.13 (which is circa 2011-02). [The particular improvement I'm interested in is a (significantly) faster version of the expf function

Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-13 Thread Miles Bader
Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com writes: I don't claim to be a networking expert, but I believe half the conversation here is based on wrong or outdated information. My (personal) complaint about NM is that it doesn't correct correctly work with NFS mounts, I believe because it doesn't run at the

Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-13 Thread Miles Bader
Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu writes: if upstream considers a package a core part of a platform, recommends *is* wrong. Er, no. Upstreams are not infallible, and are often quite fallible... Upstream's view is a good _default_, but such judgements should be made based on the reality on the

Re: duplicates in the archive

2012-07-10 Thread Miles Bader
Félix Arreola Rodríguez fgatuno@gmail.com writes: But, ignoring the a desktop works fine without n-m thing, n-m makes more, much more easy connecting to wifi networks, espeacially for laptops. I suggest make Laptop task depend on n-m, in this way, n-m don't get installed on desktop

Re: Concerns and Challenges of Squeeze and Ongoing Elements

2012-07-04 Thread Miles Bader
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: I do not think there is much trolling. We need to discuss issues openly. It certainly _resembles_ a classic troll: long and vaguely insulting (under a surface veneer of politeness), yet curiously vague and information-free, despite its length, and

Re: Bug#678815: ITP: wmfs -- Window Manager From Scratch

2012-06-24 Thread Miles Bader
Arno Töll a...@debian.org writes: On 24.06.2012 19:15, Neil Williams wrote: This bug is *not* useful to anyone. Please close it and find an RC bug to close instead. I'm pretty sure this could be expressed in another tone. Especially since we welcome everyone (you know) and we have _no_

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useful

2012-05-28 Thread Miles Bader
Salvo Tomaselli tipos...@tiscali.it writes: This is indeed a valid point. But that’s no regression; /tmp has always been for small short-lived files, and /var/tmp for those that are not one of them or not both. You just made up this difference. No he didn't, it's common practice from

Re: Exported (ba)sh functions in the environment

2012-05-28 Thread Miles Bader
Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org writes: If you can think of a way to implement this same stuff (and remember, bash-completion supports a _lot_ more complex cases than 'kill') without adding 200 kB of shell functions to bash's runtime, by all means, do it and see how it works out. What would

Re: Packaging on GitHub ?

2012-05-28 Thread Miles Bader
Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.au writes: This is not a good idea: http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html MUCH seconded. Thanks for sharing the link! I don't see the problem, github is just a hosting provider. Unlike, say Bitkeeper, you are free to make git clones anywhere,

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs is fine

2012-05-28 Thread Miles Bader
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: Perhaps it should be extended to allow the directory to be below ~/ instead of below /tmp/. :) I don't think so. As other pointed out, your /home could be remote (over NFS?), and then slow, while /tmp is normally on your local machine, so moving the

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useful

2012-05-25 Thread Miles Bader
Serge sergem...@gmail.com writes: Every tool either supports setting TMPDIR=/var/tmp before running it or is buggy. Go fix these instead Do I understand you right? You suggest every tool that need large tmp files to use /var/tmp instead? That's not a new suggestion, it's been standard

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useful

2012-05-25 Thread Miles Bader
Serge sergem...@gmail.com writes: I'm asking for *popular* apps, that create files in /tmp, *never put large files* there, and become *noticeably* faster with /tmp on tmpfs? Is that even the issue, for the most part? My impression is that using tmpfs is just logistically simpler and safer --

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-05-24 Thread Miles Bader
Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org writes: ACK. /tmp on tmpfs is a nice hack (I use it myself!), but it's a terrible default. I can't say whether it's a good default or not (though it seems to work pretty well in practice), but the OP's argument is completely silly. Most apps use /tmp not for

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-20 Thread Miles Bader
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: There is smolt for that, but folks haven't packaged it for Debian yet: https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/ http://bugs.debian.org/435058 Hmm... from http://smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html: The statistics script is no longer running and creating new

