Re: Call for mascot! :-)
I wrote: Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse. Joseph Carter writes: That's been taken... Has been taken by... ? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
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Stampede Linux On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 06:31:52PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse. Joseph Carter writes: That's been taken... Has been taken by... ? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ _ Erick Kinnee| -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Burleson, TX| /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ Debian GNU/Linux Maintainer | http://www.debian.org I picked up a Magic 8-Ball the other day and it said 'Outlook not so good'. I said 'Sure, but Microsoft still ships it.' pgppuELxTxfl6.pgp Description: PGP signature
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I wrote: Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse. Erick Kinnee writes: Stampede Linux Stampede? I would have expected something to do with cattle. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
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Previously John Hasler wrote: Has been taken by... ? Stampede Linux iirc. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgpZDwf5TXel9.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 03:42:06PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse. Just like Stampede has it? Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
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First, we build this large badger... -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
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Phillip R. Jaenke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a backflip or two midair, and make a perfect reentry.;) Right, and they cooperate reasonably well too. Though our more consertive contingent might not like the fact that they also tend to be somewhat promiscuous. -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
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Alexander N. Benner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ok .. beat me for this .. but it does not realy meen 'good bye and thankyou for the fish' ! Dolphins are not more intelligent then paes or other animals. Intelligence referes also to somewhat of abstract thinking which no animal has. Um. There's a substantial body of recent psych and animal behavior research that indicates that this isn't nearly as obvious as you seem to claim. Even older research, like that mentioned in Sagan's Dragons of Eden casts doubt on the hypothesis that higher animals like dolphins don't have abstract cognitive processes... -- Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 1 Feb 1999, Rob Browning wrote: Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a backflip or two midair, and make a perfect reentry.;) Right, and they cooperate reasonably well too. Though our more consertive contingent might not like the fact that they also tend to be somewhat promiscuous. And who says Linux isn't promiscuous?! Can interconnect and/or interface with every single OS that I can think of, one way or another. *grins, and runs away before being pelted with tomatoes and other assorted fruits!* - -Phillip R. Jaenke ([EMAIL PROTECTED] | InterNIC: PRJ5) Look. It works this way. Why? Because the designer said so. Why? Because the designer is a moron. Let's fix it. --anon. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNrYP+jtUbefKjv6dAQGLcQP/VR4SjOS20W3jMBv7515fjS/iN1IAIiSe GNavvF3G3jIwYAuXg3N+7P8muwsnmR1b/XOI2walDpNk9ItqDZuZ/zT9K005hXvc rj3KJ7D1gGdtw4o/S9IuI31nOadr9BopW1UnCcQTUcBzIeuF4xZ30HFFKi1n6gF7 GnsmEBjZVQk= =YWJS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Squid is a better choice than octopus. Some of them actually do fly for short distances. Perhaps glide is more accurate. -- Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Squid is a better choice than octopus. Some of them actually do fly for short distances. Perhaps glide is more accurate. How about a balrog? They have *lots* of eyes; we wouldn't be limited to 8. -- ...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver. --Daniel Pead
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 30 Jan 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote: Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Squid is a better choice than octopus. Some of them actually do fly for short distances. Perhaps glide is more accurate. How about a balrog? They have *lots* of eyes; we wouldn't be limited to 8. Why not Yog Sothoth? *grin* Seriously, IMO, I don't see any reason not to stick with the Penguin. But if ya gotta have a new mascot, IMHO, I think a Dolphin would be nice. And I'm gonna justify it just to drive you all nuts. ;) Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a backflip or two midair, and make a perfect reentry.;) Anyways, back to getting procmail working. Just my $0.02USD. ;) - -Phillip R. Jaenke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) something is not right, but i don't think it's wrong. --anon. