Bug#983523: general: some WWW sites no longer work neither in Firefox nor in Chrome

2021-02-25 Thread William Unruh
This really is a useless bug report. How can anyone try to duplicate it? You do not tell anyone who your internet provider is, How you try to get the "chat", what internet site you go to, and what kind of goods you select. In linux.debian.devel, you wrote: > Package: general > Severity: normal

Re: Move all to /usr

2011-10-11 Thread unruh
On 2011-10-11, Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove I am still not 100% persuaded that this would be easy to do, but at least I think that it has more merit than the old move all to /... How much complex would it be to implement this in Debian?

Re: Move all to /usr

2011-10-11 Thread unruh
On 2011-10-12, Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it wrote: --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Oct 11, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: We already discussed the idea of dropping support for a

Re: Unix Time Zone Format

2011-10-09 Thread unruh
On 2011-10-07, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes: That will be good, but we still need to make a lot of noise about this. It's ludicrous that any idiot with a lawyer can bring down a resource like the site hosting Olsen timezone data, even

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-05 Thread Bill Unruh
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Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-04 Thread Bill Unruh
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 03 mars 2009 � 10:41 -0800, Bill Unruh a �crit : Well, no, there is a problem. Whether that problem is due to a misreading of the law, differing laws (Under US, the concept of derivative work is a very important and strong concept

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-04 Thread Bill Unruh
source and libc must be GPL. And the same argument works for mkisofs linked against libschilly and libscg. MfG Goswin -- William G. Unruh | Canadian Institute for| Tel: +1(604)822-3273 PhysicsAstronomy | Advanced Research | Fax: +1(604)822-5324 UBC, Vancouver,BC | Program

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-04 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Bill Unruh un...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: Sorry, but that means that the concept does exist. The binary of a program is a totally different animal from the original. Not a shred of similarity in expression exists between the two. If I

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote: On Mon Mar 02 22:36, Bill Unruh wrote: Are you claiming that he does/did not have the right to release the major portion of the code under CDDL? (ie those portions that he did release in that way?) Ie, that he did not have the permission of those

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Unruh un...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: I believe that you mean the above to apply to mkisofs, not to cdrtools, which is a bunch of different program. The programs which are purely CDDL I assume you have no problem with distributing (despite your

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Bill Unruh
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Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: Particularly in the case of cdrecord, I don't believe there is enough of a case that we absolutely must have it that we should take a risk on the licensing. If, on the other hand, you want your software in Debian, you need to take into account our

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Unruh un...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: There is absolutely no problem with distributing mkisofs binaries that are linked against CDDLd libs that are a different work. Well, no, there is a problem. Whether that problem is due to a misreading

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: Bill Unruh un...@physics.ubc.ca writes: The license issue is problematic, especially since copyright laws differ in different countries. Derivative works is an especially tricky concept since it is so poorly defined in law, and the courts have been all

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Bill Unruh un...@physics.ubc.ca writes: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: ... No they are NOT irrelevant. For the users, that is the key. And surely it is the users ( the customers) who should be the prime consideration. I

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Mon, Mar 02 2009, Bill Unruh wrote: Agreed, both sides have to come to the conclusion that they are operating legally. On the plus side, Schilling would like to have his software distributed in the distros. He is also strongly of the opinion

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Unruh
not believe there to be any legal impediment to the distribution of the software. Debian has made clear that they believe that there is such an impediment. What, in as few words as possible, is the impediment? On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Unruh un...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: Agreed

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, James Vega wrote: On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 02:41:54PM -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: Thus, is it correct that the issue centers around mkisofs, a program which is under the GPL2 license and is linked with libscg, a CDDL licensed library? Is this where the dispute lies? If so

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 03 Mar 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: The OS exception in the GPL just allows you to omit things like libc from the complete source. The The OS exception in the GPL does not allow you to treat license compatibility between GPL code and system

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Russell Coker wrote: On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Bill Unruh un...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: libschilly as distributed by Debian is not a System Library, because it is part of the cdrtools work, does not implement a Standard Interface, nor is it included in the normal form of packaging

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: On Mon, 02 Mar 2009, Bill Unruh wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: . I believe that you mean the above to apply to mkisofs, not to cdrtools, which is a bunch of different program. The programs which are purely CDDL I assume you have

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: On Mon, 02 Mar 2009, Bill Unruh wrote: He certainly does claim to be the copyright holder and as having the right to license them under CDDL, and I think barring solid evidence to the contrary, one should accept him at his word. TPMDIR=$(mktemp -d

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-01 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Memnon Anon gegendosenflei...@gmail.com writes: But! From a user-only perspective: Do I think that the software Joerg Schilling provides is superior? Yes. I've tried it back when Debian still had a cdrecord and that, on request by Joerg