Re: Making -devel discussions more viable

2012-05-08 Thread Miles Bader
Alexander Wirt formo...@debian.org writes: I am just speaking for myself as listmaster. But I don't think any DD has more right to talk on a mailinglist than anybody else. I won't support such a proposal nor want I participate in it. If you have a problem with someone on a mailinglist, report

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-04-29 Thread Miles Bader
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes: So, the real problem is: How do you define the boot process of a computer. For me it is when the kernel has been loaded by the boot media, memory, graphics card, etc initialized. Some modules are needed for boot, other modules can be loaded

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-04-29 Thread Miles Bader
Stephan Seitz stse+deb...@fsing.rootsland.net writes: Isn't mounting filesystems, which can depend on the network, part of the boot process? Yes, but how do you check if the network is configured and operational? - when the link is up? - when the IP address is configured (how do you check this

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-04-29 Thread Miles Bader
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de writes: Er, what? Please don't throw out silly strawmen... Stephan's points are valid. Just having a link on your favourite cisco does not mean that you are allowed to send packets anywhere yet. Getting a ipv6 address via radvd does not mean that you are able

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Miles Bader
Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes: For the grammer I personally would prefer it expanded, though I think it is more understandable as EBNF (Extended Backus-Naur Form) Grammar than the other way around. I agree -- in reinforces the fact that these are well-known terms which are often

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Miles Bader
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes: On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:22:06AM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: GLR means Generalized Left-to-right Rightmost deviation parser or maybe Generalized LR parser. EBNF is the Extended Backus–Naur Form. Acronyms like these - i.e. LL, LL(k), SLR, LALR - are

Re: Standard C Library complance test suite

2012-04-05 Thread Miles Bader
David Weinehall t...@debian.org writes: Consider the case where a legal department was worried about the code repository becoming tainted with uncontrolled or ill-considered GPL obligations. If the legal department is that incompetent it's about time they got replaced by more competent

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Miles Bader
Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez clo...@igalia.com writes: $ sudo apt-get remove network-manager* $ sudo apt-get install wicd wicd-curses wicd-gtk ^ wicd-kde ? $ wicd-curses And enjoy your network without the NM mess :) ... unless, of course, you're using

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-05 Thread Miles Bader
Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Milan P. Stanic m...@arvanta.net wrote: For me d-m.o was (and still is) valuable resource. Some codecs missing in Debian packages because of the policy (I don't blame Debian for that) and in that case d-m.o is best

Re: Bug#661565: ITP: nyancat -- Terminal-based Pop Tart Cat animation

2012-02-29 Thread Miles Bader
Jonathan McCrohan jmccro...@gmail.com writes: I certainly don't plan on uploading and abandoning this package, but given the high level of opposition to this ITP, guess there is little point pursuing it. There's some whining by the usual sorts, but why would anyone pay attention to them...?

Re: Default display manager should not be gdm3

2012-02-22 Thread Miles Bader
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: We should not still be using this software. Er, given that gdm3 works fine for many people, that seems excessive. Moreover, the choice of default display manager seems unrelated to its ability to support obscure tweaks -- indeed, it's very

Re: Use of the first person in messages from the computer

2012-02-09 Thread Miles Bader
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Finally, the reviewer revealed in the review that they're not a native speaker of English. Is it normal for l10n reviews to be conducted by non-native speakers of the target language ? Are we really so short of native English speaking l10n

Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning

2011-12-26 Thread Miles Bader
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes: And things may change yet again in the future. With Btrfs, one can have a single filesystem with multiple subvolumes. The subvolumes can be mounted independently, and also snapshotted independently, but have a common pool for free data, so unlike

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

2011-12-08 Thread Miles Bader
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: The 486-class processors that would no longer be supported are: 1. All x86 processors with names including '486' I'm still running the machine below, and it would be irritating to have to replace it. ... vendor_id : CentaurHauls cpu