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNrPRBsES8LwwGtVlAQFcVQP/Y4GJnDOjmF+uHOesiBRwuGmn+QerKZGU 0RqbHimqBMBvYn1uHcPZDb0CY0Mgxpvv/4zHeclMNEQxJfhIp39HcbYZvzuMmi0m tNY7J1rJyZtHXmrJ+AouVt1SZ+GY7WHdkE3xiCWYxMUd4nH7UGPdjTJIrVQnr9DD 05QPoL8x8Qg= =ds8J -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 10:30:58PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 05:57:47PM -0600, Anderson MacKay wrote: The key here is cute. People don't want an ugly chicken-like creature that is clearly ready to attack at the slightest provocation. And furthermore, even if it -was- to attack, it really wouldn't do anything. Linus -was- able to give a convincing, -somewhat- alarming description of an angry penguin and why you wouldn't want to mess with him, but really ... chicken? Are you crazy? A mad chicken will pick your eyes out... Or bite your legs off. =) I think someone also recently proposed the Debian Squid. H. I still just don't think that has the necessary intimidation factor. :) And balrogs? Well, I guess that all depends on your interpretation of balrog ... but that definitely is intimidating. Open up a CD, hey look -- it's the Black Fire-Breathing Debian Beast of Death! ;) -- Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 30 Jan 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote: Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Squid is a better choice than octopus. Some of them actually do fly for short distances. Perhaps glide is more accurate. How about a balrog? They have *lots* of eyes; we wouldn't be limited to 8. Eh? WTF did you get that from? Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
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Previously Anderson MacKay wrote: Or bite your legs off. =) Nah, that was a cute little bunny rabbit :) We could then have conversations like this with our users: CART DRIVER: Bring out your dead! LARGE MAN: Here's one! CART DRIVER: Ninepence. BODY:I'm not dead! Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgpCDJ1e8QWVL.pgp Description: PGP signature
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hi Ship's Log, Lt. Phillip R. Jaenke, Stardate 300199.2241: Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a backflip or two midair, and make a perfect reentry.;) ok .. beat me for this .. but it does not realy meen 'good bye and thankyou for the fish' ! Dolphins are not more intelligent then paes or other animals. Intelligence referes also to somewhat of abstract thinking which no animal has. Greetings -- Alexander N. Benner And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. -*- The Bible (Mark 12:29-30)
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On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 12:53:28PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 10:14:15AM -0800, Chris Waters wrote: snip I brought this up on IRC, and got the following suggestions: 1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) 3. Monkey 4. Ant 5. Bee Yes, that you are.. I say we should go for a nice feline, perhaps a tiger cub? Then again, I'm quite insane.. =:] Zephaniah E. Hull. OK. I was thinking of this a lot the night after my exam (a nice way to forget I have one ;) .. and I think Debian mascot should in some way try to capture some of its essence. I feel some of the essence in keywords of Debian might be: volunteers, open source, collaborative work, freedom. I choose freedom, it's one that summarises it all, and trying to find an animal that, universally, would give the impression of freedom, I limited the choice to two bird species: - eagles, - hawks I like the dragon idea but I feel the dragon symbol is not all that universal, and many cultures tend to associate dragons with evil, as a matter of fact when culture talks about dragons (in a non-DD world ;) there's always a hero that goes out to kill it for its evil deeds. Even though I'm a Dragonlance/DD/Ars Magica fan, I would not choose the dragon because it's symbolism is somewhat limited... I *would* choose any of the above because I feel they capture Debian's spirit better. Picture a soaring royal eagle, for example, flying wild in a blue sky, there's nothing which gives a bigger sensation of freedom. And an eagle is menacing, and powerful, which Debian also is. So that's my proposal, sorry for being so mystical, I'm in exam days you know :) Javi
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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, M.C. Vernon wrote: On 30 Jan 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote: Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Squid is a better choice than octopus. Some of them actually do fly for short distances. Perhaps glide is more accurate. What about a hybrid. An octupus/squid with a penguins head. OR a penguin with octupus tentacles. Same thing. -steve
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Alexander N. Benner wrote: hi Ship's Log, Lt. Phillip R. Jaenke, Stardate 300199.2241: Why a dolphin? Well, they're intelligent. Definitely intelligent. They're pretty cute. :) And they're definitely flexible. (I'd like to see *you* burst out of the water, do a backflip or two midair, and make a perfect reentry.;) ok .. beat me for this .. but it does not realy meen 'good bye and thankyou for the fish' ! Dolphins are not more intelligent then paes or other animals. Intelligence referes also to somewhat of abstract thinking which no animal has. Intelligence does not refer to abstract thinking which no animal has. Intelligence refers to the capacity for thought, which even animals such as ants or fleas have to some minor extent. I've never heard it referred to as abstract thought only. Also why don't they have abstract thinking? I'm not up on cetacean biology, so let me discuss primates and analogize back. Primates have enough abstract thinking to speak and assemble objects in search of a future goal. Not much, but not non-existent. Cetaceans are a bit harder to study, as primates think alike, and in different ways from cetaceans. If they have enough intellegence to say good bye and thanks for all the fish, then it wouldn't be at all suprising we missed the intellegence before. Greetings -- Alexander N. Benner And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. -*- The Bible (Mark 12:29-30) But here's the real crux of the matter - we appear to be starting from two different ideological standpoints that each hold part of the answer as postulate. (Atheism over here, which holds that we are merely an evolutionary step from the primates, and are soulless animals oursleves.) As further argument would be fruitless and off topic, I will respond no further on list. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dullard: someone who, wanting a piece of information, takes down the appropriate volume of the encyclopedia, looks up the item they need, and then puts the volume away without reading anything else. - Peter Dell'Orto, paraphrased from Philip Jose Farmer