Re: Bug#651093: ITP: libyui -- Qt, GTK+ and ncurses UI-Engine

2011-12-07 Thread Miles Bader
Björn Esser bjoern.es...@googlemail.com writes: So how shall I name it then? Given that there isn't actually any conflict, that the two libraries are in different domains (one C/C++, the other html/javascript), and that neither of them appears to be heavily used (though the lib used in yast

Re: Bug#651093: ITP: libyui -- Qt, GTK+ and ncurses UI-Engine

2011-12-05 Thread Miles Bader
Jaldhar H. Vyas jald...@debian.org writes: * Package name: libyui the package for the Yahoo! User Interface toolkit is called libyui-js which is bound to cause confusion. Can you rename yours to maybe libyastui or something? libyastui would seem sort of misleading -- from the

Re: directory under /usr/bin -- Ok or not?

2011-11-04 Thread Miles Bader
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: I don’t think Debian requests FHS to document something before we can use it. The real problem with the bizarre GNU invention that is /usr/libexec is that nobody knows what it is here for. It's not a GNU invention; I believe it derives from BSD.

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Miles Bader
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? Not AFAICT, I only read the documentation rather than the code though. Kinda surprising, actually; this has long been the #1 most horrible thing about aptitude, and one about which there's been plenty of

Re: Bug#644535: ITP: eclipse-autotools -- Eclipse Linux Tools: Autotools support for CDT

2011-10-07 Thread Miles Bader
Jakub Adam jakub.a...@ktknet.cz writes: With this additional support, a vast repository of C/C++ code can be checked out, built, and maintained under the CDT rather easily without having to resort to the command line. Nice! [Maybe having to resort is a bit judgemental in tone, though ...]

Re: *-config programs and multi-arch

2011-09-16 Thread Miles Bader
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes: AFAICT, the easiest way to handle all this is just to make a missing cross-pkg-config look like a missing pkg-config to the configure script. Then whatever logic the script may have for detecting the not pkg-config at all case, will do the right

Re: *-config programs and multi-arch

2011-09-16 Thread Miles Bader
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Miles Bader |When cross-compiling, there shouldn't be any default fallback for |pkg-config if a cross-pkg-config (${ARCH}-pkg-config) isn't found; |the current default behavior is more harmful than useful. You could argue this for any

Re: *-config programs and multi-arch

2011-09-15 Thread Miles Bader
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: | I don't know how pkg-config handles multiarch either, but however | it detects the desired host arch (is it just the PKG_CONFIG_PATH | variable?), your /usr/bin/foo-config shouldn't have to care. Your cross-toolchain is supposed to set up a symlink from

Re: *-config programs and multi-arch

2011-09-15 Thread Miles Bader
Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes: A brief browse of the pkg-config docs doesn't show any obvious user-level way of specifying an alternate host architecture. There's the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR, but that seems a little low-level. Also, PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR doesn't

Re: *-config programs and multi-arch

2011-09-15 Thread Miles Bader
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes: On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 at 16:53:26 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: Your cross-toolchain is supposed to set up a symlink from /usr/bin/$triplet-pkg-config to /usr/share/pkg-config-crosswrapper which will then DTRT. That's

Re: *-config programs and multi-arch

2011-09-15 Thread Miles Bader
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes: That's the missing piece of the puzzle: some sort of cross-toolchain package (which doesn't exist yet in Debian - but neither does a cross-gcc) should make the symlink x86_64-w64-mingw32-pkg-config - /usr/share/pkg-config-crosswrapper in your

Re: *-config programs and multi-arch

2011-09-15 Thread Miles Bader
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes: That's the missing piece of the puzzle: some sort of cross-toolchain package (which doesn't exist yet in Debian - but neither does a cross-gcc) should make the symlink x86_64-w64-mingw32-pkg-config - /usr/share/pkg-config-crosswrapper in your