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Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: OK. I was thinking of this a lot the night after my exam (a nice way to forget I have one ;) .. and I think Debian mascot should in some way try to capture some of its essence. I feel some of the essence in keywords of Debian might be: volunteers, open source, collaborative work, freedom. I choose freedom, it's one that summarises it all, and trying to find an animal that, universally, would give the impression of freedom, I limited the choice to two bird species: - eagles Yes; I like this idea. How about a line drawing of an eagle in flight? We could have a bigger version somewhere with Evil Emperor Bill in its talons... -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
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Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I choose freedom, it's one that summarises it all, and trying to find an animal that, universally, would give the impression of freedom, I limited the choice to two bird species: - eagles, - hawks Freedom or death? Why does freedom suggest carnivorous animals, which are also the symbol of war? Let's keep the chicken. It *is* a free-range chicken, isn't it? -- Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a writes: I choose freedom, it's one that summarises it all, and trying to find an animal that, universally, would give the impression of freedom, I limited the choice to two bird species: - eagles, Fish eaters. Also symbolic of the Roman Republic and the United States government. - hawks Eaters of mice and baby rabbits (the red-tails around here, anyway). Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
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On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 01:50:28PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: We could then have conversations like this with our users: CART DRIVER: Bring out your dead! LARGE MAN: Here's one! CART DRIVER: Ninepence. BODY:I'm not dead! I'm waiting for someone not to know where that's from... -- I'm working in the dark here. Yeah well rumor has it you do your best work in the dark. -- Earth: Final Conflict
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On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 03:42:06PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse. That's been taken... -- I'm working in the dark here. Yeah well rumor has it you do your best work in the dark. -- Earth: Final Conflict
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JH == John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JH Power, speed, and freedom: a wild horse. Yes! Lets make it a black horse on yellow background and a red frame. Vrooom vroom. :-) Ciao, Martin
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Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Bialasinski) writes: Hmm, with a strong enough improbability field, you will see dragons in the sky. Dragons and octopi in the sky are Somebody Else's Problem. Flying Octopi? Sounds like a Detroit Red Wings game... Cheers, - Jim
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* Chris Waters (Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 10:14:15AM -0800) 1. Dragon Aye! -- SSM - Stig Sandbeck Mathisen Trust the Computer, the Computer is your Friend pgpBVRhU7iSbR.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 10:14:15AM -0800, Chris Waters wrote: snip I brought this up on IRC, and got the following suggestions: 1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) 3. Monkey 4. Ant 5. Bee Personally, I think octopi are really cute, they're smart (for invertebrae), and I kind of like the symbolism of many arms working together as part of a whole, but perhaps I'm a little crazy. :-) Yes, that you are.. I say we should go for a nice feline, perhaps a tiger cub? Then again, I'm quite insane.. =:] Zephaniah E. Hull. -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file. -- PGP EA5198D1-Zephaniah E, Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED]-GPG E65A7801 Keys available at http://whitestar.soark.net/~warp/public_keys. CCs of replies from mailing lists are encouraged. pgpm4eG8MRmUp.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 05:57:47PM -0600, Anderson MacKay wrote: The key here is cute. People don't want an ugly chicken-like creature that is clearly ready to attack at the slightest provocation. And furthermore, even if it -was- to attack, it really wouldn't do anything. Linus -was- able to give a convincing, -somewhat- alarming description of an angry penguin and why you wouldn't want to mess with him, but really ... chicken? Are you crazy? A mad chicken will pick your eyes out... :) Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.Debian GNU/Linuxfinger brinkmd@ Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.orgmaster.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]for public PGP Key http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Bialasinski) writes: Hmm, with a strong enough improbability field, you will see dragons in the sky. Dragons and octopi in the sky are Somebody Else's Problem.