Re: *-config programs and multi-arch

2011-09-15 Thread Miles Bader
I earlier wrote: However, the current state, where it pretends pkg-config is present, when it really isn't in a useful way, just fools the configure script into doing the wrong thing. AFAICT, the easiest way to handle all this is just to make a missing cross-pkg-config look like a missing

Re: relationships with GNU as an upstream - call for feedback

2011-06-30 Thread Miles Bader
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: I’m not a GNU package maintainer (unless you still consider GNOME a GNU project), so I’m not saying anything about GNU as upstream developers, but if you want to discuss frankly our issues with them, I hope you can talk about RMS and the handful of

Re: Conditional Recommends

2011-05-22 Thread Miles Bader
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Package: A Recommends: A-plugin-B {B} APT would be made to install A-plugin-B by default, but only if B is installed too. In addition, it would also have to install it while pulling B if A is already here. It would be very nice! I've

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-13 Thread Miles Bader
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes: the convention is that autogen.sh *does* call ./configure Huh? This is not my impression at all. I'm sure there probably are packages out there where autogen.sh calls configure, my general sense is that it usually doesn't. Rather, autogen.m4 usually

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-21 Thread Miles Bader
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: For example, Thunar works perfectly fine outside Xfce, but you don’t want to show it in KDE or GNOME. Why not? Some users may prefer it to the standard app for the desktop environment they're using. -Miles -- Politeness, n. The most acceptable

Re: Directories named after packages

2011-01-06 Thread Miles Bader
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: I'm hesitant to recommend moving the documentation to /usr/share/doc/foo when we've always put it in a directory named after the package in the past; I'm afraid long-time Debian users won't be able to find it. I'd certainly be confused! Being able to just

Re: debian can be better

2010-10-31 Thread Miles Bader
Mark Allums m...@allums.com writes: In my opinion, and at risk of starting a fruitless spiral into the flames, I think Ubuntu have jumped on the crazy train with 10.10 Maverick Meerkat. Just out of curiosity, what changed with that version...? -Miles -- Dictionary, n. A malevolent literary

Re: debian can be better

2010-10-31 Thread Miles Bader
Michael Banck mba...@debian.org writes: Just out of curiosity, what changed with that version...? Miles, you can lookup their release notes if you like, but this question is really unappropriate for this list. If such information is deemed too inflammatory, an off-list reply would be cool

Marius Vollmer [magit] MIA?

2010-10-03 Thread Miles Bader
Hi, He's the maintainer of the magit package, which doesn't seem to have received any attention in a long time. I sent email to him a few weeks ago, but haven't received any reply. Has anyone had contact with Marius Vollmer, or know what's up with the magit package? Thanks, -Miles --

Re: Marius Vollmer [magit] MIA?

2010-10-03 Thread Miles Bader
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: Usually it is a good idea to CC the allegedly MIA maintainer (done on this mail). Have you done any of the things suggested by the devref? http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/beyond-pkging.html#mia-qa Thanks for the tips -- I'm not a DD, so I

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2010-01-11 Thread Miles Bader
Python does seem a very poor choice for this kind of application, given the traditional bloat of a python installation, but I suppose they've made their decision... -Miles -- ... The revolution will be no re-run brothers; The revolution will be live. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Bug#560863: ITP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server

2009-12-15 Thread Miles Bader
Sebastian Otaegui fen...@gmail.com writes: Lamson's goal is to put an end to the hell that is e-mail application development. Rather than stay stuck in the 1970s, Lamson adopts modern web application framework design and uses a proven scripting language (Python). How about dropping all the

Re: Debian, universal operating system?