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*- On 28 Jan, Chris Waters wrote about Call for mascot! :-) 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) I like this. It would be great for CD covers were each tentacle could have text overlayed for each architecture: i386, arm, hurd, sparc, alpha, m68k, powerpc. Well that is seven but there may be more later or some other text could go over it. -- Brian -- Eighth arm could be IA64 due out next year. == Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Darren Benham wrote: On 28-Jan-99 Chris Waters wrote: While I'm on the topic of the logo, it occurred to me that it might be nice to choose a mascot for the Debian project. Some sort of beast that we can use in the logo and in other Debian-related images. Much as Linux has its penguin, BSD has its devil, and GNU has its, erm, gnu. Debian should have its own mascot, IMO, separate from any of these. This may be a little to wierd, but what about a turtle swimming in a endless sea (like the old cosmology) and then on its shell riding along are a penguin and a Gnu as if they were friends. Or perhaps some other penguin Gnu combo? just a thought - steve
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Edward John M. Brocklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think so - Octopi can't fly! Someone who obviously hasn't read RFC 1925... RFC1925 asserts that under appropriate circumstances, -pigs- can fly. It makes no comment on the aerodynamic properties of cephalopods. -- James Never trust trucks -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacaphony of the unfettered speech the First Amendment protects. -- A.L.A. v. U.S. Dept. of Justice
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On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:44:20 -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Objet: Re: [] la date: 28 Jan 99 22:03:11 GMT De: John Travers [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: debian-devel@lists.debian.org On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Chris Waters wrote: 1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) 3. Monkey 4. Ant 5. Bee Why a dragon and not a Troll ? Bee like beos ? Octopus it is the symbol of mafia, but I dont care. It's a quit intelligent mollusque; What about a big Sponge? Lucile [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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While I'm on the topic of the logo, it occurred to me that it might be nice to choose a mascot for the Debian project. Some sort of beast that we can use in the logo and in other Debian-related images. Much as Linux has its penguin, BSD has its devil, and GNU has its, erm, gnu. Debian should have its own mascot, IMO, separate from any of these. This is just an idea, and I won't be offended if it's rejected. Anyway, I just thought that if we picked a mascot, then we could mention it in the rules for the proposed GIMP contest for a new Debian logo. I brought this up on IRC, and got the following suggestions: 1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) 3. Monkey 4. Ant 5. Bee Personally, I think octopi are really cute, they're smart (for invertebrae), and I kind of like the symbolism of many arms working together as part of a whole, but perhaps I'm a little crazy. :-) -- Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.
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On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Chris Waters wrote: 1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) 3. Monkey 4. Ant 5. Bee Ants and Bees are probably the easiest to do cool 3d raytracings with, if that's any thing. I'd have to take ants. Lots of little creatures doing their own thing, but cooperatively building something really cool as a result. Hmmm, that sounds familiar. :) Andy
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1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) Cool. As long as it's a decent dragon 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) OK 3. Monkey No 4. Ant no 5. Bee no :) Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
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On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 10:14:15AM -0800, Chris Waters wrote: This is just an idea, and I won't be offended if it's rejected. I kind of like it... I brought this up on IRC, and got the following suggestions: With 400 some odd developers, there are likely to be just about as many proposals... Maybe we should take this debate to debian-publicity. Infact, I have a feeling that the logo debate should probably migrate there, as well. Ciao, -- David Welton http://www.efn.org/~davidw Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org
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*- On 28 Jan, Chris Waters wrote about Call for mascot! :-) 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) I like this. It would be great for CD covers were each tentacle could have text overlayed for each architecture: i386, arm, hurd, sparc, alpha, m68k, powerpc. Well that is seven but there may be more later or some other text could go over it. -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
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On 1999/01/28, Anderson MacKay wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Chris Waters wrote: 1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) 3. Monkey 4. Ant 5. Bee Ants and Bees are probably the easiest to do cool 3d raytracings with, if that's any thing. I'd have to take ants. Lots of little creatures doing their own thing, but cooperatively building something really cool as a result. Hmmm, that sounds familiar. :) In that case, we should name our releases after characters from a Bug's Life :-) - Ruud de Rooij. -- Ruud de Rooij [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sepc.twi.tudelft.nl/~derooij/