2009-07-26 Thread Miles Bader
Chris Lamb la...@debian.org writes: Agreed. IMHO, it is one of those phrases (along with Our priority is our users) that actually means extremely little in practice, except for generating lots of hot air with nobody agreeing. Our priority is endless surreal flamewars over minor technicalities

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-14 Thread Miles Bader
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes: And why should there be. The package it totally usable and functional as designed. Does it properly support aptitude / synaptic / etc yet? [The whole print a message on stdout telling the user he'd better do something else thing was dodgy beyond

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-14 Thread Miles Bader
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes: Does it properly support aptitude / synaptic / etc yet? [The whole print a message on stdout telling the user he'd better do something else thing was dodgy beyond belief, and clearly is not acceptable for testing.] Sure the support isn't

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-05 Thread Miles Bader
Yannick yannick.roeh...@free.fr writes: Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't multiarch do the same thing as ia32- apt-get but at the distribution level? My impression is that it's not necessarily the abstract idea of ia32-apt-get that's so wrong, but rather the apparently clumsy way it was

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-05 Thread Miles Bader
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: Although I use amd64, I have yet to want to install any 32bit software, so I'm not entirely sure what the use case is for it. While I agree in general, I do occasionally want a more fully functional 32-bit system infrastructure. Typically this is when I

Re: postfix as default-mta? [Re: Bug#508644: new release goal default-mta?]

2009-05-10 Thread Miles Bader
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes: and documentation all over the place that assumes the Debian default is Exim I think that's a weakness that should be addressed regardless of what happens with the default. [Of course changing defaults is one way to force the issue a bit, but of

Re: ignoring the CoC in regards to cc:s (Re: Can we ship sources of a PDF file in the Debian diff?

2009-05-08 Thread Miles Bader
Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes: You're arguing that a Reply-To header is harmful (not that I am convinced) That field is very useful. What's harmful is mailing-list software munging that field, which is for the author to set and for nothing else to fiddle with. Yup. Reply-To

Re: Bug#465809: ITP: hpt -- Creates a TCP tunnel through http and https proxies

2008-02-15 Thread Miles Bader
Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tunnelling utility through HTTP and HTTPS proxies to better fit the write style recommended in DevRef. Or with correct grammar: utility for tunneling through http and https proxies -Miles -- Generous, adj. Originally this word meant noble by

Re: Bug#465813: ITP: cyclone -- Safe dialect of C

2008-02-15 Thread Miles Bader
Michael Tautschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Description : Safe dialect of C I suggest C-like compiler with improved security checks I disagree - dialect is the proper technical term here. Though the actual thing being compackage seems to be a compiler, so: compiler for a safe

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-14 Thread Miles Bader
Dirk Eddelbuettel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if you appreciate using Debian as a development platform, the fact that CodeBlocks can't be built on it is IMHO a pretty critical problem. Why? Maybe because not being able to build and development platform don't go so well together?

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-12 Thread Miles Bader
Vadim Zeitlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if you appreciate using Debian as a development platform, the fact that CodeBlocks can't be built on it is IMHO a pretty critical problem. Why? -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath.

Re: How to cope with patches sanely

2008-02-05 Thread Miles Bader
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Umm. Why would any distributed version control system always need history truncation? I am not even sure that arch has such a thing; and I have never felt the need for such a beast. A distributed VCS that bundles in the whole

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-04 Thread Miles Bader
Dirk Eddelbuettel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wearing a Debian 'user' as well as 'developer' hat, I was stopped in the tracks a few days ago when I tried to look at some C/c++ IDE (code::blocks) which would not configure on my testing box due to a lack of wxWidgets 2.8. Not nice at all. I

Re: Bug#455730: ITP: lua-peg -- Parsing Expression Grammars For Lua

2007-12-12 Thread Miles Bader
Enrico Tassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Package name: lua-peg Version: 0.7 Upstream Author: Roberto Ierusalimschy [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~roberto/lpeg.html License: MIT/X Description: LPeg is a new pattern-matching library

Re: Bug#455730: ITP: lua-peg -- Parsing Expression Grammars For Lua

2007-12-12 Thread Miles Bader
Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it's going to cause a lot of confusion if you call this package lua-peg -- _everybody_ knows it as lpeg... Hence, I guess, the proposed name would be lua-lpeg, right? That seems best... The crucial thing, I think, is that somebody

Re: MTA comparison (postfix, exim4, ...)

2007-11-19 Thread Miles Bader
Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For me, exim4 is better: * less memory on run time * mailname is implimented as expected by the policy. Postfix has a reputation for being faster and more secure than exim. Why is it worth worrying about, though? Are the difference between exim and

Re: RFC: changes to default password strength checks in pam_unix

2007-09-03 Thread Miles Bader
Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you enforce longer passwords than people are comfortable with, you get weaker passwords (or poor password management practices). It's the humans that matter, not the machines. Exactly. If the system is excessively anal about what passwords it

Re: what happened to social contract?

2007-08-29 Thread Miles Bader
Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think your problem is that you have confused our priorities are our users... with our priority is everything icelinux believes might help some subset of our users. To which I can only say, get over yourself. Do you really expect any different from

Re: ITP: ttf-atarismall -- Very small 4 x 8 font

2007-07-31 Thread Miles Bader
Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone knows how to limit the fontsize to 8 only for a otf/ttf font, please contact me. (The original font is in bdf format) If this font is intended to be used at one fixed size, why bother with ttf/otf at all? Just ship it as bdf. Aren't the

Re: Is Andrew Lau (netsnipe) MIA?

2007-07-25 Thread Miles Bader
Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The packages he maintains and co-maintains are listed below. Most are GNOME packages he has not apparently uploaded. Some are already comaintained by others. The two of most concern are cinepaint and cupsys-pt, which are not comaintained. cinepaint has

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

2007-06-14 Thread Miles Bader
Klaus Ethgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So please calm down and come back to the reality and do not try to see nazis in all thinks in the world. Amen. I'm reminded of vehement protests over a public official's use of the word niggardly... -Miles -- `To alcohol! The cause of, and solution

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-13 Thread Miles Bader
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is not really understandable is why this stupid naming has been kept in Windows XP. Because nobody actually cares except control-freak types, and they're certainly not who windows is targetting! -Miles -- `To alcohol! The cause of, and solution

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-12 Thread Miles Bader
Magnus Holmgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No it doesn't. The SI binary prefixes are an abomination. Why - besides pronunciation? Well among other things, the end result of this whole mess will likely be to _increase_ confusion, rather than lessen it: Until now, in a typical computer app,

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Miles Bader
shirish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It isn't just ubuntu or debian but this needs to be done everywhere. No it doesn't. The SI binary prefixes are an abomination. Kibibytes? Christ... [Did they try pronouncing these horrid things when standarizing them?!?] -Miles -- We are all lying in

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Miles Bader
Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with the sounds stupid part, although I don't belive this is a valid argument. What I don't believe is your 80 colums argument. Could you please name a few of the *many* programs which would have to drop information, precision, or significantly

Re: APT 0.7 for sid

2007-06-10 Thread Miles Bader
Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since then, it seems like most users have switched to apt-get and synaptic, with hardly anyone using aptitude or dselect any more Really? I'd have guessed that most people used aptitude. I can't imagine anyone preferring synaptic to aptitude. Yeah,

Re: RFC: use readable $(cmd) syntax instead of unreadable `cmd`

2007-02-10 Thread Miles Bader
Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le't call this wishlist if we need to be pedantic. I would still call this a bug from a QA perspective. Quality is more than valid syntax. It's not a bug from any perspective, it's you trying to legislate your personal tastes. The place for that is a rant

Re: Message header fields

2007-02-05 Thread Miles Bader
Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Meanwhile, the message header is about the message *as an email message*, and the From field is supposed to be about the individual who sent the message. ... unless there's a Sender: header, in which case _that's_ the person who send the email, and the

Re: Debian Mirror with lzma compressed packages

2007-01-23 Thread Miles Bader
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few more examples below. I think lzma isn't the right thing for the archive. p7zip seems much faster, needs a lot less ram and compression is similar. .. Should you be using the -9 option? The lzma help output says this: -3 .. -9