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On 28-Jan-99 Chris Waters wrote: While I'm on the topic of the logo, it occurred to me that it might be nice to choose a mascot for the Debian project. Some sort of beast that we can use in the logo and in other Debian-related images. Much as Linux has its penguin, BSD has its devil, and GNU has its, erm, gnu. Debian should have its own mascot, IMO, separate from any of these. This is just an idea, and I won't be offended if it's rejected. Anyway, I just thought that if we picked a mascot, then we could mention it in the rules for the proposed GIMP contest for a new Debian logo. I brought this up on IRC, and got the following suggestions: 1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) 3. Monkey 4. Ant 5. Bee Personally, I think octopi are really cute, they're smart (for invertebrae), and I kind of like the symbolism of many arms working together as part of a whole, but perhaps I'm a little crazy. :-) If we go with one, I'd go for 2,1 or 5 in that order. I *hate* Monkey's and I step on ants. Bee seems a little... well.. not in the spirit but I could live with it. -- Please cc all mailing list replies to me, also. = * http://benham.net/index.html * * * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- ---* *Darren Benham * Version: 3.1 * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * GCS d+(-) s:+ a29 C++$ UL++ P+++$ L++* * KC7YAQ * E? W+++$ N+(-) o? K- w+++$(--) O M-- V- PS-- * * Debian Developer * PE++ Y++ PGP++ t+ 5 X R+ !tv b DI+++ D++ * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * G++G+++ e h+ r* y+* * * --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ---* = pgpDIJqmOwm1E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Chris Waters wrote: 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) How about Cthulhu? That would also tie into Linuxes world domination theme. :-) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 10:14:15AM -0800, Chris Waters wrote: 1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) Why not a phoenix? /me poses for gimp artists being that he'd make a cute mascott... = (that was supposed to be funny, why aren't you laughing?) -- I'm working in the dark here. Yeah well rumor has it you do your best work in the dark. -- Earth: Final Conflict
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 02:38:49PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) How about Cthulhu? That would also tie into Linuxes world domination theme. :-) Nah, that's the NT logo... Win95 or WinNT? Why settle for the lesser of two evils when you can pay twice as much for half as much stability!? -- I'm working in the dark here. Yeah well rumor has it you do your best work in the dark. -- Earth: Final Conflict
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
On Thu, January 28 1999, Anderson MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Chris Waters wrote: | 1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) | 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) | 3. Monkey | 4. Ant | 5. Bee | |that's any thing. I'd have to take ants. Lots of little creatures doing |their own thing, but cooperatively building something really cool as a |result. Hmmm, that sounds familiar. :) I'd second that (especially after watching Antz :). --Amos --Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for 133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st. | glory, for its people had been chosen Jerusalem 93 805 | by the finest judges in England. ISRAEL[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Anonymous
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
Edward John M. Brocklesby wrote: 1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) Obviously a dragon is the best choice. 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) Too complex. Er, less complex than a _dragon_! Anyone can draw a recognizable octopus, drawing a decent dragon takes some talent. -- see shy jo, in favor of octopus
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:04:05 +, Edward John M. Brocklesby wrote: Yeah, but I mean Octopi are really weird, and you never see them around anywhere, so some people might not recognise them. Whereas with dragons, you see them all the time, so they are easily recognisable. I mean, how often do you see an Octopus flying across the sky? I can honestly say that I'm more likely to see an octopus fly across the sky than a dragon. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNrDSknpf7K2LbpnFEQJYSgCgslrQ+X8WV5mfN61WLusdtIAsmOoAoKCA LdoGOKMz6BGDL+7hPmUpjfQd =lJYb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:28:29 +, Edward John M. Brocklesby wrote: I mean, how often do you see an Octopus flying across the sky? I can honestly say that I'm more likely to see an octopus fly across the sky than a dragon. I don't think so - Octopi can't fly! (Unless they flap their arms (legs?) really hard, and then they'd run out of energy and die from falling :) Octopi are real, dragons are mytical. I am more apt to see something real flying through the air, no matter how improbable, than something mythical, which I cannot ever see at all. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNrDYHHpf7K2LbpnFEQJQMwCfazNK3wmq2K0+Qyov2hR57mMYAtQAoK3j H5GXprM8f8jq0nSNj9DKtAY+ =xc/A -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 09:28:29PM +, Edward John M. Brocklesby wrote: I mean, how often do you see an Octopus flying across the sky? I can honestly say that I'm more likely to see an octopus fly across the sky than a dragon. I don't think so - Octopi can't fly! (Unless they flap their arms (legs?) really hard, and then they'd run out of energy and die from falling :) Sigh.. ok, so I guess it's too late, and we spam -devel with this stuff. Did you people not read my request to move this to -publicity? Personally, I like talking about these things, but I imagine that, as is the case with all the junk on -legal, there are people who really don't care at all, and don't really want to read about it. In any case.. Penguins don't fly either, even though they are birds, and 'should' fly! And that doesn't stop us from loving them;-) Although, personally, I think the BSD demon is way cooler than the penguin... -- David Welton http://www.efn.org/~davidw Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