Re: Debian Mirror with lzma compressed packages

2007-01-21 Thread Miles Bader
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few more examples below. I think lzma isn't the right thing for the archive. p7zip seems much faster, needs a lot less ram and compression is similar. ... Lzma: 34306752 Bytes Compressing : 19410 mrvn 0 376m 370m R 97.2 36.9 1:58.33

Re: localisation in system wide daemons

2007-01-21 Thread Miles Bader
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Merriam-Webster is falling into the old non-PC over-generalization that all inhabitants of India are Hindus. Merriam-Webster isn't falling into anything, it's a dictionary, and dictionaries describe usage. I know from reading old books that

Re: localisation in system wide daemons

2007-01-21 Thread Miles Bader
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hate to break it to you (and I do sincerely apologize for spoiling your innocence), but lexicons are not handed down to mankind on tablets writ in stone as some kind of divine donation. I was not claiming that. Indeed, I was claiming

Re: localisation in system wide daemons

2007-01-21 Thread Miles Bader
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The etymology of the word is not english: (Hindu + stan). When incorporating it into English, the word came with a well defined meaning. Apparently the english authors who used it didn't realize that, and I assume their usage reflects the

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-19 Thread Miles Bader
Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well we shouldn't keep ourselves hostage of stupid upstream behaviour, should we? Contrary to us, GNOME (in this case RedHat) actually employs usability experts. Who are we to think we know better? Actual users? -Miles -- `...the Soviet Union was

Re: Bugs in default GNOME etch?

2007-01-19 Thread Miles Bader
Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having eog and evince in the menu serves the I want to look at a file I know I have on my disk case. But you can open the file in the same number of clicks but with a better interface, by launching a nautilus window. Better interface for some people

Re: Removing sodipodi

2006-12-06 Thread Miles Bader
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eventually I guessed that inkscape was a newer version of sodipodi, and not a competing program. oh ... really? That's one confusion cleared up... -miles -- 自らを空にして、心を開く時、道は開かれる -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Downgrading the priority of nfs-utils

2006-11-07 Thread Miles Bader
Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The university here is opening up for Kerberos-enabled NFSv4 from the entire campus network RSN. Now you know one :-) [Isn't nfs4 rather different than previous versions, in that it's fixed some of the most egregious nfs bogosities?] I use nfs

Re: How should we deal with 'pointless-on-this-arch' packages?

2006-10-16 Thread Miles Bader
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's a bad example. X is a client/server system for a reason. E.g., there is no graphical hardware for s390, yet it can still be a good idea to use X software on s390 hardware with X terminals. Yeah, that's the thing -- while maintainers are usually

Re: ITP: adun.app -- a Molecular Simulator

2006-10-02 Thread Miles Bader
Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .app is pretty much meaningless. Therefore I'd prefer if you'd use a suffix with a less arcane meaning, like -gnustep. Does anyone truly care? Is it worth any effort to rename? -miles -- Unless there are slaves to do the ugly, horrible, uninteresting

Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?

2006-09-19 Thread Miles Bader
Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which OS combination does not define int to be 32bit on a 64bit architecture? long should better be 64bit then as many assume that you can cast a pointer into a long and back (e.g. timer in the linux kernel has a long for private data and not a

Re: Moving /var/run to a tmpfs?

2006-09-18 Thread Miles Bader
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is also clear that this is how many maintainers have understood it, because as you yourself have noticed, there are many packages that assume they can ship directories in /var/run and have them remain available after reboot. :) I think it's more

Re: Why not only support Sid and Testing?

2006-09-12 Thread Miles Bader
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/56. It says 76% of Debian users run unstable and probably a fair fraction of the rest run testing. I tend to doubt these numbers, especially if they come from a source that is known for its Ubuntu / Canonical

Re: Time to rethink ifupdown

2006-08-24 Thread Miles Bader
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Python (and any language that depends on vast amounts of installed infrastructure) seems a bit dodgy for a core low-level facility. It's a great language to develop stuff at a moderate speed. It may well be (kinda ugly though) -- but that doesn't mean

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