Steve Lamb wrote: Octopi are real, dragons are mytical. I am more apt to see something real flying through the air, no matter how improbable, than something mythical, which I cannot ever see at all. Well I for one have seen dragons fly. (Dragon kites, that is.) -- see shy jo
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:44:20 -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Well I for one have seen dragons fly. (Dragon kites, that is.) Ah, but that is not a dragon, is it? And the picture on that dragon kite could be a octopus making it, then, an octopus kite? ;) - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNrDd8npf7K2LbpnFEQJI8gCghAAEeryiLYnElymSsWTK7JA0+5EAoIC4 KaEmRr/LypJAQpQl6aUGTIQf =Cce5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Re: Call for mascot! :-)]
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Chris Waters wrote: 1. Dragon (well-liked choice on IRC) 2. Octopus (my own suggestion) 3. Monkey 4. Ant 5. Bee Ants and Bees are probably the easiest to do cool 3d raytracings with, if that's any thing. I'd have to take ants. Lots of little creatures doing their own thing, but cooperatively building something really cool as a result. Hmmm, that sounds familiar. :) Andy I would definately have to agree. Ants (like in the film Antz) look really cool. They work together, co-operate and produce super human (or super ant) achivements. Octopi are silly and unrelated, dragons are just meaningless symbols that could look really good or bad. Ants (or bees) have something really catchy about them. travs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
Edward John M. Brocklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think so - Octopi can't fly! Someone who obviously hasn't read RFC 1925... -- James Never trust trucks
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
SL == Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SL On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:28:29 +, Edward John M. Brocklesby wrote: SL Octopi are real, dragons are mytical. I am more apt to see SL something real flying through the air, no matter how improbable, SL than something mythical, which I cannot ever see at all. Hmm, with a strong enough improbability field, you will see dragons in the sky. You can also plase kysh on a catapult to see a flying dragon :-) Ciao, Martin
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 01:35:24PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: I mean, how often do you see an Octopus flying across the sky? I can honestly say that I'm more likely to see an octopus fly across the sky than a dragon. I don't think so - Octopi can't fly! (Unless they flap their arms (legs?) really hard, and then they'd run out of energy and die from falling :) Octopi are real, dragons are mytical. I am more apt to see something real flying through the air, no matter how improbable, than something mythical, which I cannot ever see at all. For that matter, how about a flying pig? Then at least outsiders will get the joke. You know, a slightly lean, brightly smiling, winged angel-pig with what might or might not be a curly tail. Hey, he could have a cape, like Super Pig. Think about it, you'll learn to love it. The key here is cute. People don't want an ugly chicken-like creature that is clearly ready to attack at the slightest provocation. Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Have fun, Avery
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 06:14:17PM -0500, Avery Pennarun wrote: Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Ants with wings would look like termites. Ick... -- David Welton http://www.efn.org/~davidw Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org
Re: Call for mascot! :-)
Steve Lamb writes: Octopi are real, dragons are mytical. I am more apt to see something real flying through the air, no matter how improbable, than something mythical, which I cannot ever see at all. Mere nonexistence is a feeble excuse for declaring a thing unseeable. You *can* see dragons. You just have to look in the right direction. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: For that matter, how about a flying pig? Then at least outsiders will get the joke. If we're going for flying barnyard animals, I really have to go with flying cows. I mean, I'm sure this is horribly english-language-centric :), but you've got great material both from Python's _Holy_Grail_ and Gary Larson's _The_Far_Side_. The key here is cute. People don't want an ugly chicken-like creature that is clearly ready to attack at the slightest provocation. And furthermore, even if it -was- to attack, it really wouldn't do anything. Linus -was- able to give a convincing, -somewhat- alarming description of an angry penguin and why you wouldn't want to mess with him, but really ... chicken? If it was a rooster, maybe it'd be a little intimidating. That's the great thing about the FreeBSD guy ... he looks nice and all, but he's still got that spear-thing. Octopi and ants may also be good, if they have wings. Octopi with wings? Now -that- is a confusing bunch of appendages, if you ask me. =) Andy
